Microsoft confirms and then denies Windows 7 RTM

Microsoft blogger Brandon LeBlanc has provided an official update on the Windows 7 release to manufacturing (RTM).

In a blog posting to the Windows Team blog, LeBlanc admits "there have been many rumors surrounding RTM" over the past week and notes "we are close, but have not yet signed off on Windows 7. When we RTM you will most certainly hear it here. As we've said all along, we will RTM Windows 7 when it's ready. As previously stated, we expect Windows 7 to RTM in the 2nd half of July."

Earlier this month Neowin confirmed Windows 7 would RTM on July 13. This was the date, internally, that Microsoft were aiming for. Yesterday the company put out a Press Release confirming Windows 7 had hit RTM. Quoting Microsoft Senior Vice President, Windows Business, Bill Veghte as saying "this morning we will release Windows 7 to manufacturing, and we write that next chapter". The statement is incorrect, Veghte didn't actually state this in his keynote but claimed it would RTM "this month." Clearly the press release is incorrect and is likely a draft that Microsoft had prepared and not correctly altered. However, this shows the company was committed to a July 13 RTM.

LeBlanc also confirmed that Microsoft has an extensive step-by-step validation process to ensure a quality release of Windows 7. According to LeBlanc "this process takes time. Just because a single build may have "leaked" it does not signal the completion of a milestone such as RTM". In recent days build 7600 has leaked with the build tag 7.7600.16384.090710-1945. The 16384 part is significant as it's the "minor part" which indicates it is a build Microsoft may be ready to release. If a minor change is made the build becomes 16385, 16386 etc.

Microsoft also provided some timings around when people will be able to get the final code:

  • MSDN & TechNet Subscribers: Subscribers will be able to download the final version of Windows 7 a few weeks after RTM is announced.
  • Volume License (VL) Customers: Windows 7 will be available to Volume License customers on September 1st.
  • Consumers, Enthusiasts, & Beta Testers (Everyone else): The retail version of Windows 7 will be available in stores October 22nd. If you pre-ordered Windows 7, it should be delivered sometime around the October 22nd timeframe (depends on the retailer).
  • On New PCs: OEMs are expected to start shipping new PCs with Windows 7 pre-installed on them around October 22nd.
The wait continues for an official announcement, CEO Steve Ballmer begins his Worldwide Partner Conference keynote today and if 7 is ready to RTM then it's the most likely time the company will announce the milestone.

Update: Just got word from several sources that 7600.16385.090713-1255 has been compiled but it's not yet clear if this is just the Windows 7 WDK only or client too.

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Whatever MS says but,

A major partner of MS, Displax have put up a post on their twitter page about 12 hours back which reads:

MSFT Windows 7 was today delivered for RTM - Released to Manufacturing - enabling Multitouch

about 12 hours ago from TwitterFox

Source

Hopefully, this is true. Waiting for the release to show up.

BILL VEGHTE: Good morning. How is everyone doing out there? (Applause.) All right. You watch that video, it's such an exciting time. It is such an exciting time. This millennium we will release Windows 7 to manufacturing, and we write that next chapter, we go after that opportunity. And when you think about the story of Windows, and you think about that story, and you all have written that history. You think about Windows, and over the world you've got over a billion people, over a billion people, depending on what you do. More people speak the language of Windows than speak the English language. And that opportunity, and that value, that incredible simplicity, that broad a set of choices, that's what you've done.

BILL VEGHTE: Good morning. How is everyone doing out there? (Applause.) All right. You watch that video, it's such an exciting time. It is such an exciting time. This month we will release Windows 7 to manufacturing, and we write that next chapter, we go after that opportunity. And when you think about the story of Windows, and you think about that story, and you all have written that history. You think about Windows, and over the world you've got over a billion people, over a billion people, depending on what you do. More people speak the language of Windows than speak the English language. And that opportunity, and that value, that incredible simplicity, that broad a set of choices, that's what you've done.

It was typo

BILL VEGHTE: Good morning. How is everyone doing out there? (Applause.) All right. You watch that video, it's such an exciting time. It is such an exciting time. This morning we will release Windows 7 to manufacturing, and we write that next chapter, we go after that opportunity. And when you think about the story of Windows, and you think about that story, and you all have written that history. You think about Windows, and over the world you've got over a billion people, over a billion people, depending on what you do. More people speak the language of Windows than speak the English language. And that opportunity, and that value, that incredible simplicity, that broad a set of choices, that's what you've done.

BILL VEGHTE: Good morning. How is everyone doing out there? (Applause.) All right. You watch that video, it's such an exciting time. It is such an exciting time. This month we will release Windows 7 to manufacturing, and we write that next chapter, we go after that opportunity. And when you think about the story of Windows, and you think about that story, and you all have written that history. You think about Windows, and over the world you've got over a billion people, over a billion people, depending on what you do. More people speak the language of Windows than speak the English language. And that opportunity, and that value, that incredible simplicity, that broad a set of choices, that's what you've done.

ms made a typo

I will hold my horses until a confirmed fact comes out that it is RTM...Until then, I will start making my sources for unattended installations and take all the rumors with a grain salt.

7.7600.16384.090710-1945 is crap. Explorer.exe restarts/hangs, corrupted audio (Could be driver issue), IE and Firefox locking up. Permissions change on folders intermittently even on the local user profile! That's a lot of fun. Try to download to the desktop and it says you do not have permission! haha If this was to be RTM I would be sad. All older builds no issues.

Mikee4fun said,
7.7600.16384.090710-1945 is crap. Explorer.exe restarts/hangs, corrupted audio (Could be driver issue), IE and Firefox locking up. Permissions change on folders intermittently even on the local user profile! That's a lot of fun. Try to download to the desktop and it says you do not have permission! haha If this was to be RTM I would be sad. All older builds no issues.


no problems here on the 3 machines I have running it. One is a main pc, one htpc and one laptop. Think you have other issues.

Phase 1, July: Happily drop everything to install leaked non-final build of Windows 7.

Phase 2, August: WHAT! You expect me to just drop everything and reinstall Windows 7? Fark that! I'll just keep running my leak!

The attitudes of people who are dead set on ignoring the official final release to stay true to leaks is kind of hilarious. I'm amazed it's here on Neowin. I was under the impression that people installed leaks because they want the absolute bleeding edge latest and greatest...but apparently the NEXT release is just too much for their poor, frail little clicky finger to handle.

Am I crazy, or did the guy that is talking now about the VMs say that Server 2008 R2 would RTM at the same time as Windows 7 later this month with availability to partners a few weeks after that??

I respect the work that neowin does, but come on... Don't be a bottomfeeder. Geeksmack confirmed nothing and their page is now removed. Even when Neowin made the report they put "confirmed" in quotes. Speculation is fine but don't report it as fact. Microsoft did not confirm anything other than a target release of the 2nd half of July.

digitalfreak said,
Was your "source close to the company" a janitor?

I think he was a ninja disguise as a janitor.

Intelman said,
They will not necessarily choose the latest revision will they?


They'll choose whichever one passes all the tests to their satisfaction.

People are never happy, MSDN & TechNet Subscribers get it before GA in Oct. so what are still people moaning about.

If they RTM and something breaks people moan if they delay it to fix a issue people still moan. People just need to be patient they will RTM it when they are happy that its ready.

Premgenius said,
People are never happy, MSDN & TechNet Subscribers get it before GA in Oct. so what are still people moaning about.

If they RTM and something breaks people moan if they delay it to fix a issue people still moan. People just need to be patient they will RTM it when they are happy that its ready.


+1. I read like 10,000 posts all over the net how people were planning on building a new system to be ready by July 13th, because they were 300% sure they were getting the RTM on that exact day. LOL

"MSDN & TechNet Subscribers: Subscribers will be able to download the final version of Windows 7 a few weeks after RTM is announced."

That is horrible...a few weeks....crap...

red77stars said,
7600.16384 or 7600.16385 or ...if you already installed 7600.16384 it wont make any difference.

Is that because they will release an update through windows update to patch the hole?

red77stars said,
7600.16384 or 7600.16385 or ...if you already installed 7600.16384 it wont make any difference.
It will if you want any Windows updates or support.

KangoChad said,
Is that because they will release an update through windows update to patch the hole?
Nope, they won't.

No it wont, cause you will still be getting regular updates. I had running Vista Service Pack 2 same way and i was still getting updates.

Well, I'm sure he'd like that, but that means today's build would have to validate for gold TONIGHT, hehe.

He is the boss now, though. So midnight oil it is?

lcg said,
I thought this may be the case. I hope the final RTM build comes out later this month!

I feel sorry for you and the other sad people that waited for hours to download all the rayfiles from the sleeping asian! XD All to find out, in the end, it really isn't RTM.

Actually, the leaked build is absolutely, clearly NOT the RTM gold.

They built another today...

Edit: This article has been updated to reflect this. Sorry for repeating.

Can't wait for the MSDN release! No really, I can' wait that long, it's killing me lol. Excellent news. So August before MSDN/Technet get it then.

I agree, a few weeks sucks. TechNet and MSDN pay for the service and should recv the product at most a week after it RTMs. They already get shammed not getting decent updated builds during the RC and Beta time frames.

Very interesting. I'm glad that they straightened this out. LOL I look forward to seeing the RTM... I'm curious if they have a new icon design planned...

I'm curious about this too. I really hope they do implement new icons. There is currently a mix between Windows Vista icons and the new Windows 7 icons. I mean look at the current Windows Media Player icon... it just doesn't go now the others aren't like that...

Jugalator said,
I can't imagine visual changes at this point.


If they don't, it will be a first for them. So far, every MAJOR release has had a new icon set. The closest parallel for NOT updating the icon set would be the Windows 98/98SE transition.
Not changing the icons would reinforce some people's belief that Windows 7 is just Vista SE.

Proof for my claim about changing the icons can be found in this thread: http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...#entry591257966 (I won't repost the whole thing here because of all of the large screen shots).

nobody has said that the leaked build will not be the rtm build. Who the hell cares, I have the latest code on my machine, its all working fine

LiquidSolstice said,
No, actually, you didn't.

All you did was find a discrepancy between two Word documents. That's all. I read your "proof".


So if doc says: RC, it would make sense that it's not RTM, right? Also, the title saying it's not rtm says that it's not final rtm, right? Right? Also, right? Right?

FoxieFoxie said,

So if doc says: RC, it would make sense that it's not RTM, right? Also, the title saying it's not rtm says that it's not final rtm, right? Right? Also, right? Right?

So you've never made a typo before?

Not the time for "I told you so" speech, some people have installed the OS and might get upset thinking that's it the official RTM hehe!

LiquidSolstice said,


So you've never made a typo before?


It was not a typo. Billion dollar worth company checks everything before releasing final rtm.

excalpius said,
+100

Wzor remain fools.

Wzor made it quite clear that this build was not the final RTM, 99-100% sure I think he said. You guys just don't seem to like the site. He was one of the first to make that comment.

excalpius said,
+100

Wzor remain fools.


Sigh... It's like talking to a wall.

Wzor always said, and still do, that these are possible final builds. The latest 16385 build too.

But why do I even say this?

It's like talking to a wall.

there are timeframes for RTM (2nd half July), there are never set dates... all this July 13th sh*t is crap, i mean really, whatever the code? oh we'll just sign off on that date and hope for the best says Microsoft, yeah right

artfuldodga said,
oh we'll just sign off on that date and hope for the best says Microsoft, yeah right

Seems like that's what they did for Vista...but things are different this time around.