Windows 7 RC coming to MSDN/Technet soon, public May 5

A page over at Microsoft Partners has been updated to show that Windows 7 RC will be publically released on May 5, and should be available for MSDN and Technet subscribers now. However, clicking through the download link will only get you the beta, right now.

This would seem to jive with an earlier leak on a Microsoft page saying that the RC would be available in May, but that was taken down soon after it was reported.

Well see how long this page stays updated with the Windows 7 RC information, or how long it'll take before RC does actually hit MSDN and Technet.

Updated: The page at Microsoft has been reverted back to information on the Windows 7 beta, and information on obtaining trial keys for partners. There is information going around multiple sites and our forums that Windows 7 RC has been sent to major OEMs. While the only way we can confirm this is a quote from Microsoft Online Concierge Chat, that said "Currently the Windows 7 RC has not been avaiable through the TechNet subscription yet, only the Microsoft OEM partners such as Dell, Siemens are taking part in the RC's this period of test." We take this to mean those OEMs have the bits right now, and that they'll be hitting the public Internet in the dates listed on the leaked website.

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All Fake.. Windows 7 RC ( I've got it.. It has some small (very minor) change in the UI.. My uncle works for Microsoft so i got it..wee the BETA RC 7100 RC Confusing MAN

RC = Release Candidate meaning a possible final version. Not always the final release.

RTM = Release To Manufacturer meaning a final version that allows manufactures to develop their imaging and install procedures for mass deployment in advance. That allows them to ramp up production lines and build inventory for the official release.

I do the same thing. When we are going to get a new model of PC, in our case a new model from dell, I get a sample unit a month or two before we make them available to for order by our users. I take that unit, install an OS, all the software, drivers, and what ever else we want on the shipped version. I then snap the image with ghost which I upload to dell, I then ship back the unit. Dell then runs my image on a separate test unit to make sure that the shipped version will boot properly and work, they then ramp up production for our orders using the RTM image I created. All my machines then arrive on site fully imaged and ready for rapid deployment. Saves us 1000's of man hours on our end when we don't have to sit and image the thousands of machines we buy a year.

If Win7 has RTM'd then we should see retail versions available by November.

Well Technet sent me a message this morning about Windows 7 beta Evaluation so does dat mean i will get the download link too from Microsoft or Msdn or even Technet it self or wud it be leaked straight

You have to have a technet plus and/or MSDN subscription to download from them and microsoft won't inform you by email of a public download link.

Wel dey did.. i got some kind of email from dem.. saying that u can download the RC ( wid the link wid it) LOL...but iit iz still the beta product there(build 7000)

So now all the various pundants will be saying when Win 7 is going to be released.... as for me ...it comes, when it comes..... no amount of HOPING (and that's all it is) is going to change when Microsoft releases it !

Sweet not long now then I've really enjoyed the beta overall and I'm really looking forward to see how things have changed with the RC. I've deliberately resisted downloading the leaked builds so when I make the jump from beta to RC it's a bit more of a surprise! :P

The page has changed some. It only says the beta is over. No more DL link or anything. No more about the public RC being released May 5th either.

will anyone be able to get it and try it out when its public beta, or just those that have signed up and gotten keys?

It has been stressed again and again that there will be only one RC. This is the timeline as I've heard it:

May - RC
September - RTM
November - Launch

gfffff said,
No. RC2 = beta 2.

Uh well to make succession work for any situation, wouldnt it make more sense to say RC1 is Beta2, and RC2 is actually RC1?? That is if it were 'ever' mentioned there was to be a second RC...although it was put out there numerous times there is only one RC. Do you think they would have time for a second one? They need to RTM by atleast july to make the RTM not too late for the manu.

theslam08 said,
Uh well to make succession work for any situation, wouldnt it make more sense to say RC1 is Beta2, and RC2 is actually RC1?? That is if it were 'ever' mentioned there was to be a second RC...although it was put out there numerous times there is only one RC. Do you think they would have time for a second one? They need to RTM by atleast july to make the RTM not too late for the manu.


Timeline ;

May 2009 : RC
August 2009 : RC2
September - October 2009 : RTM
January 2009 : Public Release

----

I have enough connections inside Microsoft and they all confirmed the news my friend (MS IT Engineer @ Redmond) gave me.

@gffff,

End of April/Now, RC
End of July/Early August, RTM
September, First shipping OEM computers with Windows 7
By Christmas, all OEMs selling Windows 7 computers and notebooks

Let's just see who's right...

excalpius said,
@gffff,

End of April/Now, RC
End of July/Early August, RTM
September, First shipping OEM computers with Windows 7
By Christmas, all OEMs selling Windows 7 computers and notebooks

Let's just see who's right...


I will be right, If seen the pdf files with all info regarding the windows 7 timeline. More details ;

05/05/09 = Release Candidate 1 (7100)
XX/08/09 = Release Candidate 2 (7200)
XX/09-10/09 = RTM (7300)
XX/11-12/09 = Release final version for Manufracturers (7400 / 7600)

Week 1 January 2010 = Win 7 available in Europe + North America
Week 2 January 2010 = Win 7 available in South-America + First Win 7 computers being sold.
Week 3 January 2010 = Win 7 available in Asia+Oceania
Week 4 January 2010 = Win 7 globally available

gfffff said,
I will be right, If seen the pdf files with all info regarding the windows 7 timeline. More details ;

05/05/09 = Release Candidate 1 (7100)
XX/08/09 = Release Candidate 2 (7200)
XX/09-10/09 = RTM (7300)
XX/11-12/09 = Release final version for Manufracturers (7400 / 7600)

Week 1 January 2010 = Win 7 available in Europe + North America
Week 2 January 2010 = Win 7 available in South-America + First Win 7 computers being sold.
Week 3 January 2010 = Win 7 available in Asia+Oceania
Week 4 January 2010 = Win 7 globally available

As lee26 stated, RTM is the final build. Unless you meant to say put on shelves in Win7 boxes, but still, its the RTM version that is put in boxes, or GM version. And your timeline makes no sense...think about it, if they gave 2-3 months for OEMs to put it on all their boxes for Christmas, there would be worse problems then there was with vista (even know the compatibility is a whole lot better, but still testing is in everyones best interest before putting a failing product on the shelves for people to buy.)

No, RTM will be given out atleast 5 months before the computers WITH 7 on it will be put on shelves (my source: common sense). And july/august makes best sense, and its whats been mentioned many many times since like last year.

gfffff said,
05/05/09 = Release Candidate 1 (7100)
XX/08/09 = Release Candidate 2 (7200)
XX/09-10/09 = RTM (7300)
XX/11-12/09 = Release final version for Manufracturers (7400 / 7600)


RTM is the final version for "manufracturers", hence the meaning, "Release to Manufacturing"

JonathanMarston said,

RTM is the final version for "manufracturers", hence the meaning, "Release to Manufacturing"


Uhh.. who came up with that crap.. lol.. 2 RTMs huh? 7300, and 7400 / 7600?

Stop just throwing crap out there... worthless..

Oh dear I'm very skeptical about all of this simply put most of this is crazy.

-Why would they keep making builds after the final release?
-Most previous tech bloggers with more credible Microsoft sources have said one Beta and one RC.
-Even given two RCs like Vista, the first RC was two months away from RTM.

Just stick to what we have, RC will be out May 5th and it will hit RTM when it does. We want the highest quality release possible so let's just test the software and appreciate they are being this open about it. I want them to wait till it is ready, that's the best we can hope for.

gfffff said,
Timeline ;

May 2009 : RC
August 2009 : RC2
September - October 2009 : RTM
January 2009 : Public Release


Take 2 or 3 years off, It's Vista's timeline... similar... I believe

Lord Ba'al said,

- only one RC
- only one Rtm!

Even when RC is released - Microsoft continues developing; it isn't as though the stop and wait for the bug reports come in. With the RTM, it isn't as though they don't test that - from what I understand it is RTM'ed, sent off to the OEM's and they get feedback if there are any major issues. If they have no major issues it becomes the gold master.

@gfffff, even if you weren't just transparently copying the Vista release info and changing the years, the simple fact of the matter is that there is no way in hell Microsoft will miss the Windows 7 release cycle this Christmas (like they did with Vista).

The milestones I list guarantee time for advertising (MS and OEM vendors), magazine lead time, word of mouth, etc. as well as final bug fixes, polish, vendor driver updates, compatibility database additions, etc.

danisflying527 said,
And im going away for 2 whole months next week
Im gunna miss getting the RC =(((((((((((((((
So sad

Who doesn't take a laptop with them, and maybe setup VNC these days?

Why can't people just wait for them to get it out the door without all the speculation.

Just visit Neowin everyday and you will know when the RC is out.

Knowing Microsoft it will be released on May 5th or 15th or 25th or 4th of July.

I'll just wait and enjoy the current release.

Yawn...

So will RC will have debugging code or no? Also will all the builds in the RTM branch have debugging code as well? (except RTM obviously)

Judging from 7077 reduced size and less memory used by services, I say RC will be without debug code.

Pre RTM have all the debug code.

Could anyone please tell me the real difference between pre-RTM and RC builds, besides the obvious numbering? Is there a difference in size, for instance? Debug code? Features?

Please, only respond to this question if you are absolutely sure. Thank you.

Lol RC is not a possible RTM and will definitely have bugs. Microsoft treats RC's and Beta's differently.

For Microsoft: Alpha's are for experimenting. Beta's are for implementing features, RC's are for bug testing.

For example, the Vista Beta 1 was not even feature complete.

Luis , because RC will contain no debug code and added processes for bug detection and error reporting, the PRE RTM is beta again so it contains all the debug code.

No it's not the same as RTM/Gold. RC is still pre-release software with a time limit. RTM is final with no time limit other than the 30 day activation.

SolwayUK said,
hang on, so is this RC the RTM/GOLD release? i always get confused on which is the final product...

RTM stands for "Released To Manufactures" if that helps

warwagon said,
RTM stands for "Released To Manufactures" if that helps :)

Wrong it stands for Released To Manufacturing.

I just logged into MSDN and verified that only the Beta is showing for download. No RC for MSDN subscribers yet.

Currently the Windows 7 RC has not been avaiable through the TechNet subscription yet, only the Microsoft OEM partners such as Dell, Siemens are taking part in the RC's this period of test.

MSDNAA currently has Windows 7 (x86) Beta which expires on August 1, 2009, didnt know there was a difference between msnd and msdnaa.

MSDNAA is Acedemic Alliance .... eg, Universities and Colleges will most likely have an AA account for students enrolled in technical courses

pre-RTM winmain branch:


6.1.7105.0.winmain.090404-1235
6.1.7106.0.winmain.090408-1623
6.1.7107.0.winmain.090409-1840
6.1.7108.0.winmain.090410-1755
6.1.7109.0.winmain.090413-1552
6.1.7110.0.winmain.090414-1906
6.1.7111.0.winmain.090415-1900
6.1.7112.0.winmain.090416-1820

winmain_win7rc branch:

6.1.7077.0.winmain_win7rc.090404-1255 - official RC Escrow
6.1.7078.0.winmain_win7rc.090406-1758
6.1.7079.0.winmain_win7rc.090407-1902
6.1.7080.0.winmain_win7rc.090408-1900
6.1.7081.0.winmain_win7rc.090409-1900
6.1.7082.0.winmain_win7rc.090410-1901
6.1.7083.0.winmain_win7rc.090413-1900
6.1.7084.0.winmain_win7rc.090414-1900
6.1.7085.0.winmain_win7rc.090415-1900
6.1.7086.0.winmain_win7rc.090416-1900

Anyone knows what will be the build number??

Officially, I officially heard from my officially official source whos official name was officially disclosed as the once official Bill Gates that he officially had the official authority to officially label this build number in an official manner. His official comment on an unofficial basis given to me unofficially was that the official build number would officially be...... eleventy-twelve. Yes that's right you officially heard it here first, and that's official.

artzm said,
Officially, I officially heard from my officially official source whos official name was officially disclosed as the once official Bill Gates that he officially had the official authority to officially label this build number in an official manner. His official comment on an unofficial basis given to me unofficially was that the official build number would officially be...... eleventy-twelve. Yes that's right you officially heard it here first, and that's official.

lol

artzm said,
Officially, I officially heard from my officially official source whos official name was officially disclosed as the once official Bill Gates that he officially had the official authority to officially label this build number in an official manner. His official comment on an unofficial basis given to me unofficially was that the official build number would officially be...... eleventy-twelve. Yes that's right you officially heard it here first, and that's official.

That sounds pretty official.

artzm said,
Officially, I officially heard from my officially official source whos official name was officially disclosed as the once official Bill Gates that he officially had the official authority to officially label this build number in an official manner. His official comment on an unofficial basis given to me unofficially was that the official build number would officially be...... eleventy-twelve. Yes that's right you officially heard it here first, and that's official.

WRONG. I officially heard it was twentington.

For gods sakes it's already been confirmed that it's for gold partner accounts only ie OEM's. If it hits technet/msdn anytime soon I'll eat my shoes.

lee26 said,
For gods sakes it's already been confirmed that it's for gold partner accounts only ie OEM's. If it hits technet/msdn anytime soon I'll eat my shoes.

Nom nom nom..

lee26 said,
For gods sakes it's already been confirmed that it's for gold partner accounts only ie OEM's. If it hits technet/msdn anytime soon I'll eat my shoes.

I take that to mean that they major OEMs have it right now, but that this page reflects the public and other non major partners.

lee26 said,
For gods sakes it's already been confirmed that it's for gold partner accounts only ie OEM's. If it hits technet/msdn anytime soon I'll eat my shoes.


You might find the laces easier to swallow.

I think it's been worked out that the last 70xx build will be recompiled as 7100 for the RC (at least, so goes my understanding).