The same judge who oversaw the Napster case is now overseeing the ongoing case against RealNetworks and that company's RealDVD software. As previously reported on Neowin, the software allows users to make back-ups of their DVDs, either to their hard drives or to writeable DVD media. The six largest film studios in Hollywood have united in an effort to have RealDVD banned, arguing that people will stop paying the full amount for movies and TV shows on DVD if they can simply rent them, rip them, and return them.According to the RealDVD homepage, the RealDVD software itself is sold as providing consumers with the following benefits:
- Take your DVDs with you and leave your discs behind
- Save and play movies at the same time - with a single click
- Browse by title, genres, and actor
- Find and play movies and TV shows instantly
- Protect your discs from scratches and damage
- Save your movies legally, and with confidence
Defending RealDVD, RealNetworks states, "The bottom line is that Hollywood does not want you to have the same 'fair use rights' to make a backup copy of your DVDs in the same way that you have had with your music CDs for more than a decade. Hollywood argues that RealDVD circumvents the technology that prevents illegal copying; RealDVD does not compromise any such protections. In fact, RealDVD adds more stringent protections to prevent piracy or other illegal copying. Real respects the rights of content creators and legitimate rights holders, and we want to work with them to continue delivering innovative digital entertainment technology (like RealDVD) that ultimately benefit you."
According to MSNBC, Hollywood considers RealDVD a real threat to the $20 billion it rakes in annually from DVD sales, noting that the software encourages "rent, rip and return".
It is not, however, as if RealDVD offers any benefits that cannot be had already. All manner of software has long existed to provide users with the features noted, and much of that software is available free.
One problem for Hollywood is that RealNetworks is a major player and that RealDVD would likely have a significant impact among consumers. Another problem, and perhaps a more important problem, is that RealDVD may actually be 100% legal under current US copyright law.
RealNetworks is claiming in their 24 April Response to Motion for Preliminary Injunction, as the company has always maintained, that RealDVD works well within the rules of American copyright law, including the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, to help consumers take advantage of their fair-use rights with regard to copy-protected DVDs.
















Not to mention... dvd's with mastering defects.. sometimes go away on a backup copy. Knight Rider season discs were notorious for this. And mom got sick of it that like me we don't use dvd cases anymore. Who wants to buy a $50 set of North & South again. This might be comparable to old CFL lights, they used to be made to last, but today's CFL lights, your lucky if you get them to last 1/2 a year. Same thing will happen to LED lights I'm sure. Interestingly I think incadescent bulbs were built to last, but companies couldn't afford to make a bulb no one would replace so they aren't built to last.
For example:
DVD Shrink - DVD Ripping and Backup
Latest Version - 3.2.0.15
License - Freeware
It's very important that they win, because if they do, other less-bloated DVD libraries will show up.
In a side note, I have always hated RealNetworks. At least back in the day, their software/codec was really awefull. It fooled some of my noob friends into thinking they HAD to buy their software. I still remember all the ads and crap in it. Although the apple quicktime isn't much better.
remember several years ago some websites got in trouble for censoring certain words. Breasts for instance would be used for breast cancer. Not whatever the censorer would think it meant. Who's banning teabagging? o_O and Gay used to mean happy. Nine Inch Nails stuck some of their albums up on a torrent and Pirate Bay. Some indie bands have been stuck on some torrent sites. It's how they get the word out. As NIN would have it said. Bite the hand that feeds you.
US Copyright law does NOT let you make a backup of a movie you have only rented!
so that makes the software illegal? Why are they not taking all the other companies to court or even the ones that make free software? Just because some people use it illegally, doesn't mean you have to take everyones rights away
the fact that something can be used for illegal purposes doesn't make the product itself illegal. You can use a baseball bat to smash a head in and go to jail for murder. That doesn't make baseball illegal
programs floating around that can rip the DVD to your PC right now.
I think they are over reacting about RealDVD ... Most likely it's going
to be bloated and very buggy ...
Most people I know who have children do the same because kids go through DVDs almsot as fast as they go through pop tarts. It only makes sense to back up your media.
It is unfortunate that people with an entitlement attitude disability abuse the system to copy movies illegally but that shouldn't prevent the honest consumers like myself from exercising our right to a media backup. It's bad enough we have to pay a levy on our media in Canada. Another example of the honest footing the bill for the criminals.
The DVD reader itselft can break the disc too. I had to replace my Halo 3 disc once because for an unkown reason the DVD drive of the 360 went crazy and the disc stabilizator failed. The disc had a big dent in the middle. Luckily i called MS and they exchanged the disc for free. But i'm sure not all companies do that.
I too always backup all my CD and DVD. Can't backup my comsole games though
CD's get lost and damaged, and i dont know about you guys but i hate paying to get a new CD.
I normaly RIP my cd's and play the ripped versions (goes for software as well), why i hear you ask, because i dont want to loose my original cd or get it damaged! In the UK it's not exactly cheap to get a new disc, when DVD movies retail for between £13 and £18 depending on the movie! And well music cd's aint exactly cheap! Some range from £8-£12.
It is just crazy the companies are trying to stop users being able to do this sort of thing.
Exactly what I been saying. I see no difference in this compared to all the other cd/dvd ripping programs. If they really want to be dicks about it why not just go after cd/dvd media companies.
They would get money but you would not be able to actually watch the movie because you can tell the story of the movie to friends or tell them the movie ***** so they wont pay to see it which is a bad thing. Bad or good all movies should make tons of money.
I think 5% of what the workers earn should go directly to the RIAA and MPAA.
That was tried (Walt Disney Pictures vs. Sony Corporation of America; the infamous *Betamax case*), and Disney got waxed in a Supreme Court decision that is pretty much THE precedent for video recording rights for non-commercial use in the United States.
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