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Andrew Fairbairn   on 30 May 2009 - 18:13 · 70 comments & 13004 views

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Since Microsoft officially announced their new search engine Bing on Thursday it seems to have impressed many critics and is showing definite improvements over its predecessor Live Search. But does Bing have what it takes to make an impact and claim a decent chunk of the market share? Here we will look at various aspects and issues that may contribute to Bing being either a success or another disappointment for Microsoft.

Does it have a ring?
So to start off, does the name have a ring to it? Compared to Microsoft's previous search iterations (MSN Search, Windows Live Search and Live Search) it is obviously a lot sharper and more memorable and compared to the other suggestions that were floating about (Hook and Kumo - which was used as the codename for internal testing - and even Sift and Swivel) Bing is also a lot catchier. The onomatopoeic aspect is a slight bonus and goes along with the idea of it being the sound of the "moment of discovery" (think of when a lightbulb appears over someone's head in a cartoon), however annoying the sound can get. It also works better as a verb than the other names; you can google something and now you Microsoft want you to bing things as well.

Will people sing?
People have already been singing the praises of Bing. Rafe Needleman from CNET was initially sceptical of what the new search engine would be like, as I imagine lots of other technology writers were or are, but was pleasantly surprised. After actually using it he was won over and even noted that "it beats Google in important areas." Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak was another to be unexpectedly impressed, telling Yahoo!'s Tech Ticker that it was one of "the most astounding software demos" he'd seen and that he'd like to give Bing a try.

What about the king?
Google is undeniably the king of search. With a very strong brand and user experience with market dominance, there's no way Bing could ever catch up. Bing is not Google and nor is it a 'Google killer', I'm sure Microsoft realise that. Going back to Rafe Needleman for a second, he thinks that "Bing makes Google look complacent, and that's not good for Google" yet we have all seen in the past that Google is not complacent and always seems to be innovating. When search is your main business, you're going to pay more attention to it. As for the Google brand, it is now a way of life for most when looking for anything on the internet and has simply become the de facto standard, regardless of the results it produces. There are even rumours that Google have conducted internal tests where they pass off other search engines' results under the Google logo and found that people still prefered them just because of the branding. On the other hand, I know people who seem to never type a URL, they have Google set as their homepage and type in the name of the website they want to get there because they are just complacent with Google knowing it all and being the easiest thing to do and are stuck in the habit.

Will it take wings?
Will Bing catch on with the ordinary consumer and will it take off and become popular? Microsoft are expected to spend up to $100 million on an advertising campaign for Bing, spanning the Internet, TV, radio and print. The campaign will, apparently, try to convince users that the search engines they are currently using (without mentioning names) don't actually work as well as they think and that they could solve more of their problems by switching to Bing. Advertising agency JWT are rumoured to be in charge. No-one knows how well the ads will work and surely Microsoft can't just keep throwing money at a non-core business during the economic downturn (or the economic reset as Steve Ballmer nicely puts it). Whether consumers will take to Bing, and if so for how long, remains to be seen but stranger things have happened.

Does it have any zing?
The current Live Search service definitely lacks a zest in terms of, well, nearly everything. Its US market share seems to have stagnated somewhere between five and ten percent and showed no real sign of improvement. Can the evolution from Live Search to Bing breathe a bit of life into Microsoft's search product. Overall the product seems to be a lot better - a better experience, better results, better interface and of course a better name - but will this translate into a lasting better product once the 'newness' has worn off?

Kerching?
Will Bing make a profit for Microsoft and be sustainable? The new experience of Bing apparently focuses on four main search verticals: shopping, travel, healthcare and local. With Bing the revenue seems to come from advertising and as well as the traditional "sponsored link" style ads, it appears that companies can pay to be featured within the shopping, travel and local sections. Also with the shopping vertical, the cashback program not only provides some cashback to the consumer but companies have to pay for their products to appear so, as I'm lead to believe, with every purchase you make Microsoft also receives some cash.

The real thing?
By the middle of next week Bing should be available worldwide. We'll then see if Bing lives up to the small cloud of hype that it has so far created and whether it really is good enough to take some of Google's users.

Warning: editorial. May contain opinion. The views expressed here are those of the author, do not necessarily represent those of Neowin, and definitely don't represent those of Chandler Bing or Bing Crosby. Bada bing. Bada boom.

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(14 replies) #1 neo7 on 30 May 2009 - 19:16
bing
#1.1 andrewbares on 30 May 2009 - 19:42
Bing!
#1.2 +warwagon on 30 May 2009 - 20:53
Bing
#1.3 zeta_immersion on 30 May 2009 - 23:08
Bing?!
#1.4 basix on 30 May 2009 - 23:47
Ba Da Bing!
#1.5 Recon415 on 31 May 2009 - 00:01
C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!
#1.6 LAMj on 31 May 2009 - 00:19
bomb!
#1.7 The_Decryptor on 31 May 2009 - 02:45
Zing!
#1.8 AnthoWin on 31 May 2009 - 06:47
kaching!

the name wants to be as popular that other terms MS made popular over the years:
Vista
Blue Screen of Death
Ctrl+Alt+Delete
#1.9 liamwolf on 31 May 2009 - 10:27
neo7 said,
bing
Gotta Catch them All, Po-Ke-Mon
#1.10 chast™ on 31 May 2009 - 11:09
chk chk BING!
#1.11 duneworld on 31 May 2009 - 14:16
Bing bing bing bing bing bing bing!
#1.12 Lt-DavidW on 31 May 2009 - 14:42
I don't understand... is this Neowin or reddit?
#1.13 Glendi on 31 May 2009 - 20:51
B-B-B-B-B-iiiiiiing
#1.14 Sam Symons on 31 May 2009 - 21:15
Lt-DavidW said,
I don't understand... is this Neowin or reddit?

LOL.
(1 reply) #2 Rev. on 30 May 2009 - 19:16
The only problem I have with there new rebranded search engine is...the rebranded name. bing and it's logo seems like something I would find on the back of a little kids toy. I would of loved if they just stuck with kumo. I can't really explain why I like it more, but to me bing just sounds a bit childish. I don't get the reaction of bing! here are your results from seeing/reading the name.
#2.1 Imran Hussain on 31 May 2009 - 19:06
The google logo also looks like something you'd find on a toy
(2 replies) #3 HalcyonX12 on 30 May 2009 - 19:18
All this rhetoric around a name change. Sure, it can aggregate some meta content from certain sites, but they can't keep their data scrapers up to date when sites change their layouts, and many smaller/local sites will be left out of the mix. I don't think it'll work so automagically, and there will still be a lot of hunting to do, especially if you are looking for specific data and not a low price on the newest camera or cell phone. As a straight up search engine, for aggregating data and providing accurate results to specific requests, it'll probably use the same method that was used in all past MS search pages, and won't really be any better unless you're a shop-a-holic or you're always looking up movie times. Everyone already has their favorite places bookmarked when it comes to that (for example they just use amazon and ebay only for all their purchases, etc), and there's no way stores will want to be compared on truly equal footing, there will be rigged (paid-for) results that mask true competition and more. I really don't see how it can work.
#3.1 excalpius on 30 May 2009 - 19:30
Yeah, it just allows them to pipe in the major paid-for space "partners" into those key locations.

I'll only be impressed if it's capable of showing a REAL hidden bargain amidst the corporate payola partner tidal waves.
#3.2 GreyWolfSC on 01 Jun 2009 - 05:24
excalpius said,
Yeah, it just allows them to pipe in the major paid-for space "partners" into those key locations.

I'll only be impressed if it's capable of showing a REAL hidden bargain amidst the corporate payola partner tidal waves.


It can't possibly be worse than Google's shopping links. 99% of the hits are from companies I wouldn't take money from let alone give to them.
(1 reply) #4 excalpius on 30 May 2009 - 19:27
And, of course, no mention of any improvements to IMAGE searching, which is the one area where we really need major progress and still see nothing happening of significance.

For example, if I want to search Google images for all images of the Grand Canyon wider than 2,000 pixels (for use as a wallpaper, stock footage for graphic design, professional or home video, etc. etc.) I can't do it.

Their big, large, etc. categories have a ridiculously low image size threshold as their largest option, and their only size indicators are exact values instead of relative. So I can search all grand canyon images that just happen to exactly be 1024 pixels wide for example.

Bleh.

But yeah, MS believes the market needs yet another travel links search site....pfft.
#4.1 GreyWolfSC on 01 Jun 2009 - 05:46
Go try it. It searches images at least as well as Google, maybe even better.
(2 replies) #5 rakeshishere on 30 May 2009 - 19:30
I for one welcome our Bing overlords
#5.1 Marshalus on 30 May 2009 - 21:48
Anything to give Google some sweaty palms is good by me.
#5.2 Imran Hussain on 31 May 2009 - 19:06
+1
(3 replies) #6 thealexweb on 30 May 2009 - 20:06
Buying AOL and / or Yahoo would still be better in my opinion
#6.1 Marshalus on 30 May 2009 - 21:49
Two engines people hate just as much as Live Search?
#6.2 toadeater on 30 May 2009 - 22:41
Marshalus said,
Two engines people hate just as much as Live Search?


I don't think people hate any engine, Google offers everything they need, it doesn't spam them, make it difficult to use, or try to rip them off. Maybe Google does spy on users' every move, but so does MS, Yahoo and every other major service. Live and Yahoo offer nothing Google doesn't already have.

If Live's results were better in some way then people would use it. It's as simple as that. Marketing isn't going to get anyone to switch, fancy interfaces won't do it either, unless they genuinely improve search results somehow.
#6.3 Calum on 01 Jun 2009 - 14:15
toadeater said,
I don't think people hate any engine

I hate Google for the simple fact it looks ugly. Because it looks ugly, I do not find it enjoyable to use.

You may think that's a silly reason for hate something, but I am all about all aspects of user experience, not just some and making a web application which looks nice is part of user experience
(1 reply) #7 +Odom on 30 May 2009 - 20:26
This will always remind me of Chandler Bing
#7.1 +Fabian- on 31 May 2009 - 06:03
Odom said,
This will always remind me of Chandler Bing


Chanandler Bong
#8 burnblue on 30 May 2009 - 21:22
This was cute, *ing for all the headers
(2 replies) #9 gigapixels on 30 May 2009 - 21:29
Well the promotional video looks pretty cool, so I'd like to try it out when it's actually available. Not sure yet how well it will compete though.

And I just noticed all the subtitles ending with -ing. You newsposters have way too much time on your hands
#9.1 Victor V. on 30 May 2009 - 23:22
HAHAH Noticed now XD
#9.2 Sam Symons on 31 May 2009 - 00:41
gigapixels said,
You newsposters have way too much time on your hands

(3 replies) #10 forcer on 30 May 2009 - 21:31
who actually uses another search engine, on a daily basis, instead of google? because i don't know ANYONE and i work in IT. Even the illiterate computer users will ask me 'how can i get onto google..' and this is people who dont know how to use the internet.

it's a shame to say it, because i've never even gave other search engines the time of day to see if i can get better results. I know it says it's not a 'google killer' and a little/possible competition is always good to see.. but in this case it seems rather pointless. There would need to be a more innovative search engine that offers something new in a way of fetching and displaying results because google has the 'traditional' way.
#10.1 nonick on 30 May 2009 - 21:38
until google stops working, i'm sure, no body.
#10.2 revreddy on 30 May 2009 - 22:40
I am inclined to say that just might change when Bing launches next week. For one, I am planning to switching since lot of the features, screenshots, and reviews seem to be quite positive. Sure, Google's algorithm might be far superior in bringing more accurate results overall, but Bing seems to succeed in pulling up more wealth of relevant info right up front, minimizing the number of clicks or different search queries needed to find what you want.
#10.3 Victor V. on 30 May 2009 - 23:21
It's the same reason I sit on the same place on school everyday and watch porn on the same site. It's like... default.
(2 replies) #11 on 01 Jan 1970 - 00:00
#11.1 nonick on 30 May 2009 - 21:37
bing it is easy on the ear?

.................
#11.2 Victor V. on 30 May 2009 - 23:17
bing it is actually easier to speak, but not easier on the ear...
(1 reply) #12 Rob on 30 May 2009 - 22:34
Great article
#12.1 duneworld on 31 May 2009 - 14:35
+1
#13 EVANK on 31 May 2009 - 00:08
Good idea but I'm wondering, does Microsoft pull names out of a hat or something... I mean Bing... they could have come up with a better name than Bing?
#14 dimithrak on 31 May 2009 - 00:43
good read, but seriously, how long did you take to come up with the rhymes?

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#15 Ludexiz on 31 May 2009 - 01:24
wasn't there a 3D halloween cartoon with a spring monster named bing?
(3 replies) #16 Nashy on 31 May 2009 - 01:59
Great article. I think I vomitted a little with the overuse of rhyming words.

Man, my spelling is good today.
#16.1 michael.dobrofsky on 31 May 2009 - 03:58
I vomited in my mouth, then swallowed it back down.
#16.2 Neobond on 31 May 2009 - 12:58
I vomited a little just for reading the above 2 comments
#16.3 SuperHans on 31 May 2009 - 13:03
some came out of my nose
#17 scaramonga on 31 May 2009 - 02:00
God.......how I luv GOOGLE.
#18 AnthoWin on 31 May 2009 - 06:56
"Bing Lee" is known for selling electronics and white goods at reasonable prices in Australia. Are they ready to sue?
#19 ay:man on 31 May 2009 - 07:17
microsoft gonna bing us big time.
#20 bradsday on 31 May 2009 - 13:51
Everytime I hear "bing" it reminds me of the Sopranos.

(2 replies) #21 statepkt on 31 May 2009 - 16:15
Is it just me or does bing's search results look a lot like google's?
#21.1 +Kirkburn on 31 May 2009 - 20:26
statepkt said,
Is it just me or does bing's search results look a lot like google's?

You mean they look like a list of results? There's only so much you can do.
#21.2 Calum on 01 Jun 2009 - 14:17
statepkt said,
Is it just me or does bing's search results look a lot like google's?

It must just be you.

Google use that horrible blue colour on their links. As far as I can tell, the links on Bing's search results are a nicer, darker, shade of blue.
#22 HalcyonX12 on 31 May 2009 - 16:35
Also with the shopping vertical, the cashback program not only provides some cashback to the consumer but companies have to pay for their products to appear so, as I'm lead to believe, with every purchase you make Microsoft also receives some cash.
It can't be both cheaper for the consumer and more expensive for the supplier. If MS gets money from the sale, and the supplier has to pay to be featured, and smaller players who don't pay will be obscured, then the end result will be that it's more expensive for those who use Bing! to make their purchasing decisions. (I guess the search engine won't be deciding things that don't have to do with your money, I don't know, but it doesn't seem to mention that)
#23 Imran Hussain on 31 May 2009 - 19:08
"Hot chick"
"What's her name?"
"Ah, let me google, I mean. bing her"
#24 Davo on 31 May 2009 - 19:12
While I'm excited for it, it looks too cluttered. Reminds me of a neo-Yahoo.
#25 robertwnielsen on 31 May 2009 - 19:47
My question is, for people who have Windows Live toolbars, will there be a Bing toolbar?
#26 Jugalator on 31 May 2009 - 20:19
I think I'll end up on the side of the Ars Technica reviewer.

An improvement over Live Search, usable in certain scenarios, with Google still the main search engine due to the apparent lack of significant improvements in accuracy. But for niche uses, maybe.
#27 ghos on 31 May 2009 - 23:43
I was rather blah about bing at first, but now after seeing this video it is pretty amazing. Linked here Bing:Test Drive

I'm certainly willing to give it a try. My main beef is one some have mentioned already is that the results look exactly like Google. I realize many results pages look similar but I'd like to see bing differentiate itself a little more there. The front page has an image, so why not at least some more color in the results. Most won't even see the front page since they'll do search with a built in search bar in the browser (at least that's how I do it usually).
#28 GreyWolfSC on 01 Jun 2009 - 05:48
Bing.com is now live for me. I like. Just added it to my Firefox search box.
#29 ]SK[ on 01 Jun 2009 - 07:02
When I saw ding, I thought this was about WoW.
#30 Archangel Tyrael on 01 Jun 2009 - 08:55
Currently set this as my default search engine in Chrome, to see how it works.
#31 +lcg on 01 Jun 2009 - 10:29
I just added Bing to my search box on Firefox and IE. I'm going to try Bing for some time.
#32 Calum on 01 Jun 2009 - 14:19
I'm also now using this as my main, default, search engine Let's see how it plays out - hopefully I won't have to use Google again


EDIT -

Okay, after using Bing for a bit, I'm very disappointed in Microsoft. Bing is much better than Live Search and Google, but they have yet again not given a lot of other markets the same features which have been advertised and a lot of the more useful features. I'm extremely annoyed.

Using the 'United Kingdom' market, search "New York", then do the same using the 'United States (English)' market. Notice much difference? There is a lot - mainly the sidebar which has links to things like a map of New York, attractions, tourism information etc is not in the 'United Kingdom' version. also, the pager to change the homepage image is not included in the 'United Kingdom' version. Then, to make matters worse, they've kept the links above the search bar in the 'United Kingdom' version, rather than putting them in an 'Explore' sidebar down the left-hand side. Why? What could possibly be the reason for any of these inconsistencies and limitations for the customers from the United Kingdom?

It says the product is a beta but I don't think that's the reason for this problem, in this case. The US version says it's a preview.

Last edited by Calum on 01 Jun 2009 - 15:43
#33 manosdoc on 01 Jun 2009 - 15:33
HOPE they FIx suggestions work THIS time !
#34 ManOfMystery on 01 Jun 2009 - 19:15
Bing is just Live Search which is a product of desperation by Microsoft wanting a slice of the search engine pie. No pie for you, Microsoft. You had your chance and you mucked it up. Eventually you'll end up like GM....

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