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Well, at least Apple is doing well...

Elliot Harrison   on 03 June 2009 - 20:16 · 42 comments & 5256 views

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It is of little refutation that economists would describe the world's financial state (in general) as a 'worldwide recession' as a result companies are going bust here, there and everywhere as the credit crunch tests companies to their absolute limits, in essence sorting the wheat from the chaff. Perhaps some of the most noticeable changes during a recession can be noticed on the 'High St'. I speak for the UK alone when I say that our High Streets have experienced some difficult losses in the recent past.

Refreshing to appreciate, in light of the economic downturn, are the companies that are doing well and reports on various business related websites are reporting good things for Apple's basement, flagship store on Fifth Avenue, New York. News on the 'New York Post's website' is covering the race between businesses for a vacant lot on the prime retail strip. However, it is Apple's glass cubed store which is stealing the spotlight a little, reports indicate that the store is taking around $440 million per annum, impressive figures compared to 'Apple's outposts' at Prince and Green streets which take around $100 million per year.

This news, despite the possibility of changes regarding Apple's takings this year, really shows the pulling power Apple has as an international business and could be money invested into some more exciting projects in the future.

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(21 replies) #1 jonhapimp on 03 Jun 2009 - 21:19
Everybody needs music
#1.1 Michael Jacob on 03 Jun 2009 - 21:26
but not everyone needs iPod.
i wonder who will beat apple when it comes to ipods...
#1.2 andrewbares on 03 Jun 2009 - 21:37
The Zune! It already easily beats the iPod Classic, hands down.
#1.3 +Chicane-UK on 03 Jun 2009 - 21:39
andrewbares said,
The Zune! It already easily beats the iPod Classic, hands down.


Except in actually selling units. Which is, really, all that matters.
#1.4 VIVIsectVI on 03 Jun 2009 - 22:06
Chicane-UK said,
Except in actually selling units. Which is, really, all that matters.


Which is the logic as to why McDonalds is the best restaurant on the planet...

...oh, wait...
#1.5 Edrick Smith on 03 Jun 2009 - 22:09
andrewbares said,
The Zune! It already easily beats the iPod Classic, hands down.


Ehmm which is why there's the iPod Touch which guess what? Beats out the Zune :-D
#1.6 andrewbares on 03 Jun 2009 - 22:09
VIVIsectVI said,
Which is the logic as to why McDonalds is the best restaurant on the planet...

...oh, wait...


Lol, brilliant. and the ZuneHD should make up for any lost ground, especially if they have Xbox integration.

#1.7 hotdog963al on 03 Jun 2009 - 22:12
I've literally NEVER seen a Zune, ever!! Can you even get them in the UK? LOL
#1.8 Sam Symons on 03 Jun 2009 - 22:15
hotdog963al said,
I've literally NEVER seen a Zune, ever!! Can you even get them in the UK? LOL

I never have, either. I don't think you can get them in the UK, though I'm not sure.
#1.9 Frank Fontaine on 03 Jun 2009 - 22:17
The Flash zunes are far superior to the iPod nano, and the normal zunes are also far superior to the iPod classic. I expect the same from the ZuneHD vs the iPod Touch. I also expect sales to take right off once they hit internationally
#1.10 PaulCabby on 03 Jun 2009 - 22:55
Sam Symons said,
I never have, either. I don't think you can get them in the UK, though I'm not sure.


Nope, unless you import them
#1.11 Calum on 03 Jun 2009 - 23:24
andrewbares said,
The Zune! It already easily beats the iPod Classic, hands down.

You may be on about the current Zune vs. the iPod classic, but as somebody else pointed out, the Zune HD isn't there to compete with the iPod classic. The current Zune is, but not the Zune HD. The Zune HD will be going head-to-head with the iPod touch and that's a whole new ballgame. The iPod touch is bound to win at the moment as the Zune HD has no application store announced yet - that's the main reason why the Zune HD cannot and will not beat the iPod touch. I can guarentee it (until the Zune HD allows us to install different applications from an application store, of course).
#1.12 jonhapimp on 04 Jun 2009 - 00:10
ipod is the most well known that's why there doing great, i have a zune which is great i never said the ipod is the best. yes just like mcdonalds
#1.13 Rev. on 04 Jun 2009 - 00:25
Having used a Zune (30, 4, 80) since it came out I can easily say iPods are the better way to go. Even with the new ZuneHD coming out I can't see myself ever returning to that horrible experience. Btw, to throw this in there; I hadn't used an iPod until after I sold my Zune 80, in fact I despised iPods back when I was a Zune guy.

Anyways though, whenever there is Mac there are random discussions about Windows; whenever there is iPod there is zune and w.e PMPs exist o.O.

#1.14 andrewbares on 04 Jun 2009 - 00:58
Rev. said,
Having used a Zune (30, 4, 80) since it came out I can easily say iPods are the better way to go. Even with the new ZuneHD coming out I can't see myself ever returning to that horrible experience. Btw, to throw this in there; I hadn't used an iPod until after I sold my Zune 80, in fact I despised iPods back when I was a Zune guy.

Anyways though, whenever there is Mac there are random discussions about Windows; whenever there is iPod there is zune and w.e PMPs exist o.O.



Ok, give me one reason why iPods are better.
#1.15 roadwarrior on 04 Jun 2009 - 03:21
andrewbares said,
Ok, give me one reason why iPods are better.


Greater variety of third-party support for add-ons and docking the player to home entertainment devices. I'd say that's a pretty major advantage.
#1.16 DanielZ on 04 Jun 2009 - 03:46
The Zune's UI is quite ugly. I absolutely hate the font they use in the Zune OS. The Zunes themselves are ugly bricks as well. Not to mention Zunes are completely incompatible with Macs.
#1.17 +Chicane-UK on 04 Jun 2009 - 06:17
VIVIsectVI said,
Which is the logic as to why McDonalds is the best restaurant on the planet...

...oh, wait...


Eh? In purely business terms (which, again, is all that matters), it is. It's one of the most ubiquitous and well known restaurants in the world. It's proven itself to be 'recession' proof in that people are still flocking there in their droves. And they have a hugely successful and consistent clone that they can produce every time they open a restaurant. McDonalds simply rakes in the cash. Therefore it is the best restaurant in the world. Maybe not because of the quality of the food it shifts, but because of how much of it is shifted, and the profit it makes in doing so.

If Microsoft could get away with selling crap at huge profits, they would happily do so - surely business logic would never be to put in any more effort / expense into something than you have to? But they have to at LEAST make their product better than the iPod to stand a chance in the portable music player market.

You shot yourself in the foot with your argument frankly. I don't agree agree with it either - I still fail to see how folks can get upset at Apple's dominance in the Digital Music Player market with a supposedly inferior product, when Microsoft dominate the OS space with an arguably inferior product. It's horses for courses.
#1.18 duritz on 04 Jun 2009 - 12:04
hotdog963al said,
I've literally NEVER seen a Zune, ever!! Can you even get them in the UK? LOL


I've never seen a zune and i live in the states lol
#1.19 vetmarkjensen on 04 Jun 2009 - 12:06
Chicane-UK said,
...
You shot yourself in the foot with your argument frankly. I don't agree agree with it either - I still fail to see how folks can get upset at Apple's dominance in the Digital Music Player market with a supposedly inferior product, when Microsoft dominate the OS space with an arguably inferior product. It's horses for courses.

I think it was just a silly comparison to show that "best selling" doesn't necessarily mean "best product".

Don't over-analyze it.
#1.20 shakey_snake on 04 Jun 2009 - 15:32
Chicane-UK said,
VIVIsectVI said,
Which is the logic as to why McDonalds is the best restaurant on the planet...

...oh, wait...


Eh? In purely business terms (which, again, is all that matters), it is.
You've proven your point: Windows Vista is clearly a superior product to OSX in every way that matters.
#1.21 +Chicane-UK on 04 Jun 2009 - 16:21
You're absolutely right. The bottom line is that Microsoft sells a lot more Vista than Apple does OSX. Again, purely in business terms (for these companies which are, you know, businesses) that's all that matters.

Not that I LIKE Vista - but figures are figures
#2 +Chicane-UK on 03 Jun 2009 - 21:38
Good stuff Apple - keep it up.
(3 replies) #3 satanist on 03 Jun 2009 - 22:08
Keep it coming apple!!Can't wait for WWDC...
#3.1 hotdog963al on 03 Jun 2009 - 22:13
+1 to this! Shame Stevey-J won't be presenting though
#3.2 +warwagon on 03 Jun 2009 - 23:23
hotdog963al said,
+1 to this! Shame Stevey-J won't be presenting though


That's what you think :shiftyninja:
#3.3 Raa on 04 Jun 2009 - 00:24
Got a source for that?
(4 replies) #4 Aahz on 03 Jun 2009 - 22:28
It's easy to make money when you charge 2-3x more than your hardware is worth and your fanbase is forever ready to replace said hardware with your next equally overpriced model.
#4.1 xfodder on 04 Jun 2009 - 00:16
so pc users dont upgrade their components every time a new cpu comes out or a new graphics card? or upgrade to the super-high-fantastical-mega-awesome ultimate edition of windows? i have had my mac for 4 years and it has lasted really well ... you have money wasters on both sides of the coin, pc or mac makes no difference
#4.2 Raa on 04 Jun 2009 - 00:25
No, the average PC user does NOT.
#4.3 Rev. on 04 Jun 2009 - 00:30
Raa said,
No, the average PC user does NOT.


And what I would consider the average Apple product owner doesn't either. Alot of my friends and there friends & family still have the old iPods, iMac, Tiger, Macbooks, etc. and don't see a real need to upgrade just because Apple comes out with something new.

In reality it's the same people that MUST have the latest sickest fkn gfx card on the market and the newest best CPU etc. on the market as with the Apple people who MUST have the newest, sickest, meanest Apple computer/iPod/w.e on the market.


**Generally speaking**

ppl take the Apple vs. Microsoft/Everyone Else thing to seriously.
#4.4 andrewbares on 04 Jun 2009 - 00:59
Apple makes people pay for software updates on the iTouch! Zunes have gotten updates for free for about three years. So yes, Apple does overcharge for updates, and it's known that Apple costs more.
(5 replies) #5 cycro on 04 Jun 2009 - 00:28
If it's so easy, everyone else would do the same. Oh, wait..... Microsoft charges 2-3x more than their software is worth and their fan base user base is forever ready to replace said software with their next equally overpriced model version. Not to mention they're a monopoly.
#5.1 jonhapimp on 04 Jun 2009 - 00:55
cycro said,
If it's so easy, everyone else would do the same. Oh, wait..... Microsoft charges 2-3x more than their software is worth and their fan base user base is forever ready to replace said software with their next equally overpriced model version. Not to mention they're a monopoly.

okay sure crazy fanboy
#5.2 andrewbares on 04 Jun 2009 - 01:00
I haven't ever overpaid for Microsoft software, so idk what you're talking about. Check your facts.
#5.3 VIVIsectVI on 04 Jun 2009 - 01:02
cycro said,
If it's so easy, everyone else would do the same. Oh, wait..... Microsoft charges 2-3x more than their software is worth and their fan base user base is forever ready to replace said software with their next equally overpriced model version. Not to mention they're a monopoly.


Right, because paying $130 for a service pack every year or so makes so much more sense.
#5.4 .Reo on 04 Jun 2009 - 01:52
VIVIsectVI said,
Right, because paying $130 for a service pack every year or so makes so much more sense.

Same can be said for Windows 7.
#5.5 VIVIsectVI on 04 Jun 2009 - 01:55
.Reo said,
Same can be said for Windows 7.


Obviously you've never used it. There's more to it than new UI colors and bouncy icons. Down side is that 7 won't come with a complimentary black turtleneck that smells of formaldehyde...
(3 replies) #6 +Chicane-UK on 04 Jun 2009 - 06:28
My GOD. Why are the opinions of some members on this forum so one sided - it's pathetic and is surely driving away genuinely constructive and interesting or well reasoned comments from people who actually KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

andrewbares rants on about Apple overcharging people on comment 4.4 - and when someone else makes an equally valid point about Microsoft pricing on comment 5.0, andrewbares dismissively shoots him down as a fanboy. For gods sake - are Microsoft PAYING you people to defend them or something? At least make your point and explain why you feel that the commenter is wrong - dismissing someone as a "fanboy" with absolutely no effort to argue why the person you're replying to is wrong makes you look even more of a fanboy!!

Right, because paying $130 for a service pack every year or so makes so much more sense.


Obviously you've never used it. There's more to it than new UI colors and bouncy icons. Down side is that 7 won't come with a complimentary black turtleneck that smells of formaldehyde...


Same again. So Windows 7 is a revolution, and every increment of OSX is just a service pack is it? And a pointless dismissive jibe about Steve Jobs as well - tell us, what radical innovations in the technology space have YOU contributed to lately? Steve Jobs doesn't have to answer to anyone, just like Bill Gates - they've made our industry what it is. Seriously - what woodwork did you guys crawl out of.

If a mod deletes my comment as some kind of personal attack, please PM me to let me know - I understand why you've done it. But just consider me an old school Neowin member who's becoming increasingly depressed at just how pants things are going thanks to some of the clueless kids who've signed up over the years.
#6.1 epple on 04 Jun 2009 - 08:03
Comments on Apple "news" should be disabled since we all know the outcome.

The disgusting smugness is everywhere on both sides.
#6.2 REM2000 on 04 Jun 2009 - 09:09
Chicane-UK said,
My GOD. Why are the opinions of some members on this forum so one sided - it's pathetic and is surely driving away genuinely constructive and interesting or well reasoned comments from people who actually KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

andrewbares rants on about Apple overcharging people on comment 4.4 - and when someone else makes an equally valid point about Microsoft pricing on comment 5.0, andrewbares dismissively shoots him down as a fanboy. For gods sake - are Microsoft PAYING you people to defend them or something? At least make your point and explain why you feel that the commenter is wrong - dismissing someone as a "fanboy" with absolutely no effort to argue why the person you're replying to is wrong makes you look even more of a fanboy!!





Same again. So Windows 7 is a revolution, and every increment of OSX is just a service pack is it? And a pointless dismissive jibe about Steve Jobs as well - tell us, what radical innovations in the technology space have YOU contributed to lately? Steve Jobs doesn't have to answer to anyone, just like Bill Gates - they've made our industry what it is. Seriously - what woodwork did you guys crawl out of.

If a mod deletes my comment as some kind of personal attack, please PM me to let me know - I understand why you've done it. But just consider me an old school Neowin member who's becoming increasingly depressed at just how pants things are going thanks to some of the clueless kids who've signed up over the years.



I agree Neowin used to be a lot better with balance between all three OS's, this year however every topic regarding another OS is turned into the same old cliche. It's really putting me off the news part of the site.
#6.3 roadwarrior on 04 Jun 2009 - 17:40
REM2000 said,
I agree Neowin used to be a lot better with balance between all three OS's, this year however every topic regarding another OS is turned into the same old cliche. It's really putting me off the news part of the site.


Part of the problem is that the mods would rather spend their time punishing users who point out trolls here than acutally punishing the trolls. There's a certain member here that regularly trolls any and every Apple related news item, but the mods just let him go on being a pain in the butt. But if someone actually calls him out for trolling, they get a warning!

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