On Wednesday, Intel posted a statement on their website explaining how their branding will look in the future; as CNET reports, the hardware company will be splitting their Core CPU range into three categories: i3, i5 and i7, each different tiers of performance.As you can imagine, the new Core i3 range will be the lower performance, the i5 will be mid-range, and the i7 will be reserved for maximum speed. Intel spokesman Bill Calder did say, however, that, "[it is] important to note that these are not brands but modifiers to the Intel Core brand that signal different features and benefits." The upcoming desktop chip, code-named Lynnfield, will fit into either the i5 or i7 category, according to CNET, and the Clarksfield mobile chip will be an i7 CPU.
In the same announcement, Intel revealed that the Centrino brand will be phased out; it will now be used for Wi-Fi and WiMAX. It's worth noting that computers will still be available with Centrino brand processors next year, but they aren't far off from being discontinued. So, this aside, when should this new branding be ready for use? The vice president and director of corporate marketing at Intel, Deborah Conrad, said, ""In the back half of this year you'll begin to see Core i5 and more Core i7s coming to market. Then by the first part of next year you'll begin to see Core i3, and i5, i7. Then the old names will get retired as those products get phased out."
To finish their announcement, Intel mentioned other branding too, saying, "We will still have Celeron for entry-level computing at affordable price points, Pentium for basic computing, and of course the Intel Atom processor for all these new devices ranging from netbooks to smartphones. or PC purchasing, think in terms of good-better-best with Celeron being good, Pentium better, and the Intel Core family representing the best we have to offer. We are focusing our strategy around a primary 'hero' client brand which is Intel Core. Today the Intel Core brand has a mind boggling array of derivatives (such as Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quad, etc). Over time those will go away and in its place will be a simplified family of Core processors."
Be prepared to see a lot of branding of Intel products shift around over the next year or two, with older products still available at the same time as new ones.
I know zero about the i3 though.
only 965 and 975 has 6.4GT/s
only 965 and 975 has 6.4GT/s
Actually, if my BIOS setup screen is to be believed, I can get 6.4 on my 920. So I guess it can go either way for any of them.
And I was wrong..it wasn't the 960, but instead the 965...so I was off by 5.
i know
but the change from 4.6 to 6.4GT/s would be considered overclock anyways for 920/940/950/960. which would void your warranty.
i know
but the change from 4.6 to 6.4GT/s would be considered overclock anyways for 920/940/950/960. which would void your warranty.
Reasonable overclocking will not void your warranty. However if you do crazy stuff like high increases in voltage, using stock fan, no ventilation in your case...ya that voids the warranty
huh... ive been out of the loop, but i thought you keep your warranty by using the stock fan, not void it?
You're right, I forgot about that. But in the end it cuts down the memory channels by 1 and is slower. The speed to the PCI-E bus is the same though so gaming performance doesn't take a hit.
Anyways, that's still just the i5 and i7. Where's the info for the i3?
Last edited by Beastage on 20 Jun 2009 - 00:29
i7 1366
i5 1160(i think?)
i saw it now.
I liked the old way of doing things.
Celeron | Pentium | Xeon
Low End | Mainstream Sweetness | Enterprise
Oh and @ Hardgiant, I thought the i5 and i7 were on different sockets... which is another bad thing.
I liked the option of using a Celeron and Pentium on the same motherboard. I liked the fact that Pentium Ds, Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quad could be used on the same socket. Why must they segment this more?
I might be the only person who is bothered by this though
and the Clarksfield mobile chip will be an i7 CPU
O'rly?
O'rly?
it would be Nahalem based CPU not i7 CPU
this made me lol!....(partly true all jokes aside... .lol...)
Anyway, Intelman's got it right. All this hair-splitting is just driving people nuts.
Ever since Pentium 4 came out I've been bewildered by all the branding and whatnot Intel came up with. Celeron? CoreDuo, i7, etc. Good for gaming, good for business, good for $5 off at Walmart... This is why I decided to get into AMD even though I still consider myself an Intel guy. With AMD, more or less higher number = better processor, though they seem to be going down the Intel path with Dragon, Athlon, Phenom, Black Edition, 6000, 955.. WTF?
Bad marketing, I know... but can't the processor companies come up with simple SLOW, AVERAGE, FAST or CHEAP, AVERAGE, EXPENSIVE or SINGLE CORE, DUAL CORE, QUAD CORE category at least for the mainstream market? Not everyone's a tech geek.
Here's the train of thought of the average computer shopper (who doesn't read NEOWIN):
Why is dual core still around when you have quad core? Are dual cores going to be phased out?
Shouldn't a dual core be the mainstream model in between low end single core and high end quad cores?
Why are some single cores considered high end models... unless the processor specifically says celeron than its a low-end model?
Why do I need to know if a processor is best for business/gaming/internet, etc. when who knows what I'll do with the damn thing? Accounting? Surf? Online games? Probably a bit of everything!
I mean Gigabyte is starting to market their mainboards as VALUE, PERFORMANCE, and ENTHUSIASTIC, so they're seeing something at least.
The specialty stuff like the ATOM or the XEON should at least be specifically stated as LAPTOP PROCESSOR or SERVER PROCESSOR.
I wish we could do something about this. AMD is not that great either for sure. Video cards have been horrible for a while now. At least all the video cards have the same slot....
I'd still go for it considering the price is within your range, then wait a few years and go with the i7 brand.
No no. Wait a few years and get a Sandy Bridge. I might just skip the i7 because my Q6600 is doing a fine job so far.
Socket 775 boards are much cheaper than 1366s. No, not quite the latest and greatest, but more bang for the buck, I think. The money you save can go toward better vid card/monitor...
Socket 775 boards are much cheaper than 1366s. No, not quite the latest and greatest, but more bang for the buck, I think. The money you save can go toward better vid card/monitor...
Hmm, I did some tests using SiSandra latest build and urm my i7 920 won all of the bang for buck tests
So not sure how true that statement is...
When I read i3/i5/i7, I thought, "good, just three names." But nope, just more names added to the existing line.
Celeron and Pentium are now both budget lines. (Why even keep "Celeron"?)
Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad, Core 2 Extreme
Core i3, Core i5, Core i7
Atom
Not only does the current line have confusing names, you never know how much cache is in each. They may have 1 Meg L2, 2 Megs, 3, 4, 6, 8, or 12 Megs L2. They may have Virtualization Technology, or the may not. Some Core 2 Duos and Core 2 Quads lack the VT, but supposedly some budget Pentium Dual-Cores are coming out that do have VT. An old 1.8 GHz Core 2 Duo I have has VT, but the 2.x GHz Pentium Dual-Cores I got recently lack VT.
I guess now with "XP Mode" in Windows 7, perhaps Intel will include VT in all their CPUs (as AMD does).
When I read i3/i5/i7, I thought, "good, just three names." But nope, just more names added to the existing line.
Celeron and Pentium are now both budget lines. (Why even keep "Celeron"?)
Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad, Core 2 Extreme
Core i3, Core i5, Core i7
Atom
Not only does the current line have confusing names, you never know how much cache is in each. They may have 1 Meg L2, 2 Megs, 3, 4, 6, 8, or 12 Megs L2. They may have Virtualization Technology, or the may not. Some Core 2 Duos and Core 2 Quads lack the VT, but supposedly some budget Pentium Dual-Cores are coming out that do have VT. An old 1.8 GHz Core 2 Duo I have has VT, but the 2.x GHz Pentium Dual-Cores I got recently lack VT.
I guess now with "XP Mode" in Windows 7, perhaps Intel will include VT in all their CPUs (as AMD does).
Its not like they'll keep making C2D/C2Qs. Those will be phased out within 6-12 months.
Essentially in a year from now it'll be i3/i5/i7. Celerons/Pentiums will only be used for ultra-budget situations and the likes.
And if you really need XP mode then you also know which CPUs to pick. XP mode is not for the general public, its not an enhanced compatibility mode as some think.
I miss the old intel
Celeron: pentium : pentium EE : xeon
Amd
XP**** Higher the number, better procesor...
XP3200+ | opterons..
Atom - ultra low power
Core i3 - budget end
Core i5 - mainstream
Core i7 - performance and overclocking
Xeon - workstation and server
I think we can all agree that this would make a lot more sense. I do not want to read wikipedia and see a Celeron 320 or whatever they call it uses the nahelem architecture, it's painful enough that it uses the core architecture and not netbus.
the name become totally irrelevant
...but you know, this azzes like making it confusing instead of clearer for the masses. it's trendy to be stupid about naming.
Has Intel changed their minds and decided to stay with hyper threading for future brands?
We don't know for sure one way or the other if Core i5 or Core i3 are HT-enabled or not, but it seems likely that they will not be as they are aimed at the mainstream and budget arenas. However, untill Intel makes an official announcement one way or the other, we really won't know for sure.
We don't know for sure one way or the other if Core i5 or Core i3 are HT-enabled or not, but it seems likely that they will not be as they are aimed at the mainstream and budget arenas. However, untill Intel makes an official announcement one way or the other, we really won't know for sure.
i5
have two cpus HT enabled
and one without(read:crippled)
Keep in mind that this is on a "Confidential" engineering sample, but it looks like it's definitely fully HT'd.
Either that or someone and their photoshop suite is playinf a bad joke on us.
Last edited by Airlink on 20 Jun 2009 - 18:19
Celeron = Same as before
Pentium = Same as before
i3 = Core 2 Duo
i5 = Core 2 Quad
i7 = Same as before
Commenting has either been disabled on this article or you are not logged in. Click here to login or register, its free!
Note: Anonymous commenting is disabled in order to keep the quality of responses to a high standard.