Article updated, please see latest updates belowEver since Microsoft discontinued its "OneCare" Anti-Virus suite, gossip has been flying that Microsoft would be releasing a free Anti-Virus\Anti-Spyware tool codenamed "Morro".
The software product, codenamed "Morro" after a beach in Sao Paulo, Brazil, is already being tested by Microsoft employees and a trial version will be made available "soon". Microsoft has stated that Morro would be available by the end of 2009 at the latest.
"Morro" is likely to be targeted to compete with the low end of anti-virus products from other providers, and it will not have much of an impact on sales of full-blown security suites. According to Janice Chaffin, president of Symantec's Consumer Division, "Microsoft's free product is basically a stripped down version of the OneCare product Microsoft pulled from the shelves. A full Internet security suite is what consumers require today to stay fully protected."
Today we received three exclusive screen shots of the upcoming anti-virus suite from an anonymous tipster, we understand this is an internal build that is currently under testing so the UI is subject to change.
Update: Morro will now be renamed Microsoft Security Essentials.
Can't wait to try it. =P
Props, in my opinion, are very due.
an article the other day said it was all 'cloud based' meaning all files were uploaded to MS servers. I think it's BS and I see no indication of that in the shots.
absolutley love onecare so i can't wait to see how this holds up with windows firewall and defender.
How is that not the ribbon UI?
lol, that's true for the skinned interface. The other simple UI is pretty straight forward and looks somewhat OS native.
+5 ahmen brother
Props, in my opinion, are very due.
SYMANTEC WE'RE POINTING AT YOU!!
Speak for yourself. I know exactly "what's going on there" at a glance.
Yeah... His gripe is my desire.
Agreed
I haven't used a full security suite since 2003 and have relied on free anti-virus protection, yet not once has my system been compromised because I know how to secure it in the first place.
I have all my family now using the free products and they have no issues either. Symantec is just trying to sell outdated software that has become unnecessary since Vista was released. I don't even use any spyware tools any more because they just aren't needed on a standard user account with third party cookies disabled and add to that a little common sense prevention measures on top of it. Windows Firewall is now first class and light on the resources and UAC blocks almost all rootkits, unlike on XP. Add full DEP, ASLR, disabled AutoPlay and SEHOP on top of that and you have a very secure os.
A good job configuring features already present in Windows and your router, alongside a low profile anti-virus program, and occasional cleanups by non-resident software (ccleaner? tuneup utilities? anyone?), will at the very least match (if not out-perform) the job of some resource hogging security suite, and only requires maybe 20 minutes of some 15 year old geek's time that he'd be more than happy sharing for a few bucks since American businesses these days are terrified of hiring minors and parents would rather bother the public with their crotchfruit than hire teenage babysitters.
*huff*
What a laugh though. These so called security suites have been responsible for more downtime, system degredation, and user panic than any virus I've come into contact with in ages. Even NIS2009 doesn't buck this trend (I'm running fraking Vista/Win7, I don't need your 'backup' software etc)
Indeed - no one wants all the crap Symantec bundle into their "Internet Security" software these days. All it does is bog down your computer and suck up your bandwidth.
A nice stripped down basic function antivirus is all I want thanks.
If Microsoft are giving it away free then Symantec, your time is up!
That should probably be past-tense -- blocked -- at least by default from Windows 7 onwards.
(Though MS's excuses for ignoring the problem in Win7 seem to boil down to UAC not blocking rootkits in the first place -- even for standard user accounts if you follow their logic (or lack of).)
http://www.pretentiousname.com/misc/win7_uac_whitelist2.html (which now includes the source code & proof-of-concept exes).
Bing is the name of my retarded cousin,
and now, Morro is a film I saw that sucked.
true. But everytime I use Bing, I remember my cousin. It just makes me angry. I hated my cousin!
Bing is the name of my retarded cousin,
and now, Morro is a film I saw that sucked.
It's probably because MS haven't called you and asked:
- Hi, Michael here?
- Yes
- Okay, have you seen movie "Morro"?
- Yes, it sucked
- Oh, since you think it's sucked, we'd better come up with so much better code name, thanks, Michael.
- NP
- Oh, also, since you don't like your cousin, we will rebrand Bing to something else. Do you have any other names in your family which you hate? Just in case.
Why? Is your cousin Steve Bing? Chandler Bing?
Bing is the name of my retarded cousin,
and now, Morro is a film I saw that sucked.
It's probably because MS haven't called you and asked:
- Hi, Michael here?
- Yes
- Okay, have you seen movie "Morro"?
- Yes, it sucked
- Oh, since you think it's sucked, we'd better come up with so much better code name, thanks, Michael.
- NP
- Oh, also, since you don't like your cousin, we will rebrand Bing to something else. Do you have any other names in your family which you hate? Just in case.
Wonderful.. just wonderful!! So Microsoft hasn't called you yet Michael Jacob for your ok to go ahead with the project until after the naming issue is resolved?
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Bing Crosby? Bing Cherry? Bingo?
Bing is the name of my retarded cousin,
and now, Morro is a film I saw that sucked.
It's probably because MS haven't called you and asked:
- Hi, Michael here?
- Yes
- Okay, have you seen movie "Morro"?
- Yes, it sucked
- Oh, since you think it's sucked, we'd better come up with so much better code name, thanks, Michael.
- NP
- Oh, also, since you don't like your cousin, we will rebrand Bing to something else. Do you have any other names in your family which you hate? Just in case.
Wonderful.. just wonderful!! So Microsoft hasn't called you yet Michael Jacob for your ok to go ahead with the project until after the naming issue is resolved?
All of you guys don't see it. I hope some big company would launch a product that has a name that you don't like. And then I'm gonna say like, "hello? hello? We will rebrand this blah blah for you"
Whooooosh! And there goes the whole point, right over your head!
Names don't matter unless they are: ****, ****, ****, *******, ass, ****, bitch, ****, dick and others like them...
Other than that, who gives a flying ****? (aside from you apparently)
Bing is the name of my retarded cousin,
and now, Morro is a film I saw that sucked.
It's probably because MS haven't called you and asked:
- Hi, Michael here?
- Yes
- Okay, have you seen movie "Morro"?
- Yes, it sucked
- Oh, since you think it's sucked, we'd better come up with so much better code name, thanks, Michael.
- NP
- Oh, also, since you don't like your cousin, we will rebrand Bing to something else. Do you have any other names in your family which you hate? Just in case.
Wonderful.. just wonderful!! So Microsoft hasn't called you yet Michael Jacob for your ok to go ahead with the project until after the naming issue is resolved?
All of you guys don't see it. I hope some big company would launch a product that has a name that you don't like. And then I'm gonna say like, "hello? hello? We will rebrand this blah blah for you"
Dude, you seriously need to work through your issues with your cousin...
Bing is the name of my retarded cousin,
and now, Morro is a film I saw that sucked.
You forgot to mention Zune (including the term "squirting" someone), and those short-lived rebranded gamer keyboards and mice designed by Razer with the names so weird I can't even remember them. Razer Necrosis or something.
You better go check up on your retarded cousin, because I think he is working for Microsoft's marketing department.
she's a girl. and she's like 11, and she fell on her mother's arm when she's a baby that somehow made her retarded.
LOL
Might I suggest then that you go and get some sort of psychiatric counselling.
Umm? Right.
hahahaha
+1 lol
I agree .. AV, Firewall, Anti-malware
Too bad for symantec Windows 7 already has kick ass anti-malware and firewall capabilities built in leaving only the AV part open.
Gee will you look at that .. free AV :o
Ok so maybe a spamfilter and URL checker or something .. but who REALLY needs those?
Office has anti-spam as does 99% of all email servers.
And IE8 does have anti-phishing protection, aka, url checker as you put it.
I think with Morrow, MS just covered all the bases.
I agree .. AV, Firewall, Anti-malware
Too bad for symantec Windows 7 already has kick ass anti-malware and firewall capabilities built in leaving only the AV part open.
Gee will you look at that .. free AV :o
Ok so maybe a spamfilter and URL checker or something .. but who REALLY needs those?
Office has anti-spam as does 99% of all email servers.
Agreed. With vista, and again with Windows 7, anyone using "Internet Security Suites" are deluding themselves, and wasting their money.
AV is the last piece of the puzzle for Microsoft.
We'll wait and see what the final product looks like first.
The Morro screenshots clearly show it is a Spyware and Anti-Virus scanner.
@Symantec, include Windows Live Parental controls and the built in Firewall and how isn't that a full security suite?
No. Did you read? This is an antivirus scanner.
In today's setup with the majority of computer users being behind some NAT based router configuration I'm still trying to find the usefulness of software firewalls for average users.
Not sure, I kind of like cheese sandwich edition, I heard their latest upgrade is going to include mayo
In today's setup with the majority of computer users being behind some NAT based router configuration I'm still trying to find the usefulness of software firewalls for average users.
It is like registry cleaners people try to sell. They convince people to buy software they don't really need or is not much if any better than the tools Windows already ships with. Since most people are not tech savvy enough to know this information, they are easily marketed to and duped into pouring out large sums of cash for software they don't even need. It is just one big and legal fraud scheme that has become highly profitable to The Geek Squad and companies like Symantec.
If you don't run any AV, how can you be so certain about that?
At least be a good net citizen and scan your PC at least monthly with a online virus scan. Weekly would be better but at least do it monthly to be certain.
However, until/unless IPv6 gets onto the general Internet (outside of specialized backbones and intranets, IPv6 sees no basic usage, despite it being supported in at least patchable form for *eight years*, and that's just from Microsoft) there's little use for an IPv6-capable HARDWARE firewall; Windows on the client side has included an IPv6-ready software firewall since XP's Service Pack 1.
In you're wondering about the DOCSIS 3.0 standard, CableLabs includes an IPv6-ready SPI firewall in the standard, as every D3 cable HSI deployer is also looking to deploy IPv6; I have no idea whether VZ will do the same with FIOS or stick with NAT and IPv4 (which I find unlikely, as VZB is a major partner in Uncle Sam's IPv6 deployment).
In today's setup with the majority of computer users being behind some NAT based router configuration I'm still trying to find the usefulness of software firewalls for average users.
It is like registry cleaners people try to sell. They convince people to buy software they don't really need or is not much if any better than the tools Windows already ships with. Since most people are not tech savvy enough to know this information, they are easily marketed to and duped into pouring out large sums of cash for software they don't even need. It is just one big and legal fraud scheme that has become highly profitable to The Geek Squad and companies like Symantec.
There are those out there that lack common-sense.
As a technician, I've certainly seen enough infections that need to be cleaned up. *That* is what technicians (and services like Geek Squad) do mostly; clean up the messes resulting from a lack of common-sense.
YOU may have common-sense; that isn't necessarily true of Aunt Jane or Cousin Bob.
Morro sounds like an nigerian footballplayer
"Bing" is a nice name...it's easy to pronounce
Every other AV has raped my system performance, so I stick with none and run all dodgy stuff in a VM and reformat every now and then.
MS can embed this mofo, interesting.
Morrowind
I hope this turns out to be a good product.
Well, no, it doesn't matter, just can be misleding
By the time that WLOC gets to get an oar in, prospective customers are pretty much locked up; either by their ISP (bundle deal with McAfee, such as those with Comcast and VZ), the OEM (Dell and Symantec, for example), even if the customer builds their own, a bundle deal with the motherboard OEM (ASUS, for example, has a bundle deal with Symantec) if not the manufacturer of their router (Cisco/Linksys and Trend Micro).
That's a lot of hoops that a prospective customer has to pass through, and that's just for Microsoft to have any chance at all.
The issue in this area is that the broadband ISP market here is mostly split bewtween Comcast and VZ (both of which have bundle deals with McAfee). Given that most customers that have broadband are watching their dollars these days, and I have no bone to pick with McAfee currently (since they now support Windows 7). The real issue is going to be impact on system performance: McAfee vs. free solutions such as Avast vs. Morro is going to be the real battle as far as broadband customers in this area running Windows 7 goes.
While I understand the sentiment, that's a revolting analogy.
Pouring.
Perhaps once the EU gets done with them, we'll all be presented with a ballot box and be forced to choose between Norton AV, McAfee, Antivirus 2009, and Morro.
Just so the consumer has a fair choice, you know.
I'm not trying to sound rude, just pointing out so others don't get confused
Calum, I think it's your comment that doesn't make sense.
I'm not trying to sound rude, just pointing out so others don't get confused
Yeah you're right. Got my wires crossed there. I meant to say less obtrusive.
Oh the shame...
"Any more unobtrusive" or "Any less obtrusive" would be the correct way
As I say, I'm not trying to offend or be rude. I just wanted to point it out in case anybody got confused and thought protocol7 was trying to say it was obtrusive
I expect that Morro will replace noob AV installs (yay!) and even I will likely use it on all of my machines, EXCEPT my major one.
At least until I see how well it holds up on those...
Looks good, by the way. Although it needs a little work on the UI, but lets leave that for the final version.
no but really, my only concern here is if the engine is if its detection is as bad as i hear one care's is
Because I'm using a newer build.
So then why don't you take some screenshots for us to see the new UI if that's the case?
If you're going to moan about outdated info, then post saying you have a newer build. Why aren't you sharing? If it's a legal thing, you could've done it on the hush-hush even.
I don't get some people, they just wanna bitch for the hell of it.
If you're going to moan about outdated info, then post saying you have a newer build. Why aren't you sharing? If it's a legal thing, you could've done it on the hush-hush even.
I don't get some people, they just wanna bitch for the hell of it.
For the same reason Paul Thurrott can't disclose any information. MS hasn't given anyone the green light.
In the meantime, I think you should at least respect other people's decisions to NOT break their NDA's.
In the meantime, I think you should at least respect other people's decisions to NOT break their NDA's.
The fact that he acknowledges he has a newer build breaks the NDA. A non-disclosure isn't just for screenshots. He isn't suppose to talk about it period.
So he is most likely not using a newer build and just wants to enlarge his e-penis.
Either that or he doesn't understand his NDA at all.
Have you ever noticed that Thurrott doesn't ever mention something that is protected under a NDA until someone else breaks their NDA? It is because he isn't allowed to even mention it unless someone else does.
In any case, it was a bit of a bitchy comment. How are any of us here supposed to know whether it's a new or old build?
What the program looks like reveals a fair amount about how it works.
If you're going to moan about outdated info, then post saying you have a newer build. Why aren't you sharing? If it's a legal thing, you could've done it on the hush-hush even.
I don't get some people, they just wanna bitch for the hell of it.
My complaint was with the title of this article. The author uses the word "reveal" as if they made some earth shattering reveal here. But it's full of nothing but packing peanuts. The text is nothing more than the old announcement rehashed and the screenshots at little value.
It was clearly posted for "big bang" traffic reasons, nothing more.
http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/pa...shots-leak.aspx
"Neowin has posted a couple of shots of an older Morro build. Again, I can't really comment except to note that this build is already out of date."
The article shares some insight about Morro and that's all that it is inteded to do...
I could care less about where some image or button is placed in the UI. I'll get the final UI when it is released...
People just love to complain it seems.
The article shares some insight about Morro and that's all that it is inteded to do...
I could care less about where some image or button is placed in the UI. I'll get the final UI when it is released...
People just love to complain it seems.
admittably, the article does say nothing. What did we learn exclusively?
Neowin have exclusively revealed some screenshots of Morro. No one else has, therefore it IS exclusive. It was definitely the first time I have seen them regardless of whether they are old or not.
I wouldn't have expected the man behind WithinWindows would be so tetchy. Have they spoiled your "exclusive". [< snipped > - Calum]
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It was clearly posted for "big bang" traffic reasons, nothing more.
Rafael, it may not have been revealed to you and the few other users who were able to try out this piece of development software, but it is definately new and has been revealed to millions of other users, who have not seen it before; whether it's an old build or not.
If they don't change that codename, Spanish and Portuguese people won't stop laughing.
Spanish: Microsoft Snout
Portuguese: Microsoft I Die
Looks interesting though.
If they don't change that codename, Spanish and Portuguese people won't stop laughing.
Spanish: Microsoft Snout
Portuguese: Microsoft I Die
Looks interesting though.
Well, I guess they could always imagine it as "smelling" for the Spaniards. And claim that is what Virus says to the scanner in Portuguese haha.
There's a Castle Morro in Cuba and Fort San Felipe de Morro in Puerto Rico that both act as fortresses, intending to keep away invaders.
Thus one could conclude that Microsoft Morro = fortress; viruses/malware = invaders
Anyway, Morro is just a codename...
I'd recommend MS give the windows firewall the same gui treatment, and make it more of a rival to the likes of Comodo or Outpost ...
(Don't believe me? I submitted an article with screenshots of the installation process.)
Preview of installation: http://weimgup.com/images/us4y9962xv321britg4.jpg
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/cc339029.aspx
This is what my contacts use internally.
Match that Morro and I'm sold!
Full blown Internet security suite is more like it. I prefer one application for one purpose. Have uninstalled quite a few "Security Suites" in the past year, sometimes after removing a virus or trojan they missed, sometimes after increasing the RAM only to still have a machine with lack luster performance. Run a different operating system, virtual machine, or a live CD/DVD and stop paying the local thugs for protection. Nice to see Microsoft trying to put up a fence to keep the hoods from throwing rocks through our WIndows though. 04 was the last year I used a Symantec product, ditched Trend Micro last year. Have had good times with OnLine Armor, Avast, and AVG, all also available in free versions. Use Avast for manual scans on a Linux box on occasion too, as drives are shared with Windows.
But it looks alright. Not that I use AV...Kinda pointless in this age.
It can cause issues and it's not recommended. I've tried in the past and one AV scanner will say the other one is a virus and vice-versa.
As people have already commented, the interface has changed since these screenshots were taken.
Finally I can remove all the non-free-for-corporate-use installations on our computers in the office.
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I was quite surprised that they haven't got rid of windows defender
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
lol *thumbs up*
as for windows defender, I think they will eventually sue them over that
as for windows defender, I think they will eventually sue them over that
I second this one....
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Microsoft new products are complete faliure
i'm using Kaspersky Anti-Virus and i am very happy with it
i dont even want to try microsoft products for windows 7
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