Now that Windows 7 pre-orders are being sold for a big discount, Computer World is reporting that buyers are flocking to take advantage of these discounts, and that Windows 7 pre-orders already claimed Amazon's top sales spots for software.As of 1:30 PM ET, Windows 7 Home Premium, selling for $49.99 has claimed the number one spot of Amazon's bestseller list, while the Professional edition, selling for $99.99 has claimed the number two spot, and the Ultimate edition, selling for $219.99, and not having a discount claimed the number four spot.
The pre-order deals starts today, and goes through July 11 or while supplies last. Microsoft has declined to comment on what kind of cap it had in mind for these pre-order discounts. Customers in the US can pre-order Windows 7 from the Microsoft Store, Amazon.com, Best Buy, Frys, Newegg, Office Depot and Tiger Direct. Customers in Canada can pre-order from Microsoft, Amazon.com, Best Buy, Future Shop, London Drugs, Staples and The Source. Most of these stores are even including free shipping and will deliver Windows 7 on release day, which is October 22nd.
Microsoft has said that Windows 7 upgrades can be purchased and used by users running Windows Vista, Windows XP and even Windows 2000. However, Windows 2000 and XP users must do a clean install of the OS, while Vista users can do an in-place upgrade.
Analysts have criticized Windows 7's pricing, but are praising the pre-order discounts. "The $49 initial price is a nice reward for loyal customers. But the 'real' upgrade pricing is way off for what the market will likely bear, especially during these economic times." said Michael Gartenberg, an analyst with Interpret.
I meant more on the lines of......in the future If I wanted to reformat, would I really have to install Windows XP before installing Windows 7 or is it giong to allow me to insert a previous version of Windows to verify my upgrade.
Yea, you would have to install XP and then install Windows 7 if you have an upgrade version of Windows 7. That's why I'm gonna get a full copy, or get the TechNet subscription and save some money!
Damn.. I was afraid of that. Guess i'll be going full version too or at least OEM.
* If you have Windows Vista, you can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade versions. You can do a clean install (back up your files, clean install, and reinstall your applications) or an in-place upgrade (Windows 7 installs over Windows Vista).
* Running earlier versions?
* If you have Windows XP or Windows 2000, you can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade versions. But you must back up your files, clean install, and reinstall your applications.
(Bold emphasis mine.)
You won't have to install Vista or XP then upgrade, so you won't have to install the upgrade twice for a clean install.
* If you have Windows Vista, you can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade versions. You can do a clean install (back up your files, clean install, and reinstall your applications) or an in-place upgrade (Windows 7 installs over Windows Vista).
* Running earlier versions?
* If you have Windows XP or Windows 2000, you can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade versions. But you must back up your files, clean install, and reinstall your applications.
(Bold emphasis mine.)
You won't have to install Vista or XP then upgrade, so you won't have to install the upgrade twice for a clean install.
PRE-ORDERING!
Can the upgrade DVD be installed by booting on an empty harddrive without an OS?
Can the upgrade DVD be installed by booting on an empty harddrive without an OS?
As with vista, yes. install first without a cd key, then install again with a cd key. I'm pretty sure it's been explained here many times.
Why would you do that?
Just run the installer from your current OS. You can even install it on the same drive. It will just move your existing Windows, Program Files, and Users folders into a "Windows.old" directory.
Well you could still get one of the other versions. Just because your Vista is Ultimate doesn't necessary mean you have to get 7 Ultimate.
isn't that the definition of Ultimate for Microsoft
But seriously, Ultimate has nothing for home users and MS is not about to offer discount to professional users.
I agree, actually I'd go far enough to say that many of the compelling features of Vista Ultimate are in Windows 7 Home Premium.
For example Home Premium comes with
-Volume Shadow Copy (aka previous version)
-ISS
-Media Center
-Scan & Fax (Not really that big a deal)
The only reasons to get Professional over Home Premium are
-WinXP Mode (Your old copy of XP and Virtual Box can replace this functionality)
-Offline files (Works very well in Win7 but not a deal breaker)
-Remote Desktop (Or download Live Mesh)
-Domain join support (Biggest reason to get Pro)
-Encrypted File System
You'll need ultimate if you also need things like bitlocker and applocker
Sure, you could choose an inferior version, but that's sidestepping marketing oddities that you shouldn't have to do.
Microsoft is too big for its own good. It is out of touch with reality.
Sure, you could choose an inferior version, but that's sidestepping marketing oddities that you shouldn't have to do.
Inferior how?
How is Windows 7 Professional inferior to Vista Utlimate?
if we can, can we take that upgrade dvd and boot from it on an "Empty" hard drive and do a clean install?
how about a yes or no
how about a yes or no
If you install twice... Yes. You guys need to google a bit more, and definitely, definitely read the supersite for windows 7 by paul - http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/pa...4-upgrades.aspx
how about a yes or no
It's frustrating that we can't seem to find a straight answer to this question.
It was also said that you "couldn't" upgrade from the Windows 7 beta to the RC.
Until we did it by editing a single line in a single file inside the ISO.
The question people should be asking now is:
"Can you upgrade (in place) from the Windows 7 RC to the final released version?"
You know there are an awful lot of people getting used to using that RC right now. However, I am confident some clever people I have encountered will have that worked out soon enough.
Can I install and activate the upgrade disc in more than one computer?
Can I install and activate the upgrade disc in more than one computer?
Not likely. Microsoft protects itself pretty strongly from piracy.
you can clean install. you dont need any previous OS.
1) This is certainly going to encourage greater piracy of the USA version.
2) This is both price and product discrimination - you don't buy a care without an engine!
3) How are users going to get the Internet without at least one web browser on board - out of the box you cannot get the Internet which is crackers!!
Hawk
1) This is certainly going to encourage greater piracy of the USA version.
2) This is both price and product discrimination - you don't buy a care without an engine!
3) How are users going to get the Internet without at least one web browser on board - out of the box you cannot get the Internet which is crackers!!
Hawk
Maybe its BECAUSE of the antitrust case... MS spent so much money on a case that clearly limited their product and free market practice. The general public thought this was a crock. Now they are being looked at again. I say MS should charge the EU double on every product sold in the EU because they now must take extra time to comply with their requirements. And for a hedge against future unjust suits.
Microsoft is getting tired of all the crap the EU is slinging their way so they have decided to fight back. I say it is about time!
The EU sent them a bill for something like $1.5 billion. Did they just expect Microsoft to pay the fine, tuck their tail between their legs and become the EU's little plaything?
So thanks for supporting freeware applications with the release of your new OS.
Now start fighting piracy with low prices.
As for where we would be without Microsoft? Another company would have stepped up to the plate and in fact many have tried only to be illegally crushed by Microsoft.
Where would we be without Microsoft, who hijacked the 3D Gaming revolution with Direct3D away from Voodoo Graphics and Glide. You didn't see Microsoft introduce killer 3D to the consumer world.
There was also Windows NT Workstation.
So that's Home and Pro right there. That's what we have with Win7, Home and Pro. Plus a few niche options for emerging markets, etc.
Another reason Vista failed was that it was extremely difficult to pirate initially. Had it been easier it would have caught on like wildfire, which is exactly what Windows 7 will do, though at least this time it has other compelling merits to push it along as well.
Last edited by rm20010 on 29 Jun 2009 - 07:56
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