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Two men send 217,000 text messages, $26,000 bill

Brad Sams   on 23 April 2009 - 01:47, updated 23 April 2009 - 05:05 · 48 comments & 12998 views

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Two men set out with the ambition to see how many text message they could send a month and rallied up 217,000 messages. The duo Nick Andes, 29, and Doug Klinger, 30, were relying on their unlimited text messaging plans to pay for the fiasco.

In a mixup on T-mobile's end a bill was sent to Andes for the whopping sum of $26,000 which, as you can imagine, had him stunned at the expenses incurred. The bill alone cost T-Mobile $27.55 to ship to Andes but thankfully T-Mobile honored their unlimited text messaging plan and credit the amount back to the user.

The two were hoping to set a guiness record for the most texts in a month but it has yet to be confirmed by Guiness World Records. It's quite amazing that they were able to send 217,000 message which averages out to about 7000 messages a day, 291 an hour or 4 every minute for the entire month. It's unclear from the story if these were actual messages transaction or if it was a program that was able to spam the messages.

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(9 replies) #1 +dead.cell on 23 Apr 2009 - 05:07
"Person sends X amount of text messages, gets a crazy large bill."

Bleh, this is starting to get old... even more so now that we have people trying to do just that.
#1.1 Alkaif on 23 Apr 2009 - 05:09
dead.cell said,
"Person sends X amount of text messages, gets a crazy large bill."

Bleh, this is starting to get old... even more so now that we have people trying to do just that.


+1
#1.2 SH3K0 on 23 Apr 2009 - 08:37
+1
#1.3 AnthoWin on 23 Apr 2009 - 09:09
+1
#1.4 ]SK[ on 23 Apr 2009 - 09:49
The difference is though this time they are both on an Unlimited text message contract.
#1.5 +dead.cell on 23 Apr 2009 - 15:42
While I don't believe in false advertising from companies, it seems more like they abused the system than anything else...
#1.6 ew2x4 on 23 Apr 2009 - 16:10
dead.cell said,
While I don't believe in false advertising from companies, it seems more like they abused the system than anything else...


There is no system abuse. Texting takes absolutely no resources from the cell phone provider.
#1.7 sphbecker on 23 Apr 2009 - 21:06
ew2x4 said,
There is no system abuse. Texting takes absolutely no resources from the cell phone provider.


Exactly!! In fact sending a few text message has far less of an impact than a voice conversation. You would think carriers would encourage texting by making it free to save the bandwidth it takes to send voice. But we all know they are trying to make money however they can, not change us what it actually costs them to provide something.
#1.8 marcusanton on 24 Apr 2009 - 13:41
sphbecker said,
But we all know they are trying to make money however they can, not change us what it actually costs them to provide something.


Since when do the operators have to provide any service for free? You want something, you pay for it. If not, it is not that critical for you, is it? It is the basic concept of a free society. You are not forced to use the service. There are alternatives.

It is, however, true that the price for the service is quite high compared to what it cost to setup and operate. Make no mistake, initial fixed costs to provide the service are quite high, opex on the other side is minimal. In fact, it is piggybacking on BTS signalling channels. But in order to provide the service, you have to build whole infrastructure for voice and data upon which the SMS service is piggybacking. And that is as I have mentioned, very expensive.

And of course, it is quite easy to overload the signaling thus degrading Voice and Data services, especially in city centres.


TANSAALF

#1.9 Atlonite on 24 Apr 2009 - 14:48
marcusanton said,
Since when do the operators have to provide any service for free? You want something, you pay for it. If not, it is not that critical for you, is it? It is the basic concept of a free society. You are not forced to use the service. There are alternatives.

It is, however, true that the price for the service is quite high compared to what it cost to setup and operate. Make no mistake, initial fixed costs to provide the service are quite high, opex on the other side is minimal. In fact, it is piggybacking on BTS signalling channels. But in order to provide the service, you have to build whole infrastructure for voice and data upon which the SMS service is piggybacking. And that is as I have mentioned, very expensive.

And of course, it is quite easy to overload the signaling thus degrading Voice and Data services, especially in city centres.


TANSAALF


+1 try comming to New Zealand and sending a txt on new years day 12:05am you cant because the system is overloaded i have had txts show up as much as 4 days later
(5 replies) #2 leesmithg on 23 Apr 2009 - 05:16
All I can say to these two men, is, 'get a life'.

#2.1 Chris-Gonzales on 23 Apr 2009 - 05:38
leesmithg said,
All I can say to these two men, is, 'get a life'.


You could say the same for those who spend all day on here.

just thank god it wasnt some dumb little kid
#2.2 darkpuma on 23 Apr 2009 - 10:26
leesmithg said,
All I can say to these two men, is, 'get a life'.

yep.
#2.3 Majesticmerc on 23 Apr 2009 - 10:27
Chris-Gonzales said,
You could say the same for those who spend all day on here.


Yeah? And?
#2.4 splur on 23 Apr 2009 - 17:36
Chris-Gonzales said,
You could say the same for those who spend all day on here.

lol, you know a lot of us waste time at work on here, right? Basically getting paid to chat on forums and surf websites, good to know where your tax dollars are going eh?

*that was a total smash on government employees.
#2.5 rm20010 on 23 Apr 2009 - 18:22
Chris-Gonzales said,
You could say the same for those who spend all day on here.

just thank god it wasnt some dumb little kid


Gotta hate on kids eh?
#3 s0nic69 on 23 Apr 2009 - 06:00
ha. this one is funny. atleast they were trying to set a goal and were not dumb like the other people who have been letting their kids txt too much w/o a txting plan.
(7 replies) #4 SniperX on 23 Apr 2009 - 06:04
I'm going for my own record too - the fewest number of texts in a year. So far, for 2009, I'm at zero!

Get that Guiness book ready for me....
#4.1 The Guardian on 23 Apr 2009 - 06:53
ROFL!!
#4.2 Digix on 23 Apr 2009 - 07:53
SniperX said,
I'm going for my own record too - the fewest number of texts in a year. So far, for 2009, I'm at zero!

Get that Guiness book ready for me....


I would have beaten you until other day i was nearly at 19 months no txt messages
#4.3 SniperX on 23 Apr 2009 - 09:21
Digix said,
I would have beaten you until other day i was nearly at 19 months no txt messages

See, now THAT'S admirable.
#4.4 Glendi on 23 Apr 2009 - 09:44
SniperX said,
I'm going for my own record too - the fewest number of texts in a year. So far, for 2009, I'm at zero!

Get that Guiness book ready for me....


My parents have tons of years and still going on... 0 messages.
#4.5 darkpuma on 23 Apr 2009 - 10:26
Digix said,
SniperX said,
I'm going for my own record too - the fewest number of texts in a year. So far, for 2009, I'm at zero!

Get that Guiness book ready for me....


I would have beaten you until other day i was nearly at 19 months no txt messages

I've never sent a txt msg so beat that.... and im 22
#4.6 SniperX on 23 Apr 2009 - 11:18
Glendi said,
My parents have tons of years and still going on... 0 messages.


darkpuma said,
I've never sent a txt msg so beat that.... and im 22


Hmm, I'm sensing a weakness in my world-record attempt...
#4.7 +Chipshop on 23 Apr 2009 - 12:44
lol, was worth a try though :p
#5 Escalade_GT on 23 Apr 2009 - 06:22
I sure hope it was an app that mass spammed the messages.

Otherwise they should also get a Guinness record for least amount of sleep/productivity in a month.
(2 replies) #6 Mekun on 23 Apr 2009 - 06:36
I assume these guys have no jobs?
#6.1 WhoTheF on 23 Apr 2009 - 06:48
i am sure they do. who pays for their phone bill?
#6.2 rob.derosa on 23 Apr 2009 - 13:40
WhoTheF said,
i am sure they do. who pays for their phone bill?

their social cheques!
#7 3rd impact on 23 Apr 2009 - 07:59
"were relying on their unlimited text messaging plans to pay for the fiasco."

didn't they know that cellphone companies changed the definition of the word unlimited? it now means: "unlimited text messaging but for a limited time only"?

ignorant fools.
#8 Antiprophet on 23 Apr 2009 - 10:10
4 texts a minute and they never text me.
Thats just rude.
And getting very old.
#9 +Axel on 23 Apr 2009 - 10:26
Seriously... who were they texting! Wouldn't want to have been the choice receiver of those message!
#10 Michael1406 on 23 Apr 2009 - 10:42
I'm sure I read that text messages usually just sit in free space of packets sent around, so they don't actually cost anything for the mobile companies to send around. So this can't have been much bother for T-Mobile.

As for how they did it, they probably set up another phone and kept sending the same message to it.
#11 Phoenix-76 on 23 Apr 2009 - 10:58
The world is truly in recession - too much of time in hand - ;-)
#12 cork1958 on 23 Apr 2009 - 12:23
I hope they have to pay the bill just for being so stupid and doing such a dumb thing!!

Maybe that will help them get a life!!
#13 Neobond on 23 Apr 2009 - 12:53
They must really like each other
#14 Anaron on 23 Apr 2009 - 13:08
At least they did it out of curiosity.
#15 Galley on 23 Apr 2009 - 13:39
217,000 texts. What is that, a couple hundred megabytes total? Yeah, that's totally worth $26K!
#16 GSRecluse on 23 Apr 2009 - 15:00
nitpick: Guinness is the proper spelling of the both the beer and world records organization.
(2 replies) #17 C_Guy on 23 Apr 2009 - 15:14
The two were hoping to set a guiness record for the most texts in a month

Hooray! But when you're 29 and 30 isn't it time to move out of mom's basement and find a JOB?????
#17.1 jwjw1 on 23 Apr 2009 - 15:42
...and turn the lights out!
#17.2 +dead.cell on 23 Apr 2009 - 16:03
Ya know, that same concept can be applied to those trolling Neowin...
(2 replies) #18 +warwagon on 23 Apr 2009 - 15:15
Price per text message is one of the biggest rip off's in the tech industry. When in fact I read that a text message piggy backs off the signal so it ends up costing the carrier nothing. Its like $5,000 a meg
#18.1 zaidgs on 23 Apr 2009 - 16:25
I guess companies charge for the "service", its not really about what it costs them. Nonetheless, I think that text messages should be much cheaper than normal calls per minute.
#18.2 -Vivicidal- on 23 Apr 2009 - 18:13
I know! It's terrible, but people are willing to pay it.
#19 ajua on 23 Apr 2009 - 18:56
That is impressive! lol
#20 RangerLG on 23 Apr 2009 - 20:32
If this would be an "official" world record, there should be standards. Like a minimum amount of characters in the message. Not just sending 'k' 217,000 times. Needs to be an actual message IMO.

Wow, did I just over think that or what.
#21 dbb10001 on 24 Apr 2009 - 04:55
Brad, nice article. I can't begin to imagine what it was like for that guy Nick Andes to get a $26K phone bill, especially if he actually had a comprehensive plan with unlimited texting. Talk about shock! I get particularly riled when people are stuck with huge, often erroneous cell bills; I hear about this all the time because I work for the consumer advocacy website http://www.fixmycellbill.com , powered by a company called Validas, where we slash the average cell bill by 22 percent. Consumers like Nick Andes may not have been actively misled by their wireless providers, but his example seems to illustrate that cell plans are clearly not impervious to problematic charging and subsequently many "unlimited" plans remain vulnerable to significant usage. I could go on and on about how shifty these cell companies can be in their attempts to make you overpay. I'll mention that at Validas, we stop them and have currently put over $5,000,000 back in the pockets of consumers. You can check out Validas's fixmycellbill.com in the national news media, seen recently on Good Morning America at http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6887412&page=1.

Good luck to everyone trying to cut your wireless expenses in this rough economy.

Dylan

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