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Windows 7 build 7127 leaked

Tom Warren   on 15 May 2009 - 07:11 · 89 comments & 45201 views

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Redmond is still running low on Joe the plumbers as another Windows 7 leak surfaces today.

This time around it's the second RTM branch build to leak, 7127. Approximately a month after 7106 leaked. The build string is 7127.0.090507-1820 meaning it was compiled just over a week ago so it's still fresh off the blocks. Microsoft is progressing steadily with the RTM branch and company insiders have indicated the software giant is well on target to finalise the RTM build over the summer. Our guess? Late June or early July.

Microsoft is expected to announce general availability of Windows 7 for before the Christmas period, cashing in on holiday PC purchasers.


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(5 replies) #1 ajua on 15 May 2009 - 07:13
The RC build is working wonders on my laptop. I think i will do more testing before moving to newer builds.
#1.1 Beastage on 15 May 2009 - 13:14
Note tho, there is a major difference between RC and new RTM beta builds
the RC has no debug code so it performs faster and lighter.
#1.2 arh2o on 15 May 2009 - 17:23
Beastage said,
Note tho, there is a major difference between RC and new RTM beta builds
the RC has no debug code so it performs faster and lighter.

Is what he's saying true? I would think 7127 is faster than 7100. What do you guys think??
#1.3 GreyWolfSC on 15 May 2009 - 19:56
I've only used the beta and RC, but Vista, 7 Beta and 7 RC all seem to be about the same speed to me, so I'm happy with the performance. I keep hoping to see a glimpse of the things I felt were missing in the new taskbar, but no luck so far. (I'd like to be able to pin any shortcut to any icon, for example.)
#1.4 Minooch on 18 May 2009 - 06:55
GreyWolfSC said,
I've only used the beta and RC, but Vista, 7 Beta and 7 RC all seem to be about the same speed to me, so I'm happy with the performance. I keep hoping to see a glimpse of the things I felt were missing in the new taskbar, but no luck so far. (I'd like to be able to pin any shortcut to any icon, for example.)


You already can pin any shotcut to the taskbar
#1.5 Litespeed on 19 May 2009 - 03:44
arh2o said,
Beastage said,
Note tho, there is a major difference between RC and new RTM beta builds
the RC has no debug code so it performs faster and lighter.

Is what he's saying true? I would think 7127 is faster than 7100. What do you guys think??


No, I took that to mean that the RC is clean of debug code, and the later leaked versions are betas of the RTM and hence have debug code back in them. Therefore the newer builds are actually slower.
(1 reply) #2 hardgiant on 15 May 2009 - 07:21
Mostly bug fixes at this point...
#2.1 Lord Ba'al on 16 May 2009 - 01:26
As the RC is considered to be feature complete, that's only natural.

Anyway, keep the leaks coming!
(1 reply) #3 vsnap on 15 May 2009 - 07:25
Did somebody try to update from 7100?
#3.1 08993 on 15 May 2009 - 08:19
vsnap said,
Did somebody try to update from 7100?


Upgrade worked fine for me, same key used as well.
#4 Recon415 on 15 May 2009 - 07:27
A little bit closer...
(2 replies) #5 x-byte on 15 May 2009 - 07:41
I will be sticking to the RC until the RTM. Not much reason to update to this build.
#5.1 Cpugeni Ω on 15 May 2009 - 09:21
I agree. I'm using the RC as my main OS - the first time I have ever done this with effectively a beta OS - and I have no complaints at all, it is so so so much better than Vista. XP Mode - wow, what an awesome idea! Big thumbs up.
#5.2 CFer on 21 May 2009 - 19:34
Cpugeni Ω said,
I agree. I'm using the RC as my main OS - the first time I have ever done this with effectively a beta OS - and I have no complaints at all, it is so so so much better than Vista. XP Mode - wow, what an awesome idea! Big thumbs up.


Have you actually *tried* XP Mode? I actually said the same thing when I first heard about it... but then the inevitable happened; I tried it and it needs a lot of improvements.
(13 replies) #6 Antaris on 15 May 2009 - 07:51
I reckon its Microsoft themselves that are purposely leaking the builds
#6.1 FoxieFoxie on 15 May 2009 - 07:54
Antaris said,
I reckon its Microsoft themselves that are purposely leaking the builds


Oh, yeah. And once RTM leaks, it's also MS.
#6.2 linuxboynz on 15 May 2009 - 07:55
Antaris said,
I reckon its Microsoft themselves that are purposely leaking the builds

Yup, way to many builds since the first leak for it to be 'accidental'. I'm certainly not complaining, all the feedback on the net for all the builds leaked to date is win-win (no pun intended) for both end user and Microsoft. Don't shut that tap off just yet Redmond...keep on leakin' !
#6.3 linuxboynz on 15 May 2009 - 08:06
FoxieFoxie said,
Oh, yeah. And once RTM leaks, it's also MS.

Beta builds is plausible, think of the benefits to MS, RTM - ease off on the sarcasm dude.
#6.4 Jugalator on 15 May 2009 - 08:57
linuxboynz said,
Beta builds is plausible, think of the benefits to MS, RTM - ease off on the sarcasm dude.

Agreed on this.

This is at least an excellent way to keep the buzz going while taking zero responsibility for the support.
#6.5 Kushan on 15 May 2009 - 09:30
Or, you know, it could be the same people leaking them...
#6.6 excalpius on 15 May 2009 - 11:03
But MS isn't cracking down on the leaks because it serves their purpose. Wide testing without responsibility or repercussions.
#6.7 po134 on 15 May 2009 - 12:39
Antaris said,
I reckon its Microsoft themselves that are purposely leaking the builds



I guess all those trojan horse inside the w7 leaks are from MS trying to build a huge zombi network of PCs ... yeha sure ...
#6.8 Jugalator on 15 May 2009 - 12:43
po134 said,
I guess all those trojan horse inside the w7 leaks are from MS trying to build a huge zombi network of PCs ... yeha sure ...

wat
#6.9 artzm on 15 May 2009 - 13:43
po134 said,
I guess all those trojan horse inside the w7 leaks are from MS trying to build a huge zombi network of PCs ... yeha sure ...


What people do with the builds after they are leaked has nothing to do with whether MS is leaking them on purpose or not.
#6.10 king_of_hearts on 15 May 2009 - 13:44
po134 said,
I guess all those trojan horse inside the w7 leaks are from MS trying to build a huge zombi network of PCs ... yeha sure ...


What? Since when? Source? Why haven't I seen news of this?

Total confusion here. Am I the only one that hasn't heard a word of this?
#6.11 po134 on 15 May 2009 - 14:04
king_of_hearts said,
What? Since when? Source? Why haven't I seen news of this?


It's from steven sinofsky
"As we always say, please do not use what are reported to be "leaked" builds. So far many of them have contained risky payloads."

source: http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/05/1...e2.aspx#9606364

there ya go... maybe you people should sometimes read official comments comming from e7
#6.12 blackroseMD1 on 15 May 2009 - 16:12
Antaris said,
I reckon its Microsoft themselves that are purposely leaking the builds


Maybe, but I know for a fact that this leak came from someone that hasn't leaked before, and that works outside MS.
#6.13 geoken on 19 May 2009 - 13:49
po134 said,
I guess all those trojan horse inside the w7 leaks are from MS trying to build a huge zombi network of PCs ... yeha sure ...


How are the two connected? By your logic Apple never actually released iLife because someone repackaged it with a trojan.
#7 badblood on 15 May 2009 - 07:59
I know what I'm going to waste my bandwidth on anyway!
(2 replies) #8 nathanm on 15 May 2009 - 08:03
Where'z my change log?
#8.1 souldreamer on 15 May 2009 - 08:48
What changelog?
#8.2 king_of_hearts on 15 May 2009 - 13:48
Since when do we get a change log with leaked beta's?
(5 replies) #9 zoonyx on 15 May 2009 - 08:55
Neowin is still running low on non-tedious non-repetitive non-childish 'plumber' jokes.
#9.1 Tom W on 15 May 2009 - 09:05
non non non non....snore zzz.
#9.2 Victor V. on 15 May 2009 - 09:58
It's funny that you complained about it being repetitive and said "non" three times in six words.
#9.3 _X_ on 15 May 2009 - 13:09
He isn't posting news.
#9.4 +dead.cell on 15 May 2009 - 15:25
But he's posting a comment expecting someone to take him seriously?

Srsly?
#9.5 Ez8 on 15 May 2009 - 17:17
zoonyx said,
Neowin is still running low on non-tedious non-repetitive non-childish 'plumber' jokes.

Isn't "Joe the Plumber" a porn superstar for boiking Sarah Palin on the bathroom floor?
(3 replies) #10 Neo Razgriz on 15 May 2009 - 09:06
I wonder if this build would be bug-free as far as Windows Games (Freecell and the like). In 7100, at some point and for some unknown reason, the games had blank screens when started, and chess titans refused to load.

This was actually the only reason I couldn't use 7100 (my olds play those games often). If 7127 is free of this bug, then I could see myself using Windows 7 for sure.
#10.1 five1234 on 15 May 2009 - 10:01
just for your information: Windows 95 has also Freecell as a standard game... no need to upgrade to windows7
#10.2 GreyWolfSC on 15 May 2009 - 17:56
The included games work fine for me including Chess Titans. Maybe it's a video driver issue?
#10.3 Neo Razgriz on 16 May 2009 - 01:16
GreyWolfSC said,
The included games work fine for me including Chess Titans. Maybe it's a video driver issue?


I was using the latest Nvidia drivers at the time. I may test again at some point with 7127, once my data quota refreshes on the 19th (my timezone).
(2 replies) #11 LiquidSolstice on 15 May 2009 - 10:17
Well, any changelog at all?
#11.1 skynetXrules on 15 May 2009 - 11:01
it is a leaked build.

so nope
#11.2 excalpius on 15 May 2009 - 11:25
Expect only bug fixes and additional hardware drivers (the BIG focus right now) through RTM. Though they might slip in some extra goodies like a theme, wallpapers, icons, etc. Things that can't break the OS ever so close to release.
(3 replies) #12 BeAvataR on 15 May 2009 - 11:34
C00L !
I installed the December leak on a clean computer and it works like a charm...

Has anyone *dared* to upgrade a working, main computer? I'm still runnning XP, never switched to Vista but I'm tempted to upgrade my XP version with this Win7 leak...

Also, I think these versions are set to stop working at some point... any workarounds for that?

#12.1 iwant2noe on 15 May 2009 - 13:33
Been using Windows 7 ONLY for weeks! Course at the start it was a fresh install. Then after the 7000 just been upgrading and will continue to upgrade until the final release where I will do a clean install =)
#12.2 seb5150 on 15 May 2009 - 16:58
I'm on Win7 x64 RC only as my main PC. Haven't had a problem yet. I did a clean install from Vista64.
#12.3 bkimbler on 16 May 2009 - 14:37
I have been running the Win 7 x64 RC on my main PC and two laptops as the main OS and have had no problems whatsoever. Absolutely love it. I have just been using Vista64 drivers when needed (and the manufacturer does not have Win 7 drivers) and works fine.
(3 replies) #13 JonathanVP on 15 May 2009 - 12:01
I upgraded it from Win 7 Beta on my laptop and it works great except the "All Programs" stuff still missing.
#13.1 paulblacko on 15 May 2009 - 13:00
Hi JonathanVP

I had the same problemwith upgradingfrom vista.
Another time the upgrade process faulted in the middle and I lost my C drive

Did a clean install and it works like a dream
#13.2 х.iso on 15 May 2009 - 15:04
paulblacko said,
Hi JonathanVP

I had the same problemwith upgradingfrom vista.
Another time the upgrade process faulted in the middle and I lost my C drive

Did a clean install and it works like a dream

I also had that problem while uprgading from 7077 to 7100 on my laptop, after upgrade failure all the permissions got messed up, so I had no access to C: , but still I could go to any C: subfolder by typing exact path and hopefully got working network sharing to my librarys (but to access my laptop from other computer I've should type IP address instead of computer name) where all the needed files was, so I did backup and then format C and clean install.
#13.3 JonathanVP on 17 May 2009 - 12:03
Thanks guys, I ended up reformatting my laptop and installing 7127. Strange cause when I upgraded 7127 over 7100 on a test desktop machine, everything worked just fine.
(6 replies) #14 Beastage on 15 May 2009 - 13:15
OMG did you people miss the great GUI change!? the superbar is on the fricking left!
#14.1 five1234 on 15 May 2009 - 13:26
I hope you are Joking...
This can be done in vista,Xp,...
#14.2 iwant2noe on 15 May 2009 - 13:32
If he isn't kiddin - then
#14.3 po134 on 15 May 2009 - 14:07
and the "start" text is missing !!!
#14.4 nonick on 15 May 2009 - 14:20
#14.5 five1234 on 15 May 2009 - 18:47
and the recycle bin is on the right!!!
#14.6 Meconio on 15 May 2009 - 21:06
i wanna see how the system does once the final GUI is added, so far so good with RC.
(1 reply) #15 babyHacker on 15 May 2009 - 13:52
Wonder if WMC is less buggy when using an Xbox as an extender than it is in the RC.

I am really thinking of going back to Vista or maybe just caving in and getting a DVR from TWC. I have been using WMC for years but the constant issues of connection, bad digital recordings (or no recordings because WMC has a fit), bugs and having to adjust my antenna all the time makes me wonder if a TWC DVR at $20 a month would just be worth my hassle.

If Microsoft would support cable cards more, this would solve half the issues but it seems I am hoping for too much. If it makes sense, Microsoft probably hasn't thought of it yet.
#15.1 GreyWolfSC on 15 May 2009 - 15:04
The issue with cable cards lies with the cable companies. They will not allow you to build your own HTPC and get a card for it. It has to be on the "approved" list of PCs.
(1 reply) #16 Airlink on 15 May 2009 - 14:56
I'm off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of bit torrent.
#16.1 SirEvan on 15 May 2009 - 15:50
lol
(3 replies) #17 iCan_Fly on 15 May 2009 - 15:09
can i upgrade my RCbuild to this build?will it retain our setting?thx
#17.1 stezo2k on 15 May 2009 - 15:42
iCan_Fly said,
can i upgrade my RCbuild to this build?will it retain our setting?thx

you can do but i wouldnt recommend it, may be more buggier
#17.2 BoDEAN on 15 May 2009 - 18:02
Buggier?
#17.3 Steven77 on 15 May 2009 - 20:33
BoDEAN said,
Buggier?


Ya buggier.
#18 hotdog963al on 15 May 2009 - 18:07
I like the screenshot shown, just need to drop Aero and we'll be away!
(1 reply) #19 thenextos on 15 May 2009 - 20:58
Hey Hi everyone, well this is my first post to neowin forum.... well its really good being here.....
well the screenshot does not have any new stuff in it...... well i thk that this leaked relase must have some bug fixes...nothing more than that........ well right now im doing good with windsws 7 rc.. its actualy forcing me to get myself upgraded from winxp to win7 ..... which i have been using since 6 yrs.......
well the dream feature which i really want in windows os wld be that when ur downloading a huge file and u dont want ur power to be consumed more.. u just want the downloading stuff to work, rest processing must go off....when it goes in new power saving mode......... i hope it comes some day......
#19.1 Gabe3 on 16 May 2009 - 17:29
thenextos said,
Hey Hi everyone, well this is my first post to neowin forum.... well its really good being here.....
well the screenshot does not have any new stuff in it...... well i thk that this leaked relase must have some bug fixes...nothing more than that........ well right now im doing good with windsws 7 rc.. its actualy forcing me to get myself upgraded from winxp to win7 ..... which i have been using since 6 yrs.......
well the dream feature which i really want in windows os wld be that when ur downloading a huge file and u dont want ur power to be consumed more.. u just want the downloading stuff to work, rest processing must go off....when it goes in new power saving mode......... i hope it comes some day......

well that was really well written.
(4 replies) #20 jjrambo on 15 May 2009 - 23:15
This build has less bugs then RC but still Windows 7 in this stage in my book satisfies BETA tag only. This OS is totally pointless, i have see no advantages over Vista SP2.
#20.1 eblkheart on 15 May 2009 - 23:47
jjrambo said,
This build has less bugs then RC but still Windows 7 in this stage in my book satisfies BETA tag only. This OS is totally pointless, i have see no advantages over Vista SP2.

I remember hearing that same argument when XP came out and people said that they wouldn't upgrade from win98. Funny how things change.
#20.2 Vakerorokero on 16 May 2009 - 03:22
You probably just use your pc for games and internet. If that is the case, yeah, upgrading from Vista is just overkill.

But for the rest of use that need a stable machine should upgrade, that won't crash with ANY software, must update. Actually even the games runs a bit faster so you should.
#20.3 jjrambo on 16 May 2009 - 15:53
Vakerorokero said,
You probably just use your pc for games and internet. If that is the case, yeah, upgrading from Vista is just overkill.

But for the rest of use that need a stable machine should upgrade, that won't crash with ANY software, must update. Actually even the games runs a bit faster so you should.


Windows 7 is really really minor upgrade over Windows Vista. Btw i use Visual Studio 2008 under Vista.
#20.4 stezo2k on 16 May 2009 - 18:29
ok with appearence it does look very similar but it performs a lot better and even at beta stages is just as stable. its lightning quick even on 1GB of ram and it works great on netbooks where as vista doesnt (check out the sony netbook) and also driver support is fantastic out of the box and using windows updates, ive installed it on 4 machines and it installed drivers for everything. i personally love it
(2 replies) #21 LFB on 16 May 2009 - 03:23
And here we go...
RTM ESCROW 7130 is right on his way, take a look on the folder of this guy:



#21.1 Gabe3 on 16 May 2009 - 17:31
RTM ? what??
#21.2 hardgiant on 17 May 2009 - 04:48
Gabe3 said,
RTM ? what??


RTM branch will have many builds before the final RTM.
#22 rastaman 4-2-0 on 16 May 2009 - 04:08
will this build work with the Nvidia RC driver as well or will it be incompatible like the nvidia beta driver which didnt work on builds later than Win 7 beta build 7000
(3 replies) #23 jjrambo on 16 May 2009 - 15:54
Even though Windows 7 is minor upgrade over Windows Vista, i like new MS approach where they take things slowly. I believe Windows 8 is going to be evolution of Windows 7. Only what really concerns me is pricing, at least Vista Ultimate users should have free upgrade.
#23.1 k7of9 on 16 May 2009 - 19:54
ffs cut the i should get a free upgrade because seven is what vista should have been crap, it's getting old.
there's more than enough improvements and features in seven to warrant a new version. seven is not a minor upgrade.
#23.2 jjrambo on 16 May 2009 - 21:21
k7of9 said,
ffs cut the i should get a free upgrade because seven is what vista should have been crap, it's getting old.
there's more than enough improvements and features in seven to warrant a new version. seven is not a minor upgrade.


Sorry but it is minor.
#23.3 k7of9 on 17 May 2009 - 10:02
Your well motivated arguments have won me over. You're right.





let me guess, the 6.1 numbering is what you go by.
#24 maccik on 17 May 2009 - 14:38
6.1.7105.0.winmain.090404-1235
6.1.7106.0.winmain.090408-1623
6.1.7107.0.winmain.090409-1840
6.1.7108.0.winmain.090410-1755
6.1.7109.0.winmain.090413-1552
6.1.7110.0.winmain.090414-1906
6.1.7111.0.winmain.090415-1920
6.1.7112.0.winmain.090416-1820
6.1.7113.0.winmain.090417-1710
6.1.7114.0.winmain.090420-1603
6.1.7115.0.winmain.090421-1650
6.1.7116.0.winmain.090422-1816
6.1.7117.0.winmain.090423-1737
6.1.7118.0.winmain.090424-1710
6.1.7119.0.winmain.090427-1750
6.1.7120.0.winmain.090428-1740
6.1.7121.0.winmain.090429-1835
6.1.7122.0.winmain.090430-1800
6.1.7123.0.winmain.090501-1720
6.1.7124.0.winmain.090504-1715
6.1.7125.0.winmain.090505-1530
6.1.7126.0.winmain.090506-1820
6.1.7127.0.winmain.090507-1820 - build leaked to web
6.1.7128.0.winmain.090508-xxxx
6.1.7129.0.winmain.090511-xxxx
6.1.7130.0.winmain.090512-xxxx
6.1.7131.0.winmain.090513-xxxx
6.1.7132.0.winmain.090514-xxxx - actual build in winmain branch
#25 xXDestroyerGRXx on 18 May 2009 - 15:47
Is it slow like other versions? pm me
#26 blehbleh on 18 May 2009 - 17:31
Where can i get the background image from that screenshot?
#27 bamatek on 18 May 2009 - 20:02
of course it is "unofficially" sanctioned. Even "so-called" internal messages posted on ms intranets have been leaked.

Not only does it provide risk-free testing, it increases the amount of distribution units. Therefore everyone is not banging on MS servers.

This time MS is doing it right - if you want to introduce a new O/S - then let the techs have it. Isn't that smarter then showing end users "how easy it is to create a panaromic photograph" Ha Ha!!
#28 forcer on 19 May 2009 - 10:24
the screenshot looks great, i really need to start making use of the new task bar.

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