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Have you never heard about the "I am rich" app
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=booA4jQDcgE

Oh yes.. the $1,000 application that 8 people purchased.. he is $8,000 richer now

There are plenty of medical, and security applications which cost 3 or 4+ times this.

Yup I got a navigon for only $69.99 from Tiger.. and it does the job.. so.... i dnt know if this is that worth it.. hopefully we will get to know soon..

you can tell from iTunes app store that the app itself is a 1.21GB download, so i think its safe to assume all map data is kept on the phone.

also, for $99, you are only getting the software. i dont think there's been any confirmed details in regards to price of the holster.

Good to know about the 1.21GB, I didn't see (should have looked harder).....Some Nav systems I have used burn 5GB or more if stored locally, otherwise they require a DVD, so 1.21 seems kinda small. I wonder if that includes POI and other useful data.

hhm... I wish they did not keep all the map data locally.
Roads change kind of often (especially in cities) and GPS software is not always up to day. I would rather they pulled info from Google Maps or some other service.

And if they do store it locally...I'm hoping for frequent map updates.

Updates are important and nice......but what do you do when you are driving to a place you are not familiar with and you cannot connect to to the AT&T network....So much for your nav software......plus, I doubt the 3G network could handle pulling all that data....it can barely handle what it has today.

too expensive for my taste

also just a note, that 1.21GB was for the north american version. could be varying sizes for other locations

i didnt think about it, but does tomtom give free updates for maps? i had a tomtom one from few years ago, and i remember never being able to get free updates for it.

Just download and installed. Spent 10 minutes with it.....first thing to jump out at me was how fast it was, good GUI, etc....The bad.....no integration with the contacts of the iphone...uh....can you say first update release......You cannot background the app......now that's just stupid.....

I thought it was integrated with the contacts:
"Meet up with friends - Find an entry in your iPhone contacts list, and the TomTom app will find the way there. It's that simple."
Or is it not that simple?

No integration from what I can find, but I could be overlooking it....

That's an iPhone limitation and has been since day one?

From what I have read about the iPhone (being fairly new with it), Apple selectively chooses which apps qualify for background capability. I would think that this app and music apps like Pandora and so on would qualify and there had to be some political reason for not allowing it. So I don't few it as a limitation, but rather a very dumb choice.

There is no third-party app that runs in the background. Apple selecting some to do so, was a rumour. It has yet to happen. The push service was released to get around some of those limitations, however it has little use in the context of the TomTom app. And yes, you are overlooking the integration. Try Menu -> Navigate To -> Contacts.

ahhhhh....Gotcha....So now, all we need is background mode, some voice street names and more Apple providing and less dictating.......Not bad for $99.....And I have out grown my desire to walk around with 2, 3, 4 or more tech devices in my pocket and/or hanging off my belt....One device that does it all........works for me.....

I would have to agree with you. Something that stays in the vehicle and is always setup.

my assumption is that it will show the caller UI when the phone is ringing, but once you pick up, it will run the phone app in the background and give priority to the GPS - again... just an assumption

What happens is when a call comes through, it will show up normally, and if you accept the call, it will stop showing the GPS and only show the in-call screen.

After the call is disconnected, the TomTom application will resume

why do you think that?
AT&T made an exception to let TomTom provide GPS service over their network, what's to say that Apple won't allow this app to run in the background?

Definitely shouldn't text while you drive.

The call is a legitimate problem, though.

Why do I think what? That Navigon works well?

Your $99 stand-alone GPS is not what you paid for...it was the software that was installed on it. The device itself was most likely made in Korea by some slave worker for $10.

The money is always in the software development of a technology product. The hardware is pennies on the dollar. Does anyone believe that the iPhone device itself is worth 600-700 dollars retail. Of course not...its the development dollars that Apple needs to recoup. I mean, those software developers are not cheap....100-200 thou per year salary x's a team of 10-20 dedicated to a product.......$$$$$$$$$$$.....Perhaps I.T. folks can take less paying salaries of we want cheaper technology.....Just a thought.....

It's not just the software you are paying for. Obviously the hardware has R&D as well not to mention marketing, accountants ect and all that which need to be payed.

The point still stands that you could buy a stand alone for the same price if thats what you wanted.

I don't think so.. The post above yours states it might be available in the iPod Touch 2nd gen.. which has a built in GPS (I don't know if it does tho)

You don't need a phone telco signal for this to work as the iPhone 3G and 3GS have internal GPS receivers. It may use a little bit of data for Assisted GPS purposes, but you can always disable that.

I'd prefer if Apple actually released an update (OS4 maybe?) where I wouldn't have to jailbreak. It's one of the only remaining reasons left to bother jailbreaking.

LOL.....Nissan Motors put out a car recently called the GT-R. At $100K US, It is beautiful, sexy and plenty powerful....Just one catch-22....To use all of that power (called "launch mode"), you must be physically located at one of the hundred official race tracks that the built in GPS nav system knows of....Until you are at one of these locations...the "launch mode" is disabled and you have access to maybe 3/4 of your power. Nissan's response to those who complain about this is "you can override that disable "feature", BUT....It will void your warranty".......

The iPhone is a very expensive toy, a very impressive toy and those cocky and arrogant ba$tards at Apple are telling me that the only way I fully do things that the phone is more than capable of doing is.....Jailbreak it and void my warranty.......Ummmmm....I just paid a ton of money is a down economy and you are telling me what?????? I shouldn't have to void my warranty to do things that we all know are possible and the only reason I can't is "Politics".

Pretty much. If people buy it either knowing full well it can't multitask or they didn't do the research then tough biccies. Yes it sucks, but you've hardly been cheated either.

As for the OP saying multi tasking is possible...yes, we know you can achieve it via a jailbreak. Some people want a supported implementation which won't void their warranty however.

Jailbreak isn't going to void your warranty. You can always restore your iPhone to the original state leaving no traces of the jailbreak. If the phone is physically damaged (smashed or dropped in water) to the point that it can no longer be put in DFU then Apple isn't going to be able to read the phone either. I have had clients bring phones to the store with damaged phones that have a jailbreak and walked out with a new phones no questions asked.

The iPhone is literally impossible to brick with software. Apple wants people to be scared that this is possible and that they will not replace your phone if you do. Apple just doesn't want to endorse jailbreaks for tech support reasons. Just think about how many people would be calling in saying, "My battery is dieing to fast when I background my IM app, VoIP app and Pandora all at the same time".

Very mature comment. Personally, I think this is a reasonable price. In the UK, GPS systems aren't much cheaper and the iPhone's ability to integrate functions of many devices makes it an ideal prospect. So it is awesome, dood.

Until you no doubt upgrade you're shiny iBrick in a couple of years because the battery is shot and you need the ZOMG NEW feature that's been in every phone since 1996 and find you have to shell out $99 again.

TomTom bleat on about piracy on their navigator software. Personally I cant blame people for wanting to. An all in one unit typically costs around £100-£120 and then (if you require) £40 a year for updated maps. Typically an all in one unit only needs to be updated maybe every 2 or 3 years bringing the cost down to around £30 a year. With a phone however the device has another purpose and most people will upgrade their phone 18 months later and some have no option (insurance or warranty) so the phone you have shelled out £90 for has no "change device" deal or option to upgrade so your once again looking at £100 (more if you have brought extra maps)

Another well thought out comment obviously. Except that when I do upgrade my shiny iBrick to an even newer, shinier iBrick, it'll still sync with the same iTunes account. So it'll have the same apps as I did before. It's magic. Alternatively, if I don't get a newer iPhone and go with another brand of phones, I can use my iPhone as a GPS unit as I don't need it for calls anymore.

Get back to me when you actually have a point.

That post is status quo in Apple related news (the one you commented on).

And that is exactly why I bought the software from Navigon already.
The only thing good about Tomtoms app is the car mount which is very sleek.