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AMD shows off world's first DirectX 11 GPU

Andrew Lyle   on 03 June 2009 - 23:20 · 56 comments & 11754 views

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AMD demonstrated the world's first DirectX11 GPU today in front of a live audience, stating that AMD will be the first to release a graphics card with a 40nm DirectX11-friendly GPU.

AMD is fully committed to bringing DirectX11 to the market first, something they have stated in a press release, without an official release date. DirectX11 promises to bring smoother graphics, faster Windows 7 experience - meaning Windows 7 will run faster - higher quality games and better performance than anything previously released.

AMD and TSMC gave some demonstrations of the new processing power of the 40nm DirectX11 GPU, in a video with improved detail in character models through tessellation.


That's not all, the game developers also discussed how a few developers will be taking advantage of DirectX11, allowing developers to better use the hardware through the API:





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(2 replies) #1 jonhapimp on 04 Jun 2009 - 01:29
at least have directx 10 be fully optimized in games first
#1.1 +Xerxes on 04 Jun 2009 - 04:47
It never will be, Dx10 is considered little more then a joke really. However, with the massive interest in Win7, there is going to be a huge market for Dx11 and I think game developers will jump on the Dx11 bandwagon much faster then they did on the Dx10 one. Well that is my 2 cents, take witha grain of salt.

#1.2 ZeroHour on 05 Jun 2009 - 08:55
Xerxes said,
It never will be, Dx10 is considered little more then a joke really. However, with the massive interest in Win7, there is going to be a huge market for Dx11 and I think game developers will jump on the Dx11 bandwagon much faster then they did on the Dx10 one. Well that is my 2 cents, take witha grain of salt.

That and the fact vista is getting DX11 as well.
(4 replies) #2 Pixil Eyes on 04 Jun 2009 - 01:33
I'll agree Jon. This really kills computer gamers. Its too expensive to keep up any more.



Last edited by Pixil Eyes on 04 Jun 2009 - 01:39
#2.1 brent3000 on 04 Jun 2009 - 01:44
Lucky u edited that lol i was about to say...

I dont think it kills games as not ALL games "need" this to run...

For the pro users it is good cuz some ppl do like to ensure they can play the MAX settings on ALL games and get 50+ FPS on EVEry game in every situation...

I dont have a high end GC but i still play PC games alot... I may not be able to get 100% quality but i still play PC games and enjoy every bit of it,... Come windows 7 will come my next major hardware upgrade.
#2.2 The_Decryptor on 04 Jun 2009 - 02:17
It's only too expensive if you keep buying every graphics card that comes out.

I went from a DX9 card to a DX10 card, next upgrade cycle DX11 cards will be cheap.
#2.3 +Xerxes on 04 Jun 2009 - 04:52
The_Decryptor said,
It's only too expensive if you keep buying every graphics card that comes out.

I went from a DX9 card to a DX10 card, next upgrade cycle DX11 cards will be cheap.

Exactly! plus there is no real point getting a Dx11 card right away anyway (unless your building a new rig, then it's different) and by the time you wait a bit and the prices drop, more Dx11 games will be out so you'll have more choice, win win really.
#2.4 LaP on 04 Jun 2009 - 13:41
I still use a 8800 GTX bought ages ago.

It can run all games at least at mid setting. Can play Crysis fine and even if i need to compromise a little bit it still looks far better on my 8800 GTX than any game i played on my 360.
#3 Pixil Eyes on 04 Jun 2009 - 01:50
Yeah I thought about that one haha.

#4 WesParmalee on 04 Jun 2009 - 01:52
Can't wait to start seeing DX11 games
(1 reply) #5 helios01 on 04 Jun 2009 - 01:53
Good to see technology moving forward despite economic troubles.
#5.1 Lord Ba'al on 04 Jun 2009 - 01:56
Indeed. Good job there, Amd
(6 replies) #6 ChrisJ1968 on 04 Jun 2009 - 02:00
I'm quite disturbed. DX11? DX10 is to DX 11 as is Vista is to Win7..
#6.1 roblife on 04 Jun 2009 - 02:53
ChrisJ1968 said,
I'm quite disturbed. DX11? DX10 is to DX 11 as is Vista is to Win7..


So when is direct X 12 coming out?
#6.2 brent3000 on 04 Jun 2009 - 03:48
DX11? DX10 is to DX 11 as is Vista is to Win7..

what? better?
#6.3 Dead_Monkey on 04 Jun 2009 - 13:14
brent3000 said,
what? better?
I assume he means not badly conceived and stillborn.

DX10 was a half-assed first attempt to bring some of the 360's technologies to the PC. This time it will actually work. I'll still play games on my 360 though, I expect.
#6.4 LaP on 04 Jun 2009 - 13:44
Dead_Monkey said,
I assume he means not badly conceived and stillborn.

DX10 was a half-assed first attempt to bring some of the 360's technologies to the PC. This time it will actually work. I'll still play games on my 360 though, I expect.


Which technologies ?

I own a PC and a 360 and games look better on my PC even if i own a 8800 GTX only which is an oudated card. I played Oblivion on my PC cause i just could not stand the gfx on the 360 specially the draw distance which was significantly lower than Oblivion on my PC.
#6.5 skynetXrules on 04 Jun 2009 - 19:18
Dead_Monkey said,
I assume he means not badly conceived and stillborn.

DX10 was a half-assed first attempt to bring some of the 360's technologies to the PC. This time it will actually work. I'll still play games on my 360 though, I expect.


it is the other way around !
#6.6 roblife on 04 Jun 2009 - 19:36
roblife said,
So when is direct X 12 coming out?


Also direct x 1200 coming out in 30 years. Its going to calculate every molecule and its quantum physics motion so it going to be the closes you can come to real objects. kidding.

quote " I need to constantly make me self better at everything no mater the cost. " Irish drunk.
(2 replies) #7 nekkidtruth on 04 Jun 2009 - 02:03
I find it interesting that they believe they will be first to release. What exactly makes them so sure of this? Unless there is some outstanding evidence that nVidia isn't working on, and or hasn't been working on a DX11 device, I don't see how they can KNOW they'll be first. I'm sure someone will enlighten me as to how they know this...
#7.1 thartist on 04 Jun 2009 - 02:25
you build up hype that you'll be the first and you have the product almost ready (hopefully with something to back that up), and wait to see if the competition has anything to say, if they don't, then you're probably well routed.

if i'm not wrong, nvidia hasn't said a word other than they are working on GT300... which doesn't mean DX11 support. they are barely catching up to support DX10.1 these days...

that's mostly the way it mostly works.

edit: here AMD has at least proven something. it's a "technical stuff and speculation" read, but that's what can be found. http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3573

Last edited by thartist on 04 Jun 2009 - 02:45
#7.2 roblife on 04 Jun 2009 - 02:52
nekkidtruth said,
I find it interesting that they believe they will be first to release. What exactly makes them so sure of this? Unless there is some outstanding evidence that nVidia isn't working on, and or hasn't been working on a DX11 device, I don't see how they can KNOW they'll be first. I'm sure someone will enlighten me as to how they know this...

They kidnap nvidia lead scientist. Mohahaha. Kidding. Is and gpus made in canada? Thats interesting the canadians compete with canadians. What fair competition.
#8 +AltecXP on 04 Jun 2009 - 02:19
maybe MS knows who is working with what in regards to DX11, and ATi was the first to get the developer kit for it
(2 replies) #9 treemonster on 04 Jun 2009 - 02:24
so few games take advantage of dx10... why bother with dx11?
#9.1 Digix on 04 Jun 2009 - 03:34
treemonster said,
so few games take advantage of dx10... why bother with dx11?


Because that's why DX11 is being made to step over the shallow impact DX10 had, just like Windows 7 to vista.
#9.2 ChrisJ1968 on 04 Jun 2009 - 19:08
I believe that MS was trying to "implement" DX10 to be the "ONE" who brought a groundbreaking technology to market. it flopped. weren't they supposed to put emulation for those who had DX9 cards still?

what a stinking mess.*BARF!*
(1 reply) #10 thartist on 04 Jun 2009 - 02:28
So what exactly does this do for games? tesselation as shown seem to be (for me) a capability to divide polygons adding more, which seems intelligent but... how is this implemented in games?
#10.1 JonathanMarston on 04 Jun 2009 - 02:38
It's good for games because all the vertices and triangles don't have to be sent across the slow(er) bus between the CPU and GPU - just the control points necessary to generate the triangles. Plus, using a system like this would make it possible to generate the right number of triangles for the best balance of quality/performance at runtime, instead of needing to create different LoD versions of models - saving development time, storage space, and RAM.
#11 lord_xenos on 04 Jun 2009 - 02:42
Many people ask "Why push forward so hard AMD, why?" Their history shows that they are a company that always wants to be first with truely high quality products. They use so much resources to produce these products but is the "we were first" mentality actually worth it?

Their first dual-cores were monolithic ones, contrary to Intel's "welded together cores". They always want to be the ones to say they were first. This is good in some ways - it pushes the envelope and competition and the results that follow. This also hurts the company financially, I believe. To make the monolithic processors, they had to create entirely new assembly lines, where as Intel just needed to use their existing ones and weld together the cores.

The benefits of AMD's practices aren't always in their best financial intrest, hence some of the rough downturns they've had.
#12 +warwagon on 04 Jun 2009 - 03:05
I think Directx 10 was to 9 what vista was to XP. I think Direct X 11 is what Windows 7 is compared to Vista.
(1 reply) #13 Intelman on 04 Jun 2009 - 03:51
We need more PC games designed for PCs. Console ports will probably stick with DX 9. I wish DX 10.1 were more adopted.

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/14034/1/
#13.1 Tommy DW on 04 Jun 2009 - 09:07
Intelman said,
We need more PC games designed for PCs. Console ports will probably stick with DX 9. I wish DX 10.1 were more adopted.

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/14034/1/



Console ports are killing gaming for me to be honest.
I'm sick to the back teeth of console ports. Take burnout paradise city. I spent half an hour trying to work out the bloody controls for that. I got so ****ed off..
#14 Recon415 on 04 Jun 2009 - 04:15
1UP for AMD

Hopefully buying ATI will provide them with the funds to compete with intel.
#15 Morisato on 04 Jun 2009 - 07:56
I remember the days when they were limited to certain amount of wires. When that guy moved the bar all the or near all the way to the right, thats where really imaging comes into play when making perfect models. Looks like it still yet isn't powerful enough to suppose Full wiring as I saw stuttering when he was sliding it to the right.
(1 reply) #16 Tommy DW on 04 Jun 2009 - 09:03
Well AMD might make the worlds worst CPU's but their graphics cards are superb and half the price of the equivilent that nvidia can muster up.

Now to the DX11. We won't see games using DX 11 for another year. Most games will be using DX10.1 and DX11 as beta graphics.

I mean don't get top excited, most games are still using DX9.0 for christ sakes guys.

And to be honest, nothing in those vidos impressed. The fist one is of a head that had the polygon devision subbed by 20. OH wow!! not really. not much detail at all for me.

Stick with what you have untill at least half the cards out are DX11 fully compatible.

I just wish Microsoft would stick with a version and build upon that because this must be costing them millions.
#16.1 FoxieFoxie on 04 Jun 2009 - 09:39
Tommy DW said,
Well AMD might make the worlds worst CPU's but their graphics cards are superb and half the price of the equivilent that nvidia can muster up.

Now to the DX11. We won't see games using DX 11 for another year. Most games will be using DX10.1 and DX11 as beta graphics.

I mean don't get top excited, most games are still using DX9.0 for christ sakes guys.

And to be honest, nothing in those vidos impressed. The fist one is of a head that had the polygon devision subbed by 20. OH wow!! not really. not much detail at all for me.

Stick with what you have untill at least half the cards out are DX11 fully compatible.

I just wish Microsoft would stick with a version and build upon that because this must be costing them millions.


http://www.pcworld.com/article/166008/amd_..._this_year.html
#17 FoxieFoxie on 04 Jun 2009 - 09:28
Any pricing info? 250 or 500 USD? Any guesses?

I'll buy new rig when SC2 comes out, hope this one is ready by then
(7 replies) #18 nonick on 04 Jun 2009 - 09:57
consoles suck! they must vanish from this planet.

PC for life!
#18.1 boogerjones on 04 Jun 2009 - 10:05
Unless they're developing a MMORPG, the only thing that game developers see in the PC platform is piracy. I think the PC has a limited future in gaming. And all the ****ty ports lately simply prove my point: GTA IV, Saint's Row 2 (awful on the PC).
#18.2 roblife on 04 Jun 2009 - 19:42
nonick said,
consoles suck! they must vanish from this planet.

PC for life!


Actually consoles are becoming more pc like they started having cd dvd roms and they went on the network. People started to hack them. And they got cameras now and some even come with keyboards and you can brows the web. What more you want from them. They are trying everything to win you over. I wish though that pcs would get such graphics and computing power like the ps3. Like an 80 core intel cpu and a 100 core gpu by and and crazy multi dimensional code that is just error free and went back in time to test it so it can be released to me like now. Cuz I want it.
#18.3 SIE on 04 Jun 2009 - 21:23
Are you on crack? PC's are allot more powerful than PS3's, especially on the graphics front.
#18.4 RAID 0 on 04 Jun 2009 - 22:59
SIE said,
Are you on crack? PC's are allot more powerful than PS3's, especially on the graphics front.


Not exactly. The CELL processor is WAY more powerful than even the best i7. Yeah, PCs do have much better GPUs and some (me) would argue that's what counts.
#18.5 ShellShock on 04 Jun 2009 - 23:21
RAID 0 said,
The CELL processor is WAY more powerful than even the best i7. Yeah, PCs do have much better GPUs and some (me) would argue that's what counts.


best be trolling.
#18.6 kagaku on 05 Jun 2009 - 04:05
RAID 0 said,
Not exactly. The CELL processor is WAY more powerful than even the best i7. Yeah, PCs do have much better GPUs and some (me) would argue that's what counts.


-obligatory car analogy-

A sports car compared to a motorcycle. Sure, the motorcycle might be faster; it's leaner and lighter, much smaller and cuts through the air better. But it's not general purpose. You can't ride a motorcycle through the snow during winter time. Technically you could, but it's much slower than driving a car.

An Intel I7 is a great processor. It does nearly everything, and it does it all fast. Sure the Cell can crunch numbers and crank out more Folding@Home work units than 3 or 4 I7 processors put together; but it sucks at doing 80% of the other work a typical desktop computer has to offer.

A better comparison would be between the I7 and the PS3's PowerPC based PPE since that's more of a general purpose processor. The SPE (the Cell-based processing units in the PS3) are more like DSPs (or even GPUs), they're really great - amazing even- at what they do, but what they can do is pretty limited in some ways.
#18.7 gingerbill on 05 Jun 2009 - 15:46
RAID 0 said,
Not exactly. The CELL processor is WAY more powerful than even the best i7. Yeah, PCs do have much better GPUs and some (me) would argue that's what counts.


sorry i know its cruel but i had to laugh at this statement .
#19 boogerjones on 04 Jun 2009 - 10:09
DX10 was a joke. Just look at all the revolution it brought to the gaming world...
#20 Anaron on 04 Jun 2009 - 13:07
I think DX11 will be more successful than DX10. Firstly, it'll be available on Windows 7 as well as Windows Vista. Secondly, some DX11 features will be supported on DX10 hardware so upgrading your video card isn't a must. Thirdly, and finally, the features that DX11 brings will improve image quality and performance across the board. I certainly can't wait for AMD's first DX11 video cards to hit the market.
#21 wulfgar31 on 04 Jun 2009 - 14:51
Directx 11 hmm... This is what i am seeing from the video, the developers described it well but the demonstration video was well lacking in the detail/animation department. But even one of the developers could not talk to us with out a story board, you could easily see him sitting back in his chair and his eyes moving from left to right and hesitating while talking. I am more convinced reading about it than i am the videos atm. Thank you.
#22 starburst1980 on 04 Jun 2009 - 17:53
AMD better be the first in DX11...

Intel is just taking a crap on them in the CPU dept.
#23 Gabe3 on 04 Jun 2009 - 18:08
wow, that video was not scripted.
#24 jstillion on 04 Jun 2009 - 18:24
Here what happens, Ati is the first to support revisions to Direct X. Nvidia lags behind.
And since Nvidia lags behind, developers tend to stick with the older Dx revision or skip minor revisions all together.

The nice thing is, the same function present in Dx 10 that's in Dx 11 will still be run via hardware accelerated as if it was made for dx11.
#25 Intermedia on 04 Jun 2009 - 22:30
wow. how much will it cost ?
(1 reply) #26 sonyman on 05 Jun 2009 - 03:25
DX10 is not a joke at all, on paper. The problem is that it was a Windows Vista exclusive, and with many gamers still using Windows XP, developers never fully utilized it. DirectX 11 is another chance to renovate D3D, this time with broader market penetration.
#26.1 FoxieFoxie on 05 Jun 2009 - 05:21
sonyman said,
DX10 is not a joke at all, on paper. The problem is that it was a Windows Vista exclusive, and with many gamers still using Windows XP, developers never fully utilized it. DirectX 11 is another chance to renovate D3D, this time with broader market penetration.


The fact is that most popular games will or already use dx10,: Devil may cry 4, starcraft 2, bla bla
#27 B0GiE on 05 Jun 2009 - 03:53
DX10 was over-hyped. I'm still on DX9 and happy as a pig in poo! DX11 in my mind is all hot air to get u to upgrade again!
#28 gingerbill on 05 Jun 2009 - 15:43
lets hope DX11 is a hell off alot better than DX10 , what a load of hype and nonsense that was , i stuck with DX9 .

I know me and all my friends have bought xbox's or PS3's , its just too silly now with upgrades . But mainly the fact that you can buy a game and even with a fast PC it can run like **** . Never thought i would see the day i purchased more game son console than PC .

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