Apple has begun to air two new "Get a Mac" ads that continue to target Microsoft's "Laptop Hunters" ad campaign which has directly attacked Apple's higher prices for PCs. These ads try to quell the idea that Mac's cost more and try to point out, yet again, that Mac's have "superior" functionality and quality.One of the new ad's called "Top of the Line" features Patrick Warburton - well known for his portrayal of David Puddy from the Seinfeld sitcom. Top of the Line focuses on potential viruses and other "headaches" that may affect PC's, but not Macs. The second ad, called "Surprise" was also posted today featuring a similar message.
Apple is only a few days away from the launch of Snow Leopard, on August 28th, it's latest and greatest operating system that features 64-bit capability, is faster and leaner, offers exchange support and is more accessible than ever, and it's not a surprise that these ads appear at this close to the release.
Top of the Line:
Surprise:
What do you think of the new ads? Let us know in the comments!
You can also watch the videos over at Apple.com in high resolution.
Thanks to forum user and Neowin subscriber Mephistopheles for the news tip
Something tells me Apple would be great at making political campaign ads given all the mudslinging they like to do.
Because it is an ad. People don't like being lectured to, they want to be amused, and this stuff is amusing, unless you are a stuck-up Microsoft fanboy.
I love it when these ads come out, just like I love it when the Microsoft ads come out, all the fanboys get all upset over some stupid ads.
I love it when these ads come out, just like I love it when the Microsoft ads come out, all the fanboys get all upset over some stupid ads.
For once, I completely agree with you. FFS, these ads aren't even targeting tech enthusiasts.
I hope Microsoft sue them for false advertising. Macs get viruses, and shock/horror - PC's "just work"!
I'll admit I did think the "surprise" ad was funny (if not misleading)
Only a stuck-up Apple fanboy would make a statement like this. See what I did there?
Pretty much. I watch the ads but everything coming from them directly contradicts my personal experience so it does little to sell me on anything. When your whole argument is that my Windows computers crash and get viruses...well, I haven't had a crash in a long time and I haven't had a virus in years. If that's all I get for the Mac price premium then count me out. I can put together a better system for less money and still have no headaches. I know this because it's what I did.
Nothing worse than a smug ad campaign that likes to make things up about the competition.
Really? I'm definitely not a stuck-up fanboy and these ads used to be funny. Now it's just beyond old and so predictable and plain sad actually that the only thing Apple seems capable of doing is digging up some PC stereotype for the gazillionth time. Say what you want, but the MS ads do focus on their selling point, which cant be said about the apple ads.
Well you can't deny that windows does have lots of viruses. It's factual, so calling it "crap" screams self-delusion. Although I would disagree with the "PC" part because GNU/Linux doesn't have virus problems either. Why not just come out and say viruses are endemic to windows?
Well because you say they don't crash or get viruses, we better all go out and buy a windows PC eh? LOL
So.. macs have more and more viruses.. It's a different point whether or not you are secure on Windows. And these days you are. Tools are great, huge amount of choices and they are for the most part well optimized. When Microsoft comes out with Security Essentials it will be a free download that is terrific and by the reviews it might be the best suite out there.
Ads are not factual, PCs are faster, cheaper, you can get more done with Windows machines because of much larger diversity of software and the whole crashing and PCs being hampered by viruses is pretty rare.
In fact the industry has shown that OSX is actually much less safe than Windows based on critical flaws and every month we hear about a new virus on OSX. Enough so that Apple has to integrate a virus check in Snow Leopard.
So much for no viruses.
Well because Apple says Macs don't crash or get viruses, we better all go out and buy them eh?
There are viruses out there for the mac as well. These ads seem to be a bit misleading
And because there isn't the same kind of security barriers built into the OS because of the continous onslaught of these viruses and trojans Mac would be screwed.
Yes but I bet the Mac People are also kicking on that same button. Only at the moment it does nothing.
And because there isn't the same kind of security barriers built into the OS because of the continous onslaught of these viruses and trojans Mac would be screwed.
Ha ha, this old horse gets dragged out everytime. Clearly you are no expert on Operating Systems, here is a little help:
Mac OS is built ontop of BSD, the most secure OS ever. Mac OS was built from the top to contain security, it was the number one consideration for everything they did.
Microsoft has only really been taking security seriously the last few years, and even then has had some stumbling blocks. Windows was not built secure from the beginning, it has had security measures added on top of it, which has caused some problems.
But I guess, whatever makes you feel better, you go ahead an believe that. Because all OS are equal, aren't they?
And because there isn't the same kind of security barriers built into the OS because of the continous onslaught of these viruses and trojans Mac would be screwed.
Ha ha, this old horse gets dragged out everytime. Clearly you are no expert on Operating Systems, here is a little help:
Mac OS is built ontop of BSD, the most secure OS ever. Mac OS was built from the top to contain security, it was the number one consideration for everything they did.
Microsoft has only really been taking security seriously the last few years, and even then has had some stumbling blocks. Windows was not built secure from the beginning, it has had security measures added on top of it, which has caused some problems.
But I guess, whatever makes you feel better, you go ahead an believe that. Because all OS are equal, aren't they?
Why don't you take an OS history tour Then comment.
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/...ns_through_ages
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/...ns_through_ages
Not a big fan of websites that split there articles over 20 pages. When I was talking about Mac OS, I meant to say Mac OS X. Is there anything in that article that disagrees that Mac OS X is built on BSD?? Send me to a page if so.
I agree but at this point in time that's the awesome thing for Mac OS X.
There are viruses out there for the mac as well. These ads seem to be a bit misleading
True, but there are still thousands of viruses out there for PC's, and not for Macs (although they have a few, but they aren't denying this).
These ads aren't misleading.
And because there isn't the same kind of security barriers built into the OS because of the continous onslaught of these viruses and trojans Mac would be screwed.
Ha ha, this old horse gets dragged out everytime. Clearly you are no expert on Operating Systems, here is a little help:
Mac OS is built ontop of BSD, the most secure OS ever. Mac OS was built from the top to contain security, it was the number one consideration for everything they did.
Microsoft has only really been taking security seriously the last few years, and even then has had some stumbling blocks. Windows was not built secure from the beginning, it has had security measures added on top of it, which has caused some problems.
But I guess, whatever makes you feel better, you go ahead an believe that. Because all OS are equal, aren't they?
Excuse me?
OS X was built upon the Mach kernel, which was derived from BSD.
BSD is not entirely entirely secure, but OpenBSD is a more secure fork of BSD than the standard BSD tree, and NetBSD is even more secure than either.
It might be a good idea to check the news out there, because there have been a few new exploits squarely aimed at OS X - of course, most of them require physical access to the system and are *not* remote exploits.
That may or may not be, BUT, why do you own your MAC or PC? Is it to be secure against every conceivable threat, because if so, an empty case does that even better. ;-) If BSD is the most secure ever, & that's why people should use the MAC OS that's built on top of BSD, than wouldn't running BSD be all that much better? But Oops, I forget those piddling little details of usability & software -- silly me.
Seriously. Security is important, but people buy PCs &/or MACs to use them, do they not? *If* MACs are more secure, but you A) can't afford to own one, or B) can't find or afford the software to do what you want, &/or C) can't do the networking ops you need, it's like one of those Zen riddles -- long story short, who cares?
From that perspective it's little different than people driving SUVs because they better survive getting hit, regardless the fact they perform, cost, & drive like SUVs, i.e. worse than most any car.
When was the last true outbreak of a virus for Windows? I can't remember, I think I have to go back to Blaster in...2001(?)
These days true virii are rare. Most malware around are not viruses and need to be executed by click happy users. There's no anti-stupidity software yet, unfortunately. I have not had a virus in years.
I've never seen or heard of mass infections on macs. You would probably have to go out of your way to infect yourself unlike windows where drive by malware is commonplace. In theory you could infect GNU/Linux if you were stupid enough to explicitly execute an untrustworthy binary as root, so for these reasons both Macs and Linux are much more secure.
*Nix type OS's are inherently more secure than windows. Just look at the file level permissions. It's not easy to gain root access without explicit user intervention.
So that means we are all safe?
Why should we have to buy additional software to mask deficiencies in the underlying operating system?
There are no widespread viruses/malware on macs as far as I know. Their inherent security prevents this. The same can be said of Linux; the ability to replicate/spread is impeded by the system design. That's why they disappear and are never heard of again.
So windows doesn't have millions of live virus installations across the globe?
These days true virii are rare. Most malware around are not viruses and need to be executed by click happy users. There's no anti-stupidity software yet, unfortunately. I have not had a virus in years.
How on earth do all these anti-virus companies make their money I wonder....
Seriously. Security is important, but people buy PCs &/or MACs to use them, do they not? *If* MACs are more secure, but you A) can't afford to own one, or B) can't find or afford the software to do what you want, &/or C) can't do the networking ops you need, it's like one of those Zen riddles -- long story short, who cares?
From that perspective it's little different than people driving SUVs because they better survive getting hit, regardless the fact they perform, cost, & drive like SUVs, i.e. worse than most any car.
yes, I want security, but I also want a computer that I can do work on. So I compromise, get a decent computer, and the most secure OS out there for regular PCs, Mac OS X or Linux. I also use Windows, when I need to, but I recognise its problems, run Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware, and don't keep anything important on there, and try to keep it locked down.
And I find Mac OS X to be more pleasant to use than NetBSD. If that ok with you? There is no different in price for me between a PC or a Mac Laptops (I don't buy the cheap crappy stuff, I but either IBM or Apple).
I am not sure what your tirade actually means, I am not sure you do. It doesn't really make much sense.
Here's windows level permissions:
List Folder/Read Data
Read Attributes
Read Extended Attributes
Create Files/Write Data
Create Folders/Append Data
Write Attributes
Write Extended Attributes
Delete Subfolders and Files
Delete
Read Permissions
Change Permissions
Take Ownership
And because there isn't the same kind of security barriers built into the OS because of the continous onslaught of these viruses and trojans Mac would be screwed.
Ha ha, this old horse gets dragged out everytime. Clearly you are no expert on Operating Systems, here is a little help:
Mac OS is built ontop of BSD, the most secure OS ever. Mac OS was built from the top to contain security, it was the number one consideration for everything they did.
Microsoft has only really been taking security seriously the last few years, and even then has had some stumbling blocks. Windows was not built secure from the beginning, it has had security measures added on top of it, which has caused some problems.
But I guess, whatever makes you feel better, you go ahead an believe that. Because all OS are equal, aren't they?
clearly you are no expert, your comment would kind of fit for the win9x line. However we have been using the NT line since the year 2001 now! The nt line always has been built with security in mind. The problem was, up until XP SP2/Vista it wasn't enforced for home users (running as admin, which is unheard of in other OS'es)
I did not say that. Please read better.
Just because some idiot manages to get malware on his system doesn't mean were all doomed either. You're taking one statement and stretching it into the extreme. I have not had a virus in years, and I really don't go out of my way to achieve that. That image is hard to imagine for Apple fanboys. Some fanboys don't even want to believe you when you say that. Smug galore, that alone is reason enough not wanting to own a Mac.
Point being, Apple relies on a stereotype that is (no longer) valid. According to Apple's insinuation owning a PC equals having to deal with viruses. Keep the fud alive!
It's funny that when I tell Apple fanboys I don't get viruses, their response is "yeah, but you have to run resource hogging anti-virus software all the time". Which I don't, but I wonder how they will respond to this news.
So because you never heard of it we should all get Macs right?
(Just re-using your own silly comments)
Really? How interesting. Care to back that up?
In the grand scheme of things...noone uses Linux dude.
Oh I see, so because there are anti-virus companies, Windows viruses get infected all over the place! Can you seriously not see the crap you put out? See any contradiction in your statement?
I did not say viruses don't exist. Anti-virus software is not just for anti-virus anymore. And sure, Windows viruses exist. Just because they exist does not mean they are effective. Just like there ARE viruses for Mac, but they are not effective.
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Why because these ads are incredibly lame and uncreative? Yeah, watch out for people who can't think of anything new. These ads are just saying the same thing every other get a mac ad has said for years. Only they're making a sad attempt at mocking Microsoft's commercials with these.
Of were you being sarcastic...hard to tell on the internet..
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Learning their lesson? More like Apple hasnt learned theirs. MS fights back with their ads and Apple goes waa waaa MS your ads are inaccurate, change them. And remember, MS ads dont bash Apple...only Apple does this while telling people NOTHING about their products. Why when the new Zune HD comes out, I will never own another Apple product again. To many alternatives out there to choose from.
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The second advert is pretty funny, but lame at the same time.
Apple is only alive because Microsoft helped them long ago!
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Why is Apple being so mean?
Because Apple have a hissy fit when the truth about there fashion freak products are revealed.
That being said I really can't wait for a decent competator to the iPhone so I can rid of this wretched company.
Nice one, someone else who likes seeing the fanboys getting their knickers in a knot. It is great seeing the reaction here on Neowin, everyone getting all upset over some stupid ad.
It is an ad people, it is funny. If you can't see the humor, then you need to get out more, take life a little less seriously.
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The second advert is pretty funny, but lame at the same time.
And saying you don't have to worry about spyware and virus' are untrue about Mac OS? Right..... Soo soo untrue statements LOL!
Its like buying a 5 series Beamer or buying a Ferrari 430 the BMW has a bigger engine and more features but the Ferrari costs more.... YET a majority of people would rather have the Ferrari because it looks better and is faster.
Thing is with the Mac you don't need the same specs as the PC as things are handled a little different and everything works smoothly without issues.
The second advert is pretty funny, but lame at the same time.
And saying you don't have to worry about spyware and virus' are untrue about Mac OS? Right..... Soo soo untrue statements LOL!
Its like buying a 5 series Beamer or buying a Ferrari 430 the BMW has a bigger engine and more features but the Ferrari costs more.... YET a majority of people would rather have the Ferrari because it looks better and is faster.
Thing is with the Mac you don't need the same specs as the PC as things are handled a little different and everything works smoothly without issues.
Oh so that's their excuse for overpricing RAM by 800% to rip of people who don't know any better? What are these 'issues' that stop hardware from performing as well on Windows? I wouldn't class viruses as an issue since they are so easy to avoid.
Virus's and spyware are both things that people need to worry about with Windows, If I sent you a link right now to some random site, would you go to it, or have to think about it first... I don't have to worry about that.
Also have you installed Mac OS X..... My Mum, Dad and Sister can without any problems.... Windows on the other hand..... Noooo hope.
So anyways maybe Windows isn't a Beamer I think its probably more of a Japanese Imported car compared to a Ferrari because to get the same power as the Ferrari you would need to keep changing parts and have tunes every now and then to keep the car running correctly. The time and hassle it took to get the same power as a Ferrari and the effort of maintaining the Jap car is to irritating for some, so if they can effort a Ferrari then they'll rather that. I mean common How many times have you had to installed drivers for windows, I'm sure all the time.
Don't get me wrong it has the gaming market so I do use it only for that, but as a workstation, it's less hassle for me to use a Mac.
Also have you installed Mac OS X..... My Mum, Dad and Sister can without any problems.... Windows on the other hand..... Noooo hope.
So anyways maybe Windows isn't a Beamer I think its probably more of a Japanese Imported car compared to a Ferrari because to get the same power as the Ferrari you would need to keep changing parts and have tunes every now and then to keep the car running correctly. The time and hassle it took to get the same power as a Ferrari and the effort of maintaining the Jap car is to irritating for some, so if they can effort a Ferrari then they'll rather that. I mean common How many times have you had to installed drivers for windows, I'm sure all the time.
Don't get me wrong it has the gaming market so I do use it only for that, but as a workstation, it's less hassle for me to use a Mac.
Are your mum, dad and sister by any means mentally challenged? My 5 year old cousin can operate a windows based pc and so can do my 50 year old mum.
Oh, and for the love of god stop comparing cars as an example. It makes you look like a clueless tool.
Oh, and for the love of god stop comparing cars as an example. It makes you look like a clueless tool.
Your 5 yr cousin and 50 yo Mum can install Windows + all the drivers and everything.... Who said anything about operating?
Read what I've stated because it makes you look like clueless tool!
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The Windows installer is graphical and simple, just like the OS X installer. My mom and sister have used it. Drivers are automatically downloaded from the Internet right after installation, with no user interaction required. Or have you never installed a modern version of Windows before and cluelessly continue to base your opinions on an OS that was released in 2001?
I sure wish OS X was able to automatically download my printer's drivers like Windows can.
The adverts always pick a specific price point that will exclude macs. How original...
Oh, and for the love of god stop comparing cars as an example. It makes you look like a clueless tool.
That's an overtly offensive statement. Mods?
And anyone can use a windows PC, but few of them can keep it virus free. I know from experience; After having to deal with viruses/malware on my family and friends' PC's I formatted them and put Ubuntu on; haven't looked back since.
Considering that the majority of windows PC's out there are running XP, I think it's quite relevant. And neither XP nor any of its predecessors automatically did this. However, Linux based installations have been doing this long before XP. Most come with all the drivers necessary right out of the box.
I take it you are refering to vista, because no other version of windows will do that. And we all know how successful that was considering all the downgrading that's been going on!
And remind me how many hardware incompatibilities there were when vista was released... Including printers; I sure wish I hadn't had to hunt around the net for ways to fix things like that...
Oh, and for the love of god stop comparing cars as an example. It makes you look like a clueless tool.
That's an overtly offensive statement. Mods?
Meh I don't care that it's offensive, but thanks anyways... Parents earn more in a week than he would in a life time... Pretty sure they aren't retarded if they can be doing that, so I'm not overly worried
suprise add was funny, but i am getting old with the argument of thousands of viruses and headaches.... its wrong and highly subjective!
Same here.
How is it wrong? There are thousands of viruses out there spreading like wildfire and all targeting windows users. Those users should be concerned.
Subjective? With hundreds of millions of virus infected PC's out there, it's definitive and nonsubjective; the observable evidence is indisputable.
Subjective? With hundreds of millions of virus infected PC's out there, it's definitive and nonsubjective; the observable evidence is indisputable.
Viruses spreading like wildfire! Wow! What are they running? Windows 95?
Makes me wonder why I have not heard of this latest outbreak. And how would you know how many infected PC's are out there? Care to backup those statements with grown up, non partial evidence? Should be no problem as it is indisputable as you say.
New? Sounds like the same old stuff to me...just a diff actors....
Thats all they can do to market their products. They cannot sell purely on merit and reputation. They dont put trust in their products to sell themselves rather use low handed tactics to sell products.
The truth always hurts the most. And viruses/malware are the bane of the majority of PC users, so they are really hitting MS where it hurts.
High five!
(Seinfeld gag for those who used to watch it!
(Seinfeld gag for those who used to watch it!
He also played THE TICK....SPOON!!
(Seinfeld gag for those who used to watch it!
He also played THE TICK....SPOON!!
And Brock F'ing Samson, the swedish murder machine thankyouverymuch
(Seinfeld gag for those who used to watch it!
He also played THE TICK....SPOON!!
And Brock F'ing Samson, the swedish murder machine thankyouverymuch
And the voice of Joe Swanson on Family Guy and I think he does Stan on American Dad as well.
Family Guy its Patrick Warburton
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Family_Guy_cast_members
American Dad is Seth...
He acted as the Tick in the very short-lived "live action" prime time TV series. The voice actor of the cartoon The Tick was Townsend Coleman.
+ 10 cool points... lol
"Don't drive on the highway! There are hundreds of cars! You might get stuck in traffic, or be in a car accident! Or worse!
Come ride our shiny aluminum and glass monorail! It'll take you pretty close to where you're going. We rarely have issues, and while it's not as fun as driving yourself, you'll get there in pretty much the same time. Besides, our yearly passes are about the same as a car, with gas and maintenance thrown in!"
And anyway, just like the human body, a few viruses is good for you, it toughens up the immune system of your PC, or something.
And anyway, just like the human body, a few viruses is good for you, it toughens up the immune system of your PC, or something.
10-20?
And anyway, just like the human body, a few viruses is good for you, it toughens up the immune system of your PC, or something.
The only people that get viruses and spyware are people using:
-Windows 98/Me
-Using IE 6
-Surfing for porn/warez/crap like that
20-30 viruses eh? Suuuuuuuuure thing. Tell you what. The moment I can play games on MacOS I'll switch to it (without buying an apple obviously). Until that happens I'll enjoy my 20-30 imaginary viruses and my games at the same time.
And anyway, just like the human body, a few viruses is good for you, it toughens up the immune system of your PC, or something.
Wow! Windows comes with a couple viruses right out of the box!!!!!
Hehe.
+1 really really lame
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yeah but did it give you a headache? a melting pc surely would!
But hey, maybe you like that. Maybe you think that is more choice?
But hey, maybe you like that. Maybe you think that is more choice?
I think it's a well known fact that there is more choice because apple limit their software. More choice just means you can get closer to spending what you want, not jump up $600 between models.
But hey, maybe you like that. Maybe you think that is more choice?
Because it gives consumers more choice to pick from. Not everyone needs an over the top PC for the tasks they need to complete. I, myself, only needed something lightweight to carry to school and back for note taking and wasting time between my classes. So, naturally, I picked up a EEE PC off of Newegg, saving me a couple bucks. Instead of paying $700, $800, $900 (Or $1000 or greater in Apple's case) for a laptop that would be pretty much overkill, I spent $350 for a PC that suits my needs and then some.
Let's see. Shall I buy a vista PC, a vista laptop, a vista PC, a vista PC, or a vista laptop. So much variety and choice, I really don't know which to pick...
Dangit Penguin, we're talking hardware here.
And regarding security, physically - i think there have been a lot of hardware blowing up recently. Technically - wasn't a Mac hacked in 2 seconds in that recent hacking expo?
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I like your logic. "They are not. But even if they are" (which they are), of course it is the OS fault. Microsoft should make a secure OS, like Linux or BSD, or even, Mac OS X.
You can't design your OS, and then just add security on later. You can't ask a 100 questions every day, with Vista, and expect people to think about the question.
Most of the time when I come across hosed computers they are way behind on patches and anti-virus definitions, and have Limewire installed.
You can't design your OS, and then just add security on later. You can't ask a 100 questions every day, with Vista, and expect people to think about the question.
I absolutely love your logic
Hey guys lets just bash Windows without any sources or information
I love how ur defending these apple ads lol, I aint a fanboy (I aint even a computer geek lol) But its clear that you just defending your favourite company.
Intstead of calling microsoft ****, Show me how much better apple is then I'll believe you
You can't design your OS, and then just add security on later. You can't ask a 100 questions every day, with Vista, and expect people to think about the question.
Something tells me you won't like Win 7 because something also tells me you won't find anything to complain about. So anyway, what happened to gaming on OSX?
You can't design your OS, and then just add security on later. You can't ask a 100 questions every day, with Vista, and expect people to think about the question.
There is no such thing as a secure OS. An OS is only as secure as it's user...
+10
Are you saying that windows attracts the worst users? LOL
I agree it is getting old. So, when do you think Microsoft will do something about it?
Yet MS still has Virus's and Spyware.... You'd think that'd fix that after Apple has been pointing it out for years now.
LOL. +1
Yet, I can run a light-weight AV on my single core netbook, and still be able to surf the web AND take notes in Word... Hmmm....
Oh that's right you can't run a dual core netbook due to windows licensing restrictions, so you have to run viruses, anti-virus, firewall all on a single core.
Edit: We should be able to rate a topic with a negative value.
lmao
Though I do like Patrick Warburton lol.
Like the laptop hunter ads that set a price point to exclude macs in every episode?
Apple goes to Microsoft and says, "Please take down your ads, it's hurting us" and they go and basically bitch slap them with new ads that get across the same messgae. Hate to break it to you, but no computer (whether it would be a Mac or a PC) has viruses, just a matter of how much. How is this making anything any better?
If your smart, you will NEVER get a virus.
The ads made me laugh. LOL
Because everyone already knows about the BSOD
Virus/=Malware
Is this windows logic, heh logicwin?
I thought these things didn't exist for Mac?
I thought these things didn't exist for Mac?
Only if you believe everything you're told in the Apple commercials, as Cakesy obviously does going by all his comments on this page.
The Apple commercials say that this is a problem on PC's though, because they have so many.
Please. Please try to understand.
Is this windows logic, heh logicwin?
http://www.symantec.com/norton/macintosh/antivirus
Whats this? Why would I need this is OSX is immune to viruses?
The Apple commercials say that this is a problem on PC's though, because they have so many.
Please. Please try to understand.
Yeah they only imply that they don't exist on Macs by saying that they're such a huge problem on Windows that a Windows pc may as well be unusable. Drawing the logical conclusion that the only way to avoid viruses and malware is to buy a Mac, yes? What am I failing to understand?
There aren't any widespread viruses on macs. Only windows suffers from this.
I haven't run virus scanners on my PCs in years and never had a problem. I've been on Vista for 2 years and I haven't had to reinstall, use system restore, or use the other recovery tools either (I actually did have a friend that called me tonight needing to run the system recovery tools on her laptop, I was kind of clueless as a tried to guide her over the phone since I hadn't done it before, but it all worked, and Windows fixed itself). I've never even had to run defrag or chkdsk. No blue screens (well, other than one caused by a faulty TV tuner card). No random restarts. No kernel panics. It "just works"
These ads get on my nerves because they're simply not true.
"Do not do to others what you would not like to be done to you"
The last time MICROSOFT strikes back to your ads, you cried like a baby
FROM COMPUTER USER
Ads almost never tell the truth, & *Always* give you the least hard info possible... it's about selling an image -- about the viewer's ego, how they see themselves, & how they'd like to be seen by others. I mean how often do the real people driving sports cars look like James Bond or a starlet? ;-)
I don't know personally... While there might be quite a few people who could be considered "not 'tech savvy'", I can't see there being that many folks with *No Idea* what's what entering the market. If you've got absolutely no exposure to PCs, why would you buy one? If you have been exposed thru your family, school, work, friends etc, you're probably at least leaning PC or MAC already 'cause that's what you're used to seeing. Sure some folks might convert, but I see these ads more as preaching to the choir -- if anyone's posted here that they're switching because of those ads I missed it. ;-)
Macs will never be the machines for everyone and will always continue to be used for the more tech savvy
Honestly no one is really going to base " OH MY GOD THYE HAVE VIRUSES? on their choice of buying a new computer. As much as these ads are amusing, They are in no way informative to anyone looking to purchase a new computer. They are basically saying" Microsoft suck so pick us" Whether Microsoft say " look! where affordable, we have a lot of space and where fast!" Its a no brainer if you weren't that into technology which one you would choose.
AHH poor apple, Poor neive apple
Can we try and get some real news for a change?
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The 2nd one is great though! I love it!
*facepalms*
/geekish rant.
Windows thousands of viruses? seriously
And no, I am no fanboy, i use what is best... for a mediaplayer/pda and whatnot that is an ipod touch, for a computer well its my custom built pc and my netbook both running windows 7.
First, there's no profit motive to bother attacking Mac users. What will you get? An attack vector of maybe 5% of users, and access to their digital video and audio collection?
Second, look at the Pwn2Own competition. OSX, for the last FOUR YEARS RUNNING, is the first OS to fall. People assume that because it's built off of a BSD variant that it's inherently secure -- IT'S NOT. Look at the Pwn2Own competition and read what the hackers say about Macs -- they implant a virus, and there it is in memory, exactly where they want it to be. It's actually *easy* to hack. There's just no benefit in doing it.
Right now, Windows 7 is the best OS that MS has produced and despite plenty of problems, I think that it looks good for the future. How many viruses did you get on Vista? Well, not a lot of people WENT to Vista, but those that did -- it's not a high percentage. There are a lot more tools in place to protect your computer now, and Windows 7 should do well here. The comparisons Apple always draws are against an OS that is at its root, about 10 years old. Now that they have a new shiny OS, Apple's attacks won't work much longer, and they are just going to look stupid trying it.
Plus with the added pressure of the FCC (and hopefully some bigtime fines), Apple's learning the hard way that they can't force **** down people's throats like MS did in the past either, just because they have shiny packaging and a "genius bar".
First, there's no profit motive to bother attacking Mac users. What will you get? An attack vector of maybe 5% of users, and access to their digital video and audio collection?
Do you really believe this yourself? There a plenty of people out there hating Apple. They would love to be able to create a virus that attacks the mac community, just to proof to them it's possible. But... it still hasn't happened. Not because nobody tried, but because they have not succeeded.
Without a doubt macs are far more secure than windows. But if you know what you're doing and you don't mind sacrificing some CPU time and money to anti-virus software, then please ... continue to use windows.
I used it since windows 3.1, but finally switched over a few years back. And once you see the beauty of MacOSX, you realize what a piece of crap windows is. But, everybody has a choice, and that's the most important thing!
Call me when it can play games, have the highest performance hardware and can be overclocked.
First, there's no profit motive to bother attacking Mac users. What will you get? An attack vector of maybe 5% of users, and access to their digital video and audio collection?
Do you really believe this yourself? There a plenty of people out there hating Apple. They would love to be able to create a virus that attacks the mac community, just to proof to them it's possible. But... it still hasn't happened. Not because nobody tried, but because they have not succeeded.
Without a doubt macs are far more secure than windows. But if you know what you're doing and you don't mind sacrificing some CPU time and money to anti-virus software, then please ... continue to use windows.
I used it since windows 3.1, but finally switched over a few years back. And once you see the beauty of MacOSX, you realize what a piece of crap windows is. But, everybody has a choice, and that's the most important thing!
sorry, did you read this?
In very general terms, it's kind of like buying a burger at McDonald's or BK or wherever, versus going out of your way to find a higher priced restaurant & ordering one... Same main ingredient, both feed your hunger, but the restaurant happily convinced you to spend more. They obviously serve fewer customers, but make more profit per sale. The restaurant, because of it's lower volume can't offer the same variety, same fast service, & they're clearly less convenient, but just as clearly some people would rather spend their money there than at the Wendy's across the street.
Die hard Apple folks aren't going anywhere else but their higher priced restaurant so-to-speak. PC folks laugh at them because they spend far less, for far more choices, far easier. It's the very nature of the 2 different markets, & changing someone's nature is not going to happen easily -- or often.
"1000's of viruses" is the best they could come up with? Why not Millions or Billions of viruses? So uncreative...
They aren't relevant to how we actually use computers, nor can we extract any kind of important information from ads. Seeing ads in the first place is annoying.
I'm just curious why ad campaigns seem to make the headlines.
Why don't you fit every program on that dock. that dock is user for frequently used stuff. Where is your brain? You just can't fit every program there...and that is what I was refering to when I said the start menu is an easy access to "ALL" your programs. Win 7 superbar works in a similar way ad the mac dock. btw all windows machines can download the mac dock for free....
Ok, I can see that you are jumping to conclusions. The dock holds the programs you want to use the most. It doesn’t hold all the programs you have on your computer. Well you can try to fit all of them on your dock but that would clutter up the dock now wouldn’t it. As I was saying before, the Windows Start menu is a more sophisticated way to access “ALL” your programs. Not just the ones you use most. As a reminder, I was not talking about the out-of-box experience, I was referring to the large size of the iMac and saying it looked like a Flintstones tablet sitting on the desk. My whole idea about what I wrote was that Mac really has not changed since 2001 and that they need to get with the current trends to boost sale. OSX is almost 10 years old… Where is OS11 or OSXI? Anyway, there are also 2 viruses for Mac spotted within one month. There will be more to come and btw, the viruses are on those sex sites and they are also claiming to be other programs when they are actually a virus.
"I'm tired of Mac commercial bashing Windows."
If I remember correctly, the last few 'find a PC and we will pay for it' had the person saying "I'm not cool enough to be a Mac person" while also referring to the high price. PC commercials do not actually state any benefits to owning a PC vs a Mac, yet Mac commercials do. Therefore, I would have to say Mac commercials are more informative.
"Macs don't get viruses only because people don't use them as much as Windows"
This argument has been going on for a long time along with the same argument about Linux (which is what I use BTW). I put it this way to people: Whether Mac/Linux is more secure or less exploited because small user-base, that doesn't change the fact Mac/Linux gets fewer viruses than Windows. Some of you may say 'I haven't gotten a virus in Windows for years'. That may be true for those of you who have the expertise and proper software to deter viruses. Mac/Linux doesn't require either of those to avoid viruses, and no matter how careful you are you are still more susceptible to viruses running Windows.
"And it's not the best OS ever made.... it doesn't have easy access to your programs like the Windows Start menu. If you ask me, I would think Apple is getting behind."
This refers to the post above mine. This is just hilarious. MacOSX easily has Vista beaten with functionality. Vista is often referred to as the operating system that has massive incompatibilities and high performance requirements while only having pretty graphics to show for it. MacOSX also has massive incompatibilities and high performance requirements compared to MacOS9, but has the functionality to warrant the change.
OS comparisons: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/apple-...vista,1985.html
"Mac computers are more expensive"
It does seem that way does it? In reality, Mac simply does not build cheap computers. However, if you compare an Apple computer vs an equivalent DELL computer, you will find that the Apple computer actually is a little cheaper and probably has better made parts. I can't argue that some Macbooks overheat. I never said that Mac was perfect either...no company is.
The Mac cost misconception: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/apple-...vista,1985.html
I'm sure I forgot a few. Bring up a few original points and I will try to rebut them too. Funny thing is I don't actually own a Mac.
I have to admit that this point is hard to argue. You can find cases where a particular laptop is cheaper or more expensive than it should be and then make an unfair comparison for either side. Also, when you compare two laptops with the same capability, how do you compare the quality of the parts? I have neither the expertise nor the time to argue this point.
His image:
Coke bottle glasses feverishly fogging over,
Sweaty Fingers sticking to keys as he gleefully shows his arrogance in verse
Every 4th word stops to touch his 12 inch statue of Steve Jobs for inspiration!
Moving faster now, keys moving magically extolling his Tech Superiority!
Then...
His mother calls down to the basement to tell her loving 34 year old son living in her basement
his MAC & cheese is done!
After all Mother bought his MAC, he better be a good boy!
TROLL....
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