Apple has always been a company known for design; not just design, but even the most loathing Apple hater will have to admit at some time that the company does make some pretty well thought out products. Robert Brunner over at Fast Company has written an interesting blog post about Apple's design, and how other companies attempt to replicate it, sometimes producing a bad result for the end user.Brunner has said, "Here's the gist: Apple has been so successful in design, that to many people if something does not resemble an iPhone, iPod, MacBook, etc., it is not 'good design.' If it is not an uber-simple, highly-rationalized, single-buttoned, machined-from-a-solid-block-of aluminum thing, it can't be good, right? It's become a pretty common undertone in articles, reviews, blogs, and user commentary. Sometimes subtle, sometimes overt. But the overall message is there: If you don't do it like Apple, you are not practicing 'good design.' You'll notice that there is a fair number of companies that do try to copy Apple; though people could argue that they do not innovate in features, it would be hard to say that they don't produce ones that are dead simple to use, whilst looking good in the process.
TUAW raises an interesting question, though: "Has Apple's definition of good design skewed consumer perception?" Apple's generally successful design have, as mentioned, lead to other companies trying to follow suit; they have done their best to create simple, and beautiful devices or software. This has also carried over to the naming of products... you can certainly find a fair few products that begin with an "i" around the market now, that aren't just from Apple. Have the boys and girls over at Cupertino really changed customer perspective of good design, though? That it probably a matter of taste, really. Although, when a company can make a product that leads others to take hints from design and naming conventions, perhaps it's more of Apple changing business perspectives, not consumer ones. Apple's App Store has certainly lead to other companies creating their own iterations of the service; that is hard to deny.
Brunner references the quote, "Be yourself -- just be a good one." A product does not have to be simple and elegant in order for it to succeed. We're interested in hearing what you guys have to say... do you think Apple has changed the way products should look and feel, or are they irrelevant and others are at the forefront of usability?
















You don't have to care about a product to put comment here. Besides, putting comments here on neowin is what you supposed to do anyway.
and if you have "not so pretty" outside(like the recent famous singer with great voice) you're not going to make it .. not easily anyway
and if you have "not so pretty" outside(like the recent famous singer with great voice) you're not going to make it .. not easily anyway
pretty girls are also expensive, they don't pay for gas
Think of the 1st gen iPod Touch with no buttons other than a home button. Did it look good, yeah, but changing the volume was horrible. Not good design.
And the current MacBook Air... could they have squeezed another USB port in there? Of course, but more ports are "ugly" and therefore its just got the single USB port.
design is good, but sometimes it seems that apple would rather focus on the aesthetics of their products instead of the functionality
I would agree that Apple have produced some disasters, but I completely understand the elegance that they are trying to achieve with reducing the number of buttons. If you can't, then you want something different to the rest of us.
What a really bad article...
+1
Every new generation of HTC phones have lost buttons since the iPhone release. The Kaiser which came out at the same time was LOADED with buttons, the Touch Pro lost quite a bit and finally the latest Touch Pro 2 even lost its dpad. They could have fit a small dpad or even a trackball, but function must be sacrificed for form to compete with Apple.
I hope this is a fad and I get my buttons back soon!
hell no.. minimalism is awesome...
especially in music...
I would agree that Apple have produced some disasters, but I completely understand the elegance that they are trying to achieve with reducing the number of buttons. If you can't, then you want something different to the rest of us.
What a really bad article...
I'm not really a fan of Apple at all either, to be honest. But despite the differences I had to admit the iPhone is a very good product that I actually bought one
These are known as people who cannot think for themselves. There are many designs that are superior to Apple's (and many that are not) but not being an Apple clone simply makes a product unique - not a failure.
You'll notice that there is a fair number of companies that do try to copy Apple
And I am sure Steve & Company are flattered (what's that they say about immitation and flattery?). However, any company or brand that copies Apple is beyond pitiful for two reasons. First, they clearly have no original concept or idea. No ceativity. And secondly, they are relying on the successful image and design that another company spent a fortune to create in order to move product.
When I was shopping for MP3 players the only one that caught my eye was Cowon's iAudio. It had everything I needed, a design superior to iPod, and a reasonable price. The problem was I didn't want to support a company that relied on the iName scheme to sell their product. Is it really that difficult to come up with a unique name? Why piggyback on Apple's ides?
Apple's designs are good for Apple. But if a competitor can't come up with their own name, their own style, their own design then I don't have a lot of faith in their product.
Here's an experiment. Let's see how many people look at Dell's new Studio One and see an iMac? Seriously.
These are known as people who cannot think for themselves. There are many designs that are superior to Apple's (and many that are not) but not being an Apple clone simply makes a product unique - not a failure.
You'll notice that there is a fair number of companies that do try to copy Apple
And I am sure Steve & Company are flattered (what's that they say about immitation and flattery?). However, any company or brand that copies Apple is beyond pitiful for two reasons. First, they clearly have no original concept or idea. No ceativity. And secondly, they are relying on the successful image and design that another company spent a fortune to create in order to move product.
When I was shopping for MP3 players the only one that caught my eye was Cowon's iAudio. It had everything I needed, a design superior to iPod, and a reasonable price. The problem was I didn't want to support a company that relied on the iName scheme to sell their product. Is it really that difficult to come up with a unique name? Why piggyback on Apple's ides?
Apple's designs are good for Apple. But if a competitor can't come up with their own name, their own style, their own design then I don't have a lot of faith in their product.
Here's an experiment. Let's see how many people look at Dell's new Studio One and see an iMac? Seriously.
they are more interested in making money than preserving their sense of identity, if you dont like it imagine how much more Apple dislikes it, they sue people who use the shape of an apple in their logos and stuff...didnt they also try to go after people who used an 'i' at the beginning of the product name?
That's what Appleanity(religion of Apple) is all about.
Granted, not everyone is like this, of course, but too many are.
One would think that Apple has raised the bar for elegance in technology, which is a good thing.
One would think that Apple has raised the bar for elegance in technology, which is a good thing.
Yes like the original iMac that was modeled after a clothing Iron. Brilliant - find a cute product that most people don't know about, replicate the design or function, then use marketing to tell the world they did it first and are the best at it...
Remember the 'first 64bit computer' ads that the UK made them pull? And OS X still is a 32bit OS ironically?
Remember the PowerPC ads calling it the first desktop supercomputer, which even IBM refuted, and they know something about the PowerPC CPU.
Remember the iPod and how they were the first to do it 'right', yet many people like myself had a Creative MP3 player that was 4 years old, had better sound, more storage and more features...
Apple has freaking awesome marketing... as for 'elegance in technology' they fail...
It is just too bad the companies they screwed over or that did offer 'elegance' to technology didn't have Apple's mareketing company that will go for th throat and even dip into NLP practices that other advertisers even refrain from using as they are considered unethical and borderline illegal.
Heck iPod and iTunes, the pioneers of digital media and online media stores, right? Not really, there were several that were around before iTunes and many many MP3 devices around before the iPod, and they didn't lock people into buying from just their store and using just their software to load music on the devices...
I wonder if people would pay to smell the chairs of the Apple designers sometimes... Actually, if Apple Marketing gets involved, everyone probably would, as it would be the cool and hip thing to do. Move over AXE body spray, Apple iASS is just more trendy...
Geesh...
What? SD cards and ExpressCards aren't even comparable. They're completely different. Why are you comparing them?
omg. floppy drives are obsolete...SD cards totally are not. What a comparison...
effect is having the effect of something. affect is something that affects a person. probably americanized english.. can be used either way really.
http://lostmoya.files.wordpress.com/2007/1...t_an_effect.png
Only issue there is Ronaldo is the best lol
Real Madrid middle-field player please.
http://www.ideo.com/
Not that they don't deserve credit, but come on.
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It is all down to personal preference, I like the iPhone because it does everything I need.
(not getting the new one as the Compass and the voice control and somethign else n something are all minor changes)
Rubbish and pointless. It is almost like you should skip the in between iPhone. Buy like this 1st gen - 3rd gen - 5th gen or 2nd gen, 4th gen, 6th gen etc
Software design behind the iPhone is what makes it. Idea of mobile phone when it first came out, was to get to where you wanted to be in as little button pushes as possible. A lot of phones forgot that design feature until the iPhone was released. As phones became more complicated, so did the software running them. Windows mobile is big example here. But it took the iPhone to push them to get there act together and make there software better. Win mo 7 looks great and that is way it should be.
For design features you need companies to create stuff and make it simple even if it is just using features that where already created by someone else. Look at the amount of touch screen phones there has been since the iPhone? look at how many have been trying to compete with iPhone?
At the end of the day I would never buy a device based on who makes it. I would buy any kind of device as long as I enjoy its features and it works. That is something people for get now days. Personal choice is the way to go. Dell laptops, Windows 7, iPhone, Blackberry bold. Wide range of tech there for me.
Remember when Dell first copied the G4 case with clamshells, but they had to do it with 2 release buttons and one was on the BOTTOM of the tower. That's attempting to copy Apple design, not getting it, and failing miserably.
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