NSA head says US needs to build 'digital warfare force'

(1 reply) #1 Xero on 05 May 2009 - 21:20

Skynet

#1.1 DaViD_BRaNDoN on 06 May 2009 - 01:15

Xero said,

Skynet

Haha... but first, they need to build "The Turk"

(6 replies) #2 Betaz on 05 May 2009 - 21:44

I was just saying how I'd love to get a job with something like the NSA. Too bad they'd never take me. It's ridiculously hard to get into something like that. I doubt that a digital warfare force would actually be NSA employees though. Probably just the NSA recognizing the need of another department to do so. If they were actually going to be NSA they wouldn't have said a word and would have already created the force, haha.

#2.1 brink668 on 05 May 2009 - 23:22

Betaz said,

I was just saying how I'd love to get a job with something like the NSA. Too bad they'd never take me. It's ridiculously hard to get into something like that. I doubt that a digital warfare force would actually be NSA employees though. Probably just the NSA recognizing the need of another department to do so. If they were actually going to be NSA they wouldn't have said a word and would have already created the force, haha.

Have you actually tried yet? You should try to get a job first. You need to contact them rather they contact you.

#2.2 RootWind on 06 May 2009 - 00:31

It's really not as hard as you make it out to be. The NSA is not as mythical as is painted in fiction. The NSA is essentially a government agency of math nerds + computer nerds of all skill levels.

#2.3 Betaz on 06 May 2009 - 01:09

Right, but everyone there has Top Secret clearance which is pretty tough to get from what I hear due to the number of applicants. Plus I don't really have any school backing to help me out. Ehh, I dunno. Working for the NSA can be a pain in the ass with how strict they are. A lot more relaxing to just work a normal job.

#2.4 A.B.L.N.N. on 06 May 2009 - 01:10

Betaz said,

I was just saying how I'd love to get a job with something like the NSA. Too bad they'd never take me. It's ridiculously hard to get into something like that. I doubt that a digital warfare force would actually be NSA employees though. Probably just the NSA recognizing the need of another department to do so. If they were actually going to be NSA they wouldn't have said a word and would have already created the force, haha.

I know a NSA linguist that just recently retired from the U.S. Army. All he did was go to the front office, setup an appointment, and go upstairs to hand his resume in. Three weeks later he had a job.

#2.5 +chorpeac on 06 May 2009 - 12:49

A.B.L.N.N. said,

I know a NSA linguist that just recently retired from the U.S. Army. All he did was go to the front office, setup an appointment, and go upstairs to hand his resume in. Three weeks later he had a job.

Yeah but he was also a member of the Army. That allows you to put you foot way in the door.

#2.6 VIVIsectVI on 06 May 2009 - 13:39

Betaz said,

Right, but everyone there has Top Secret clearance which is pretty tough to get from what I hear due to the number of applicants. Plus I don't really have any school backing to help me out. Ehh, I dunno. Working for the NSA can be a pain in the ass with how strict they are. A lot more relaxing to just work a normal job.

It's not hard getting a TS clearance. Just takes a while and can be expensive.

#3 Greasy on 05 May 2009 - 22:27

Everyone else has one, why not...

(2 replies) #4 +Berserk87 on 05 May 2009 - 22:44

stop trying to jail them and/or extradite them, and hire them instead...

#4.1 +Frazell Thomas on 06 May 2009 - 03:26

You don't want an organization of all crimminals... They might be smart, but you need to be sure they are trustworthy too. That's not a easy thing among crimminals (as the old saying goes... "There is no honor among thieves").

#4.2 computer112 on 08 May 2009 - 01:56

Do you trust the government? If we talk in criminals and government, there is only bad vs bad. I don't trust any government in this world. Hackers have their ways and styles, we are free to do this.
You couldn't blam everything on hackers. Not every hacker is bad, like me.

(2 replies) #5 Nose Nuggets on 05 May 2009 - 23:01

"the only way to counteract both criminal and espionage activity online"

i beg your pardon? are there lots of espionage web sites we need to monitor or something?

maybe i am thinking about this all wrong. but, wouldent having a internal network defense force be what you want? a "digital warfare force" sound like your hankerin' to start some ****.

oh yeah, and then there is that small fact that we are broke. actually, scratch that, we are in a state of soul crushing debt. lets make more government agencies. because, not only do they do their jobs well, they are cost effective to boot!

#5.1 A.B.L.N.N. on 06 May 2009 - 01:12

Nose Nuggets said,

"the only way to counteract both criminal and espionage activity online"

i beg your pardon? are there lots of espionage web sites we need to monitor or something?

maybe i am thinking about this all wrong. but, wouldent having a internal network defense force be what you want? a "digital warfare force" sound like your hankerin' to start some ****.

oh yeah, and then there is that small fact that we are broke. actually, scratch that, we are in a state of soul crushing debt. lets make more government agencies. because, not only do they do their jobs well, they are cost effective to boot!

So all those people the government trains to read Jihadist websites and intercept e-mails, those people are all useless right? Because terrorism, that is ****ing bull**** right? I mean that war in Chechnya I fought in, totally about expanding the Russian Mafiya's control closer to the Adriatic.

#5.2 Nose Nuggets on 06 May 2009 - 20:59

A.B.L.N.N. said,

So all those people the government trains to read Jihadist websites and intercept e-mails, those people are all useless right? Because terrorism, that is ****ing bull**** right? I mean that war in Chechnya I fought in, totally about expanding the Russian Mafiya's control closer to the Adriatic.

uh, no. not necessarily useless. but certainly not a good use of resources.

#6 pauldr777 on 05 May 2009 - 23:03

This is a field of warfare that many countries are on even ground with and some are out in front, we need to address this new emerging battlefield seriously otherwise other nations will become more prominent in this area leaving us vulnerable to attack.

(1 reply) #7 brink668 on 05 May 2009 - 23:15

Where do I sign up?

#7.1 +chorpeac on 06 May 2009 - 12:50

www.nsa.gov

#8 theclueless on 06 May 2009 - 00:08

about time

#9 Airlink on 06 May 2009 - 02:02

Well, they are getting their digital asses handed to them on a regular basis by the Chinese. I, for one, welcome our new Chinese overlords, but since the americans are still living in a fantasy world where they're still the world's dominant superpower and they aren't drowning in debt, I suppose that they probably will try and build some sort of 'digital warfare force.' This ought to be good for a laugh.

#10 eblkheart on 06 May 2009 - 03:18

I already encountered a government contractor hiring for these positions already. Looks like this has been on going for a bit. Unfort. I don't meet the education/experience that they need, but damn I already have had the security clearance that they require.

#11 ecotrojan on 06 May 2009 - 10:15

Tom Clanceys Netforce !

#12 morphen on 06 May 2009 - 10:55

I can see it now, Navy seals with their sub machine guns and the Digital warfare force with..eh, their keyboards and usbsticks?

(1 reply) #13 Solid Knight on 06 May 2009 - 11:53

Why hack a server when you can blow it up?

#13.1 computer112 on 08 May 2009 - 01:58

Or send everyone you know some viruses and worms, that's gonna work!!

#14 Atlonite on 06 May 2009 - 16:44

but shouldn't this already be part of National Security Agencies mandate erm or do they just play quake all day as far as i can see you guys already have far to many socalled intelligence agencies you need to just have one and they shall be called the NSCIFBDEAHSDOJ just roll em all into one big unit cut out any overlap and there you have it a much more efficient bread of intel agency

#15 computer112 on 07 May 2009 - 01:27

Although there is an digital army force, hackers don't just simply hack into the government like the way that news always say. Even only one hacker is enough to fight with the whole entire army force, he or she could probably break into the network without any trouble. Imagine ten guys and girls do this at the same time.

In fact hackers in other countries really hate or maybe want to challenge this "new kind of army force" 'cause hacking is about using knowledge, not weapon or power. Knowledge is the only available powerful weapon for our hacker. Being a hacker is like being a human, it's any where in the world.

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