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China upgrades The Great Firewall, requires new software

Elliot Harrison   on 08 June 2009 - 20:52 · 48 comments & 7092 views

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While most of you are still reeling from excitement from Apple's releases at their WWDC today, there are some people who may find it a little more restrictive to get the most out of their computers in the future.

In a seemingly superlative effort to construct: "a green, healthy, and harmonious Internet environment, and preventing harmful information on the Internet from influencing and poisoning young people." The Chinese government have plans to impose further restrictions on the way its people use their computers by passing legislation which will require that all personal computers sold within the country, as of July 1, be shipped with software blocking access to certain websites. This move could well give the Chinese Government unprecedented control over how its people use the internet.

This news posted on the Wall Street Journal's website, discusses the issues involved with passing legislation and restricting people in this manner.

The primary target for the software will be pornography says the main developer of the software, a company which has ties to the Chinese security and military ministry.

According to the original article, Susan Stevenson a spokeswoman for the US embassy in Beijing says, that the embassy are looking into this and assessing the restrictive power of the software. "We would view any attempt to restrict the free flow of information with great concern and as incompatible with China's aspirations to build a modern, information-based economy and society."

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#1 andrewbares on 08 Jun 2009 - 21:31
Removed

Last edited by shockz on 08 Jun 2009 - 23:25
(4 replies) #2 cabron on 08 Jun 2009 - 21:56
Why blocking pornography will restrict the free flow of information? I don't think pornography is important information to be honest.
#2.1 daftperception on 08 Jun 2009 - 22:22
cabron said,
Why blocking pornography will restrict the free flow of information? I don't think pornography is important information to be honest.

If you really believe they are only going to filter porn you very naive. That is just the cover story. Also note the fact that porn is only their primary target not their only target.
#2.2 ilike2burnthing on 08 Jun 2009 - 22:59
daftperception said,
If you really believe they are only going to filter porn you very naive. That is just the cover story. Also note the fact that porn is only their primary target not their only target.

True, they block youtube, foreign news sites, any blog or forum that may be 'anti-China', in other words pro-human rights, and pretty much anything that they don't like, they censor the crap out of.
#2.3 Shiranui on 09 Jun 2009 - 00:35
cabron said,
Why blocking pornography will restrict the free flow of information? I don't think pornography is important information to be honest.


Blocking pr0n prevents the free flow of cu.... oh, nevermind.
#2.4 +Chipshop on 09 Jun 2009 - 09:19
:o
(2 replies) #3 Shunik Jan on 08 Jun 2009 - 22:07
Simply reformat and reinstall without the damned firewall. Is that hard?
#3.1 Marshalus on 08 Jun 2009 - 22:25
When the network won't let you on without it, it will be.
#3.2 Shunik Jan on 08 Jun 2009 - 22:41
Oh I see then, clever S.O.B.s
(2 replies) #4 lflashl on 08 Jun 2009 - 22:24
CHINA FTW!
#4.1 cabron on 08 Jun 2009 - 22:27
lflashl said,
CHINA FTW!


You sound like you want to move to China, go over there and see if you can live without internet and in a restricting country.
#4.2 Sigmatic.Minor on 09 Jun 2009 - 00:01
I went there.. Nice country to visit, but I wouldnt wanna move there.
I like Australia
(2 replies) #5 Krome on 08 Jun 2009 - 22:26
HAHAHAHA "The Great Firewall" of China.
#5.1 empty on 08 Jun 2009 - 23:49
Krome said,
HAHAHAHA "The Great Firewall" of China.


i think that was the joke already...
#5.2 Krome on 09 Jun 2009 - 16:29
empty said,
i think that was the joke already...

... and that's why I laughed hard...
(1 reply) #6 yakumo on 08 Jun 2009 - 22:31
So what about users of other OS's ?
#6.1 Elliot Harrison on 08 Jun 2009 - 22:45
Doesn't really mention them. The original article states that the software developed is designed to be compatible with Microsoft's Windows operating system. However, it does also mention that Yahoo, Google and Microsoft have responded to these requests from some governments across the globe, though on how they will deal with these censorship requests, they just assure they will be 'transparent' about the requests they receive.
(3 replies) #7 Eddo89 on 08 Jun 2009 - 22:40
Restricting porn? That isn't exactly going to help the 1 child policy......
#7.1 Shunik Jan on 08 Jun 2009 - 22:43
I'm curious as to what happens when parents give birth to Twins. Do they kill both, keep one, take both away, what?
#7.2 ilike2burnthing on 08 Jun 2009 - 22:57
In the case of multiple births, the parents are allowed to keep the children, although I'm sure the government make it difficult for them, with extra taxes or something.
#7.3 FoxieFoxie on 09 Jun 2009 - 20:53
Shunik Jan said,
I'm curious as to what happens when parents give birth to Twins. Do they kill both, keep one, take both away, what?


Back in old times, if 1st kid was a girl, they killed her cause most want a guy. That's why most of the guys there are screwed up and got no gf's
(2 replies) #8 TheNay on 08 Jun 2009 - 22:54
Lame, if my country did that i'd be outta here
#8.1 ilike2burnthing on 08 Jun 2009 - 23:00
Lies
#8.2 Nose Nuggets on 08 Jun 2009 - 23:34
TheNay said,
Lame, if my country did that i'd be outta here


i call BS
(1 reply) #9 RPDL on 08 Jun 2009 - 23:05
I believe hackers will easily be able to find a way to bypass this.
#9.1 Sigmatic.Minor on 09 Jun 2009 - 00:00
and get punished for it.. if they get caught anyway which they probably wont, but man.. i wouldnt wanna be them if they did
(1 reply) #10 aarste on 08 Jun 2009 - 23:12
lol @ China, this won't last.
#10.1 Nose Nuggets on 08 Jun 2009 - 23:35
aarste said,
lol @ China, this won't last.


its BEEN lasting. this is not new.
(2 replies) #11 Nose Nuggets on 08 Jun 2009 - 23:36
by far the scariest part of this article is the fact that i could easily see this

"a green, healthy, and harmonious Internet environment, and preventing harmful information on the Internet from influencing and poisoning young people."

coming out of Washington.

/scary terrorists making bobs from the interwebs!
#11.1 DeltaFalcon on 09 Jun 2009 - 04:46
Nose Nuggets said,
by far the scariest part of this article is the fact that i could easily see this

"a green, healthy, and harmonious Internet environment, and preventing harmful information on the Internet from influencing and poisoning young people."

coming out of Washington.

/scary terrorists making bobs from the interwebs!

Two words: First Amendment.

I know this, and I'm born and bred Australian.
#11.2 Nose Nuggets on 09 Jun 2009 - 16:41
DeltaFalcon said,
Nose Nuggets said,
by far the scariest part of this article is the fact that i could easily see this

"a green, healthy, and harmonious Internet environment, and preventing harmful information on the Internet from influencing and poisoning young people."

coming out of Washington.

/scary terrorists making bobs from the interwebs!

Two words: First Amendment.

I know this, and I'm born and bred Australian.


And its probably because you live in Australia that you are unaware of our right being stripped from us. now we have free speech ZONES for peaceful protest. the second amendment is on its way out . there is no more habeus corpus here any more either. the document is great in theory but very very few Americans are willing to do all that is necessary to see it adhered to.
(1 reply) #12 djdanster on 09 Jun 2009 - 00:06
Couldn't you just format your HD and then reinstall your OS without that filtering crap on it?
#12.1 Ledgem on 09 Jun 2009 - 01:35
This Neowin news stub doesn't mention it, but when I originally read about this on another tech news site they mentioned that this filtering would be accomplished by software and hardware methods (maybe something within the BIOS). That aside, if every computer is running this software, it'd be very easy to require it to be running. They could either send the police to you for circumventing the software, or they could simply block net access to any system that isn't running it.
(2 replies) #13 Ji@nBing on 09 Jun 2009 - 01:31
Looks like I will have to bring my PC with me when I move back there . Not that I would even need porn there; being a white guy, you could have a different girl every night
#13.1 java2beans on 09 Jun 2009 - 02:27
Don't forget the different STD you get with them
#13.2 Ji@nBing on 09 Jun 2009 - 02:35
java2beans said,
Don't forget the different STD you get with them

Condoms my friend. Condoms!!
#14 Sp32 on 09 Jun 2009 - 04:04
obviously there will be ways to get around this, there is always someone too clever..

The question is what will happen to servers hosted in china?
#15 DATmafia on 09 Jun 2009 - 07:21
I am surprised they have not done this earlier when the Internet was first introduced. China is not to be trusted at all whatsoever. The rampant baby selling black market is a really sad too, but they deny that ever happens of coarse. They have the lead paint, pet food and dry wall scandals to deny too. Why doesn't Lenovo sell every PC in China? I wouldn't want the headache of trying to work with the unworkable Chinese government.
#16 nixbsd on 09 Jun 2009 - 07:44
it's about 'false-flag', powerful nation like to do this

tryin to control the flow of information for their own gain

just like GW Arsenal Gear, GW Outer Haven

http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/GW

Last edited by nixbsd on 09 Jun 2009 - 07:53
#17 daPhoenix on 09 Jun 2009 - 07:59
What the poster conveniently "forgot" from the article was that the software can be uninstalled by the end user if they so choose - funny enough many other IT news included this "insignificant little tidbit".

Then again, I would expect no less from a US based website.
(3 replies) #18 amaz on 09 Jun 2009 - 10:24
As a chinese, this piece of **** software is not going to change our daily life. just like we not allow to have firearms, we just have to deal with it. shame we can't start a massacre in school like the americans
#18.1 carmatic on 09 Jun 2009 - 16:09
i am not american, but you sound like you are part of a collective... like a hive mind or something like that...
#18.2 DayDay on 09 Jun 2009 - 16:22
How's the Chinese food?
#18.3 Richteralan on 10 Jun 2009 - 06:44
amaz said,
As a chinese, this piece of **** software is not going to change our daily life. just like we not allow to have firearms, we just have to deal with it. shame we can't start a massacre in school like the americans

what...you think start a massacre in school is cool?
this further proves chinese are backward culturally...
#19 Michael H. on 09 Jun 2009 - 18:43
Even if the software is easily removed by the user and isn't that efficient, China has yet again crossed the freedom of speech barrier.
#20 treemonster on 10 Jun 2009 - 00:56
i use anti chinese government phrases in aion china's shoutchat lol.
#21 zwit on 10 Jun 2009 - 01:00
The ppl above are really funny. Surely you can always have program to perform the removal of the pre-installed software.

The Chinese GFW is powerful, but it is far from invincible. There are a number of software which can easily break it and they are all upgrading according to the change of GFW. I used one called Gpass and it did the job very well.

Well apart from this, there are always basic simple "silly" ways to bypass keyword filteration and look for specific information online. The great thing about wouldwide internet is: it cannot be walled.
#22 ixne_hombre on 10 Jun 2009 - 05:56
Nt surprising at all. Was there on business a year or two ago, and watching CNN - interviews of people for the upcoming anniversary of the HK independence from the UK - some college age kid being interviewed makes some comments about how the government isn't providing the freedoms they promised (something like that anyway), and the CNN feed gets cut off - apparently the censors just shut it down, for about 10-20 minutes. Really made me think about the freedoms i/we take foregranted

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