Windows 7 pre order discount orders are now avaliable

As we reported earlier today, Microsoft would offer both Windows 7 Home Premium and Professional at a pre-order discount price of $49.99 and $99.99 respectively starting June 26th and going through July 11 while supplies last.

But it looks like you don't have to wait any longer, the Microsoft Store is now taking Windows 7 pre-orders at the discounted prices. Users can either pre-order Windows 7 as a download, a download plus a disc, or just a disc. People are reporting that their Windows Live ID's aren't being accepted if they try to log in, but if they create a new account with their e-mail address the order does go through.

Also, for those wondering if you're able to "clean install" with a Windows 7 upgrade disc, Paul Thurrott is reporting that you will be able to like you could with a Windows Vista upgrade disc.

Editor's Update: There seems to be some confusion about the above link to the Microsoft store. It was and is indeed genuine. We've changed the link to direct to the store.microsoft.com domain instead of the store.microsoft-ppe.com that we originally had in the story, which is still a Microsoft domain but not their normal store link. We apologize for the confusion caused.

You can also now pre-order on Amazon.com (Home Premium / Professional)

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I am still smarting that Microsoft, for their planned European launch, are engaging in the practice of swapping the dollar sign for a pound sign. Over here in the UK we are increasingly encouraged to boycott companies who engage in sharp practices and do the un-British thing - speak up and complain. What a dreadful and insulting way to treat a loyal customer base. Apple, at least, if what I have read in PC Advisor is correct, are to sell their $29 upgrade to Snow Leopard for £19. As an owner of both platforms, I know which one I will be upgrading first.

Since MS wont sell the upgrades in Europe, i wonder, is it possible to pre-order an upgrade from MS Store? Has anyone tried to get one from EU countries? It gets me to the credit card info but i'm a bit cautious of entering the stuff yet, if it wont work anyways with EU cards.. :D

I'll be damned! There's no place for country, so its US only

its really not fair IMO. Like Echilon said. I want a full version Windows 7 Professional. I dont want some Upgrade package. It is a waste of time. We ALL KNOW that with windows, if something goes wrong and the good old Restore Point doesnt fix your problem you have to do a full re installation. Upgrade software is for people that dont push their limits, or takes it to the repair guy to fix problems. again, Like Echilon said. I dont want to be installing my XP then my WIN7 ever time i have a problem. so looks like i am going to be dishing out $299USD for my full software.

Logan. If you buy any "upgrade software" that means u have to install WIN7 over top of your current OS. so if u dont want to do an upgrade you have to PAY $$$$$

Win7 Starter - (JUNK)

Windows 7 - Home Basic just like is says.. basic

Windows 7 - Premium - Recommend for most people

Windows Windows Prof = experienced people that are going to use the extras.

Windows Ultimate = a waste of time if you are just doing hope computing. if you REALLY think your going to use the Virtual Harddisk then Giver on the Ultimate. But in my experience with windows. you wont need anything more than Professional.

Looks like a good deal, apart from the fact that it's not for ultimate and for upgrade only which I have no use for. There's no way I'm doing Vista->7 every time I reinstall.

I'd like to know if I buy the upgrade version of Windows 7, while I'm running Vista Ultimate now, can I do a fresh install? I don't want to do an upgrade.

Does anyone know if I can upgrade my Power Together Windows Vista Business or do I have to buy the full version of Windows 7?

Question: I'm confused by the following feature discrepancy:

On the Compare Editions page, the item, "Recover your data easily with automatic backup to your home and business network." is listed for Professional and Ultimate only. However, if I click on the 'automatic backup' link, it takes me to Windows 7 Features / Backup and Restore page, which states, "This feature comes with all editions of Windows 7." Also, the 'Learn how' pages linked on the right also state "Applies to all editions of Windows 7".

Further, on the compare editions page, the description shown after clicking the Home Premium tab says nothing about backups, while the description for Professional says, "recover data easily with automatic backups to your home or business network."

Can anyone tell me which page is correct, and if all editions do have some backup feature, if there is any difference between the editions? Neither the folks at Microsoft Store customer service nor Microsoft tech support seems to have any info beyond the web site and couldn't tell me for sure either way.

Is there a more detailed feature comparison between the 3 versions?
The one posted on Microsoft looks overly simplified... or is it really that simple?

EDIT--
I've never used any home edition windows I'm specifically looking into things like advanced user acccount management and file permission controls. For instance, gpedit.msc, lusrmgr.msc... etc.

Can we answer this once and for all here: I do not have any copies of Windows XP or Vista anymore because I planned on buying Windows 7 after it went retail--the RC was that good. Plus, it was fun cracking the Vista disc in half. It is my understanding that you can upgrade from the RC to RTM or do a clean install and you do not need the previous RC, XP, or Vista serial or have it installed. In essence, you can do a clean install of 7 without any previous Windows copies. Is this correct?

Hi everyone, I am the Lead Program Manager for Microsoft Store. Just wanted to address some of the questions that have been raised here:

1. All editions of Windows 7 that we sell on Microsoft Store come with 32-bit *and* 64-bit. If you buy the packaged product to get shipped to you, you will get versions in the box. If you choose to buy the Download version, you will get access to download both (but you'll need to choose which one you want to download).

2. If you have chosen the download option, you will be able to start downloading your copies sometime on October 22, 2009. I say "sometime" because due to the amount of pre-orders we expect, we will need to ramp up on a controlled fashion so everyone is able to download it without any issue. But rest assured that we will be doing everything possible to make that both as smooth as possible, and for you to get access to the download as quickly as we can.

3. When you choose to upgrade to Windows 7, your "clean install" or "in-place upgrade" options depend on which operating system you're trying to upgrade. If it's Vista, you should be able to do an "in-place upgrade". Other OS's like XP will have to do a "clean install". If you try to install a 64-bit version on top of 32-bit, you will have to do a "clean install" no matter what OS you are upgrading from.

Hopefully this helps!

Hey Trevin, thanks again for helping me with the -ppe mess.

What if we have to re-format our computers? Can we do a clean install with no previous version of windows on there with the upgrade versions? Like, say i format my drive to reinstall Windows 7. Can I pop the disc in and reinstall without having problems with activation and whatnot?

Trevin, Can owners of previous OS (XP/Vista) use the Upgrade media to clean install even if that OS isn't installed on the machine anymore? I've ditched my Vista Home Premium install when i moved to Win7 Beta/RC.

Would i have to install my licensed copy of VHP and THEN upgrade?

What works in Vista and should work in 7 is you install the version you have without a serial and then run the setup from within that install. A bit of a pain but how often do you format?

I just spoke to someone at Microsoft Canada they also confirmed that both 32bit and 64bit are included in all packages of Windows 7 Home Premium and above

Well, I called 1-877-696-7786 and asked them about 32/64 bit. The rep said the box will have both 32 and 64 -bit option. Then I asked just for " MS STORE"..Rep said "NO, ALL BOX SETS". Good enough for me!

Canadians can order from thesource -> less than $5 shipping usually. $64.99 is the same price as listed above. I'm holding off, as I can probably get it cheaper, being a reseller

Was looking to order but I don't know if 64-bit disc is included so I won't be buying until I know. I really want a disc not a download.

Newegg description also states that "takes full advantage of 64-bit machines" Therefore safe to say that 64-bit is included. Well, I would think?

question...do i have to have xp home installed to use win7 home premium upgrade or can i boot off a win7 upgrade disc and do a clean install from there and just have it prompt me to insert my winxp cd?

slayerx02 said,
question...do i have to have xp home installed to use win7 home premium upgrade or can i boot off a win7 upgrade disc and do a clean install from there and just have it prompt me to insert my winxp cd?

You can clean install even without the CD with upgrade.

slayerx02 said,
question...do i have to have xp home installed to use win7 home premium upgrade or can i boot off a win7 upgrade disc and do a clean install from there and just have it prompt me to insert my winxp cd?

There is no direct upgrade to Win7 from XP. Backup your data or use the migration tool and you'll be a doing a clean install essentially.

Jimmy422 said,
You can clean install even without the CD with upgrade.

but will i need to run the installer within winXP or can i boot off win7 disc and perform a clean install on a fresh hdd...

Question here....does the disk contain both the 32 and 64 bit versions? I do not see any one of the sites saying there is a difference, but I just want to make sure I get the 64 bit version...

DirtyLarry said,
Question here....does the disk contain both the 32 and 64 bit versions? I do not see any one of the sites saying there is a difference, but I just want to make sure I get the 64 bit version...

Yes, Trevin Chow (Head dev of the Microsoft Store) said you will recieve both in the package.

I have a question - I'm currently running Vista 32-bit on my Sony Laptop. I heard you can do a clean install to 32-bit Win 7 using the Win 7 upgrade version of it - does anyone know if I can do a clean install to 64-bit Win 7 using the 64-bit Win 7 upgrade version of it?

MistaT40 said,
I have a question - I'm currently running Vista 32-bit on my Sony Laptop. I heard you can do a clean install to 32-bit Win 7 using the Win 7 upgrade version of it - does anyone know if I can do a clean install to 64-bit Win 7 using the 64-bit Win 7 upgrade version of it?

Yes, you can.

Only if you chose "Release date delivery". And you will be charged for shipping using this option. ($5.98 for me). No tax.

Its free shipping if you chose "Super Saver" but will get it way after the release date.

This is going to be another fiasco for MS to deal with. Everybody ordering from Amazon and Best Buy will be fuming when they get their package only to discover they didn't get 64-bit media. Why in 2009 is 64-bit still being shunned? Canceled mine this morning and ordered direct from MS

thats the answer I found here:

http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/pa...4-upgrades.aspx

"The second most common questions regards "upgrading" from Windows Vista or XP (32-bit) to a 64-bit version of Windows 7. (You cannot do an in-place upgrade between 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Windows.)

Yes, it's possible. The key is to purchase the Windows 7 Upgrade version electronically (preferably through the presale and directly from Microsoft). If you do so, you're given the choice to download the x64 bits. So if you qualify for a Windows 7 upgrade--i.e. you own Windows XP or Vista--you can buy the Windows 7 Upgrade version of your choice, download the x64 version, burn it to disc, and do a clean install.

Well this is terrible, what if you are not in the US? I'm in Canada and I can't order from the MS Store. I really want all 64bit copies. I might be cancelling my order from Bestbuy now. This is rediculous!!

Kevin. said,
You can now pre-order through Best Buy (Home Premium and Professional)
Pre-ordering anything from Best Buy makes me nervous. When you pre-order from GameStop, they hold a copy for you. Best Buy has always put everything on the shelf, meaning it could be sold out when you went to pick up your pre-ordered item. At least that is the case with the Best Buy near me... is it different elsewhere?

daz411 said,
I don't think Canadian customers can order from the Microsoft Store, You need to order from bestbuy or futureshop.


I bought 3 x Home Premium upgrades from Amazon.ca; seems to be best deal for Canadians, what with free shipping.

Someday MS will recognize Canada as a legitimate market for Windows!

all are 32 bit, catch is if you want 64 bit then you have to buy the microsoft download option, then you can choose the 64 bit version, very sneaky

yea I had the same question and with some searching on the web I found the answer...choose the download option from the MS store and when Win 7 becomes available download the the 64-bit version, burn to disc and then install is my understanding on how to go about getting a 64-bit upgrade

Great question! I just ordered my copy from bestbuy Canada and it didn't state wether it was the 32 or 64bit upgrade. I really want the 64 bit. I just emailed bestbuy hopefully they can clarify.

Amazing price! but I can't place the order in Microsoft store even with an American Visa debit card, it keeps saying that there's a problem with the shipping address and/or card information! and I can't buy it from Amazon because I'm not in USA. This's just great -.-

I wonder if Microsoft is going to do some of those Free contests for Windows 7 like they did for Vista. Remember the ones where you had to watch those training videos and you could get a free copy of Vista Business

The link in the story above was valid, but it also works from the store.microsoft.com one as well now, so we've changed it to that one. Sorry for the confusion.

Marshalus said,
The link in the story above was valid, but it also works from the store.microsoft.com one as well now, so we've changed it to that one. Sorry for the confusion.

Crap, i ordered one from the -ppe and one from the regular because I thought the -ppe wouldn't work. Are you positive it's legit?

This is not cool. The damn discount is ONLY for upgrade copies. So you must have vista already for it to work.

Their is NO discount for pre-orders of the full version of Win7. None.

Plus the retail pricing is the same as when Vista came out.

RawGutts said,
This is not cool. The damn discount is ONLY for upgrade copies. So you must have vista already for it to work.

Their is NO discount for pre-orders of the full version of Win7. None.

Plus the retail pricing is the same as when Vista came out.

wut?

xSuRgEx said,
i bet if the EU didn't take Ms to court over the browser thing this offer might have been on offer to the Uk too.


Preorder Windows 7 cheaply
In select markets, Microsoft is offering its customers the ability to preorder Windows 7 upgrade versions at a significantly reduced price. This is easily the most aggressive pricing Microsoft has ever offered for Windows. The low preorder price will vary per country:

US: Windows 7 Home Premium ($49.99) and Windows 7 Professional ($99.99)
Canada: Windows 7 Home Premium ($64.99) and Windows 7 Professional ($124.99)
Japan: Windows 7 Home Premium (Â¥7,407) and Windows 7 Professional (Â¥14,073)
UK: Windows 7 Home Premium (£49.99) and Windows 7 Professional (£99.99)
France and Germany: Windows 7 Home Premium (€49.99) and Windows 7 Professional (€109.99)
The deal includes select retail partners, such as Best Buy and Amazon, as well as the online Microsoft Store. This program begins Friday, June 26 in the US, Canada, and Japan. It goes on while supplies last or until July 11 in the US and Canada, and until July 5 in Japan. For the UK, France, and Germany, the preorder starts July 15 and runs while supplies last or until August 14. Microsoft was not willing to discuss the limits of the supplies, but a spokesperson did confirm to Ars that the reduced prices for the European countries will simply apply to the full version (as noted above), as upgrade versions will not exist in Europe. In short, these preorders will allow those in the UK, Germany, and France to purchase full versions of Home Premium or Professional, except without IE8, for a very low price.

I tried to order Home Premium from Best Buy (where I have $15 worth of certificates), but couldn't get through to save my life. Finally went to Amazon and ordered two with absolutely no problem (one goes on my main computer, one on a laptop).

I keep hoping that Microsoft will do what they did with Vista and give a free copy to testers who submitted bug reports, but at this price, well...as they say, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush ^_^.

Live ID not working for me too.

dang.... no discount for ultimate.....
dang.... not available in Singapore.....

The link above is a test site and not valid. Do not use that one as it will send a confirmation but not working and no order will be placed. Weird they would give public access to a test site. We have one at work for an open account procedure (my company is a financial company) but strange someone got a link to it.

I will give them a call at work tomorrow. Chances are we got in too early and did it on a test region on the site before it officially launched. Really wish that they could have caught that before going legit or Neowin did not post the PPE link so soon before checking.

http://store.microsoft.com/

It says they will be back in 30 minutes and when it's back up you will be able to:
-Pre-order Windows 7
-Buy and download Windows, Office, and games directly to your computer
-Purchase software, hardware, and accessories and have them sent through the mail

Ya but what about the link listed in the article? Some of us tried it and it worked...but what is the ppe in the link to the store above? Some of us are worried this is a phising site. Does anyone know what is going on or if some of us should be worried?

VAVA Mk2 said,
Ya but what about the link listed in the article? Some of us tried it and it worked...but what is the ppe in the link to the store above? Some of us are worried this is a phising site. Does anyone know what is going on or if some of us should be worried?

I did a WHOIS lookup on it. It's registered to microsoft, the connection was secure when I ordered, and searching microsoft for PPE brings up a article on PPE being for pre-production testing for live stuff.

Oh thank God! So does that mean we need to resubmit our orders then? We got confirmations but when I called MS they said that the order number was not the usual format for a confirmation and they said my order did not show up yet.

VAVA Mk2 said,
Oh thank God! So does that mean we need to resubmit our orders then? We got confirmations but when I called MS they said that the order number was not the usual format for a confirmation and they said my order did not show up yet.

I'd wait another day before I do anything. My debit card isn't showing any purchases anyways.

I just did a fake order with a fake credit card number and it detected the card was fake. It's probably not a phishing scam it's just a matter of whether or not we'll get our order.

Oh thank God! Kevin take the link down before we can confirm it is legit. Jimmy did you get a confirmation email for your order? Mine went through but I called MS to double check if they had it in their system and nothing yet...

I got a conformation email, yes.

According to microsoft the -ppe is for a pre-production environment. It's 100% microsoft. I just want to know if we get our orders.

The confirmation number according to MS guy I talked to does not match their format so the PPE generated fake confirmations to test the site or demand before it went live. Our orders did not go through. Mystery solved. Just placed one on Amazon instead. Hey Kevin if you could replace the link above would help any future people coming here. Sorry for the mix up guys! Just relieved we are ok Jimmy.

Hey guys seriously what is this? Where did this link come from? Can we somehow confirm the legitimacy of this otherwise I have to make some phone calls to Visa....

The reply email with the confirmation has links in it going to the official microsoft store and the domain is microsoftstore.com

Weird, if you hit "Sign in using enhanced security" the page is then secure and signed by Microsoft. I guess it may be legit.

That does seem suspicious, along with the fact you can't sign in. Weird.

ALERT: The Live ID Login page does not show up as a secure page. This could be totally fake.

Chrono951 said,
That does seem suspicious, along with the fact you can't sign in. Weird.

ALERT: The Live ID Login page does not show up as a secure page. This could be totally fake.


Oh crap, don't tell me i just got scammed.

Jimmy422 said,
Wait, why is the site store.microsoft-ppe.com? What's the PPE for?

Just get it from Amazon.com ... even Newegg has it now (or they just posted a Facebook link about it) ...

The upgrade matrix says Ultimate users can't upgrade to premium or pro. Is this correct? I think it's only referring to in-place upgrades but I don't want to buy it then have it reject my Vista Ultimate key when I try and do a fresh install.

If you are doing a fresh install, you don't need your Vista key. You need to install 7, then upgrade 7 to 7 to use the upgrade key.

geoken said,
The upgrade matrix says Ultimate users can't upgrade to premium or pro. Is this correct? I think it's only referring to in-place upgrades but I don't want to buy it then have it reject my Vista Ultimate key when I try and do a fresh install.

I would like to know about this as well.

I forget where I read this (but it was a reputable source if I remember correctly), you can only do an upgrade to a higher or equally-the-same version of Windows 7 as Windows Vista. For example, Ultimate can only be upgraded to W7 Ultimate, but Vista Home Basic could be upgraded to anything but Starter.

Supposedly, this is because the installer cannot uninstall Vista features when upgrading, so an Vista Ultimate can't be upgraded to a W7 Home Basic because then it would have issues with the Remote Desktop (server) feature because Home Basic doesn't have that.

What worked in Vista (at least before SP2, I do not know if it works on an SP2 integrated disc) was to install the Vista version you have without a CD key (it says you can enter it in later) and once you get to your desktop, upgrade that install. Don't know if it works in Vista SP2 discs or if it will work in Windows 7 discs.

The upgrade "trick" isn't necessary...

* Currently running Windows XP
Microsoft designed Windows 7 Upgrade media for Windows Vista. Customers with Windows XP can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade versions but must back up their files, clean install, and then reinstall their applications.


* Currently running Windows Vista
Customers with Windows Vista can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade versions. You can do a clean install (back up your files, clean install, and then reinstall your applications) or an in-place upgrade (Windows 7 installs over Windows Vista).

I installed the RC on top of Vista and it's worked fine for me. Unfortunately I'll have to clean install the final.

GreyWolfSC said,
The upgrade "trick" isn't necessary...

I installed the RC on top of Vista and it's worked fine for me. Unfortunately I'll have to clean install the final. :(


Awesome. No hacking to do the in-place clean install.

7 Home Premium for $50. Amazing.

Do they have a final feature chart available yet? Wondering if they are going to try that Ultimate Extra gimick again. Thankfully I got my Vista Ultimate from a TechNet event.

I ordered one of each, professional for my main. Home Premium can't host remote desktop and I do use that through my windows home server. The laptop in my house can have Home Premium just fine and includes more than enough for the average (and even pro ) user. I would of just done home premium if I didn't have a specific need for professional.

zeke009 said,
Do they have a final feature chart available yet? Wondering if they are going to try that Ultimate Extra gimick again. Thankfully I got my Vista Ultimate from a TechNet event.

Nope, they won't. There are no Ultimate Extras this time.

Since they're all including the previous edition's feature set this time, Windows 7 Professional should be enough for most IMHO. It has both the pro features and home features of Windows Vista Ultimate, with a few exceptions, with BitLocker lacking perhaps the major feature missing. However, TrueCrypt is both better and free.