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Microsoft announces Win 7 pricing, special pre-order price

Brad Sams   on 25 June 2009 - 14:03 · 116 comments & 16064 views

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Microsoft has finally announced the pricing and it is good news to the consumer, with prices for its most popular product, Windows Home Premium, receiving about a 10% price drop. With a drop in price Microsoft is hoping to regain customers after the less than desirable launch of Windows Vista.

This prices are very similar, but not identical, to those we reported back in February.

Microsoft will also be offering pre-order upgrades with aggressive prices never seen by Microsoft before. These prices are identical to those we reported back in early June, from a leaked Best Buy memo.

Upgrades:
Home Premium - $ 119.99 (Vista Launch price of $159.99)
Professional* - $ 199.99 (Vista launch price of $199.99)
Ultimate - $ 219.99 (Vista launch price of $259.99)

Pre-Order Upgrades:
Home Premium - $49.99
Professional - $99.99

Full Retail:
Home Premium - $ 199.99 (Vista launch price $239.99)
Professional* - $ 299.99 (Vista launch price $299.99)
Ultimate - $ 319.99 (Vista launch price $399.99

* Windows Vista Business and Windows 7 Professional are used for comparable references

Pre-orders will be limited but Microsoft has not commented yet on what the supply limitations will be. The pre-orders will launch Friday, June 26 – July 11 in the US, Canada, and Japan and will end sooner if supplies are depleted. The UK, France, and Germany preorders launch July 15 – August 14 or will end sooner if supplies are depleted. Keep an eye on windows7upgradeoption.com starting tomorrow, as we anticipate more details being announced about this program on that website. The pre-order upgrades will only be available online and only from select retailers like Best Buy, Amazon.com and the Microsoft Store.

Microsoft is trying to show that Windows 7 is better than Vista in every form. With its more aggressive pricing, and excellent beta reviews, Microsoft wants the world to know that this is the OS you want.

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(9 replies) #1 jjrambo on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:24
And what do i do when heavily loaded system fails to do upgrade? lol
#1.1 Kushan on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:34
Format!
#1.2 Ridlas on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:13
Kushan said,
Format!


the fix to everything!
#1.3 Xero on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:54
Just because its an upgrade doesn't mean you can't do a clean install. Just means you're required to have a previous version of windows installed before. Not sure if it matters between XP or Vista though.

Still a little expensive for my tastes, maybe I can get my office to get it for me to try. Anyone know when the RC expires?
#1.4 unknownsoldierX on 25 Jun 2009 - 17:18
Xero said,
Just because its an upgrade doesn't mean you can't do a clean install. Just means you're required to have a previous version of windows installed before. Not sure if it matters between XP or Vista though.

Still a little expensive for my tastes, maybe I can get my office to get it for me to try. Anyone know when the RC expires?


Do you actually need a previous version installed, or can you still insert a previous Windows disc during the install?
#1.5 zerbe on 25 Jun 2009 - 18:04
unknownsoldierX said,
Xero said,
Just because its an upgrade doesn't mean you can't do a clean install. Just means you're required to have a previous version of windows installed before. Not sure if it matters between XP or Vista though.

Still a little expensive for my tastes, maybe I can get my office to get it for me to try. Anyone know when the RC expires?


Do you actually need a previous version installed, or can you still insert a previous Windows disc during the install?


I forget what version of windows it was, but you could have a clean drive, instal the upgrade and at some point it would ask for the previous version of windows cd to be inserted...it would scan it to make sure it was valid and then continue on with the install. So maybe w7 will be the same way, I hope so if I can get in on the pre-order.
#1.6 Tanshin on 25 Jun 2009 - 18:08
I would think it would require the product key of the previous version.

They aren't going to require an upgrade install because people clean install frequently when the have problems. People wouldn't buy it if they had to install Vista, then install Windows 7 after. It's a waste of time.
#1.7 Pam14160 on 25 Jun 2009 - 19:31
Both XP and Win 2000 allowed you to upgrade by putting in a previous version of windows. If you had dual CD/DVD Roms you could put the OS you were going to install in the first drive, and the older OS in the second drive and it would upgrade automatically. Sure miss the old days. And, no you didn't need the previous version's key; remember 95 and 3.xx didn't have keys.
#1.8 excalpius on 25 Jun 2009 - 19:36
I'm surprised that so many machines are failing to upgrade (or even clean install) with even the latest pre-RTM versions. I REALLY hope this can be addressed in the last few builds over the next couple of weeks. If not, this is going to be a HUGE black eye for what has otherwise been a fantastic new OS rollout.
#1.9 freeeekyyy on 26 Jun 2009 - 23:07
Pam14160 said,
Both XP and Win 2000 allowed you to upgrade by putting in a previous version of windows. If you had dual CD/DVD Roms you could put the OS you were going to install in the first drive, and the older OS in the second drive and it would upgrade automatically. Sure miss the old days. And, no you didn't need the previous version's key; remember 95 and 3.xx didn't have keys.



I'm pretty sure windows 95 had product keys.
(1 reply) #2 Farchord on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:25
Hmmm $259 for ultimate...

Windows 7 Home Premium, here I come
#2.1 ThaCrip on 26 Jun 2009 - 02:08
yeah Home Premium for $49.99 is hard to complain about

does that mean it's just as good as "Vista Home Premium"?
(2 replies) #3 Examinus on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:29
The pre-order prices are good, but I want OEM prices.
#3.1 Pam14160 on 25 Jun 2009 - 19:32
+1 - where did I put my check book.
#3.2 Lord Ba'al on 25 Jun 2009 - 19:56
+1

Plus Oem doesn't have any funny restrictions like the Upgrade versions, where you need to have installed a Windows before being able to upgrade.
(5 replies) #4 +AltecXP on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:31
Those "pre order" prices are for UPGRADES.
#4.1 Marshalus on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:31
Correct, as is stated in the article...

"Pre-Order Upgrades:
Home Premium - $49.99
Professional - $99.99"
#4.2 +AltecXP on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:35
Yes, but many in the thread think its for Full as someone said it is pricing for Full.
#4.3 Examinus on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:36
AltecXP said,
Yes, but many in the thread think its for Full as someone said it is pricing for Full.


Who said that?
#4.4 +AltecXP on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:38
Examinus said,
Who said that?


Jeff_MSWindows
#4.5 +dead.cell on 25 Jun 2009 - 20:24
1 != all
(1 reply) #5 DSLJay on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:32
Looks pretty sweet. I just wonder if you can do a clean install with the upgrade DVDs if you have Vista because I like my systems clean.
#5.1 ThaCrip on 26 Jun 2009 - 02:39
exactly! , because without being able to clean install it would be useless to pay 49.99 for Windows 7 Home Premium.
(1 reply) #6 PsykX on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:34
Generally less expensive than Vista, this is great IMO, but prices could have been better. I mean, they should have dropped in all aspects. It's not like 7 took as long as Vista to make... I think it didn't take the quarter of the time. Vista's pricing kinda made sense (even if really expensive) because it took them years and years of coding.

Anyways, I know I will end up installing both Snow Leopard and WIndows 7 on my iMac as soon as they're released. I'm fed up with Vista, and Snow Leopard will cost like nothing to me.
#6.1 artfuldodga on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:44
snow leopard would cost me 3000$ canadian...
i'll be grabbing ultimate this time around, at least 7 should last for more than a few years, after 5-10 years should be worth the cash

those that can't afford the higher price tag have upgrade options
(2 replies) #7 DrScouse on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:36
Think I will "evaluate", and get myself a technet sub
#7.1 SirEvan on 25 Jun 2009 - 16:55
that would make the most sense. Considering Ultimate is 319$....a new technet subscription is only a few $ more than that, and you get access to everything.
#7.2 +Chrono951 on 26 Jun 2009 - 02:00
I just received an email from Technet saying I could buy a sub for $249 for a limited time.
(5 replies) #8 lawtai on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:40
If I want to do a clean install instead of an upgrade, do I need to get the full version or will I be ok just getting the upgrade version. I have a retail CD for Vista Ultimate currently.
#8.1 Marshalus on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:44
In the past you could insert the previous CD media at some point to verify that you owned it, I'm honestly not sure how it works now as I've not used upgrade media since XP.
#8.2 paokun on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:52
For a clean install you'll need the full version.
Otherwise you have to install Vista and run the upgrade DVD when Vista boots up for the first time, but this won't be a clean install.
#8.3 lawtai on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:54
paokun said,
For a clean install you'll need the full version.
Otherwise you have to install Vista and run the upgrade DVD when Vista boots up for the first time, but this won't be a clean install.

#8.4 lawtai on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:55
hmm, that somewhat stinks to have to go through and install vista completely first before upgrading...
#8.5 +Brandon Live on 25 Jun 2009 - 17:22
I *believe* the way it works is you can do a full / clean install from the upgrade disc, but the system will need to already have Windows XP or Vista on it. But you can do the install to another partition, or to the same one and it will move all your Windows, Program Files, Users, etc into the Windows.old folder.
(5 replies) #9 +stifler6478 on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:43
You can still purchase an upgrade if you're using XP, right?
#9.1 Boxster17 on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:52
Yes, I believe if you currently have either Vista or XP installed then you're able to use the upgrade option.
#9.2 lee26 on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:21
You can't upgrade from xp to windows 7.
#9.3 Fish on 25 Jun 2009 - 17:23
lee26 said,
You can't upgrade from xp to windows 7.

You can't to an "in place" upgrade from XP to 7, but you can do a clean install of 7 and provide the XP media during installation.

With XP so firmly entrenched, Microsoft would be foolish not to offer [i]some[i/] upgrade path from XP.
#9.4 +Brandon Live on 25 Jun 2009 - 17:24
If you have XP you can buy the Upgrade version, yes. You'll just need to use the migration tool, do a new install, and then migrate back. Or you can just do the full install on the same drive (*not* formatting it) and then copy what you need out of the Windows.old folder.
#9.5 excalpius on 25 Jun 2009 - 19:38
OR you can upgrade from XP to Vista (using any Vista DVD), NOT register Vista, and then upgrade from Vista to your Registered Windows 7, assuming that your system meets the specs for Vista and/or 7, of course.

That way you can keep your programs and settings, etc.
(4 replies) #10 dancedar on 25 Jun 2009 - 14:55
Microsoft are second to only Adobe for awful UK/EU pricing - since when did $49.99 equate anywhere near to £49.99.
#10.1 lee26 on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:23
They did the same with vista and just stuck a pound sign in front of the price instead of converting it. Pretty poor business but that's why we call this crappy country rip-off britain.
#10.2 GP007 on 25 Jun 2009 - 16:13
Where does it say they should convert it to the current exchange rate? For the most part I don't think any company does that.
#10.3 Lord Ba'al on 25 Jun 2009 - 19:59
dancedar said,
Microsoft are second to only Adobe for awful UK/EU pricing - since when did $49.99 equate anywhere near to �49.99.

Yes, it's really nasty that we always get ripped off there.
#10.4 +dead.cell on 25 Jun 2009 - 20:29
Costs a lot to add those extra letter 'u's.
(7 replies) #11 daz411 on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:02
I'm still confused about this special pricing upgrade offer for Windows 7. What if I have 32bit Vista installed now and I want to upgrade to 64bit Windows 7 using this offer? Can I do a clean install?
#11.1 zeke009 on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:19
daz411 said,
I'm still confused about this special pricing upgrade offer for Windows 7. What if I have 32bit Vista installed now and I want to upgrade to 64bit Windows 7 using this offer? Can I do a clean install?

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...f5-00f0ee7fe0fb

Check out that file from MS detailing some upgrade paths. But it states that upgrading from 32bit to 64bit is not possible.
#11.2 daz411 on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:28
Cool thanks!! I'm just still wondering if you can do a clean install with these upgrade versions? I guess thats the million dollar question.
#11.3 zeke009 on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:30
daz411 said,
Cool thanks!! I'm just still wondering if you can do a clean install with these upgrade versions? I guess thats the million dollar question.

I see, you mean that little "trick" we were able to do with the Vista upgrade to get a clean install.
#11.4 zeke009 on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:54
zeke009 said,
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...f5-00f0ee7fe0fb

Check out that file from MS detailing some upgrade paths. But it states that upgrading from 32bit to 64bit is not possible.

Oh my, I'm quoting myself... here is a web version of the document linked above.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library...579(WS.10).aspx
#11.5 geoken on 25 Jun 2009 - 17:07
So ultimate users can only upgrade to Win 7 Ultimate?

#11.6 +Brandon Live on 25 Jun 2009 - 17:34
There's no "trick" necessary. I *think* you should be able to use an upgrade disc to go from 32-bit to 64-bit, but it will need to be a clean install (same as upgrading from XP). I'll try to get some clarification on that though.
#11.7 excalpius on 25 Jun 2009 - 19:40
geoken said,
So ultimate users can only upgrade to Win 7 Ultimate?


And you get to lose all the of Ultimate Extras you paid for in the process (since they don't exist in Windows 7 Ultimate apparently). What a bargain! 8P
#12 zeke009 on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:09
No special pre-order upgrade price for Ultimate? Bummer. I'll probably buy the upgrade to Win7 Professional for my wife's machine and review the features chart when it's finalized for Win7 to see if there is anything special to Ultimate.

Purchasing Vista Home Premium for $99 and then upgrading to Win7 Home Premium for another $50 is a tolerable expense.
#13 +aniv on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:16
I think the title needs to say " Microsoft annou(n)ces Windows 7 pricing, special preorder price"
(9 replies) #14 lee26 on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:25
I can't believe the number of people asking if you can clean install using an upgrade only disc.

The words upgrade only should be an obvious answer to that question.
#14.1 Izlude on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:30
lee26 said,
I can't believe the number of people asking if you can clean install using an upgrade only disc.

The words upgrade only should be an obvious answer to that question.


http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvi...grade_clean.asp

not sure if win7 will do that, but i remember this news was all over the place. ppl wuz happi
#14.2 zeke009 on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:31
lee26 said,
I can't believe the number of people asking if you can clean install using an upgrade only disc.

The words upgrade only should be an obvious answer to that question.
The same was said for Vista. But you could clean install Vista with an upgrade disc, not enter a key, then run your upgrade again from Vista and then your upgrade product key would work. Essentially you were upgrading your fresh install of Vista to the same exact thing.
#14.3 +stifler6478 on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:32
You can clean install XP with an XP Upgrade disc...
#14.4 daz411 on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:33
The reason I ask is because Microsoft is saying that XP users are also eligible for an upgrade but we all know you can't upgrade XP - 7 unless you do a Clean install. This is quote from the FAQ page:

Microsoft designed Windows 7 Upgrade media for Windows Vista. A customer with Windows XP can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade media but must back up their files, clean install, and then reinstall their applications.


#14.5 Joshie on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:33
You can't believe, eh? Even though in the past people have been able to do clean installs with upgrade discs? And even though Vista had a trick to use an upgrade SKU for a clean install? I think it's a pretty valid question.
#14.6 slayerx02 on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:39
yeah in the past you could boot up with an upgrade disk and perform a clean install. Itll just prompt you to insert a previous version's disk to verify that you have a previous version of windows eligible for an upgrade. I want to know if you can do this with windows 7 (winxp > win7)
#14.7 +Brandon Live on 25 Jun 2009 - 17:36
I don't know if you can boot up to one or not, but if you insert the Upgrade disc into an XP or Vista machine, it should give you two options (Upgrade or Custom Install - the latter is a clean install). From an XP machine, the Upgrade option will be greyed out.
#14.8 +dead.cell on 25 Jun 2009 - 20:30
I can't believe someone would bitch about others asking questions.
#14.9 Sigmatic.Minor on 27 Jun 2009 - 02:49
lee26 said,
I can't believe the number of people asking if you can clean install using an upgrade only disc.

The words upgrade only should be an obvious answer to that question.


Well its not, because you CAN do a clean install using the upgrade only disks.
Do some research before you bitch about others asking questions please
(1 reply) #15 HardSide on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:38
Resonable prices, definately gonna buy it. Now just gotta read the good and bads of x64 and make my decision.
#15.1 zeke009 on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:46
HardSide said,
Resonable prices, definately gonna buy it. Now just gotta read the good and bads of x64 and make my decision.

I'm 100% onboard the 64bit bandwagon, I just need to see a final feature comparison to make my decision on which version.

At this time, it looks like Windows 7 Home Premium is my choice if the chart at My Digital Life is accurate.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/02/07/w...res-comparison/

Hopefully they haven't found some trick to defeat clean installs with upgrade media, I hate in place upgrades and prefer a clean slate. Yes, it's more work... but worth it in the long run.
(1 reply) #16 br0adband on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:38
Still too much, for every version. I was hoping for much less, but alas, it seems Microsoft still has much to learn. Sad... because lower prices than what they've announced would have made Windows 7 a solid winner in all possible ways.

It's the best thing they've ever created, really, but it's just not worth those prices.
#16.1 C_Guy on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:42
Then vote with your wallet by not buying it.

Somehow I am guessing that Microsoft did their homework into setting a price and know what they are doing.
#17 +Techno_Funky on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:39
Damn just realized the pre-order are only upgrades, anyways now I am confused whether I should wait for DELL upgrade or should go for these Pre-Order upgrades.
(1 reply) #18 C_Guy on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:41
The full retail prices are a bit high but overall I am imrpessed with the pricing.
#18.1 ir0nw0lf on 25 Jun 2009 - 16:06
C_Guy said,
The full retail prices are a bit high but overall I am imrpessed with the pricing.

So were the XP and Vista full retail boxed versions. MS always seems to keep the prices on those jacked up.
(1 reply) #19 nstuff on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:45
Previously, if you had a higher-end version of Windows (ie Windows XP Pro), you could only purchase and upgrade to the higher-end tier for the newer Windows (Vista Business/Ultimate). XP Pro could not upgrade to Vista Home Premium.

I checked the word document posted by zeke009, but i think that was uniquely specific to Test versions of Win7, and not the official upgrade path once it goes RTM. I could be wrong.

So, assuming the upgrade tiers remain consistent, then the Vista Ultimate customers get screwed once again. They will only be able to upgrade to Win7 Professional or Ultimate and be forced to pay $259 for that privilege. Think about those that purchased a PC or laptop that came with Vista Ultimate. They will not be able to upgrade to the $49 Win7 Home Premium.

I hope I'm wrong. Anyone have any new information regarding this, or maybe it will be clarified by MS on 6/26?
#19.1 zeke009 on 25 Jun 2009 - 15:51
I hope they clarify that as well. I might dump Vista Ultimate since there wasn't really anything Ultimate about it. Hold 'Em Poker doesn't count. Besides, charging that much for the OS when there are users with a legitmate need for the language packs was kinda mean.

Anyway... lets hope we see some more info tomorrow.
#20 daniel_rh on 25 Jun 2009 - 16:01
Not bad at all, I'm not sure between the Pro and the Ultimate version
(1 reply) #21 nozen09 on 25 Jun 2009 - 16:09
Just wondering Windows 7 Beta/RC participant get some good deals W7 pro $29 to upgrade.
#21.1 +majortom1981 on 25 Jun 2009 - 16:13
PRobably not since it was open to the general public.
#22 lee26 on 25 Jun 2009 - 16:12
Just for any UK members out there in case you don't know the UK prices..........

Between 22/10/09 - 31/12/09 Home premium costs £79.99. Professional costs £189.99 and ultimate costs £199.99.

After 31/12/09 Home Premium = £169.99 Prefessional = £219.99 and Ultimate = £229.99

Pre-ordering gets you Home premium for £49.99 and Professional for £99.99

These prices are for the whole of the EU and are all full version prices.

Last edited by lee26 on 25 Jun 2009 - 16:27
(1 reply) #23 ir0nw0lf on 25 Jun 2009 - 16:14
Some extra info not mentioned above:

* How will I get the product?
If you pre-order through a retailer they will specify how you can get the software. If you pre-order through the Microsoft Store you will have the option to either download and/or receive a physical copy.

* How many copies of Windows 7 can I order?
You can order up to three copies each of Windows 7 Home Premium and Professional with this promotion.


My question: will you get both bitted versions at the same time or get the 32 or 64 bit version and have to order the other bitted version?
#23.1 dancedar on 25 Jun 2009 - 16:18
I'd suspect it will ask you to choose which you want to download.
(2 replies) #24 DanCADMan on 25 Jun 2009 - 16:16
Hmmm.......$319 for Windows 7 Ultimate....netbook with XP home $249...WTF? An OS that is more expensive than a system with an OS....anyone else think that's crazy?
#24.1 Doli on 25 Jun 2009 - 18:03
I can find a old cheap $199 pc but that does not have anything to do with Windows 7 pricing just the netbook. You really cant take a cheap low end pc and compare it with Windows 7 Ultimate on price.
#24.2 excalpius on 25 Jun 2009 - 19:43
MS has never fixed their retail pricing model when it comes to the differences between the 1980s and today, almost 30 years later.

The upgrade prices are reasonable so I assume most people will find a way to do that.
#25 Soldiers33 on 25 Jun 2009 - 16:22
prices seem a little high. looks like ill have to continue buying oem.
#26 GP007 on 25 Jun 2009 - 16:23
IMO they should've went ahead and gave all versions a price cut for upgrade and retail, not just Home Premium. Though that is the copy that sells most anyways. But it seems the Pro version doesn't have any price cuts? Anyways, they could've went a bit lower.

The full versions should've been set at what the old Upgrade prices where.

$159, $199 and $259 respectively with the upgrades at $50 off of full, so $109, $149 and $199. That works out better imo. But oh well, they probably know something more about their retail market. Still, if upgrade and retail has seen a price cut, maybe OEM prices have been cut as well?
(2 replies) #27 Tommy DW on 25 Jun 2009 - 16:24
well, the home premiu is £122 in uk (converted from to us to GBP)
This is NOT cheap Microsoft!!

I might pay for a subscription for technet at least then i'll have keys and software and it'll work out cheaper...
#27.1 ManMountain on 25 Jun 2009 - 17:18
For £234, I agree, a Technet subscription does seem the better choice.
#27.2 excalpius on 25 Jun 2009 - 19:44
Always.
#28 freeza on 25 Jun 2009 - 17:37
Ugh...... OEM it is!
#29 bluarash on 25 Jun 2009 - 17:52
This is not even close to good enough. A special discount price of for a little over a week is not long enough. Second, there is not family pack. So basically I will be paying well over $1000 for my "home" computers if I don't go with a subscription model. No thank you. I am not paying for this.
(2 replies) #30 Gabe3 on 25 Jun 2009 - 18:08
way to overpriced, how can they charge this much money for a OS thats so much like vista. yes, win7 is a crap load better OS then vista, but its still built off vista and so similar to it. it should cost $100 tops. its practically an update to vista. do you see apple charging hundreds for snow leopard? no.

hopefully the OEM is something reasonable.
#30.1 ir0nw0lf on 25 Jun 2009 - 18:13
Gabe3 said,
way to overpriced, how can they charge this much money for a OS thats so much like vista. yes, win7 is a crap load better OS then vista, but its still built off vista and so similar to it. it should cost $100 tops. its practically an update to vista. do you see apple charging hundreds for snow leopard? no.

hopefully the OEM is something reasonable.

Does Snow Leopard come in more than one flavor/version? If not, your price comparison is apples-oranges.
#30.2 SHS on 26 Jun 2009 - 02:28
ir0nw0lf said,
Gabe3 said,
way to overpriced, how can they charge this much money for a OS thats so much like vista. yes, win7 is a crap load better OS then vista, but its still built off vista and so similar to it. it should cost $100 tops. its practically an update to vista. do you see apple charging hundreds for snow leopard? no.

hopefully the OEM is something reasonable.

Does Snow Leopard come in more than one flavor/version? If not, your price comparison is apples-oranges.


Your rigth dosen't come in min flavor but you pay one cost of $130 and it a Full ver and there upgarde is far less then that 60 and some you can even get very sweet deal like then $10 depend when you purchased your Apple computer.
#31 dbam987 on 25 Jun 2009 - 18:26
Does anyone know if I could do an inplace upgrade from Vista Home Preimum to Windows 7 Professional? The upgrade pricing information didn't really clarify this little bit.
#32 +chaosblade on 25 Jun 2009 - 18:41
Can one of our resident MS people clear up the upgrade situation? As in, are we allowed to do a clean install and under what circumstances, etc. I'd really like to know what im facing here.

Have to agree with everyone here. W7Pro is the choice for me, being a more advanced user, but there is no way ill pay for a retail boxed copy with these prices. If "Clean" Upgrades are possible, i'll pre-order those copies right away. If not, Either Technet Online-only or OEM copies for less machines to downsize the costs.

Overall, Disappointing.
#33 nstuff on 25 Jun 2009 - 19:09
Ok, so I actually followed the links to the original article...

Windows 7 Ultimate (Upgrade): $219.99 (mods, please fix the article text as it is wrong)

And they also say: "Finally, as a way of saying thank you to our loyal Windows customers, we are excited to introduce a special time limited offer! We will offer people in select markets the opportunity to pre-order Windows 7 at a more than 50% discount. In the US, this will mean you can pre-order Windows 7 Home Premium for USD $49.99 or Windows 7 Professional for USD $99.99. You can take advantage of this special offer online via select retail partners such as Best Buy or Amazon, or the online Microsoft Store (in participating markets). "

And based on this information, assuming they provide the temporary discount to Ultimate, it might show up around $110 or so for the upgrade edition for the short time span? That's actually a lot better and would cause me to bite.
#34 johnnyftw on 25 Jun 2009 - 19:22
Wow, these prices are not that bad at all
(2 replies) #35 Conjor on 25 Jun 2009 - 19:25
I want to see a lower price on Ultimate. I am probly one of the lonely few who actually paid full retail price for Vista Ultimate. Seeing as how MS is considering the Vista OS a flop I would like to see some kind of a deal on Windows 7 Ultiamte.
#35.1 johnnyftw on 25 Jun 2009 - 19:28
Doubt you will see that happening.. Vista prices will lower most likely.
#35.2 excalpius on 25 Jun 2009 - 19:51
Agreed. And since Vista Ultimate users are already feeling pretty screwed by the entire Ultimate Extras fiasco (re: no more extras after the first batch, claiming language packs were "extras", no support or updates for extras), to now abandoning the Ultimate Extras when upgrading to Windows 7 seems insane at this price point.

MS owes Vista Ultimate purchasers an apology. There are already class action suits in the courts over these issues. This is not going to help.

I've loved the Windows 7 beta and release process so far, but this remains a legacy Vista black mark on the program.
#36 DragonWings on 25 Jun 2009 - 19:38
Ultimate in normal box etc. cost 1400 zł in Polish "złoty" so it's NOT CHEAP. Is very very very expensive.

HP for 650zł is fcking sick prize too...

I want to be 100% legal and want buy HP or Ultimate in normal box (here: Full Retail). I don't want upgrade, i want NORMAL standard operating system in normal box etc.

But it cost tooo much, Microsoft cry because in this moment is many pirates, but if they do this prices, I CANT buy it :/!

Sorry microsoft, maybe in Poland you can do a bit lower price, coz I'm not poor and have got good work and good money, but this prices for Polish's standard are sicks!

Sorry for my bad English.

Last edited by DragonWings on 25 Jun 2009 - 19:48
(1 reply) #37 EVANK on 25 Jun 2009 - 20:18
I'm well pleased with the announcement of the prices but a little confused. Upgrade Retail $259.99 and Full Retail is $319.99 I just done a conversion with an up to date Exchange Rate and they come in very close.

Ultimate - $ 259.99
259.99 USD = 158.808 GBP
United States Dollars United Kingdom Pounds
1 USD = 0.610825 GBP 1 GBP = 1.63713 USD

Ultimate - $ 319.99
319.99 USD = 195.484 GBP
United States Dollars United Kingdom Pounds
1 USD = 0.610906 GBP 1 GBP = 1.63691 USD

With the price being so close people will jump to buy the full retail version and not the upgrade version, under £200.00 for me is one of the cheapest operating systems I have bought in years. I paid £250.00 for Xp in 2001 when it first came out. to buy Windows 7 for under £200.00 is awesome.
#37.1 Digix on 25 Jun 2009 - 21:53
EVANK said,
I'm well pleased with the announcement of the prices but a little confused. Upgrade Retail $259.99 and Full Retail is $319.99 I just done a conversion with an up to date Exchange Rate and they come in very close.

Ultimate - $ 259.99
259.99 USD = 158.808 GBP
United States Dollars United Kingdom Pounds
1 USD = 0.610825 GBP 1 GBP = 1.63713 USD

Ultimate - $ 319.99
319.99 USD = 195.484 GBP
United States Dollars United Kingdom Pounds
1 USD = 0.610906 GBP 1 GBP = 1.63691 USD

With the price being so close people will jump to buy the full retail version and not the upgrade version, under �200.00 for me is one of the cheapest operating systems I have bought in years. I paid �250.00 for Xp in 2001 when it first came out. to buy Windows 7 for under �200.00 is awesome.


remeber tax etc on top of those rough prices too.
#38 While You Were Art on 25 Jun 2009 - 22:35
We are in the middle of a recession, on top of which I live in rip off Britain. Apparently Microsoft are referring to Snow Leopard as being a 'service pack and we don't charge for those'! At the moment, given the choice of upgrading my Macs with a family pack or upgrading my PCs, Apple's upgrade price is an easy sell. I don't want to denigrate the fine work done that has made Windows 7 a solid product but the Beta worked on my Asus P5VD2-MX/PNY Geforce 7300GS, whereas the RC gives me a blue screen of death unless I remove the video card and use Asus's on-board graphics Via chip.
#39 torrentthief on 26 Jun 2009 - 01:11
UK OEM prices please microsoft!
#40 illustrick on 26 Jun 2009 - 01:50
wtf? i have vista ultimate, why cant i pre-order the ultimate? how come i can screwed when i bought the most expensive premium version of your software. why no love for me?
#41 Crucify on 26 Jun 2009 - 02:32
Microsoft designed Windows 7 Upgrade media for Windows Vista. A customer with Windows XP can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade media but must back up their files, clean install, and then reinstall their applications.

From the FAQ
#42 NeoSigma on 26 Jun 2009 - 03:04
What is the Windows 7 Upgrade Option Program?

When you purchase a computer that is preloaded with Windows Vista Home Premium, Windows Vista Business, or Windows Vista Ultimate, from a participating computer manufacturer, you may be eligible to upgrade to a corresponding edition of Windows 7.


I'm not holding my breath. If that's all this web site is then that pretty much sucks. If it is in deed available for everyone to pre-order at a great price then I'll buy it, otherwise I'm going to have to wait for the "free" versions :p


Looks like they took the FAQ down at windows7upgradeoption.com. I guess I got a sneak peak.

Last edited by NeoSigma on 26 Jun 2009 - 03:09
#43 SHS on 26 Jun 2009 - 03:15
This is the way MS should have done it in place after the BIG MESS UP with Vista
Full Retail with Upgrade Option
Home Premium - $ 49.99
Professional - $ 99.99
Ultimate - $ 149.99
As long MS keep stick to bloody high cost people are going do nothing but pirate it as soon it is crack you watch see it never fail and min will like me will just stick to 2000/XP or move on some Linux Distributions I for one will say Windows 7 maybe better tab faster but it still bloody pig with memory even vs carp ware Vista it tab higher and really really hate fact that keep some old vista folder carp make it harder then hell to find save data folder and that they drop email Outlook Express/Windows Mail which mean you have install that carpee a@@ Windows Live Mail which make real mess in inport my backup I have had for year I been using OE (1996) and boy dose Live Mail tops crap ware list.
#44 Bioran23 on 26 Jun 2009 - 03:24
Would the upgrade versions be applicable if you're using Windows 7 RC? Like, would I be able to use an upgrade disk to perform a clean install if I already have RC installed?
#45 +Xerxes on 26 Jun 2009 - 05:13
Meh, I bet it won't be that cheap in Australia! Vista Ultimate was ~AUD$700 (~USD$500) and even if it's cheaper then that, it will still cost alot more then you guy in the US get to pay, as usual we get royally ripped off

NOTE: Yes, I am aware it's much cheaper here now but back when Vista was first released here it was around ~$700 for Ultimate and it stayed there for quite some time before finally dropping down (I just use Ultimate as that is the one I remember the price of )
#46 xpclient on 26 Jun 2009 - 08:22
I'd have preferred if Microsoft had some online system where you could input your Vista product key and it'd validate upgrades against that, blacklist/neutalize the Vista key and give you a full clean install Windows 7 product key instead of the current system which is crippled for booting from the DVD and doing a clean install without a previous OS installed. Leaves me with no choice but to for a full version upgrade if I don't want ANY limitations. And Retail instead of OEM if I want to move across PCs.
(1 reply) #47 DanJamesJr on 26 Jun 2009 - 21:04
Hmm.. Look what I've found --

Windows Vista Business OEM(s) (32+64bit) with Free Upgrade Coupon to Windows 7
$149 shipped

Which means, you can own Vista and 7 for $149.

32-bit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16832116673
64-bit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16832116676
#48 JessicaD on 29 Jun 2009 - 19:05
Xero,

Windows 7 RC will begin to experience bi-hourly shutdowns on March 1st of 2010 and completely expire June 1st of 2010. Also with prices such as $49 for Windows 7 Home Premium upgrade and $99 for Windows 7 Professional -- how could you go wrong? These prices are available for a limited time only via pre-order so I would recommend ordering yours today.

For more information, see the Windows 7 Pre-Order offer page here: http://<< spam >>/nldc8p

Jessica
Microsoft Windows Client Team
#49 Xibe on 30 Jun 2009 - 04:03
They've sold out in Japan!! crazy
source: http://w7info.com/articles/2009/06/windows...rs-selling-out/

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