In just seven hours following the sentencing of the "Pirate Bay Four" earlier today, more than 3,000 people have joined the Piratpartiet, the "Pirate Party". The influx of new people make Piratpartiet larger in terms of membership than three of the other seven parties represented with parliamentary seats.According to their press release (translated by Google), Rick Falkvinge, the party leader, states that the "ruling [against the Pirate Bay] means that our political work must now be stepped up. We want to ensure that the Pirate Bay activities - to link people and information - is clearly lawful. And we want to do it for all people in Sweden, Europe and the world. We want it to be open for ordinary people to disseminate and receive information without fear of imprisonment or astronomical damages."
He goes on to claim that the Pirate Party is "a true grass-roots party, where each member makes a difference." The Piratpartiet does not simply have its sights set on changing the law in Sweden, but they are also seeking to make an impact in Europe "with the promise to fight against the zeal to control, censor and monitor the communications of ordinary people."
Elsewhere, the organization reports that the youth wing of the party, the Pirate Party Youth Young Pirates, has seen a surge of 1,500 new members, following the sentencing of the Pirate Bay. Stefan Flod, head of the Young Pirates, writes that "when young people get involved politically, it is a clear signal that [they] would not sit passively and watch how the adult world tear[s] down the knowledge society.... Now that we have a committed and well informed youth movement in politics, it is crucial to the establishment in fact also hear what they have to say."
yep, bring your own bandwidth!
More like Jack Swallows .. lol
/sigh
yes seriously... were do we sign up
Uh... Great. Did someone forget to tell Sweden that *English* is the official business language of the world? If so, I'm telling them now so consider them *told*. Get with it...
Uh... WTF? The "official business language of the world" LOL. Where did you come up with that? It is a POLITICAL party in SWEDEN who speak in SWEDISH. :| Get with it...
Did someone forget to tell you that Swedish is the official language of (wait for it... wait for it... wait for it...) SWEDEN!
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There are pirate parties all around the world...
International: http://www.pp-international.net/
US: http://www.pirate-party.us/
So on and so forth...
Pirate Party coming to a country near you!
Join the political revolution!
otherseven parties represented with parliamentary seats.Indeed, but won't be in the actual election where people go to the voting booths, trust me.
More people have taken up the dirty deed.
The more you try and oppress a number of people, that in fact didn't break the law the more rebels are created and an army is formed to fight back.
There are thousands upon thousands of websites that link to files on the various sites we know, don't see them
in court.
You should come to Kent, it's like 60% of the population smoke those cancer sticks.
Well its more than the sharing, Changes of the copyright laws and to preserve our privacy. With the Swedish government bringing in new laws such as the "FRA-Law" that allows the National Defence Radio Establishment to scan all outgoing communications from inside the swedish borders and with the new IPRED-Law that gives lobby organizations more power than our own police, Things are getting more and more messed up. the Pirate Party wants to protect the individual, and does not encourage the breaking of laws.
Huh? It's working, and they were the third largest political party outside of the parliament in the Swedish 2006 election. From the look of things, they'll make an even better result in the upcoming election. They also have other topics on their agenda, such as defending online privacy rights.
They did neither.
then lets send the CEO of Google to jail and fine them even more
They aided it in the same way an ISP provides with the internet. TPB provided people with torrents, that made users able to connect to each other and share the files, where as an ISP gives users internet, wich allows users to connect to each other and share the files.
I mean, sure, sharing copyrighted material is the problem. The Pirate Bay hosts only .torrent files allowing people to connect to each other. Google links directly to torrent sites, as well as warez sites and other such nonsense. Sure, they may take illegal stuff off their search engine from time to time, but Google et al don't seem to be concerned with taking off a site like The Pirate Bay.
seriously i'm starting to think your not very C# C++, you work for the riaa or something? all your comments just conflict with the general interest of the aforementioned topics...
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Are you crazy?
Unless another person's life was severely threatened, execution has no place in this. None. Sorry, but getting in the way of governments leaning over to large corporations deserves no more than fines and jail time, not loss of life.
Maybe you should be torn apart and dissected while fully concious, and kept alive until you're nothing more than a red stain on the table.
Hey guys, I can make pathetically immature statements too! Am I cool now?
And, no, i don't belive that it is fine to steal, but changes occur only through harsh circumstances, in other words many ppl need to be punched in the face to realize how wrong they are behaving. Piracy is the punch of the small ppl in the fat face of the management.
Just suppose copyright was abolished that would basically be the end of the vast majority of software, movies and music and all those jobs. #
Basically apart from a few exceptions there wouldn't be any money to be made so what would be the point?
I disagree.
Copyright enables a specific business model: Selling the undifferentiated boxed copy/license. Without copyright, this product becomes a commodity with little profit.
You can still make money in that market:
1) Sell quality or consistency. I know if I buy a MP3 from Amazon, it will be 256k, the correct song, with sensible ID3 tags, fast download, etc. That's worth 10 or 15 cents even if there's no license fee.
2) Sell add-on services (Red Hat model)
3) Sell customization. I'm sure there's a lot of-- especially business software-- where many people would want it adapted specifically to their needs.
4) On a similar vein, sell demand-driven products. Hardware manufacturers have a vested interest in demand for better hardware, so they may sponsor the development of more demanding applications.
5) Sell meta-services. Develop a referral system (like Pandora or last.fm), for example.
I do web development for a living, and because each client is getting something unique, I don't need copyright to create an artificial scarcity of my work, and a value.
I really don't believe there's going to be any jail time, they are not worried. and the site wont be taken down.
would we even stand a chance lol, i'm game dunno if it'll go anywhere tho. but count me in!
lets take down the whole internet!!!
after all without internet there's no piracy.
after all without internet there's no piracy.
There was a lot of piracy before the internet. A LOT..
There's a reason the law doesn't call it theft. Copyright infringement is something different.
Copyright may simply be something that is passing its time. It may have made sense when there was tremendous up-front costs in making content, that needed to be recouped a dime at a time. However, the barriers to entry for creating content are lower than ever.
It also, frankly, has not helped that the copyright industry has become increasingly militant against its own customers. This does not win you friends. They probably went way too far on the search for the last few percent of revenue.
Furthermore, there's this dramatic lack of touch with reality. They re-negotiate the agreement that people made with society 90 years ago, and expect society to basically give them a hand-out, in the form of continual extensions.
The scopes of the two aren't even remotely the same. There are MULTIPLE other legitimate uses of Google's many services that don't break the law. Pretty much all use of TPB's services break the law and they and everyone else knows it. I'm not here to comment on the appropriate or just penalties of that, nor do I even care to comment on whether or not penalties should be levied, but to compare it with Google is pretty much admitting that you have no justification for finding the penalties inappropriate. Come back when you find a real argument and perhaps people would be more likely to be swayed by your voice.
Piracy is just a sick sense of entitlement that needs to be corrected.
Ha ha ha ha, oh man this guy must be smoking something good!
- No more movies in the cinema
- No more security updates
- No more Windows, MacOS X
- No more video games
- No more music on the radio or in any store
- No more free services from any company (hotmail, messenger, they will go with the bankrupcy of the company)
Someone, somewhere needs to be paid for his work. Think about it.
While I agree with what you say, I have to disagree. I don't know about you, but have you worked for a large software development firm which employs over 4000 employees around the world? Have YOU invested time into coding a software? inventing a solution? have YOU invested money, time, effort into any of these?
I don't know. I think some firms and companies are charging the right amount, but what is the right amount? well, the right amount is when you feel that your software, which everyone will use, utilize and break has achieved its purpose for the price your consumer is willing to pay.
People work in the world to make an earning, to have a living and to sustain a good life. If we don't pay for anything how is money going to be circulating with in the economy? you need people to charge money. Money, while alot of people think, is quite renewable. It goes into the system and it comes out of the system back into the system..
Its only expensive because people have to put in more time so then the software does not fail, or have more bugs. Put it this way, the less buggy you want the software, the more you have to pay. It's the same with anything.
Piracy is bad, but companies need it in order to build hype, fame and reputation. Most pirates end up purchasing their software unless they're chronic-pirates who just warez for the hell of it
You can be sure there's going to be a war, its a digital war!
The internet provides safe harbor for a lot of pirates.
However this is just a front, the real problem is the divide between the rich and poor, this is what its all about always. Humans are still animals ruled by emotions you can never create a law everyone will comply to, right or wrong. It maybe very subtle but the instinct is still there.
Just like the animal kingdom they steal, scavenge and murder for a full stomach.
The day you'll never see a pirate is the day no-one has to ever starve.
TPB is just a scapegoat, see the bigger picture! There is always a reason, which is why there will always be a conflict.
Sure we're not cavemen but when you try to place control on a wild animal your going to get bitten!
It is unfair to the civilized honest worker who works his butt off so he can make a living. But copying has existed since the beginning of time.
When I release my work on the net, I sure hope it gets pirated to hell and back. lol Cos its going to be freeware. I just want to thanks all the amazing freeware developers out there for their real contributions to a better world. Peace. FREEDOMMM! lol
Chill out people, life finds a way! Pick a side and enjoy the ride!
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