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OpenSolaris 2009.06 blazes forth

James7   on 02 June 2009 - 11:28, updated 02 June 2009 - 14:46 · 40 comments & 7183 views

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OpenSolaris started life as an open-source version of Sun's venerable and well-respected Unix-based operating system Solaris. Since its first proper release over a year ago, it has moved forward by leaps and bounds, and the latest release, 2009.06, brings the OS right up to the cutting edge.

It uses the Gnome desktop, and most popular software packages that are found on standard Linux distros have versions for OpenSolaris, including OpenOffice.org, Firefox, and so forth. As with Linux, most, if not all, of the software you'll need is free and open-source with OpenSolaris.


Image courtesy of OpenSolaris.com. See link for large, full-resolution image.

The new Package Manager--OpenSolaris's "one stop shop" for software--is even easier to use, and OpenSolaris's SourceJuicer will now make it even easier for developers to submit new software for testing and inclusion in the OpenSolaris repository.


Image courtesy of OpenSolaris.com. See link for large, full-resolution image.

OpenSolaris 2009.06 comes with a GUI for Time Slider, a program that takes snapshots of your hard drive for backup and retrieval purposes, similar to Apple's Time Machine.


Image courtesy of OpenSolaris.com. See link for large, full-resolution image.

On the hardware front, 2009.06 now supports a greater number of drivers, including more wifi drivers and many new video drivers for nVidia, ATI, IBM, and Sun video chipsets. For those designing and managing complicated networks, OpenSolaris's Crossbow can now virtualize many functions that previously would have required specialized networking hardware, meaning that cheaper, commodity hardware can be used instead.

The last version, 2008.11, came (and still does come) preinstalled on Toshiba Tecra® M10 and Portégé® R600 laptops. OpenSolaris 2009.06 will be available preinstalled on even more systems as the weeks and months roll on.

If you are keen to give OpenSolaris 2009.06 a try, you can download a LiveCD for free from OpenSolaris.com.

The OpenSolaris LiveCD works the same as it does for most popular Linux distros. You download the image, burn it to a CD, boot from it and run it in Live mode so that you can see if everything on your system is supported before you consider installing the OS. The LiveCD is only available for x86 and x64 formats. However, if you've got new or older SPARC hardware, be sure to grab the SPARC install CD instead!

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#1 VIVIsectVI on 02 Jun 2009 - 14:29
Awesome. Thank you for putting this on the main page. Good to see some variety on here once in awhile.
(3 replies) #2 Dead_Monkey on 02 Jun 2009 - 14:31
I'd be interested in hearing if anyone has tried using this in a virtual machine on Windows. I know it wouldn't be accelerated, but I'd be interested in using it in that context if performance is ok.
#2.1 Lannister on 02 Jun 2009 - 15:15
Installed fine in Virtualbox 2.2.2 on Win7 64bit, but won't boot. It just get's stuck loading. Going to try the latest Virtualbox, 2.2.4, later.
#2.2 Foxxx428 on 02 Jun 2009 - 19:00
I ran it on vmware about 6 months ago and it ran fine.
#2.3 chaoist on 13 Aug 2009 - 22:42
Lannister said,
Installed fine in Virtualbox 2.2.2 on Win7 64bit, but won't boot. It just get's stuck loading. Going to try the latest Virtualbox, 2.2.4, later.


I also had a problem running OpenSolaris on Win7 64-bit, and eventually found that if I made the following settings changes - disable ACPI, IO APIC and VT-x/AMD-v - then it would then boot.
(2 replies) #3 Marshalus on 02 Jun 2009 - 14:56
I'll be snagging a copy of this when I get home tonight. I used 2008.11 for a little while but it did not work anywhere near as well as I would have hoped. Hopefully that has changed with this version.
#3.1 Lord Ba'al on 03 Jun 2009 - 01:19
Any idea where to get the x64 version? They say they have one, but I only see download links for osol-0906-x86.iso...

Also, any chance to get this with Kde4?
#3.2 Pam14160 on 03 Jun 2009 - 18:42
They have both version as a single download on their download site. Downloading at the present. As soon as the download is complete will attempt to run it in VM Ware Workstation. . .if I think about will post back later as to how it went
(1 reply) #4 Airlink on 02 Jun 2009 - 15:47
Looks a lot like Ubuntu.
#4.1 VIVIsectVI on 02 Jun 2009 - 15:49
Airlink said,
Looks a lot like Ubuntu.


By that logic, I guess anything using Gnome looks a lot like ubuntu.
(8 replies) #5 kerneltie on 02 Jun 2009 - 16:17
Dear Unix/Linux,

I notice that while your shell is very functional, your GUI is not.

Please write back when your GUI is functional too.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Kind Regards.
#5.1 brentaal on 02 Jun 2009 - 16:51
What exactly isn't functional?
#5.2 Grandaevus on 02 Jun 2009 - 17:28
Spoken with the fine voice of a true closed mind, man I'm tired of these flame bait postings...
#5.3 protocol7 on 02 Jun 2009 - 19:06
Grandaevus said,
Spoken with the fine voice of a true closed mind, man I'm tired of these flame bait postings...

Then don't take the bait
#5.4 +Chicane-UK on 02 Jun 2009 - 19:35
Unfortunately some people can't grasp the concept that an OS is so much more than the GUI that sits on top of it. Their loss.
#5.5 bauhaus on 02 Jun 2009 - 23:14
Chicane-UK said,
Unfortunately some people can't grasp the concept that an OS is so much more than the GUI that sits on top of it. Their loss.


But also is true that you access what is under the OS using that GUI, si it's an element you cant ignore.
#5.6 vetmarkjensen on 03 Jun 2009 - 11:17
bauhaus said,
But also is true that you access what is under the OS using that GUI, si it's an element you cant ignore.

Exactly! Which is why I could never go back to that broken (non-existent, really) package management system that is Windows. An administration nightmare to keep everything updated.
#5.7 Dave_ek on 03 Jun 2009 - 11:32
Chicane-UK said,
Unfortunately some people can't grasp the concept that an OS is so much more than the GUI that sits on top of it. Their loss.


Think all you Linux fanboys are so obviously missing the point here.

I tried to use Ubuntu/Fedora and can't for the love of me work out why anyone would want to install/remove/change/edit/add things using commands..... I should NOT have to learn basically a coding language to use an Operating system. That is what the GUI is for... to provide the user with clear menus/options for doing what they want to do...

You just encounter problem after problem if you do not understand linux commands... MacOS and Windows take up so much room but I'm sorry... it's worth the money

P.S I think I mean Unix commands... sorry I always mix up Linux Unix (noticed when reading a comment further down hehe)
#5.8 Dave_ek on 03 Jun 2009 - 11:55
urm i mean money & space....
#6 archer75 on 02 Jun 2009 - 16:48
I'm interested in it just for the ZFS and raidz alone.
#7 thealexweb on 02 Jun 2009 - 18:26
I think Solaris is rather good my netgear wireless card worked out of the box, on Vista and 7 it doesn't.
#8 Obry on 02 Jun 2009 - 19:54
I generally like Gnome but haven't they heard of padding between icons? And maybe some sort of a divider between the system menus and the app shortcuts? It just looks so rough the way the icons are slammed next to each other without even 1px space between them...
(7 replies) #9 ricksterto on 02 Jun 2009 - 21:02
Tried this version....

1) very slow compared to others - my 9550 ran like a 486
2) despite what they advertise, it doesn't automatically identify and support as many hardware devices as other distros
3) frustrating - the package manager rebuilds each time it is run - and it takes more time than it should; although this won't be a problem once you have things setup, it's a definite pain on an initial install
#9.1 VIVIsectVI on 02 Jun 2009 - 21:53
What 'other distros' are you referring to?

Wait...did you think this was Linux?
#9.2 ricksterto on 03 Jun 2009 - 02:11
The kernel is linux based but with many many sun mods - the reason that this went open-sourced. Unfortunately for Sun, this really hasn't caught on leaving the product outdated.

Just take a look at the packages installed - many are borrowed from the linux world.

I know that this is supposed to be targeted at servers, but poor performance on base operations is not acceptable.
#9.3 ricksterto on 03 Jun 2009 - 02:13
Whoops - can't seem to edit....meant to say unix (linux of course is based on unix as well)
#9.4 VIVIsectVI on 03 Jun 2009 - 02:37
Where did you get the idea that the Solaris kernel is linux-based?
#9.5 ricksterto on 03 Jun 2009 - 05:40
Because I actually developed for their open-source project - it's more linux than unix now; and failing. People were trying to buy Sun for Java, not their sever tech - while kind of. If you could take one competitor out and let that side die....

PS: you can install many deb packages without rebuilding - what does that say?
#9.6 dyn on 03 Jun 2009 - 14:20
ricksterto said,
The kernel is linux based but with many many sun mods - the reason that this went open-sourced. Unfortunately for Sun, this really hasn't caught on leaving the product outdated.

Just take a look at the packages installed - many are borrowed from the linux world.

I know that this is supposed to be targeted at servers, but poor performance on base operations is not acceptable.

The kernel is not linux based nor unix based, it is taken from Solaris. Solaris itself is UNIXv3 certified and thus UNIX (as are IBM's AIX and Apple's MacOS X Leopard).

The software is open source software and can be used for different operating systems (Linux, MacOS X, Solaris/OpenSolaris, Windows, etc.). I also don't see what the problem is with using open source software on a (open source) system (mind you, OpenSolaris is somewhat the open source version of Solaris: it's like StarOffice-OpenOffice.org).

OpenSolaris is not targeted at servers: you don't use GNOME on a server and you don't partner with Toshiba to bring out 2 notebooks with OpenSolaris if you did. Like Linux it's targeted at both servers and desktops (hence the partnership with Toshiba and the fact Sun sells some servers preinstalled with OpenSolaris).

Next time do your homework properly, this is just ridiculous :X
#9.7 dyn on 03 Jun 2009 - 14:25
ricksterto said,
PS: you can install many deb packages without rebuilding - what does that say?

Absolutely nothing whatsoever! There are more systems using the deb package system or the red hat package system. I can install Linux specific stuff on FreeBSD but that doesn't turn FreeBSD into Linux. Same goes for any other operating system. That .deb system is just a way of packaging the software, you could do it in a .zip if you prefer that. A package system does not define if the OS is Linux, UNIX or something else.

(btw: I've got the not being able to edit issue as well).
#10 TRC on 02 Jun 2009 - 21:38
I gave the live CD a try and it "blazed forth" at a headache inducing 50Hz on my GeForce 6600. I could choose other resolutions but they all ran at really bizarre refresh rates, the highest being 57Hz. Wasn't exactly a great first impression. Solaris is a really great server and professional UNIX OS but for the home user it appears to be miles behind the competition.
(4 replies) #11 dimithrak on 02 Jun 2009 - 23:54
Doesnt that look like ubuntu? Sorry if i sound ignorant here
#11.1 VIVIsectVI on 03 Jun 2009 - 00:40
dimithrak said,
Doesnt that look like ubuntu? Sorry if i sound ignorant here


It looks like Gnome. Ubuntu, by default, uses Gnome. So, any *nix environment that is using Gnome, will look similar to Ubuntu. I guess.
With the exception of the crap brown default look that ubuntu has.
#11.2 Airlink on 03 Jun 2009 - 00:40
That's what I said, a Linux guy went all NERD RAGE! on me and bashed me with a GNOME.
#11.3 TRC on 03 Jun 2009 - 01:27
I didn't really see any rage, he just pointed out that any OS using Gnome is obviously going to look similar.
#11.4 vetmarkjensen on 03 Jun 2009 - 11:19
TRC said,
I didn't really see any rage, he just pointed out that any OS using Gnome is obviously going to look similar.

Shhh... Don't dispute the creation of drama where there was none.
(2 replies) #12 Nashy on 03 Jun 2009 - 03:27
I'm kind of a n00b with this. Anyone point me in the direction of the difference between this and say my Ubuntu install?
#12.1 Dave_ek on 03 Jun 2009 - 11:38
Nashy said,
I'm kind of a n00b with this. Anyone point me in the direction of the difference between this and say my Ubuntu install?


Also being a n00b with these linux Distros... i have tried both Ubuntu and Fedora - they are pretty similar but Ubuntu seems to have the best overall support for home users and only one I could *easily..* get my Nvidia card (285 GTX) to work on... so stick with what you have =)
#12.2 dyn on 03 Jun 2009 - 14:29
Nashy said,
I'm kind of a n00b with this. Anyone point me in the direction of the difference between this and say my Ubuntu install?

In short: It's like the difference between Windows and your Ubuntu install (aka a completely different system)

A bit longer: it's not really completely different from Ubuntu since Linux and UNIX share a lot of similarities. In this case it would mean that Ubuntu is more suited for n00bs than OpenSolaris. The LiveCD is quite easy to use though and as a GNOME user you'll be able to find stuff. Ubuntu just has more software in it's repositories.
#13 tomfeinberg on 30 Oct 2009 - 09:45
I gave the live CD a try and it "blazed forth" at a headache inducing 50Hz on my GeForce 6600. I could choose other resolutions but they all ran at really bizarre refresh rates, the highest being 57Hz. Wasn't exactly a great first impression. Solaris is a really great server and professional UNIX OS but for the home user it appears to be miles behind the competition.
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