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Windows 7 RC to receive test updates on May 12th

Sam Symons   on 10 May 2009 - 08:41 · 33 comments & 11325 views

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Those involved with Windows 7 will remember a while back the beta received test updates, to check if how well the update system worked within Microsoft's new operating system. Well, a similar thing is happening, this time in the Windows 7 RC variety.

This has come straight from the company itself, via the Windows Team blog, as well as being reported on TechNet. Keeping it the same as the previous updates, they will deliver no fixes or anything of the sort, and there should be around about 10 of them. According to the TechNet post, most of these will install automatically, but some of them won't, as this will, "test a new update notification feature that provides detailed information about available updates that need to be installed manually." They'll be clearly identified as test updates, also, to prevent any confusion.

So folks, keep an eye out on May 12th and be sure to let us (and Microsoft) know how it goes.

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(1 reply) #1 vetneufuse on 10 May 2009 - 12:13
Good, this means we are getting closer to the end of the test cycle when they start doing the finally update testing
#1.1 waruikoohii on 10 May 2009 - 19:19
neufuse said,
Good, this means we are getting closer to the end of the test cycle when they start doing the finally update testing

Well, they also did update testing on the Beta, so,
#2 Raa on 10 May 2009 - 12:16
Sounds good, i've always wanted more detailed info about updates, but AU was very ... brief.
(8 replies) #3 duntkno on 10 May 2009 - 13:00
no fixes or new features... sucks
#3.1 +StevenNT on 10 May 2009 - 13:20
I don't think you understand the testing process.
#3.2 ManMountain on 10 May 2009 - 13:25
duntkno said,
no fixes or new features... sucks


The RC for me has been absolutely problem free. It's good enough even now to be retail.

What fixes / features where you hoping for?
#3.3 duntkno on 10 May 2009 - 15:23
StevenNT said,
I don't think you understand the testing process.


i dont think you understand what i'm using it for.
#3.4 Nauge on 10 May 2009 - 16:16
duntkno said,
i dont think you understand what i'm using it for.

Care to elaborate?
#3.5 GreyWolfSC on 10 May 2009 - 17:05
duntkno said,
i dont think you understand what i'm using it for.


Whatever you're using the RC, the tests won't affect you.

They're just dummy files that are being pushed to test Windows Update. Don't expect a reliable patch schedule or new features til after RTM.
#3.6 Jugalator on 10 May 2009 - 17:56
duntkno said,
i dont think you understand what i'm using it for.

Uh, a production environment? *worried*
#3.7 Calum on 10 May 2009 - 18:16
There won't be any more features. This is a release candidate build...
#3.8 LiquidSolstice on 11 May 2009 - 07:11
duntkno said,
i dont think you understand what i'm using it for.


Yes, I know your secret. Unlike the rest of us, you must be using it for making sandwiches.
(6 replies) #4 torrentthief on 10 May 2009 - 13:42
is anyone confused at what this means? if there are updates that arent fixes or features then what are they?
#4.1 vetJoel on 10 May 2009 - 13:49
torrentthief said,
is anyone confused at what this means? if there are updates that arent fixes or features then what are they?

They're tests sent down to test the automatic update system. That's what the article's about. What part was unclear?
#4.2 The Burning Rom on 10 May 2009 - 14:27
Joel said,
They're tests sent down to test the automatic update system. That's what the article's about. What part was unclear?


Agreed, the article is pretty clear. Maybe torrentthief read the title and then skipped down to reading the comments...? That's all I can think of.
#4.3 briangw on 10 May 2009 - 14:52
The Burning Rom said,
Agreed, the article is pretty clear. Maybe torrentthief read the title and then skipped down to reading the comments...? That's all I can think of.


What I think is hilarious is we have been getting AU for awhile now. What's there to test?
#4.4 GreyWolfSC on 10 May 2009 - 17:06
briangw said,
What I think is hilarious is we have been getting AU for awhile now. What's there to test?


It's a new version of Windows. Revising or rewriting something almost always injects new flaws.
#4.5 GP007 on 10 May 2009 - 18:09
They must have changed something since the beta test updates which iirc were only 2 or 3 in total?

This time it's 10 total and not all of the install automatic. So they're testing a broader part of windows update this time around.

As long as we can keep the need for restarts after updates to a minimum I'll be happy.
#4.6 _dandy_ on 10 May 2009 - 18:56
briangw said,
What I think is hilarious is we have been getting AU for awhile now. What's there to test?


Probably not every update covers every possible scenario--it's quite likely these are put out to test the less-common cases. Better to find problems with those now than find out after it RTMs.
#5 marty87 on 10 May 2009 - 13:44
windows 7 has been pretty awesome so far, just waiting on better x64 graphics drivers from nvidia
(1 reply) #6 MoeJoe on 10 May 2009 - 14:27
ive had no problems with windows 7 apart from an annoying Wifi bug, when my wireless randomly disconnects from my network and i have to reboot to resolve it
#6.1 GP007 on 10 May 2009 - 18:10
That's talked about in the forum. From what I remember it's a driver issue with your wifi card. Uninstall the win7 beta driver and use the newest Vista driver for your wifi. It sounds like this fixes it for people.
#7 Premgenius on 10 May 2009 - 15:47
Thanks for the update.
(1 reply) #8 signalpirate on 10 May 2009 - 18:40
you know i have to say that i'm really taken back by windows 7.
i was an official beta tester for vista and had problems galore. Now this windows 7 is proving to be amazing..

it's almost like bill told the windows development team to take a hike and hired a brand new team. I'm really looking forward to this new version. I think this will be a new chapter for windows.

#8.1 +Tony. on 10 May 2009 - 18:43
They had someone different managing the Windows development team, pretty much the same person who ran the Office 2007 team.
(5 replies) #9 jjrambo on 10 May 2009 - 20:32
Windows 7 suffers from same problems like Vista...Power Management is not working right. Just like Vista, Windows 7 doesn't detect i7 core speed right. WMP12 is step backwards from WMP11. I wonder about Audio fiasco support by Windows Vista, i hope they improved it with Windows 7. When i add and take everything out...for me it's not worth going from Windows Vista SP2.
#9.1 +Kirkburn on 10 May 2009 - 21:15
jjrambo said,
Windows 7 suffers from same problems like Vista...Power Management is not working right. Just like Vista, Windows 7 doesn't detect i7 core speed right. WMP12 is step backwards from WMP11. I wonder about Audio fiasco support by Windows Vista, i hope they improved it with Windows 7. When i add and take everything out...for me it's not worth going from Windows Vista SP2.

I'm confused - because some issues aren't "fixed" from Vista, Win7 can't be better in other ways?

What's the i7 core speed issue, and how does it affect performance? What's the problems with WMP12? Of course audio support will be better, it's essentially the same driver system from Vista.
#9.2 Kaidiir on 11 May 2009 - 08:25
I have an i7 system and Windows 7 detects core speed just fine. Granted my i7 is overclocked, but Vista didn't report any overclock speeds (nor do I really expect it to).

The only thing I hate about WMP12 is the lack of toolbar in the task bar. Hovering over the icon to change songs works... I guess... but I'd really like to have that toolbar back.

As for audio problems, I haven't had a single one. My Creative drivers work way better under Windows 7 than they ever did under Vista. Windows 7 automatically detected both the Realtek built-in audio and the Creative XFI card in my system. The Creative drivers give me a nicer UI to play with the EQ and surround effects, but out of the box all of those were available under Windows 7.


From where I sit, 7 is shaping up to be a brilliant piece of work. Can't wait for it to go gold so I can get myself a copy!
#9.3 jjrambo on 11 May 2009 - 16:05
Kaidiir said,
I have an i7 system and Windows 7 detects core speed just fine. Granted my i7 is overclocked, but Vista didn't report any overclock speeds (nor do I really expect it to).

The only thing I hate about WMP12 is the lack of toolbar in the task bar. Hovering over the icon to change songs works... I guess... but I'd really like to have that toolbar back.

As for audio problems, I haven't had a single one. My Creative drivers work way better under Windows 7 than they ever did under Vista. Windows 7 automatically detected both the Realtek built-in audio and the Creative XFI card in my system. The Creative drivers give me a nicer UI to play with the EQ and surround effects, but out of the box all of those were available under Windows 7.


From where I sit, 7 is shaping up to be a brilliant piece of work. Can't wait for it to go gold so I can get myself a copy!


It should detect overclocked speed correctly and it doesn't because it doesn't know how to read FSB which is not FSB anymore.
#9.4 GreyWolfSC on 11 May 2009 - 17:18
The only "fiasco" in the Vista audio stack is that Creative Labs didn't attend the Windows Vista hardware summit and didn't even attempt to write Vista drivers until a few months before RTM. It's totally Creative's fault, and they've paid for it.
#9.5 jjrambo on 11 May 2009 - 18:41
GreyWolfSC said,
The only "fiasco" in the Vista audio stack is that Creative Labs didn't attend the Windows Vista hardware summit and didn't even attempt to write Vista drivers until a few months before RTM. It's totally Creative's fault, and they've paid for it.


Sound quality under Windows XP is still way better then on Windows Vista SP2/Windows 7 so in that regard MS didn't improve anything.
#10 grewnd33 on 11 May 2009 - 12:20
We go through this debate every time MS releases an OS: "Windows suffers from X and X was better." People are too quick to jump to conclusions about Windows not working correctly, but it has nothing to do with anything they did, has nothing to do with the fact that they built their system incorrectly, or it has nothing to do with the fact they installed conflicting programs. Before you are so quick to judge MS, think about this, "Where would you be without Microsoft?" Sure Windows Me and Vista were not very good Operating Systems; however, even in beta stages, Windows 7, at least for me, is a very stable OS. When it comes down to it, Windows will not appeal to everyone, sort of how some people like Macs and some don't, and you have to look at the basic features it offers.
#11 jjrambo on 11 May 2009 - 18:38
Windows Vista is stable as much as Windows 7 is stable. Problems are bugs which are being carried out from one Windows release to next one. Btw Windows 7 is not faster then Windows Vista SP2 in any app or game. Windows XP is still faster then Windows Vista SP2/Windows 7 in any IO operations.

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