Rumor: Windows 7 RTM sign off set for July 13?

(5 replies) #1 bdsams on 22 Jun 2009 - 18:05

wow this is big news! Digg this!

#1.1 +warwagon on 22 Jun 2009 - 18:06

bdsams said,

wow this is big news! Digg this!

Well its not THAT big of news. It was pretty much assumed.

#1.2 GP007 on 22 Jun 2009 - 18:13

Still good to know. The next big bit of news will finally be the pricing, whenever we get that.

#1.3 m.keeley on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:07

wow some people are easily impressed. What did you think was going to happen?

#1.4 dlegend on 22 Jun 2009 - 21:53

I dugg it =)

#1.5 Lord Ba'al on 22 Jun 2009 - 22:56

So June 19 turned out to be a dud. Well, probably it was a bit too soon still.

#2 +Chrono951 on 22 Jun 2009 - 18:12

This is what I expected. Still can't wait though.

(2 replies) #3 dagamer34 on 22 Jun 2009 - 18:21

I guess the extra month between RTM and release compared to Vista is to make sure the launch goes smoothly.

#3.1 excalpius on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:23

I don't see an "extra month" anywhere? I see three days from the final gold build to the signing off. What month are you referring to?

#3.2 testman on 22 Jun 2009 - 22:16

dagamer34 said,

I guess the extra month between RTM and release compared to Vista is to make sure the launch goes smoothly.

You're talking between July and October (which is 3 months)? This is because it takes OEMs around 2-3 months to test the release and configure it according to their plans, not to make it go smoothly. This is the same as all the previous versions of Windows.

#4 venejo on 22 Jun 2009 - 18:27

Finally...

#5 Critical Error on 22 Jun 2009 - 18:33

I hope, I can get it on MSDN AA till August

(5 replies) #6 +warwagon on 22 Jun 2009 - 18:35

To bad they don't don't sell it on july 14th for everyone who wants to own it before the release date.

#6.1 Anaron on 22 Jun 2009 - 21:35

Yep. As far as I know, Windows 7 RTM will only be available to Microsoft's partners, PC manufacturers, and MSDN/Technet subscribers.

#6.2 testman on 22 Jun 2009 - 22:17

warwagon said,

To bad they don't don't sell it on july 14th for everyone who wants to own it before the release date.

This would be impossible, obviously, seeing as it's going to take them a few months to print packaging with codes, ship in quantities, etc.

#6.3 sphbecker on 22 Jun 2009 - 23:05

It woudn't be impossible if they sold it as a download and shipped the box at a later date once supplies cought up.

#6.4 +warwagon on 23 Jun 2009 - 03:12

sphbecker said,

It woudn't be impossible if they sold it as a download and shipped the box at a later date once supplies cought up.

Or just have a discounted download only version. where you make your own DVD.

#6.5 Thunderbuck on 23 Jun 2009 - 16:23

They will, sort of.

If you have a subscription with MSDN (my new one will be activated literally any minute now) or, um, TechNet, you should be able to download Win7 on RTM day, or very shortly thereafter.

(3 replies) #7 +Chris123NT on 22 Jun 2009 - 18:37

I find it sad that you guys are basing this post solely off a posting on WZOR's site. Surely you have sources to verify this stuff?

Edit: and the latest rtm escrow build isn't 7263, it's 7264:

6.1.7264.0.win7_rtm.090620-1900

Last edited by Chris123NT on 22 Jun 2009 - 18:46

#7.1 rakeshishere on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:00

I thought the same.

#7.2 excalpius on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:20

Indeed. And let's note that Wzor previously announced that "RTM was happening now!", while those of us who actually KNOW what's going on stated clearly that RTM BUILDS were starting now and that Windows 7 would RTM mid to late July. Which is...um...now what they are saying... 8P

#7.3 Raa on 23 Jun 2009 - 00:47

I did say another month. WZOR has no clue, really.

(2 replies) #8 Riggers on 22 Jun 2009 - 18:43

Have Microsoft announced anything? If not then why is the say so of one site considered `official`?

#8.1 Raa on 23 Jun 2009 - 00:47

No they haven't, and no it's not.

#8.2 C.J on 23 Jun 2009 - 19:32

Yep. Nowhere in our article did it say it was official.

(8 replies) #9 RAID 0 on 22 Jun 2009 - 18:48

Does anyone think Windows 7 will beat Snow Leopard to the market?

#9.1 shockz on 22 Jun 2009 - 18:50

RAID 0 said,

Does anyone think Windows 7 will beat Snow Leopard to the market?

When does Snow Leopard hit the market? Missed that part of the WWDC

#9.2 RedSpace on 22 Jun 2009 - 18:51

Does this even matter?

#9.3 RAID 0 on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:05

RedSpace said,

Does this even matter?

Just a question. It mattered enough for you to comment, so yeah.. it does matter.

#9.4 RAID 0 on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:06

shockz said,

When does Snow Leopard hit the market? Missed that part of the WWDC

That's why I asked, as I'm not sure when they're going to RTM. Seems to me like MS and Apple are racing to get their new OS out the door.

#9.5 m.keeley on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:08

That was a statement not a question.

#9.6 C.J on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:27

Snow Leopard is going to be released in September and Windows 7 is going to be released in October. Of course, those are both public releases. Snow Leopard doesn't 'RTM' as such as Apple is the only company who sell it on computers

#9.7 RAID 0 on 22 Jun 2009 - 22:51

You know what I ment.

#9.8 skynetXrules on 22 Jun 2009 - 23:45

C.J said,

Snow Leopard is going to be released in September and Windows 7 is going to be released in October. Of course, those are both public releases. Snow Leopard doesn't 'RTM' as such as Apple is the only company who sell it on computers

it RFA

lol

note:
Released from apple

(3 replies) #10 Gnome on 22 Jun 2009 - 18:56

It feels like Longhorn is finally ready to be RTM'd. Yay Microsoft!

#10.1 Lorne R on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:34

Gnome said,

It feels like Longhorn is finally ready to be RTM'd. Yay Microsoft!

*giggle* Longhorn was the codename for Vista. We are talking about Windows 7! Haha!

#10.2 r1ddl3r on 22 Jun 2009 - 20:39

Lorne R said,

*giggle* Longhorn was the codename for Vista. We are talking about Windows 7! Haha!

He's a hater. Linux REALLY needs more like you Gnome...

#10.3 Gnome on 23 Jun 2009 - 03:08

I don't use Linux. I'm just happy that Windows 7 is finally giving us what we wanted from Longhorn.

(1 reply) #11 Anatolian on 22 Jun 2009 - 18:58

Like I expected..

#11.1 testman on 22 Jun 2009 - 22:19

Anatolian said,

Like I expected..

And the rest of the world, seeing as Microsoft already previously said they'd RTM in July.

(3 replies) #12 Sawyer12 on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:13

Whos Wzor anyway? And theres to the guy wanting to get it on MSDNAA theres NO chance. It took FOREVER to get Vista on MSDNAA. MSDN and Technet though thats a different story

#12.1 dukelion on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:43

I believe it's up to your MSDN-AA admin to put it up

#12.2 iamwhoiam on 23 Jun 2009 - 04:03

Sawyer12 said,

Whos Wzor anyway?

A Russian pirate site.

#12.3 excalpius on 23 Jun 2009 - 06:27

...and one that apparently doesn't read/speak English well enough to tell the difference between "RTM build testing beginning" and "RTM DONE DONE DONE!!!!" 8P

#13 turk4n on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:15

Cool

(1 reply) #14 briangw on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:15

Since when do we believe what WZOR says anyway?

#14.1 Raa on 23 Jun 2009 - 00:48

Who said we did?

(5 replies) #15 on 01 Jan 1970 - 00:00

#15.1 xendrome on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:36

87.75%... give me a call when you see it get below ... maybe 75%?

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-...re.aspx?qprid=8

#15.2 ricknl on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:43

Those numbers have to be US numbers.

Worldwide Windows usage is around 95% and Apple is nowhere near 9%.

#15.3 xendrome on 22 Jun 2009 - 21:40

ricknl said,

Those numbers have to be US numbers.

Worldwide Windows usage is around 95% and Apple is nowhere near 9%.

It's global AFAIK

#15.4 briangw on 22 Jun 2009 - 22:51

xendrome said,

87.75%... give me a call when you see it get below ... maybe 75%?

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-...re.aspx?qprid=8

Just because people surf to the site doesn't mean it's true.

#15.5 +Kirkburn on 23 Jun 2009 - 01:01

Assuming that's based off net stats, remember all the PCs who aren't on the net. I doubt they have a higher ratio of Apple PCs than in the general population.

(3 replies) #16 gertin on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:45

Why does Neowin keep posting "news" (unreliable rumours) from this unknown russian site?

#16.1 C.J on 22 Jun 2009 - 20:34

Because it's news? Or are rumors not news to you? Do you automatically know of a rumor before you hear it? No? Then it is news, because it is new knowledge to you.

#16.2 iamwhoiam on 23 Jun 2009 - 04:05

I hardly find the opinions of a pirate site as news.

#16.3 C.J on 23 Jun 2009 - 12:38

How so? You hadn't heard those opinions before, had you? Therefore, when you heard them, after reading this article, it was new to you. Information which is new to you is news. Therefore, this is news.

#17 g8crash3r on 22 Jun 2009 - 20:41

hmmm...kinda OT but I remember with Windows XP, it was devils0wn, with Windows 7 its now wzor, how about Windows Vista?

(4 replies) #18 Mercy0001 on 22 Jun 2009 - 20:53

I read on a lot of sites that MS is currently building RTM builds and choosing the final build. Everyone says that they only "sign" it when that build suits to the needs of MS. And they will compile builds until Microsoft in happy with one of them.

I have a single question: Why??
Build 6260,6261,6262,6263,... they are all the same, isn't it?
Why does it take so long to decide and chose?

(I'm sorry I don't know that much about OS builds)

#18.1 Soldiers33 on 22 Jun 2009 - 21:02

bugs, fixes? theres lot reasons.

#18.2 Mercy0001 on 22 Jun 2009 - 22:00

Soldiers33 said,

bugs, fixes? theres lot reasons.

How can they find bugs in 1 or 2 days while thousands of people are testing the RC for months now?

#18.3 testman on 22 Jun 2009 - 22:18

Mercy0001 said,

How can they find bugs in 1 or 2 days while thousands of people are testing the RC for months now?

(I'm sorry I don't know that much about OS builds)

Quite.

#18.4 Winston on 22 Jun 2009 - 22:28

Mercy0001 said,

How can they find bugs in 1 or 2 days while thousands of people are testing the RC for months now?

You can't expect all feature teams to submit bug fixes at the same time though. I mean Feature Team A might of got a bug fixed earlier than a bug from Feature Team B.

(3 replies) #19 Gary7 on 22 Jun 2009 - 21:13

WZOR has been right about 99% of the time.

#19.1 FrozenEclipse on 22 Jun 2009 - 21:16

Gary7 said,

WZOR has been right about 99% of the time.

Seems a bit much. Didn't they also say that Microsoft was supposed to sign off on the RTM a few days ago?

#19.2 xendrome on 22 Jun 2009 - 21:41

nope, just said that they are in the process of picking the RTM build....

#19.3 Raa on 23 Jun 2009 - 00:50

"I would say a solid B minus."

Errm, I mean, not that great.

#20 Anaron on 22 Jun 2009 - 21:36

Ah, just as I expected. I had a "too good to be true" feeling from the start. But hey, at least their sticking to the initially purported date.

#21 hardgiant on 22 Jun 2009 - 21:48

Yawn...don't care when the RTM get's done, the latest builds work well enough.

(5 replies) #22 BoDEAN on 22 Jun 2009 - 22:05

WHO CARES> Don't post another Windows 7 news story til RTM is leaked............waste of time and space.

#22.1 stezo2k on 22 Jun 2009 - 22:21

i do. dont read it if you dont like it

ignorance is bliss

#22.2 BoDEAN on 22 Jun 2009 - 22:27

stezo2k said,

i do. dont read it if you dont like it

ignorance is bliss

You care what? That a RTM announcement is made EVERY WEEK on here? That nothing RTM has leaked? Wow............

#22.3 Jimmy422 on 22 Jun 2009 - 23:05

Hey at least we're getting information on what's happening. Just because it's not finished doesn't mean we can't get somewhat accurate information about the process. It's not like one extra story is going to fill neowin's bandwidth limit...

#22.4 +Kirkburn on 23 Jun 2009 - 01:04

BoDEAN said,

You care what? That a RTM announcement is made EVERY WEEK on here? That nothing RTM has leaked? Wow............

You asked who cares. He cares. Q&A session finished.

#22.5 C.J on 23 Jun 2009 - 12:34

BoDEAN said,

That a RTM announcement is made EVERY WEEK on here? That nothing RTM has leaked? Wow............

They were rumors, not announcements. Rumors are not always correct, so we publish the next rumor.

If you don't care, why do you even read and comment on these articles? Why not read and comment on the articles you care about? That is the beauty of choice...

#23 Winston on 22 Jun 2009 - 22:27

I don't get why people bother speculating. Although I can't say if the date is real or not, but it might just be a desired or tentative target date for them. But in theory the true RTM date wouldn't be known till they deem the build as good. Which I think is currently in the works, considering the point of an escrow build is put it in full scrutiny mode, where they actively monitor for show stoppers.

(3 replies) #24 darkmanx21 on 23 Jun 2009 - 02:06

That chart doesn't look right to me. Where is Symbian? You're telling me the iPhone runs on more phones than Symbian? That's hilarious. If anything those numbers HAVE to be for the US.

#24.1 /- Razorfold on 23 Jun 2009 - 02:18

darkmanx21 said,

That chart doesn't look right to me. Where is Symbian? You're telling me the iPhone runs on more phones than Symbian? That's hilarious. If anything those numbers HAVE to be for the US.

Lol wrong topic mate

#24.2 Krome on 23 Jun 2009 - 02:56

lol that just swung me to Mars and back...

#24.3 ZombieFly on 24 Jun 2009 - 08:48

darkmanx21 said,

That chart doesn't look right to me. Where is Symbian? You're telling me the iPhone runs on more phones than Symbian? That's hilarious. If anything those numbers HAVE to be for the US.

lol, are you using windows mobile to read this?

#25 veegun on 23 Jun 2009 - 03:15

'reply to this comment' doesn't seem to work.

I fixed it for you:

"Ah, just as I expected. I had a "too good to be true" feeling from the start. But hey, at least they're sticking to the initially purported date."

(3 replies) #26 Cjay on 23 Jun 2009 - 03:39

anyone know how to translate wzor.info to english. ? google web page translate doesnt work.

#26.1 ilike2burnthing on 23 Jun 2009 - 06:02

c&p

#26.2 Cjay on 23 Jun 2009 - 06:25

ilike2burnthing said,

c&p

thanks, but any other ways? guess thats the only option.

#26.3 C.J on 23 Jun 2009 - 12:30

Have you tried the Bing translator? If you type a full URL into the translate box, it will translate the page for you

(2 replies) #27 jason13524 on 23 Jun 2009 - 09:46

Who the hell is wzor and why are you writing information him/her/it says on the main page??

#27.1 Ishanx on 23 Jun 2009 - 12:27

Wzor is a Russian Website.

#27.2 C.J on 23 Jun 2009 - 12:31

jason13524 said,

[...] and why are you writing information him/her/it says on the main page??

Because it's a rumor, which is news. This is a news website

#28 Avee on 23 Jun 2009 - 16:37

WINDOWS 7 ROCKZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

#29 sava700 on 23 Jun 2009 - 18:44

Win 7 would be ok if more software developers would start playing catch up. To this day I'm still having issues with Punkbuster playing some games using it. Damn API kicks etc driving me nuts.

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