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Tom Warren   on 05 August 2009 - 18:30 · 65 comments & 7475 views

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In the latest twist of Apple's confusing iPhone AppStore policies, one developer's dictionary application was rejected for "objectionable content". Why? It contained swear words.

In a blog post by John Gruber, technical writer and technology pundit, Gruber confirms Apple censored an English dictionary. Matchstick software, developers of Ninja Words - a "really fast" dictionary, first submitted their iPhone application on May 13; it was rejected two days later. According to Phil Crosby, one of Ninjawords's developers, "Our app was crashing on the latest beta of iPhone OS 3.0. We quickly fixed this issue and resubmitted."

Matchstick did not hear from Apple again until May 30 when Apple rejected the application for "objectionable content". Crosby says Apple provided screen shots of swear words found during a search. The words were only found when the AppStore reviewer explicitly searched for the words. For example, running a search for fuc would not suggest a swear word. Apple claimed "Applications must not contain any obscene, pornographic, offensive or defamatory content or materials of any kind (text, graphics, images, photographs, etc.), or other content or materials that in Apple's reasonable judgement may be found objectionable by iPhone or iPod touch users."

Later the developers were told on July 1 the app would need to be rated 17+ to make it into the AppStore. Ninjawords later appeared in the AppStore on July 13 requiring you to be 17 years or older to purchase a censored dictionary with a list of omitted swear words.

This instance further highlights the confusing policies that Apple uses to approve applications. One high profile application that was recently rejected was Google Voice, the FCC is currently investigating why this was rejected.

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(3 replies) #1 barteh on 05 Aug 2009 - 18:35
< snipped - Calum > stupid if you ask me



Last edited by Calum on 05 Aug 2009 - 19:45
#1.1 cakesy on 06 Aug 2009 - 03:22
I guess barteh must have used a swear word. Sorry mate, no swear words here. Is the neowin server running as an app on the iPhone, that would make sense.
#1.2 barteh on 06 Aug 2009 - 06:13
No swear word from me. just using the word above. Yet the editor is allowed to use mucking fuddle to circumvent the filter here?

six of one....
#1.3 +Kirkburn on 07 Aug 2009 - 00:31
barteh said,
No swear word from me. just using the word above. Yet the editor is allowed to use mucking fuddle to circumvent the filter here?

six of one....

Yes, because they are Neowin. Anyway, lighten up.
(4 replies) #2 dimithrak on 05 Aug 2009 - 18:35
Gosh.. lets look at this in a very weird way..

App Store = App Land
Government = Apple
Leadership Style = Communist!

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Apple, we are well into the 21st century now.. the days when we use to bother about swear words are way gone.. for heavens sake.. GROW THE **** UP! honestly what are you so worried about? tsk tsk
#2.1 +M2Ys4U on 05 Aug 2009 - 18:41
Communism is an economical philosophy, not a leadership style.
#2.2 vetneufuse on 05 Aug 2009 - 19:40
M2Ys4U said,
Communism is an economical philosophy, not a leadership style.


I think he was looking for Dictatorship / totalitarianism
#2.3 Shetland on 06 Aug 2009 - 13:14
neufuse said,
I think he was looking for Dictatorship / totalitarianism

indeed. people need to stop throwing around words without understanding them. 'liberal' gets the same kind of misuse (mostly in america)
#2.4 Roadrunna on 06 Aug 2009 - 13:37
Probably not his fault, his iPhone doesn't have a dictionary app.
(8 replies) #3 Corris on 05 Aug 2009 - 18:35
Probably one of the best news titles I've seen on Neowin.
That is so fetch!
#3.1 HolyOne on 05 Aug 2009 - 18:40
Haha, I agree. A very clever news title!
#3.2 Calum on 05 Aug 2009 - 20:17
You're fetch, Corris.

You're fetch.
#3.3 Corris on 05 Aug 2009 - 23:04
I hear your a turtle Calum.
#3.4 +Callum M-R on 06 Aug 2009 - 08:03
This thread is colourful. Can we get a plain subscriber in here too please?
#3.5 +ckempo on 06 Aug 2009 - 16:24
#3.6 +ckempo on 06 Aug 2009 - 16:25
Callum M-R said,
This thread is colourful. Can we get a plain subscriber in here too please?


Happy to oblige - mine's orange.
#3.7 shockz on 06 Aug 2009 - 19:36
Callum M-R said,
This thread is colourful. Can we get a plain subscriber in here too please?


How about a poo brown color.
#3.8 +Kirkburn on 07 Aug 2009 - 00:32
shockz said,
How about a poo brown color.

Mmm, lovely.
(2 replies) #4 Tim Dawg on 05 Aug 2009 - 18:38
I guess swear words aren't real words then, right?
#4.1 MtDewCodeRedFreak on 05 Aug 2009 - 18:50
Heh - Neowin even have a *cough* swear filter.
#4.2 cakesy on 06 Aug 2009 - 03:21
MtDewCodeRedFreak said,
Heh - Neowin even have a *cough* swear filter.

I know, this is so hypocritical, but then, what do you expect.
(2 replies) #5 Chris4 on 05 Aug 2009 - 18:41
If Apple can control the words which go in the dictionary, what next? :-/
#5.1 cakesy on 06 Aug 2009 - 03:20
Well, we aren't allowed to swear on neowin, a site supposedly for adults. What does that tell you how some people treat swear words.

Apple, come on, you have got to be joking?
#5.2 +Kirkburn on 07 Aug 2009 - 00:32
cakesy said,
Well, we aren't allowed to swear on neowin, a site supposedly for adults.

Where does it say that?
(5 replies) #6 +Callum M-R on 05 Aug 2009 - 18:44
I think they should remove safari from the iPhone/iPod Touch.
I just searched for the f-word and it returned results containing the f-word. I find this to be objectionable content.
#6.1 Xilo on 05 Aug 2009 - 19:25
Callum M-R said,
I think they should remove safari from the iPhone/iPod Touch.
I just searched for the f-word and it returned results containing the f-word. I find this to be objectionable content.

I can look up porn on Mobile Safari. Surely this goes against their own approval system. Mobile Safari should be pulled from all iPhones/Ipods as it can potentially contain objectionable content!
#6.2 Digix on 05 Aug 2009 - 19:38
Xilo said,
Callum M-R said,
I think they should remove safari from the iPhone/iPod Touch.
I just searched for the f-word and it returned results containing the f-word. I find this to be objectionable content.

I can look up porn on Mobile Safari. Surely this goes against their own approval system. Mobile Safari should be pulled from all iPhones/Ipods as it can potentially contain objectionable content!


Not to mention what "objectionable material" can be found on youtube if you look for it lol.
#6.3 Calum on 05 Aug 2009 - 20:20
Haha, nice one Cal!

That actually makes them so hypocritical! Seriously!
#6.4 guruparan on 05 Aug 2009 - 20:40
Oh..wait..what if i *Speak* the "objectionable word" during the phone call...iPhone itself will be banned? (since it can transmit those words??) ..isnt it silly..
#6.5 duneworld on 06 Aug 2009 - 12:37
Apple banning their own apps? Surely not.
#7 tiagosilva29 on 05 Aug 2009 - 18:49
**** yeah, mother****ers!
(1 reply) #8 master2k27 on 05 Aug 2009 - 18:57
How come everything apple related gets a low rating
#8.1 +Kirkburn on 07 Aug 2009 - 00:34
master2k27 said,
How come everything apple related gets a low rating

There's always a bit of uncertainty for the ratings: are they a reflection of the article, or the article's subject?
#9 +dead.cell on 05 Aug 2009 - 19:30
What a load of ****.
(2 replies) #10 necrosis on 05 Aug 2009 - 19:33
Now that is BS.

Dictionary.com's app has the word **** (and even ****, as well as many other 'bad words' ) in it and that was approved months ago.

Last edited by Calum on 05 Aug 2009 - 20:24
#10.1 HolyOne on 05 Aug 2009 - 19:35
Shh! I love the Dictionary.com app!

Do not speak of this again.
#10.2 necrosis on 08 Aug 2009 - 20:51
necrosis said,
Now that is BS.

Dictionary.com's app has the word **** (and even ****, as well as many other 'bad words' ) in it and that was approved months ago.
Wow. The mods censored me censoring myself that has relevance to the topic at hand?

Neowin did you hire Apple's reviewers?
(13 replies) #11 lee26 on 05 Aug 2009 - 19:43
Apples reputation is getting a hammering lately.
#11.1 Kushan on 05 Aug 2009 - 20:05
About ****ing time!
#11.2 Shadrack on 05 Aug 2009 - 20:18
lee26 said,
Apples reputation is getting a hammering lately.


Having the most popular product comes at a cost.
#11.3 Calum on 05 Aug 2009 - 20:23
So far, they've deserved every bit of it. I'm really disappointed in some of their actions as of late.
#11.4 Frank Fontaine on 05 Aug 2009 - 20:52
Yep, they really need to clean up their act
#11.5 Proneax on 05 Aug 2009 - 21:41
Shadrack said,
Having the most popular product and being assf***s comes at a cost.


fixed it
#11.6 +dead.cell on 05 Aug 2009 - 21:57
They've been going downhill for the past couple months now. I think it was around the announcement of the stupid Shuffle headphones that things seemed to take a turn for the worst.
#11.7 bob_c_b on 06 Aug 2009 - 00:29
Yes, the Neowin smear campaign is really working out well.
#11.8 +Sethos on 06 Aug 2009 - 07:01
bob_c_b said,
Yes, the Neowin smear campaign is really working out well.


Stop crying and come to terms with the fact your beloved company isn't perfect.
#11.9 +Chipshop on 06 Aug 2009 - 09:22
far far far from perfect
#11.10 bob_c_b on 06 Aug 2009 - 22:07
Sethos said,
Stop crying and come to terms with the fact your beloved company isn't perfect.


Ahh Sethos who doesn't like ANYTHING.
#11.11 +Kirkburn on 07 Aug 2009 - 00:35
bob_c_b said,
Ahh Sethos who doesn't like ANYTHING.

I'm not sure how that's in any way a rebuttal. It actually puts him in a more objective position.
#11.12 zhouij on 07 Aug 2009 - 17:58
Kirkburn said,
I'm not sure how that's in any way a rebuttal. It actually puts him in a more objective position.


Agree.
#11.13 bob_c_b on 07 Aug 2009 - 21:40
Kirkburn said,
I'm not sure how that's in any way a rebuttal. It actually puts him in a more objective position.


Only if you think anything he has to say adds to the discussion. Sethos, from my expreience with him, hates everything and has stated his mission is to be critical.
(3 replies) #12 Examinus on 05 Aug 2009 - 20:12
Apple's Dictionary certainly doesn't skimp on the old ****.

Last edited by Examinus on 05 Aug 2009 - 20:21
#12.1 Anaron on 05 Aug 2009 - 20:21
LOL!
#12.2 Examinus on 05 Aug 2009 - 20:23
Anaron said,
LOL!


I deleted the screenshot! Do you think I should put it back?
#12.3 Anaron on 05 Aug 2009 - 22:51
Examinus said,
I deleted the screenshot! Do you think I should put it back?

I don't think that would be a good idea.
(1 reply) #13 Jim Bohannon on 05 Aug 2009 - 21:02
I just looked up the word "f**k" on the Dictionary Dashboard widget built into my MacBookPro which display a full definition in graphic detail.

OMG! I want a refund on my MacBookPro because it contains objectionable content!!! NOT!

Seriously, I don't understand why a developer can write any app for the Mac whether is duplicates existing functionality or not, but on the iPhone the very same developer has to work with no guidelines trying not to step on someone's toes.

Apple, why not let the market decide if a third party app is better than your own app and provide the same rules for content across both platforms? They are both MacOS X anyway.
#13.1 Tikitiki on 06 Aug 2009 - 03:21
Yeah, Apple's Safari should also block all pornographic sites!

... not.

Silly Apple.
#14 Septimus on 05 Aug 2009 - 21:18
I like the AppStore, but Apple are really ****ing up the acceptance procedure.
#15 M_Lyons10 on 05 Aug 2009 - 21:41
Wow. That has to be one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while... LOL
#16 azcodemonkey on 05 Aug 2009 - 23:19
I hate the randomness of the App Store approval process. They really need to be consistent. My Oxford Dictionary app has the f-word in it. Why did it get approved?
#17 wakers01 on 05 Aug 2009 - 23:23
Just another reason why I would never buy an iphone. Not only are they Nazis about the apps, but they're nonsensical Nazis at that. I bet they outsourced their approvals department.
#18 shakey on 06 Aug 2009 - 01:02
Wow, apple showing their true colors. next will be any news source that post anything bad about apple will be banned from being displayed or stored or used by anything apple... where does it stop?
#19 +Chipshop on 06 Aug 2009 - 09:24
So how long before the word 'Windows' gets cut from the Apple edition dictionary?
Don't laugh it will happen :p
#20 cerealfreak on 06 Aug 2009 - 09:40
OK this is stupid on a whole new level, I swear to god (ha no pun intended but have I offended both Apple and religious people??) If those words are included in the Oxford English Dictionary then I don't see how Apple can justify this decision? This if passed to the FCC will surely add serious weight to them getting fined for controlling a market.
#21 bob_c_b on 06 Aug 2009 - 17:20
Follow up from Gruber, hopefully this clears the air a bit...

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