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Tom Warren   on 22 July 2009 - 20:38 · 166 comments & 48944 views

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Microsoft officially confirmed today that it has finished Windows 7 and released the final build to manufacturing (RTM).

Steve Ballmer, Chief Executive Officer at Microsoft, confirmed that Microsoft has finalised Windows 7 during his speech at an employee conference in Atlanta, Georgia. Microsoft Global Exchange (MGX) is an internal Microsoft conference for Microsoft's global sales teams and evangelists. Employees have been posting updates to Twitter today.

Kevin Turner, Microsoft's Chief Operating Officer, donned the stage earlier at MGX claiming "in business, adversity is inevitable, but misery is a choice" during his keynote. It was also announced that Jim Cirone (east region evangelist) won the Microsoft Chairman award for his thought leadership on Silverlight. The award is handed out annually for innovations that have furthered the state of "engineering excellence" at Microsoft.

Microsoft also announced the investment of $9.5 billion in research and development for FY09. This is the most for any technology company and the Redmond software giant will not decrease its investment in FY10. The closest comparable company is IBM with $3 billion less.

Before Ballmer confirmed Windows 7 RTM, Bob Muglia proudly claimed that "developers are at the heart of Microsoft" after demonstrations of virtualisation in Windows Server 2008. Microsoft employees were also treated to SharePoint 2010 demos and Office 2010 running across PC, phone and browser. Later on in the day Bing was the focus with Yusuf Mehdi, Senior Vice President, Online Audience Business Group taking the stage with demonstrations of Bing's travel updates. Robbie Bach later took to the stage and demonstrated the Zune HD and Windows integration. New Windows Phone branding and UI was also demonstrated.

RTM (Released to manufacturing) marks the end of the Windows 7 alpha and beta phase and the product will now be officially supported by Microsoft's support channels and servicing. RTM does not mark the end of Windows 7 development though. Engineers will have booked their summer vacations but new builds will still be compiled ready for any hotfixes and heading towards the initial SP1 release.

Microsoft announced yesterday that the Windows 7 RTM build will be in OEM's hands "2 days after RTM" meaning OEM partners may have the build as early as Friday. MSDN and TechNet customers will receive the build on August 6.

7600.16385.090713-1255 is confirmed as the official RTM build, according to Steven Sinofsky "today after all the validation checks were met, we signed off and declared build 7600.16385 as RTM."




Image credit: Flickr and Twitter

Windows 7 announcement at MGX:


Windows 7 Sneak-Peak from MGX

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(2 replies) #1 +chorpeac on 22 Jul 2009 - 20:40
Tada, and it is finally done!
#1.2 Tatiania on 23 Jul 2009 - 22:42
I guess I'll only have to wait 2 1/2 weeks and then I'll be downloading the RTM from my TechNet account.. cool!
#2 powerade01 on 22 Jul 2009 - 20:40
About ****ing time.
(1 reply) #3 ahhell on 22 Jul 2009 - 20:41
SWEEET.
I must say, that is one bloody impressive set up they got there.
#3.1 GreyWolfSC on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:43
I was just thinking that looks like a lot of people.
(1 reply) #4 buzz99 on 22 Jul 2009 - 20:45
Bring it on !!!!
#4.1 Minooch on 23 Jul 2009 - 00:02
Ahh, you mean BING it on
(3 replies) #5 +littleneutrino on 22 Jul 2009 - 20:45
As far as i am concerned it did not matter when it RTMed because we already knew when it was going to be available for legal distribution anyway.
#5.1 Kushan on 22 Jul 2009 - 23:56
Ummm, plenty of "legal" distributions are set specific times after the RTM. Sure, you know when RETAIL distributions are, but many other digital distributions are set x days after RTM.
#5.2 kl33per on 23 Jul 2009 - 04:20
Kushan said,
Ummm, plenty of "legal" distributions are set specific times after the RTM. Sure, you know when RETAIL distributions are, but many other digital distributions are set x days after RTM.

Actually, that's not true. We knew, before the RTM sign-off, specific dates for all avenues for legally aquiring Windows 7.
#5.3 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 08:56
I think the point littleneutrino is trying to make is that it doesn't matter when the actual Windows 7 released to manufacturers, because the launch date that mattered to us was already set in October.
#6 paperless on 22 Jul 2009 - 20:45
Finally
#7 Kevin. on 22 Jul 2009 - 20:46
Whoohoo! Finally! I can't wait to start deploying the final version of Windows 7!
#8 powerade01 on 22 Jul 2009 - 20:47
Lets see the first to get it and finally confirm the build number.
(3 replies) #9 dlegend on 22 Jul 2009 - 20:47
My plan is to wait for final confirmation about the RTM build-string and then I'll download it/install/prepare it and wait until it's available via TechNet/MSDN to get a key for activating it. Can't wait!
#9.1 KavazovAngel on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:05
dlegend said,
My plan is to wait for final confirmation about the RTM build-string and then I'll download it/install/prepare it and wait until it's available via TechNet/MSDN to get a key for activating it. Can't wait!


"wait", "wait" and "can't wait"

Don't know about you, but I lol'ed.
#9.2 andrewbares on 22 Jul 2009 - 22:57
hah, mildly funny. but i'm going all TechNet this time.
#9.3 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 08:57
Well that totally didn't sound illegal .
(1 reply) #10 PayneX on 22 Jul 2009 - 20:47
Time to release the balloons and party streamers
#10.1 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 08:57
+1
#11 +Chicane-UK on 22 Jul 2009 - 20:50
Good stuff. Just built a new rig today and am using Vista as a stop-gap till I can get Windows 7
(3 replies) #12 leo221 on 22 Jul 2009 - 20:53
final build number?
#12.1 +Chrono951 on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:42
7600.16385
#12.2 lee26 on 22 Jul 2009 - 22:02
Chrono951 said,
7600.16385


nil point.
#12.3 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 08:57
This has been known for a long long time.
(5 replies) #13 paperless on 22 Jul 2009 - 20:56
They did confirm the build number: "Today after all the validation checks were met, we signed off and declared build 7600.16385 as RTM. "

http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/pa...er-2008-r2.aspx

It quotes the official statement.
#13.1 powerade01 on 22 Jul 2009 - 20:59
paperless said,
They did confirm the build number: "Today after all the validation checks were met, we signed off and declared build 7600.16385 as RTM. "

http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/pa...er-2008-r2.aspx

It quotes the official statement.

Paul said this. Not microsoft or/and a screenshot from a OEM PC.
#13.2 paperless on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:00
powerade01 said,
paperless said,
They did confirm the build number: "Today after all the validation checks were met, we signed off and declared build 7600.16385 as RTM. "

http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/pa...er-2008-r2.aspx

It quotes the official statement.

Paul said this. Not microsoft or/and a screenshot from a OEM PC.


Paul didnt say it, he quoted it.

"Today, after all the validation checks were met, we signed off and declared build 7600.16385 as RTM," said Microsoft spokesman Brandon LeBlanc in a message that will be added later today to the company's Windows 7 blog.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/913..._7_declares_RTM
#13.3 +zhiVago on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:06
exciting!
#13.4 powerade01 on 23 Jul 2009 - 01:12
paperless said,
powerade01 said,

paperless said,
They did confirm the build number: "Today after all the validation checks were met, we signed off and declared build 7600.16385 as RTM. "

http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/pa...er-2008-r2.aspx

It quotes the official statement.

Paul said this. Not microsoft or/and a screenshot from a OEM PC.


Paul didnt say it, he quoted it.

"Today, after all the validation checks were met, we signed off and declared build 7600.16385 as RTM," said Microsoft spokesman Brandon LeBlanc in a message that will be added later today to the company's Windows 7 blog.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/913..._7_declares_RTM

The article has been updated but no official source....I guess Ill believe it since it is Neowin.
#13.5 jme621 on 23 Jul 2009 - 02:04
paperless said,
powerade01 said,

paperless said,
They did confirm the build number: "Today after all the validation checks were met, we signed off and declared build 7600.16385 as RTM. "

http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/pa...er-2008-r2.aspx

It quotes the official statement.

Paul said this. Not microsoft or/and a screenshot from a OEM PC.


Paul didnt say it, he quoted it.

"Today, after all the validation checks were met, we signed off and declared build 7600.16385 as RTM," said Microsoft spokesman Brandon LeBlanc in a message that will be added later today to the company's Windows 7 blog.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/913..._7_declares_RTM


brandon does not list a build in his blog, just fyi:

Today after all the validation checks were met, we signed off and declared build 7600 as RTM.

http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/...ufacturing.aspx
(4 replies) #14 t0l4 on 22 Jul 2009 - 20:56
sweeeet ) its about time that zippy eye-candy thingy got released! now when do i get my MSDN key, MS?

Last edited by Calum on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:36
#14.1 Escalade_GT on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:00
If you read the article, it answers your question.
#14.2 virtorio on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:04
t0l4 said,
sweeeet ) its about time that zippy eye-candy thingy got released! now when do i get my MSDN key, M$?

August 6 I believe. That's when TechNet subscribers get it anyway.
#14.3 t0l4 on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:09
thx Escalade_GT & virtorio, i was just being...u knw ...well i want it now; there!
#14.4 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 08:58
Zippy eye-candy? Excuse me?
(2 replies) #15 KeR on 22 Jul 2009 - 20:59
So RC1 is pretty much the final product, minus bug fixes here and there? No other surprises? That's a first for MS.
#15.1 ccoltmanm on 23 Jul 2009 - 00:29
You are right, I was kinda hoping for at least 1 more suprise.
#15.2 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 08:59
Uhhh. even if you ignore the whole arbitary jump from 7264 to 7600, you have to be smart enough to realize that the RC is still quite buggy, when you think about how amazing it was for the 7000 Beta to jump to 7100, and we know for sure that there was a 7200.
(2 replies) #16 splur on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:02
MS should spark things up and release the build as a different number even if 16385 is the official RTM. Make it 16387.
#16.1 aludanyi on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:11
splur said,
MS should spark things up and release the build as a different number even if 16385 is the official RTM. Make it 16387.


They run a very serious business there, and not a playground party...
#16.2 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:00
Why the hell would t hey do that? That's retarded.
#17 artfuldodga on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:02
and BOOM
7 is well on its way
(1 reply) #18 ChazEG on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:06
#18.1 2Cold Scorpio on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:14
ChazEG said,
Hmmmm, whats next....

Windows 8!
#19 skynetXrules on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:10
yes !
(5 replies) #20 Matthew Waldron on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:16
Now all I have to do is wait on the webcam drivers.. Already had these builds myself.
#20.1 Kushan on 22 Jul 2009 - 23:58
My Logitech Quickcam Pro works quite well in 7.
#20.2 roadwarrior on 23 Jul 2009 - 00:10
I've about given up on Logitech for webcams. My cam that I bought just before Vista was released never got drivers for Vista, much less anything else. They seem to drop support for a camera the day after it is replaced, and they seem to release new models every couple of months.
#20.3 Matthew Waldron on 23 Jul 2009 - 00:39
Well my logitech works well. It's the Microsoft VX-6000 believe it or not. Compatibility message every time. So, for now I am reduced to the Logitech webcam - Communicate stx or something. Waiting on some drivers for the lifecam.
#20.4 cakesy on 24 Jul 2009 - 04:17
Matthew Waldron said,
Now all I have to do is wait on the webcam drivers.. Already had these builds myself.


If it works on Vista, it will work on 7, since they are the same operating system.
#20.5 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:00
Every single integrated laptop webcam I've seen does indeed work.
#21 MistaT40 on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:18
Yayayayayayaya
#22 freakyfriday on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:20
been running the final build all week then. sweet
(5 replies) #23 LaP on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:21
Stupid question i know but i need to re-install my OS soon since i'm gonna change my MB, CPU and RAM (my MB NB fan died and i decided to change the whole MB, CPU and RAM instead of just the fan). I posted this from another computer before someone ask

So if i install Windows 7 RTM instead of Vista can i activate Windows 7 later this fall using my legit copy (i pre-ordered it from Amazon already) ?
#23.1 Kevin. on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:26
Edit: Since the pre-order is an upgrade version and not a full one, you won't be able to activate it with an upgrade key.

Last edited by Kevin. on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:34
#23.2 Pharos on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:29
Yes you can. But then you'd have to buy a full version of Windows 7. If you get an upgrade key, you're not going to be able to activate it. You will then have to reinstall 7 and use the key.
#23.3 LaP on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:31
Pharos said,
Yes you can. But then you'd have to buy a full version of Windows 7. If you get an upgrade key, you're not going to be able to activate it. You will then have to reinstall 7 and use the key.


Hum i pre-ordered the upgrade boxed version since i own the full version of Vista already
#23.4 kli6891 on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:57
Yes
#23.5 iamwhoiam on 22 Jul 2009 - 23:10
LaP said,
So if i install Windows 7 RTM instead of Vista can i activate Windows 7 later this fall using my legit copy (i pre-ordered it from Amazon already) ?


If it's like the upgrade for Vista was, you can install it without a key and then install a second time (with key) for the "upgrade".
#24 +Chrono951 on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:26
Woot!
#25 jznomoney on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:40
on the beta newsgroup a ms rep said "Final build is 7600.16385"
(5 replies) #26 Dane on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:43
Isn't that build the same one that got leaked??

or am I confused?
#26.1 ilike2burnthing on 22 Jul 2009 - 21:56
yep
#26.2 Dane on 22 Jul 2009 - 22:11
ilike2burnthing said,
yep


Oh ok, thanks
#26.3 GP007 on 22 Jul 2009 - 22:16
I guess they didn't update the rest of the icons like everyone was going on about on the forum then? If it's the same build that leaked etc.
#26.4 roadwarrior on 23 Jul 2009 - 00:13
Yep, this is a first for Microsoft, keeping the same icons between two major releases of the OS.
#26.5 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:01
Update icons?

What?
#27 Gibletz on 22 Jul 2009 - 22:00
Goes to install NAAAAAOOOOOWWW
#28 g8crash3r on 22 Jul 2009 - 22:12
Cheers to Microsoft!
#29 daniel_rh on 22 Jul 2009 - 22:18
Where I can see more pictures of the event?
#30 Osiris on 22 Jul 2009 - 22:23
w000000T! Lets get our drinks on ya'll!! Party time!
(4 replies) #31 leo221 on 22 Jul 2009 - 22:36
any legal ways to download 7600.16385.090713-1255_x64fre_client_en-us_Retail_Ultimate-GRMCULXFRER_EN_DVD.iso from microsoft? i have technet+, msdn
#31.1 eblkheart on 22 Jul 2009 - 22:38
leo221 said,
any legal ways to download 7600.16385.090713-1255_x64fre_client_en-us_Retail_Ultimate-GRMCULXFRER_EN_DVD.iso from microsoft? i have technet+, msdn

If you have read the previous articles, Technet and MSDN aren't getting it next month, AUGUST 6.
#31.2 leo221 on 22 Jul 2009 - 22:42
eblkheart said,
If you have read the previous articles, Technet and MSDN aren't getting it next month, AUGUST 6.


i know, what's why asking. any OTHER legal ways to get the binaries
#31.3 eblkheart on 22 Jul 2009 - 23:24
leo221 said,
i know, what's why asking. any OTHER legal ways to get the binaries

Not unless you're an OEM, other wise... NO.
#31.4 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:01
I'm pretty sure you already know the answer to that question, buddy.
(2 replies) #32 lee26 on 22 Jul 2009 - 22:38
Bring on Windows 8
#32.1 winlonghorn on 22 Jul 2009 - 23:04
Yep, if the pattern holds then Windows 8 should be a fairly decent release with many great new features. Not that Windows 7 isn't, but I suspect maybe 8 will be much more so (probably including a refined version of the new taskbar). Obviously I am just speculating and hoping, so don't take my word as the actual truth! lol.
#32.2 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:01
Oh ha ha.

Very witty.
#33 E.Fahd on 22 Jul 2009 - 22:45
If you have Technet+ then you'll have to wait until August 6th ^^ Can't wait !
(6 replies) #34 maccik on 22 Jul 2009 - 22:56
this was said by wzor a week ago and noone belived so Wzor is a relaible source ...Yee ...!!!
#34.1 FunkTrooper on 22 Jul 2009 - 23:22
Wzor previously said that 16384 was the final build. He was *wrong* that time. Hardly very reliable to me...
#34.2 maccik on 22 Jul 2009 - 23:25
FunkTrooper said,
Wzor previously said that 16384 was the final build. He was *wrong* that time. Hardly very reliable to me...



Nope ...You can see if you don't belive it but Wzor stated just POSSIBLE rtm ...
#34.3 xendrome on 22 Jul 2009 - 23:27
FunkTrooper said,
Wzor previously said that 16384 was the final build. He was *wrong* that time. Hardly very reliable to me...


He never said it was Final RTM, he said it was an RTM build, and possible RTM. But never said it was the Final RTM signed off code..
#34.4 kazuyette on 22 Jul 2009 - 23:28
maccik said,
this was said by wzor a week ago and noone belived so Wzor is a relaible source ...Yee ...!!!

I lol'ed when I read wzor !
#34.5 omni on 23 Jul 2009 - 00:04
xendrome said,
He never said it was Final RTM, he said it was an RTM build, and possible RTM. But never said it was the Final RTM signed off code..


I'm pretty sure that if I labeled every build as a possible RTM I would eventually be right too. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure build strings out especially when it jumps two milestones -- congratulations to wzor.
#34.6 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:03
Well, $h!t on a shingle. Wzor, liek the rest of us, were off by .00001.

Someone call the fire brigade, the apocalypse is setting in.
#35 katilkurt on 22 Jul 2009 - 23:08
wzt has released this a long while ago...
(2 replies) #36 scrimpy32 on 23 Jul 2009 - 00:28
its over now i wonder what you all are going to fight each other about now ?
#36.1 aarste on 23 Jul 2009 - 00:56
scrimpy32 said,
its over now i wonder what you all are going to fight each other about now ?

Windows 7 vs Chrome OS
#36.2 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:03
Lulz. +1
#37 bluewind_89 on 23 Jul 2009 - 00:52
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Bust out the champagne people!!!
(1 reply) #38 ChrisJ1968 on 23 Jul 2009 - 01:27
now, can we quit the bitch sessions about WHAT build will be the RTM build?
#38.1 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:03
+1,000,000
(2 replies) #39 red77stars on 23 Jul 2009 - 01:35
It's time to talk about Windows 8. Let's start over. lol
#39.1 Izlude on 23 Jul 2009 - 02:19
red77stars said,
It's time to talk about Windows 8. Let's start over. lol


windows 8 (windows ate?) will feature this wallpaper akin to Earthworm Jim 2's level 8 (leve late)

#39.2 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:03
Izlude said,
windows 8 (windows ate?) will feature this wallpaper akin to Earthworm Jim 2's level 8 (leve late)





I must say, that was pretty stupid.
(1 reply) #40 jme621 on 23 Jul 2009 - 02:11
paperless said,
powerade01 said,

paperless said,
They did confirm the build number: "Today after all the validation checks were met, we signed off and declared build 7600.16385 as RTM. "

http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/pa...er-2008-r2.aspx

It quotes the official statement.
Paul said this. Not microsoft or/and a screenshot from a OEM PC.

Paul didnt say it, he quoted it.

"Today, after all the validation checks were met, we signed off and declared build 7600.16385 as RTM," said Microsoft spokesman Brandon LeBlanc in a message that will be added later today to the company's Windows 7 blog.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/913..._7_declares_RTM


brandon does not list a build in his blog, just fyi:

Today after all the validation checks were met, we signed off and declared build 7600 as RTM.

http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/...ufacturing.aspx
#40.1 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:04
FFS.


Get the hell over it. It's RTMed, stop whining.
(4 replies) #41 ignaciojn on 23 Jul 2009 - 02:12
Quick question: When Windows 7 RTM is released in TechNet, will they give RTM serials?
#41.1 AltoidBox on 23 Jul 2009 - 02:34
I don't see why they wouldn't. Everything else gets keys when they are released on TechNet, don't they?
#41.2 +Frazell Thomas on 23 Jul 2009 - 03:12
Take a moment to think about that question. If after that moment you still don't know the answer you should give your TechNet sub to someone of my choosing...

Seriously, does TechNet give "RTM" serials for the rest fo the "RTM" builds it has? Of course. Why would they give you RTM code and a RC (basically non-working) serial? That would be stupid eh? Now see how stupid the question is
#41.3 ZombieFly on 23 Jul 2009 - 08:41
ignaciojn said,
Quick question: When Windows 7 RTM is released in TechNet, will they give RTM serials?


no, you'll be given the install disc with no key. That's why you pay to subscribe to technet, isnt it? :/
#41.4 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:04
*waits excitedly for the terrible plumbing job to strike again*
(2 replies) #42 kevpan815 on 23 Jul 2009 - 02:15
According 2 What It Says On The Microsoft Tech Net Website, The Server Version (Of Windows 7) Will Be Available As A Free 180 Day Trial Beginning August 20th, 2009! What A Cool Birthday Present 4 Me (I Was Born On August 15th, 1977)!
#42.1 RAID 0 on 23 Jul 2009 - 19:33
That's a lot of capitals.
#42.2 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:05
Errr.

Learn how to type.
#43 nozen09 on 23 Jul 2009 - 02:54
This mean I'm back to using Vista SP2 hopefully i get Windows 7 free next year
#44 Premgenius on 23 Jul 2009 - 03:21
Perfect time to planning and getting drivers for my hardware
(4 replies) #45 madmattoz on 23 Jul 2009 - 03:35
"Kevin Turner, Microsoft's Chief Operating Officer, donned the stage"

How exactly do you don a stage?
#45.1 +Chrono951 on 23 Jul 2009 - 03:54
lol
#45.2 ZombieFly on 23 Jul 2009 - 08:42
madmattoz said,
"Kevin Turner, Microsoft's Chief Operating Officer, donned the stage"

How exactly do you don a stage?


easy, stand underneath it, cut hole in stage floor, raise head so it pokes through, shout "hey dudes, ya'll like ma new stage coat"

...maybe not
#45.3 GreyWolfSC on 23 Jul 2009 - 14:18
Uncommon, but correct.

"2. To assume or take on: donned the air of the injured party."
#45.4 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:05
By putting a dead horse's head next to you.
(1 reply) #46 Atlonite on 23 Jul 2009 - 05:22
ho hum the only thing im looking forward to with this is the massive price tag im going to have to pay out because we didn't get the option for cheap pre orders
#46.1 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:06
Ok. That's your problem.

You should have seen the upgrade system coming.
#47 JonathanMarston on 23 Jul 2009 - 06:06
As exciting as it is, the Windows 7 RTM was expected...I'm more interested in the "Zune HD and Windows Integration" demonstration. Anyone sneak a video camera in there?
#48 guruparan on 23 Jul 2009 - 09:03
The video of Announcing RTM by Sinofsky with Ballmer

http://www.microsoft.com/video/en/us/detai...97-97dc41d6574b
#49 chemaz101 on 23 Jul 2009 - 09:35
hmm in that video where it has them signing the cds, i hope they dont actually have the OS on which there gona give to sum1 as sign he signed both at the same time, and put one on top of the other, the ink wont have had time to dry and will transfer to the other cd which will ruin the cd, iv done this many a time
O and wooo to RTM lol
(2 replies) #50 parisp on 23 Jul 2009 - 09:37
so whats new?
Windows 7 is imply how Vista should have been 2 years ago! quicker and much stable!

Will it boom?
at least anyone that stays off to XP can now upgrade to 7, cox it better? no simply coz the whole ecosystem updated drivers and pass to play well with both vista and 7! Windows 7 is OK, however it could have been a lot more

Will it excite people?
Personally i am more exited to upgrade my laptop to snow leopard rather than upgrading my desktop to windows 7!
#50.1 ricknl on 23 Jul 2009 - 14:16
So why do you care to comment on an article about Windows 7? Just stay away from anything that is Windows related.

And as far as Snow Leopard is concerned, you can also say that it is simply how Leopard should have been 2 years ago, quicker and much stable.
#50.2 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:06
OMG you're so cool.

Windows 7 could have been a lot more?

Good. Give me a proposed changelog.
Right now.

If you can't, please GTFO.
#51 Zyxel112 on 23 Jul 2009 - 09:51
we want windows 8!!!!
#52 powerade01 on 23 Jul 2009 - 10:14
So again.......(because there seems to be a mixup)

Has Microsoft officially confirmed a build number or will we have to wait for OEMs (first to get it)?
(2 replies) #53 6205 on 23 Jul 2009 - 11:06
Just give me a torrent link
#53.1 +Tony. on 23 Jul 2009 - 11:11
*slap*
#53.2 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:07
*slaps again, just to make sure*
#54 Navan on 23 Jul 2009 - 13:00
On to it.
(2 replies) #55 tuxplorer on 23 Jul 2009 - 13:10
Disappointed they didn't fix Windows Explorer. Oh well.
#55.1 vetneufuse on 23 Jul 2009 - 15:52
tuxplorer said,
Disappointed they didn't fix Windows Explorer. Oh well.


um what exactly didn't they fix? Everythings worked fine for me
#55.2 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:07
Seeing as your username has "tux" in it, I'm not surprised that you've managed to find something wrong with Windows 7.

PS, it works just fine.
#56 sanriver12 on 23 Jul 2009 - 13:37
will be doing clean install in about 2 weeks. sweet !!!
(3 replies) #57 NoctheniK on 23 Jul 2009 - 14:17
The final RTM build of Windows 7 is 7600 and has a build string of 6.1.7600.16385.win7_rtm.090713-1255, built on July 13th, 2009. This build has not been leaked yet. However the extracted installation files including the install.wim for Windows 7 RTM Build 7600.16385 have leaked. However, the extracted Windows 7 RTM setup files won't boot. Thus, some users have made bootable DVD ISO image file for Windows 7 RTM from build 6.1.7600.16384.win7_rtm.090710-1945, which is not the official unmodified and untouched leak from Microsoft. On July 24, 2009 Microsoft released Windows 7 to OEM (original equipment manufactures and system builders) online. Followed by MSDN and TechNet Subscribers via Download and Microsoft Connect on August 6, 2009.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_o...o_manufacturing
#57.1 powerade01 on 23 Jul 2009 - 16:36
NoctheniK said,
The final RTM build of Windows 7 is 7600 and has a build string of 6.1.7600.16385.win7_rtm.090713-1255, built on July 13th, 2009. This build has not been leaked yet. However the extracted installation files including the install.wim for Windows 7 RTM Build 7600.16385 have leaked. However, the extracted Windows 7 RTM setup files won't boot. Thus, some users have made bootable DVD ISO image file for Windows 7 RTM from build 6.1.7600.16384.win7_rtm.090710-1945, which is not the official unmodified and untouched leak from Microsoft. On July 24, 2009 Microsoft released Windows 7 to OEM (original equipment manufactures and system builders) online. Followed by MSDN and TechNet Subscribers via Download and Microsoft Connect on August 6, 2009.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_o...o_manufacturing


No offense but that is a really bad explanation.
#57.2 Breach on 23 Jul 2009 - 19:05
However, the extracted Windows 7 RTM setup files won't boot.

Not surprisingly files, usually fail to boot. Duh.
#57.3 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:08
LOL That was stupid.
(1 reply) #58 vetneufuse on 23 Jul 2009 - 16:09
everyone that was waiting for "new icons in the final build" get ready to be disapointed, there never were any new icons... and there are none new in the final build that wern't already in the RC build
#58.1 Breach on 23 Jul 2009 - 18:14
Icons in the RTM build?! Hah, folks the only fixes that have a chance to make it for an RTM build are crash and other severe bug fixes. As always I am sure the RTM build has a few critical bugs, which were considered corner situations to be fixed in future HFs or SP1....
#59 DataRight on 23 Jul 2009 - 19:17
Sorry if I've missed it, but here is confirmation on the build number, with hashes and all: http://blogs.technet.com/dmelanchthon/arch...dows-7-rtm.aspx

It's in german, but in this case it doesn't matter, the build number is there....
(3 replies) #60 nozen09 on 23 Jul 2009 - 19:22
Does anyone know if the Windows startup sound is new in Windows 7 or is it the same sound as Vista.
#60.1 Quillz on 23 Jul 2009 - 19:30
nozen09 said,
Does anyone know if the Windows startup sound is new in Windows 7 or is it the same sound as Vista.

Unfortunately, I think it's the same. This means that Windows 7 is the first-ever consumer release not to feature new startup/shutdown sounds. Seems a bit lazy on Microsoft's part.
#60.2 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:09
Quillz said,
Unfortunately, I think it's the same. This means that Windows 7 is the first-ever consumer release not to feature new startup/shutdown sounds. Seems a bit lazy on Microsoft's part.


Yes, how lazy. How dare they create an OS with the stress on making things simpler, faster, easier, and more intuitive, and not change the login sound. Those @$$holes.
#60.3 Quillz on 24 Jul 2009 - 21:33
LiquidSolstice said,
Yes, how lazy. How dare they create an OS with the stress on making things simpler, faster, easier, and more intuitive, and not change the login sound. Those @$$holes.

Of course I understand that it's not exactly a priority, but it's just become somewhat of a tradition, I think, to have a new startup/shutdown sound for each consumer release. It's a minor thing that shows that each subsequent version is different from the other.

I understand how minor and trivial it is, but sometimes it's the little things that you notice. When your PC starts up and you hear the Vista sounds... It just doesn't give Windows 7 its own identity, in a way.
(3 replies) #61 daveggg on 23 Jul 2009 - 19:43
LOL i personally cannot believe this build has gone RTM...not to mention the supposedly new icons in the final build but way too many bugs and typos and instabilities that Microsoft hasn't addressed or fixed (eg. the most stupid typo I can think of right now is Start->Control Panel->All Control Panel Items->Backup and Restore, look at the text in the bottom of the window "Recover system settings or your computer" and Speedstep still cannot be disabled under Power Management even after BIOS settings had been changed etc etc)
#61.1 Phemo on 23 Jul 2009 - 20:54
daveggg said,
(eg. the most stupid typo I can think of right now is Start->Control Panel->All Control Panel Items->Backup and Restore, look at the text in the bottom of the window "Recover system settings or your computer"


Maybe I'm being stupid but I don't get how that's a typo? It's probably badly worded, but it still makes sense. You can recover system settings OR your PC [to an earlier state] - it seems logical to me at least.
#61.2 xirazus on 23 Jul 2009 - 21:22
"Recover system settings or your computer" - makes perfect sense to me.
#61.3 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:10
Um. You're an idiot. First off, that's not a typo, second, it makes sense.

Restoring your system settings and restoring your entire computer are two very different things. Go learn about hard drive imaging, kthx.

Nubstick.
#62 +Jedimark on 23 Jul 2009 - 21:26
Ballmer's reaction in that video is hillarious.......
(3 replies) #63 OmniouS on 23 Jul 2009 - 22:37
# Windows 7 Ultimate Retail English E (x86)
Name: 7600.16385.090713-1255_x86fre_cliente_en-us_Retail_UltimateE-GRMCEULFRER_EN_DVD.iso
CRC: 0x953EFBCC
SHA-1: 0xBC10F09B86DCBAF35B31B0E6FBA7D006ACAAD28D

# Windows 7 Ultimate Retail English E (x64)
Name: 7600.16385.090713-1255_x64fre_cliente_en-us_Retail_UltimateE-GRMCEULXFRER_EN_DVD.iso
CRC: 0x77BE890E
SHA-1: 0x029DCCEDD7691206010F84CE58343405A4DA92C9

# Windows 7 Ultimate Retail English (x86)
Name: 7600.16385.090713-1255_x86fre_client_en-us_Retail_Ultimate-GRMCULFRER_EN_DVD.iso
CRC: 0xC1C20F76
SHA-1: 0x5395DC4B38F7BDB1E005FF414DEEDFDB16DBF610

# Windows 7 Ultimate Retail English (x64)
Name: 7600.16385.090713-1255_x64fre_client_en-us_Retail_Ultimate-GRMCULXFRER_EN_DVD.iso
CRC: 0x1F1257CA
SHA-1: 0x326327CC2FF9F05379F5058C41BE6BC5E004BAA7

http://translate.google.de/translate?prev=...history_state0=
#63.1 powerade01 on 23 Jul 2009 - 23:16
OmniouS said,
# Windows 7 Ultimate Retail English E (x86)
Name: 7600.16385.090713-1255_x86fre_cliente_en-us_Retail_UltimateE-GRMCEULFRER_EN_DVD.iso
CRC: 0x953EFBCC
SHA-1: 0xBC10F09B86DCBAF35B31B0E6FBA7D006ACAAD28D

# Windows 7 Ultimate Retail English E (x64)
Name: 7600.16385.090713-1255_x64fre_cliente_en-us_Retail_UltimateE-GRMCEULXFRER_EN_DVD.iso
CRC: 0x77BE890E
SHA-1: 0x029DCCEDD7691206010F84CE58343405A4DA92C9

# Windows 7 Ultimate Retail English (x86)
Name: 7600.16385.090713-1255_x86fre_client_en-us_Retail_Ultimate-GRMCULFRER_EN_DVD.iso
CRC: 0xC1C20F76
SHA-1: 0x5395DC4B38F7BDB1E005FF414DEEDFDB16DBF610

# Windows 7 Ultimate Retail English (x64)
Name: 7600.16385.090713-1255_x64fre_client_en-us_Retail_Ultimate-GRMCULXFRER_EN_DVD.iso
CRC: 0x1F1257CA
SHA-1: 0x326327CC2FF9F05379F5058C41BE6BC5E004BAA7

http://translate.google.de/translate?prev=...history_state0=



Can anyone else confirm?
#63.2 GreyWolfSC on 24 Jul 2009 - 00:16
I don't think it should say Ultimate in it, should it? Aren't all the editions on the same disc?
#63.3 LiquidSolstice on 24 Jul 2009 - 09:11
GreyWolfSC said,
I don't think it should say Ultimate in it, should it? Aren't all the editions on the same disc?


Well, it would make sense, because they do sell Home Premium only disks, right? Ultimate usually signifies that it contains all editions, though now that I think of it, I'm not entirely sure if that will be true about offical public retail discs.
#64 FRIEDjellyWALNUT on 24 Jul 2009 - 00:22
I can't wait to put my MSDN account to good use!
(1 reply) #65 JunkMail on 24 Jul 2009 - 12:49
Right! when will Ballmer leave Microsoft I want Billy boy to return instead :p
#65.1 Quillz on 24 Jul 2009 - 21:35
JunkMail said,
Right! when will Ballmer leave Microsoft I want Billy boy to return instead :p

Ballmer is a good CEO and businessman. He will be forced out when Microsoft's stock, products and profits start tanking, which will likely never happen. Much more likely is Ballmer will simply grow old and retire, the same fate that will probably become of Steve Jobs.

And Bill Gates hasn't really left, but he's also not coming back as CEO. (He held that position and later turned it over to Ballmer.)
#66 Breach on 24 Jul 2009 - 17:38
Ballmer is a clown, I hate him. I am sure the MS execs they start shaking when he enters the room though.
#67 nxm on 24 Jul 2009 - 17:54
its arrived like half an hour ago also on your favourite swedish copyright lovers party site

(4 replies) #68 mitochondria on 24 Jul 2009 - 20:52
It looks like there is a 3-day automatic activation setup with this one. Must wait til Aug 6 Technet key release. No 30-day grace period.
#68.1 Quillz on 24 Jul 2009 - 21:36
mitochondria said,
It looks like there is a 3-day automatic activation setup with this one. Must wait til Aug 6 Technet key release. No 30-day grace period.

Are you sure? Because I have the RTM and it says I have 30 days to activate, just like I did with WinXP and Windows Vista. You can also rearm three additional times, effectively giving you a 120-day evaluation period. (And by the time that expires, about four months from now, Win7 will already be available on retail shelves.)
#68.2 mitochondria on 24 Jul 2009 - 22:18
I'll check again when I get home. It was weird to see a 3-day activation, since it has always been 30-days, like you said. Maybe I was too tired to see straight last night. Be back in a few hours - after I check.
#68.3 mitochondria on 25 Jul 2009 - 03:32
Yup. Windows 7 Enterprise. 3-day automatic activation. The system info says: "2 Days until automatic activation. Activate Windows now."
I installed it last night. I was hoping you were right, but....nope. Let's see what happens in 2 days. No biggie since it is a test system anyway.

#68.4 Phemo on 25 Jul 2009 - 10:14
With Enterprise it should attempt automatic activation in 3 days, but after that time passes you'll see it gives you a full 30 days.

You won't be able to activate Enterprise without a KMS server though.
#69 mitochondria on 25 Jul 2009 - 17:23
Thanks for the info. I'll have to get the Pro version with a key when it comes out on Technet in 2 weeks.
#70 Joshie on 27 Jul 2009 - 07:59
So...

What'll be the RTM build number for Windows 8?

Bwahahaha~

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