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Firefox 3.5 benchmarked, not as fast as Chrome

Andrew Lyle   on 01 July 2009 - 14:19 · 135 comments & 16343 views

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The results are in from benchmarks of Firefox 3.5, performed by ZDNet.

The benchmarks test all the main browsers from Google Chrome 2.0.172.33, Safari 4, Firefox 3.5, Firefox 3.0.5, Opera 10 Alpha and Internet Explorer 8. Each browser was put through three tests including SunSpider javascript benchmark, V8 Benchmark Suite and finally the ACID 3 test.

Firefox 3.5 was built for speed and performance, compared to previous versions of Firefox. Firefox 3.5 performed better than Firefox 3.0.5 and Internet Explorer 8 in all three categories.

From the graphs, it is clear to see that Google Chrome performed the best overall, followed shortly by Safari 4 and then Firefox 3.5. Firefox 3.5 scored a 93 on the ACID 3 test, falling shortly behind Google Chrome, Safari and Opera 10 alpha, all scoring a perfect 100.

Firefox 3.5 is fast and speedy, but it's still lacking the speed of Google Chrome or Safari 4 in terms of performance benchmarks.








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(2 replies) #1 master2k27 on 01 Jul 2009 - 15:37
Woot i like and use chrome
#1.1 +Color Me Crazy on 02 Jul 2009 - 02:22
Seconded!
#1.2 Chasethebase on 02 Jul 2009 - 08:27
If there weren't such security flaws maybe I would [use Chrome].
(1 reply) #2 Buttus on 01 Jul 2009 - 15:37
it sure seems to load a lot faster, which is my main concern...
#2.1 Jaxkesa on 02 Jul 2009 - 21:42
+1 It is noticeably faster, I wasn't expecting it but it's good to see.
#3 java2beans on 01 Jul 2009 - 15:38
I didn't think Firefox 3.5 would beat or match Chrome. But, hey, at least Firefox 3.5 is faster then Firefox 3.0x. So Firefox user still gain from switching.
(11 replies) #4 +kraized on 01 Jul 2009 - 15:38
LOL @ IE.
#4.1 Beastage on 01 Jul 2009 - 18:35
what is there to lol about? it is secure, stable, fast (in real life browsing), full of features, has the best porn mode and excellent recovery mechanism.
#4.2 Kam1kaz3 on 01 Jul 2009 - 18:58
Beastage said,
what is there to lol about?
...


You're right, we developers should cry instead of laugh when talking about IE.
#4.3 NORR on 01 Jul 2009 - 19:42
^ haha WIN
#4.4 Beastage on 01 Jul 2009 - 21:42
Kam1kaz3 said,
Beastage said,
what is there to lol about?
...


You're right, we developers should cry instead of laugh when talking about IE.


Yea? so what specific development you need to do for IE8?? what extra burden makes you cry?
#4.5 Justin- on 01 Jul 2009 - 23:48
Kam1kaz3 said,
Beastage said,
what is there to lol about?
...


You're right, we developers should cry instead of laugh when talking about IE.


haha

IE8 is actually leaps and bounds better in terms of development tools.

@Beastage As for "real life browsing", much, MUCH more of the web is being pushed to JavaScript/Ajax driven things. Thus, "real life browsing" is going to keep being pushed into JavaScript engines and the speed of them. For example, At work we use a third party application to keep track of project management and it takes about 5-10 seconds to load in Firefox 3.5 due to a heavy implementation on JavaScript. It takes about 1 second in Webkit (Safari/Chrome). I'd hate to see that in IE. Now, I should note that the computer I'm using there is very slow. Here at the house the page loads in about 1 second on Firefox and IE.
#4.6 rannan on 02 Jul 2009 - 04:54
I make web pages for my job too and getting the layout to work in any of the IEs is a major headache. All of the other major browsers (Firefox, Webkit, Opera) are so much easier to develop for. Just simple layout can be a headache when IE refuses to follow the standards and render things differently.
#4.7 yottabytewizard on 02 Jul 2009 - 06:24
Beastage said,
Kam1kaz3 said,

Beastage said,
what is there to lol about?
...


You're right, we developers should cry instead of laugh when talking about IE.


Yea? so what specific development you need to do for IE8?? what extra burden makes you cry?

Make special code for a lot of things, where in other browsers like Chrome and Firefox works without problems, IE bitches and complains about everything and don't work.

To make CSS & JS work in all browsers it's a pain in the ass just because of IE, if it wasn't for this browser, coding would be way easier.
#4.8 M_Lyons10 on 02 Jul 2009 - 07:12
Kam1kaz3 said,
Beastage said,
what is there to lol about?
...


You're right, we developers should cry instead of laugh when talking about IE.


HAHAHA True. I just can't buy into the "fast" argument. I love Microsoft, I'm definitely a supporter in most cases (i.e. when they do something right), but IE is EASILY the slowest thing running on my machine. By a sizeable margin. It's almost unusable. Thank god for Firefox and Chrome (I bounce back and forth).
#4.9 Kam1kaz3 on 02 Jul 2009 - 08:48
Beastage said,
Kam1kaz3 said,

Beastage said,
what is there to lol about?
...


You're right, we developers should cry instead of laugh when talking about IE.


Yea? so what specific development you need to do for IE8?? what extra burden makes you cry?


Please look at the ACID3 tests.
"real life browsing" can't be taken into account because developers go through the pain of supporting IE so that user's "real life browsing" experience goes smoothly.
#4.10 Beastage on 02 Jul 2009 - 21:47
I keep seeing you guys saying IE and not IE8, I hope you guys mean IE8 ? or when you say IE you also mean IE6 development?
#4.11 liberatus_sum on 03 Jul 2009 - 00:29
Beastage said,
it is secure, stable [IE8]

How can you say that with a straight face??

Beastage said,
fast (in real life browsing)

hmm... coming last in every benchmark ever made?

Beastage said,
full of features

Ye, they are great at copying other browsers' features. In fact, they copy everything. I can't remember a single feature in the OS or anything else that was innovative. Their ability to steal ideas is shockingly good.

Beastage said,
has the best porn mode and excellent recovery mechanism.

Ye, those adware popups and home page hijacks are the best ones I've ever seen.
(4 replies) #5 TRC on 01 Jul 2009 - 15:39
Fortunately in the real world these benchmarks mean squat.
#5.1 oreo1986 on 01 Jul 2009 - 15:43
Seems true to how i perceive each browser's speed from the test results

Even though, i am a firefox users for years because of its speed mainly, once Chrome came into the picture, its speed is tremendously felt everytime i use it in most sites i usually visit and so it became my new default browser
#5.2 MightyJordan on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:05
TRC said,
Fortunately in the real world these benchmarks mean squat.

Exactly. On my computer and my laptop, Firefox outperforms Chrome every time I've tried it.
#5.3 +dead.cell on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:32
I think it was you Jordan who continues to post about Firefox being faster than Chrome on your laptop. While I love Firefox and use it over Chrome, I really feel you're still an exception to that at best. I've run dozens of tests in the school labs with various computers, as well as in the homes of friends and family. Chrome is generally the quicker browser.

Benchmarks do carry some value to them, but overall, the Firefox extensions I use make my day to day tasks much easier and save me a lot of time that cannot be measured simply with performance tests.
#5.4 MightyJordan on 01 Jul 2009 - 18:09
dead.cell said,
I think it was you Jordan who continues to post about Firefox being faster than Chrome on your laptop.

Correct; it was me.
(8 replies) #6 VAVA Mk2 on 01 Jul 2009 - 15:41
Could care less. Overall FF is a better browser than Safari as it has more customization and is not as easy to hack as Safari is (didn't it fall first in pwn to own?) I get so sick of that damn pop up in Apple Software Update that keeps coming up and asking if I want to install bonjour, mobile me, and safari. I dont have an iphone so I have no need for the first two and I use FF, Chrome, and rarer occasions IE. It is bad enough I have the crappy itunes with quicktime for windows ugggggg....resource hog...
#6.1 MioTheGreat on 01 Jul 2009 - 15:43
VAVA Mk2 said,
Could care less. Overall FF is a better browser than Safari as it has more customization and is not as easy to hack as Safari is (didn't it fall first in pwn to own?).


To be fair, the only reason Safari was targeted was because it was running on OSX, which has a flawed ASLR implementation, making exploits easier to execute than Vista/7/Linux.

Safari on Windows would have probably been a little harder to work with for that exploit.


If you want security, use Chrome or IE8. No other browsers implement privilege dropping and isolated processes for browsing.
#6.2 Jeffhou65 on 01 Jul 2009 - 15:57
So...you could actually care less?
#6.3 dyn on 01 Jul 2009 - 20:05
MioTheGreat said,
If you want security, use Chrome or IE8. No other browsers implement privilege dropping and isolated processes for browsing.

If you wan security DON'T use Chrome or IE8 (provided you're running Windows because that's the only platform those two browsers run on at the moment; there's a Mac and Linux port in the works for Chrome). The problem with Chrome is the fact that it sends nearly everything to Google (read the privacy and license statements!). Google also uses some of the Chrome users as it's testbed without them knowing (the official definition for this would be: spyware).

IE8 is still heavily tied to Windows, it makes it a very complex browser which makes both browser and system vulnerable to malware and other nasty stuff. IE is also the browser with the worst security history. IE7 is a big improvement, IE8 even more so, but the question remains if it's enough.

Moral of the story: because both browsers support some security features doesn't make them secure. It's all about the entire feature set and how well that feature set is implemented.
#6.4 skynetXrules on 01 Jul 2009 - 20:05
MioTheGreat said,
To be fair, the only reason Safari was targeted was because it was running on OSX, which has a flawed ASLR implementation, making exploits easier to execute than Vista/7/Linux.

Safari on Windows would have probably been a little harder to work with for that exploit.


If you want security, use Chrome or IE8. No other browsers implement privilege dropping and isolated processes for browsing.


who cares it is apple fault
#6.5 Shiranui on 02 Jul 2009 - 00:34
Jeffhou65 said,
So...you could actually care less?


Hehe, nice!
#6.6 Dr_Asik on 02 Jul 2009 - 00:55
dyn said,
If you wan security DON'T use Chrome or IE8 [...]. The problem with Chrome is the fact that [blablablabla]

IE8 is still heavily tied to Windows, it [blablablablabla].
This is complete BS. How is IE8 "tied" to Windows?
#6.7 +DonC on 02 Jul 2009 - 14:13
MioTheGreat said,
If you want security, use Chrome or IE8. No other browsers implement privilege dropping and isolated processes for browsing.

+1
#6.8 liberatus_sum on 03 Jul 2009 - 00:46
MioTheGreat said,
If you want security, use Chrome or IE8. No other browsers implement privilege dropping and isolated processes for browsing.


-2

Chrome yes, IE8 absolutely not! IE has been proven time and time again as the most insecure browser in existence. The activex implementation alone will get the system of john doe user infected within five minutes of usage. Not only that, but its deep integration with the OS should admonish even the most carefree of users.
#7 Magallanes on 01 Jul 2009 - 15:46
I wish to see a real world benchmark, for example the loading speed of a common portal :flash, images,css, some a bit of javascript and so on.
#8 Bri- on 01 Jul 2009 - 15:52
Although there have been a lot of improvements done to FF 3.5, it still feels sluggish to me. Chrome has a simple, clean interface and it's faster, so that's what I'll be using. But Firefox has only gotten better with time, so who knows what they'll do to it next!
(4 replies) #9 ovd on 01 Jul 2009 - 15:52
Opera 10 alpha? Opera 10 beta 1 is out for some time now and they make test with the alpha?
#9.1 rm20010 on 01 Jul 2009 - 16:14
Even trying with the latest snapshot, Opera still falls a fair bit behind Firefox. That being said, Opera's JS engine treatment is still in the works so don't expect it to win JS benchmarks until probably version 11.
#9.2 rseiler on 01 Jul 2009 - 16:25
That's a fine distinction. It wouldn't make a difference.
#9.3 +dead.cell on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:36
I find it funny that Opera's always been (or at least touted as being) quick and light. Right now though, it seems to take as long to come up as Firefox 3.5 does on a fresh start. And my Firefox is loaded with addons and a couple themes at that.
#9.4 excalpius on 01 Jul 2009 - 19:07
And Chrome is at v3.x in beta, and that's even faster!
#10 crazlunatic on 01 Jul 2009 - 15:54
this was kind of expected. chrome is king when it comes to speed
(7 replies) #11 FrozenEclipse on 01 Jul 2009 - 15:55
Doesn't matter to me. Until Chrome has the same kind of addons that Firefox has, I won't be switching.
#11.1 Greenstein on 01 Jul 2009 - 15:58
+1
#11.2 Mike415 on 01 Jul 2009 - 16:11
FrozenEclipse said,
Doesn't matter to me. Until Chrome has the same kind of addons that Firefox has, I won't be switching.

This. Ive installed it a few times and its decent, I just prefer Firefox's addons I use all the time. Opera is the only ither I ever make a switch to
#11.3 Harbinger on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:31
FrozenEclipse said,
Doesn't matter to me. Until Chrome has the same kind of addons that Firefox has, I won't be switching.


Exactly. I couldn't care if Chrome loaded pages twice as fast, I'd still stick to FF. Not because I'm a fanboi, but I couldn't live without some specific addons.

Besides, even if Chrome is in theory faster how does it compare to FF running ad-block? I'm sure all those annoying/pesky/retarded flash ads take some time to load and render.
#11.4 +dead.cell on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:37
They have like 2 as they start into their extension support. Adsweep is one of them, but it's pretty bad. A site will load up first, then the ads begin to disappear maybe 3 seconds later...

Hopefully, they'll get support finished soon so we can get some real addons.

And a real adblock at that.
#11.5 excalpius on 01 Jul 2009 - 19:09
I finally bought Ad Muncher and now I don't need to worry about integrated ad blocking for any browser. This allowed me to move to Chrome as my default browser and I have not looked back.
#11.6 ThaCrip on 01 Jul 2009 - 22:37
excalpius said,
I finally bought Ad Muncher and now I don't need to worry about integrated ad blocking for any browser. This allowed me to move to Chrome as my default browser and I have not looked back.


AD-Muncher is a damn good ad blocking program even though it's not free it's really good. i been using it for years now.
#11.7 NCalliari on 01 Jul 2009 - 22:43
excalpius said,
I finally bought Ad Muncher and now I don't need to worry about integrated ad blocking for any browser. This allowed me to move to Chrome as my default browser and I have not looked back.


I've done the same for all PCs I own. It is by far the best Ad blocker on the market and worth every penny. I use AdBlock Plus in FF on the Macs though.
(7 replies) #12 +AltecXP on 01 Jul 2009 - 16:01
Dont user Firefox and find Chrome a hung of garbage(as with all Google apps), I'll keep to Safari/IE thank you.
#12.1 m.keeley on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:09
Can't think of a single reason to want to run Safari under Windows.
#12.2 +dead.cell on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:38
No kidding. o_O
#12.3 simon360 on 01 Jul 2009 - 18:23
Why wouldn't you, though? Is there anything particularly wrong with version 4? Version 3 was terrible on Windows, but Safari 4 is pretty nice.
#12.4 Jugalator on 01 Jul 2009 - 19:15
After an hour of typical web browsing, Safari consumes about 3-400 MB here. And that's without addons on a pretty bare bones browser.
#12.5 +AltecXP on 01 Jul 2009 - 23:39
m.keeley said,
Can't think of a single reason to want to run Safari under Windows.


Ever think I run a Mac AND a PC?
#12.6 primexx on 02 Jul 2009 - 10:03
m.keeley said,
Can't think of a single reason to want to run Safari under Windows.

hmm yea, safari is still easily the slowest browser installed (program-wise, not page rendering).
#12.7 +dead.cell on 02 Jul 2009 - 13:03
AltecXP said,
Ever think I run a Mac AND a PC?


He said "...run Safari under Windows." Nowhere did he mention not using Safari in OS X.
(4 replies) #13 HoagieKat on 01 Jul 2009 - 16:02
Google's browser runs fastest on Google's benchmark. What a surprise.
#13.1 +Ricardo Gil on 01 Jul 2009 - 16:18
My thoughts exactly.
#13.2 +dead.cell on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:39
Um... it's been known to be neck and neck with Safari usually, no?

Where's the surprise?
#13.3 +Ned on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:56
Fine, run mozilla's benchmark.

http://dromaeo.com/
#13.4 Jugalator on 01 Jul 2009 - 19:12
HoagieKat said,
Google's browser runs fastest on Google's benchmark. What a surprise.

It's faster on SunSpider too.
#14 gamestargrinder on 01 Jul 2009 - 16:04
Webkit at the moment is a faster engine period. However I used Chrome and Firefox on a day to day basis, Chrome is a good, fast and lite browser. Firefox on the other hand is a beast in a good way, it was lacking features up until now, but when you add extensions off course its going to slow down some.

All in all if I need my extensions I will use Firefox, but if I need to keep a flashy webpage open for a long period of time I will run Chrome
(2 replies) #15 dancedar on 01 Jul 2009 - 16:05
Since Chromium is open course why can't the Mozilla boys learn a thing or two about it's speed secrets. And maybe, I dunno, make FF faster.
#15.1 Mav Phoenix on 01 Jul 2009 - 16:24
Limited to what their own framework can do I would think.
#15.2 +dead.cell on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:40
Two different beasts.
#16 rseiler on 01 Jul 2009 - 16:29
Can some explain to me why V8 isn't junk? Obviously Sunspider is more in line with reality.
#17 Patchou on 01 Jul 2009 - 16:33
Well, I doubt Chrome loads my pages 35 times faster than IE8 so I don't really see the point of those graphs. It's the same as benchmarking games that were optimised for specific video card drivers.
#18 mocax on 01 Jul 2009 - 16:51
Chrome or Firefox should implement IE8's live bookmark feature.....

I just want a browser that has the best of all worlds....
(2 replies) #19 +Kyle on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:01
Chrome wasn't even tested with version 3.
#19.1 Mav Phoenix on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:06
Where can you download version 3?
#19.2 +dead.cell on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:42
Set your Chrome subscription to the dev channel I believe.

http://dev.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel
(2 replies) #20 Moe on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:04
I wonder when people will understand: it is not always speed that counts ...
#20.1 m.keeley on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:10
They're benchmarking so in this case, actually, yes it's all that matters.
#20.2 LiquidSolstice on 02 Jul 2009 - 08:21
I agree (with moe).

M. Keeley, I really couldn't care less that Chrome is faster if it can't do what Firefox can.
(1 reply) #21 +Chrono951 on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:05
I still think that all these comparisons are worthless as the speed and overall usability of the browser depends on your own specific system and internet connection.
#21.1 m.keeley on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:12
Funnily ernough any half decent benchmark takes those factors in to account, like running it on the same system and Javascript not being dependant on an internet connection.
#22 Azian Orange on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:08
Down with Google Chrome!!
Go Chromium Nightly Builds!!!!

Last edited by Azian Orange on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:22
(4 replies) #23 omnicoder on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:19
Do the speed tests take into account the loads of extra time wasted loading ads in Chrome due to lack of Addons like Adblock Plus?
#23.1 Airlink on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:26
+1
When Chrome has Add-ons like Firefox does, then maybey it will be worth considering.
#23.2 +dead.cell on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:44
As I mentioned above, they have Adsweep, but it sucks. Just thought I'd mention that to those that aren't aware.

I'd kill for an Adblock Plus like addon for Chrome though. That and a "Save Image in Folder" addon. God that makes image grabbing so much easier...
#23.3 Amodin on 01 Jul 2009 - 19:21
dead.cell said,
As I mentioned above, they have Adsweep, but it sucks. Just thought I'd mention that to those that aren't aware.

I'd kill for an Adblock Plus like addon for Chrome though. That and a "Save Image in Folder" addon. God that makes image grabbing so much easier...


I haven't used Chrome in some time, but last I did, there was no 'Home button'. They could add that too. I might consider it then, but I am an avid home button pusher.

I will stick with FF for now.
#23.4 +Ned on 02 Jul 2009 - 04:46
guess I should point out that the home button was turned off by default since version 1.0 You can turn it on in settings.
(1 reply) #24 superhuman on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:29
That is not surprising at all. Chrome is the fastest. IE is not out in the dust. Too sad. M$ do something, don't you?
#24.1 Beastage on 01 Jul 2009 - 18:21
M$? are we back to 1996 or something?
(2 replies) #25 Septimus on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:34
Would use Chrome on OSX when it is released (or Chromium), but they look like such utter ass on OS X (and I look at browser based apps a lot in work as most of us are starting to) that I can't take the eye sore.

Safari 4 is good and fast when needed, but Fx just seems to offer more. Switch between the too regularly.
#25.1 +dead.cell on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:46
Hopefully, some skinners can get in there and make it more eye pleasing to those that don't care for its look. Firefox I believe has a number of skins only for Mac OS X. They look pretty damn good too, imo. Then again, I don't have OS X to be able to tell so...
#25.2 .Neo on 01 Jul 2009 - 22:15
Firefox looks like ass on Mac OS X as well. The entre interface still isn't Quartz rendered and as a result the developers try to cover it up with their own half-baked Aqua theme. Firefox' Aqua on Mac OS X is basically the same as applying some Aqua theme to Windows XP.
(2 replies) #26 darkmanx21 on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:41
Wtf? Does IE8 really suck that bad? Hahaha! It sure sucked it up in those benchmarks. I use it and it's pretty fast..I've tried other browsers on my system and it's not a night and day difference, so I never installed anything else.

Does Chrome work on x64?
#26.1 Beastage on 01 Jul 2009 - 18:23
Of course those benchmarks are bullcrap, plain and simple, they test various situations and operations that have nothing to do with day by day browsing.
#26.2 Glen on 01 Jul 2009 - 20:26
Yes, Chrome works on x64 just fine. I have it running on Vista Home Premium 64-bit and it's fast.
(1 reply) #27 powerade01 on 01 Jul 2009 - 17:49
The best browser for me is still IE 8
#27.1 ThaCrip on 02 Jul 2009 - 06:12
powerade01 said,
The best browser for me is still IE 8


well if you don't use extensions (for Firefo etc ... then IE is still a good all around choice since in general 'it just works'.

but if your like many who got to used to the extensions Firefox offers then using another browser ain't a realistic option for us.

there's pretty much 2 extensions i would rather no go without in Firefox myself.... 'AdBlock Plus' (pretty much standard issue install for Firefox users ) and 'TabScroller' (tabscroller (when setup right) makes it so i can use the right click mouse button (when held down) to scroll instantly between open tabs (using the mouse wheel) which is more efficient than manually moving mouse pointer to the tab and clicking on it like you usually have to... but this extension will be only valuable to people who have many tabs open most of the time like i do)
#28 Growled on 01 Jul 2009 - 18:16
I have decided to stick with Chrome. It is fast and I like the way pages render it it. I once was a huge FF fan but I'm not so much of one any more.
#29 xpclient on 01 Jul 2009 - 18:21
As if speed is the only thing that matters. Google Chrome and Safari horribly lack several standard features, IE lacks standards, at present Firefox with its addon ecosystem is like Windows. Complete choice, full-featured experience, unique addons. I though still use IE8.
#30 Beastage on 01 Jul 2009 - 18:27
I said it before and I will say it again, these benchmarks represent nothing to do with day by day browsing.

Never did I notice IE8, Firefox or Opera to reach cpu usage figures like Chrome/Safari which peak at 80%-90% (on a quadcore) , there is absolutely no reason for browsers to eat so many CPU resources in the name of quick performance which they fail to deliver anyway (above competition) .

Here is something worth thinking about, WebKit browsers consume CPU and there for consume more electricity... millions of computers = millions of wasted watts.
#31 freeza on 01 Jul 2009 - 18:39
IE8 FTW!!!!
(4 replies) #32 i_was_here on 01 Jul 2009 - 18:46
Please enable "javascript.options.jit.chrome" in Firefox 3.5 and benchmark again. I think it might make a difference.
#32.1 excalpius on 01 Jul 2009 - 19:13
I think that's enabled by default in 3.5, yes?
#32.2 Jugalator on 01 Jul 2009 - 19:17
excalpius said,
I think that's enabled by default in 3.5, yes?

Actually no, not here at least.
#32.3 i_was_here on 01 Jul 2009 - 19:50
excalpius said,
I think that's enabled by default in 3.5, yes?

javascript.options.jit.content IS enabled but not javascript.options.jit.chrome
#32.4 +AltecXP on 01 Jul 2009 - 23:57
i_was_here said,
Please enable "javascript.options.jit.chrome" in Firefox 3.5 and benchmark again. I think it might make a difference.

SunSpider
With .chrome: 1133.4ms +/- 0.8%
without .chrome: 1131.0ms +/- 1.2%
#33 R3zZo on 01 Jul 2009 - 18:51
IE8 LOL Edition.
#34 Jugalator on 01 Jul 2009 - 19:11
True that, although that was known since around beta 4 when TraceMonkey entered the branch.

And indeed, the added speed from Chrome can be felt as well.

But Firefox simply has too many good features and extensions for me to disregard that.
#35 paokun on 01 Jul 2009 - 19:16
I use different browsers from time to time, but Chrome rules for me.
(1 reply) #36 jesse on 01 Jul 2009 - 19:26
man you really gotta hand it to google, they jump into a game people have been playing for years, and just wipe away the competition. a little bit more customization in chrome, and I think you'll see a lot of people switching over
#36.1 LiquidSolstice on 02 Jul 2009 - 08:20
Wipe away the competition?

You're hilarious.

Google fanboys are a dime a dozen-dozen these days.
#37 JuanManuel on 01 Jul 2009 - 19:30
I love HTML 5 video tag.
#38 ajua on 01 Jul 2009 - 19:54
Firefox 3.5 is a lot faster, which matters to the people, like me, that prefer Firefox over other browsers.

Its not a horse race. Not only has to do with speed. I like personalization, extensions, among other things. However, all this competition will lead to better browsers for all the tastes which is a good thing.
#39 Glen on 01 Jul 2009 - 20:31
As shown in the benchmarks, it's about twice as fast over the previous version which is quite noticeable. I've also noticed quite a difference in the launch time as well, which is very nice.
(1 reply) #40 Deaf_Raiders on 01 Jul 2009 - 20:39
It has always been speed for me, Chrome all the way for me - despite the lacking of add-ons
#40.1 paokun on 01 Jul 2009 - 22:07
Deaf_Raiders said,
It has always been speed for me, Chrome all the way for me - despite the lacking of add-ons


+1
(1 reply) #41 acido00 on 01 Jul 2009 - 21:15
why IE 8 is not ACID 3?

I did the test and it passed it 100/100

#41.1 ovd on 01 Jul 2009 - 21:51
acido00 said,
why IE 8 is not ACID 3?

I did the test and it passed it 100/100


LOL =))
#42 helios01 on 02 Jul 2009 - 00:09
Chrome is my default browser for that reason, it's very fast. I have FF around for some websites that are still incompatible with Chrome but I use Chrome almost all the time.
(1 reply) #43 Lepton on 02 Jul 2009 - 00:20
I can't imagine browsing the internet without my FF extensions so I'll stay with FF. I don't doubt that Chrome is faster but these benchmarks comes from the same guy that showed Window 7 outperforming XP....ROFLMAO!
#43.1 LiquidSolstice on 02 Jul 2009 - 08:19
ROFLMAO you think you know what you're talking about.

Windows 7 blows XP away in terms of productivity, and that's most important speed test out there period.
#44 Baked on 02 Jul 2009 - 00:25
This FF fanboi is fast losing his love for it....

FF was great in the early days....fast, customizable, loads of cool features like tabs and addons etc

But FF 3 and now FF 3.5 are sluggish and slow on most sites I visit.

I like chromes layout and since adding the adblocker to it I like chrome alot more.........As soon as they get addons sorted I'll be saying goodbye to FF
#45 Raa on 02 Jul 2009 - 01:11
Chrome FTW by the looks of it. (Y)
#46 TC17 on 02 Jul 2009 - 02:02
Firefox still has bugs, such as the 100% cpu usage that happens after browsing for a while. Its very annoying. I have not noticed that problem with IE8.

Chrome I would use, except for the fact Google likes to spy on everything you do and record every website you ever visit for the rest of your life. I guess they have some kind of perverted fascination with peoples browsing, and feel the need to store it forever.

Safari I kinda like actually. Only it could use some nice skins for it. And IE8 isn't slow like those benchmarks show.
#47 hardgiant on 02 Jul 2009 - 02:30
I found Chrome slower when surfing certain sites.

The only thing I like about Chrome was that it launched faster then Firefox but that only happens once and Firefox stays open for hours then.
#48 SteelToast on 02 Jul 2009 - 04:48
I like Google chrome but use Firefox only for runescape, Chrome crashes when using java but Firefox doesn't. So Firefox is more stable...
#49 +Ned on 02 Jul 2009 - 04:50
#50 The_Decryptor on 02 Jul 2009 - 05:02
One useful bit of information that comes out of this, is that it shows a bug in 3.5 that causes it not to trace the V8 test suite (if it did, it'd be up near Chrome or Safari, at the moment it's just showing plain improvements to non-traced code)
#51 cork1958 on 02 Jul 2009 - 07:49
Edit:
Nevermind.
#52 Geranium_Z__NL on 02 Jul 2009 - 08:09
when i heard Google chrome had Safari stuff.. i was like.. No.. delete.. i made someone look real evil when i said that lol.. anyway.. ill keep with Firefox <3 had that like forever
(1 reply) #53 LiquidSolstice on 02 Jul 2009 - 08:18
Uh.

Ok. I'd take a little bit less speed over ad-filled web-pages anyday.

Adblock Plus ftw.
#53.1 ovd on 02 Jul 2009 - 10:47
AdMuncher?
(1 reply) #54 Sewje on 02 Jul 2009 - 09:44
You are never going to see Chrome with ad filter, since thats the way they make money! Thats probably the reason they released a browser.
#54.1 +dead.cell on 02 Jul 2009 - 13:11
Except 1 of the 3 (last I checked) is an ad remover. It just removes 2-3 seconds after the page has loaded, which isn't exactly up to par with Adblock Plus atm.
(1 reply) #55 babyHacker on 02 Jul 2009 - 13:52
This guy used Opera alpha instead of the recently released beta that came out 6 months later? Come on.

I accept defeat and all but this is ridiculous.
#55.1 Nebuchadnezzar on 02 Jul 2009 - 18:28
babyHacker said,
This guy used Opera alpha instead of the recently released beta that came out 6 months later? Come on.

I accept defeat and all but this is ridiculous.

Opera's still running on an antique Javascript engine, until they release Carakan, their now one, they have no chance at any JS benchmarks.

I ran the bench myself (C2D E8400 stock):

Opera 10 Beta 2 1615: 2587.4ms
Firefox 3.5: 842.0ms
Chromium 3.0.192.0 (19824): 404.6ms
#56 siiix on 03 Jul 2009 - 04:57
i thought that was obvious to anyone, FF is damn slow compared to chrome

i mean its day and night, duh

i dont care about an add filter in fact i DONT want an add filter, i want speed any nonsense you add to a browser just makes it slower
#57 SpyderCanopus on 03 Jul 2009 - 05:23
Increase productivity, use Chrome.
(1 reply) #58 shle896 on 03 Jul 2009 - 13:10
Since Chrome was released last year, I haven't looked back since. It is SO MUCH zippier and just plain FASTER than the competition. But yesterday I relented and once again downloaded the new Firefox 3.5 (portable edition) just to see. To my disappointment, nothing had changed whatsoever.

I love that it is highly customizable, etc.. but it loads slow and just seems downright sluggish compared to Chrome. Google has the fastest browser out there and I am totally hooked!

Their slogan should be the old adage, "Less Is More".. because in this case, nothing could be truer.
#58.1 vetJoel on 06 Jul 2009 - 15:57
shle896 said,
But yesterday I relented and once again downloaded the new Firefox 3.5 (portable edition) just to see. To my disappointment, nothing had changed whatsoever.

You loaded a portable version to see the speed of Firefox? Why not the real thing? Loading the portable app just slowed it down by like 50%.

If speed was everything, those race cars with the huge wheels in the back would be the best cars on the road today. But they're not, because they lack some features. Same with Chrome. Really fast, but lacking in features.s

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