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Andrew Lyle   on 09 September 2009 - 17:57 · 96 comments & 9553 views

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Today at Apple's "Let's rock and roll" event in San Francisco, they officially announced the updated iTunes, releasing version 9.

iTunes 9 comes with Genius Mixes, with more than 54 billion songs to choose from, helping consumers find new music that relates to current library. Apple also announced Genius DJ built into iTunes 9 that seeks out songs and creates a playlist for endless possibilities, great for parties.

iTunes 9 also improves syncing with devices, for your iPhone and iPod Touch. Users can sync by artists, playlists, genres, and more possibilities. Apple also announced that iTunes now offers Home Sharing, allowing users to copy songs, movies, TV shows and more, for up to five computers around your house.

iTunes 9 comes with a built in application sorting feature for the iPhone and iPod Touch, allowing users to customize the layout of their device directly from their computer, without having to painstakingly move dozens of applications and games around. The built in feature should make users organize their devices a little easier.

Users will also be able to share what they are listening to or watching via Twitter and Facebook.

Download: Download iTunes 9.0


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(1 reply) #1 +0sm3l on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:18

Downloading now

3.1 is live as well!

Last edited by 0sm3l on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:25
#1.1 bbfc_uk on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:54
Downloading 3.1 now!
(8 replies) #2 Blindlabel013 on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:23
No FLAC support still? /yawn.
#2.1 nullie on 09 Sep 2009 - 19:19
FLAC is an obscure non-standardized format. Regardless if it's specification and encoder/decoder libraries are open source, major applications like Windows and Windows Media Player, Quick Time and iTunes, etc will never support those formats. Heck there's not even protection in case FLAC violates some patent or other companies IP. Not worth looking at.
#2.2 Tempest on 09 Sep 2009 - 20:26
No offense, but you don't get out much if you think FLAC is obscure. Very myopic words you write about something you obviously know very little about. Several legit websites offer FLAC downloads and the quality is amazing.
#2.3 Tekkerson on 09 Sep 2009 - 22:37
I've seen more wav than flac for downloading... but I do agree it's not so totally "obscure"...
#2.4 Jugalator on 10 Sep 2009 - 08:05
Blindlabel013 said,
No FLAC support still? /yawn.

Heh, don't hold your breath for this in any mainstream music service.

Too much work/bandwidth for too small demographies.
#2.5 Julius Caro on 10 Sep 2009 - 09:36
Blindlabel013 said,
No FLAC support still? /yawn.


^ if the demographies are too small, the bandwidth is not that high. Besides, they sell movies too, which are a lot more bandwidth-hungry.
But IMO 320kbps~ish lossy is perfectly fine
#2.6 Jugalator on 10 Sep 2009 - 10:12
Tempest said,
No offense, but you don't get out much if you think FLAC is obscure. Very myopic words you write about something you obviously know very little about. Several legit websites offer FLAC downloads and the quality is amazing.

OTOH, if you think you hear a difference between 320 kbps mp3 (or heck, even 256 kbps) and FLAC, it's very very likely placebo.
#2.7 Jugalator on 10 Sep 2009 - 10:14
Julius Caro said,
^ if the demographies are too small, the bandwidth is not that high. Besides, they sell movies too, which are a lot more bandwidth-hungry.
But IMO 320kbps~ish lossy is perfectly fine

Oh, you misunderstand me. I meant that few want it. You don't hear major outrages about lacking FLAC on iTunes. So there's a small demography who *wants* it. But since we're talking iTunes here, if that was offered to all iTunes users across the board, that would be a huge cost for a small want.
#2.8 HawkMan on 10 Sep 2009 - 14:59
The advantage of FLAC isn't that it's better to listen to than 320 VBR MP3 or high quality compressed WMA. BUT FLAC/lossless WMA and the apple crap, does have the advantage that since they are lossless, they can be transcoded INTO other high quality lossy formats.

so when you change from your iPod, and yoru locked in files, you can convert them into a new more modern lossy format with same or better quality and better compression. or you can transcode without quality loss to MP3/WMA/AAC when you move the song to your device, whatever the device is. handy with the hardware accelerated auto transcoding built into 7 for example.
#3 Medfordite on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:24
Servers are hammered right now...Might want to be patient with the download.
(2 replies) #4 Chosen One on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:30
any jailbreak out yet?
#4.1 +0sm3l on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:33
are you kidding? lol
#4.2 HolyOne on 09 Sep 2009 - 21:43
Chosen One said,
any jailbreak out yet?


I don't think they're that fast lol.
(12 replies) #5 MistaT40 on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:30
No Win 7 support yet still - disappointing
#5.1 KamiQuazi on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:36
MistaT40 said,
No Win 7 support yet still - disappointing

Im running it under Windows 7 Professional and it runs fine.
#5.2 Bemani Dog on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:48
Win 7 isn't officially released, so that would just confuse (some) people. It'll work.
#5.3 bbfc_uk on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:53
But it makes use of the new taskbar - Media Controls and Task Lists are now available!
#5.4 MistaT40 on 09 Sep 2009 - 19:20
I just installed it and yes my mistake, it does support Jumplist on Win 7. It just didn't say Win7 when I was on the page.
#5.5 Andrew Lyle on 09 Sep 2009 - 19:51
I am running just fine under Windows 7..

Had to reboot to install it, close both Word and outlook for it to install correctly.
#5.6 Julius Caro on 09 Sep 2009 - 20:06
Andrew Lyle said,
I am running just fine under Windows 7..

Had to reboot to install it, close both Word and outlook for it to install correctly.


really? I didnt have to reboot or close anything (other than itunes, though it didnt ask me to i just closed it anyway for obvious reasons)

#5.7 dimithrak on 09 Sep 2009 - 20:59
KamiQuazi said,
Im running it under Windows 7 Professional and it runs fine.


Runs ok.. not so smooth.. thought they would make it as efficient as safari was... but its still looks dam nice.. and the options are great.. love the new UI..
#5.8 +TCLN Ryster on 09 Sep 2009 - 21:27
Bemani Dog said,
Win 7 isn't officially released, so that would just confuse (some) people. It'll work.

Not true.

It's true that Windows 7 isn't official released through the retail channel yet. However that isn't the only channel. Theres Technet, MSDN, MSDN AA, Volume License and Beta Participants. All just as legitimate as retail.

Any word yet if they've including updated drivers for older iPods on Win 7 yet? With the drivers that came with iTunes 8.2, the iPod would show up in windows for a split second after connecting, and then it would disappear almost immediately, like it was being auto-ejected.

Last edited by TCLN Ryster on 09 Sep 2009 - 21:36
#5.9 +TCLN Ryster on 09 Sep 2009 - 22:16
TCLN Ryster said,
Any word yet if they've including updated drivers for older iPods on Win 7 yet? With the drivers that came with iTunes 8.2, the iPod would show up in windows for a split second after connecting, and then it would disappear almost immediately, like it was being auto-ejected.

After testing, the answer to that question is a resounding YES!. Looks like iTunes 9 now fully supports Windows 7 from what I can see. iPod Video and iPod Shuffle first gen now work 100% on Windows 7 64bit.
#5.10 Sartoris on 10 Sep 2009 - 00:32
TCLN Ryster said,
Not true.

It's true that Windows 7 isn't official released through the retail channel yet. However that isn't the only channel. Theres Technet, MSDN, MSDN AA, Volume License and Beta Participants. All just as legitimate as retail.

Any word yet if they've including updated drivers for older iPods on Win 7 yet? With the drivers that came with iTunes 8.2, the iPod would show up in windows for a split second after connecting, and then it would disappear almost immediately, like it was being auto-ejected.


Yes, true. Official release = retail release in this case.
Don't expect to see 3rd party win7 branding until October.
#5.11 Julius Caro on 10 Sep 2009 - 09:43
- http://www.securew2.com/node/30 : Do you see the big "compatible with windows7?"

- http://www.nvidia.com/object/windows_7_overview.html . Do you see it there too?

OH MY GODZ¡¡¡¡ it must be october!!! by the time windows 7 releases it will be almost christmas!!

They're not idiots. They know windows 7 is out there. The "compatible with 7 program" has been around for quite some time already. Do you think vendors dont work with windows7 until after the release? Come on. They've been working on it since before the beta.

#5.12 BorkisDrizzt on 11 Sep 2009 - 08:29
Actually, Champions Online has Windows 7 listed as a supported OS
(3 replies) #6 Calum on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:34
So they didn't update the interface to look more consistent with Safari 4 on Windows? Don't officially support Windows 7? Haven't taken advantage of the Windows 7 taskbar APIs? Disappointing!

The Safari 4 team appears to now be far ahead of the iTunes team, but the sad truth is, they should be at the same level.

Last edited by Calum on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:39
#6.1 bbfc_uk on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:42
I like the new interface, its very iPhone-esque -way better than the way Safari looks! It also includes the Media Controls and Task List on the taskbar.
#6.2 Chewbob on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:51
Calum said,
So they didn't update the interface to look more consistent with Safari 4 on Windows? Don't officially support Windows 7? Haven't taken advantage of the Windows 7 taskbar APIs? Disappointing!

The Safari 4 team appears to now be far ahead of the iTunes team, but the sad truth is, they should be at the same level.


It has made use of the Windows 7 taskbar APIs.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9140/itunesvy.png
#6.3 Calum on 09 Sep 2009 - 19:13
bbfc_uk said,
I like the new interface, its very iPhone-esque -way better than the way Safari looks!

Each to their own I just think they should be consistent with their Windows software, as they are with their Mac software.

Interface consistency is one thing where MS slip up and it's what I admire about Macs.

bbfc_uk said,
It also includes the Media Controls and Task List on the taskbar.


Chewbob said,
It has made use of the Windows 7 taskbar APIs.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9140/itunesvy.png


Thanks guys I was going off what somebody else told me, but I'm glad they have made use of those APIs.
(2 replies) #7 nunjabusiness on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:49
54 "BILLION"???

Really? Billion? Pretty hard to imagine that.
#7.1 a1ien on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:57
Yeah... I'm pretty sure that 54 billion unique digital songs don't exist. The figure is probably in the millions.
#7.2 Iridium on 10 Sep 2009 - 00:36
Yeah i think someone has made a gaffe or is this another Apple Fable, oh well may as well just believe it right
#8 Titoist on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:51
It's not showing up in Apple Software Update
#9 Kameleont on 09 Sep 2009 - 18:55
It does have Windows 7 JumpList support... heh.

edit: Didn't see someone already mentioned it, sorry.
(5 replies) #10 Deihmos on 09 Sep 2009 - 19:15
Is it just me or is this program extremely laggy on PC?
#10.1 +callum:mr on 09 Sep 2009 - 19:25
Deihmos said,
Is it just me or is this program extremely laggy on PC?

Not any more it seems.
#10.2 M_Lyons10 on 09 Sep 2009 - 20:07
callum:mr said,
Not any more it seems.


Is it more laggy than iTunes 8? I know that the speed had improved from earlier releases... If 9 is laggy again, I might hold off...
#10.3 Andrew Lyle on 09 Sep 2009 - 21:53
Seems faster to me for some reason. But iTunes has always been laggy
#10.4 Pam14160 on 10 Sep 2009 - 00:40
Not laggy here, running very good on win 7 x64 system.
#10.5 M_Lyons10 on 10 Sep 2009 - 23:50
Andrew Lyle said,
Seems faster to me for some reason. But iTunes has always been laggy


Yeah, I took the jump and it seems very responsive. The only issue I have is that I have it set to minimize as a toolbar in the Windows Vista Taskbar, and apparently 9 breaks the "Maximize" button... That kinda sucks... LOL I really hope they fix that soon...
(1 reply) #11 Julius Caro on 09 Sep 2009 - 19:18
Why all the fuss about the taskbar jumplist? Let it go already, and let's complain about things that actually matter, like the ugliest UI ever made.
#11.1 Pam14160 on 10 Sep 2009 - 00:40
It works, just try it.
(3 replies) #12 Deihmos on 09 Sep 2009 - 19:20
Apple has blocked the Palm Pre from Sync once again. I don't understand why Palm wants to use Itunes in the first place. It is soo slow and lack so many basic funcitons.
#12.1 HolyOne on 09 Sep 2009 - 21:46
Deihmos said,
Apple has blocked the Palm Pre from Sync once again. I don't understand why Palm wants to use Itunes in the first place. It is soo slow and lack so many basic funcitons.


I would assume it's because iTunes is the most popular and widely used media player/digital distribution platform. It only makes sense that Palm would like to allow music syncing via iTunes instead of creating their own software specifically for that.
#12.2 Pc_Madness on 10 Sep 2009 - 02:52
Deihmos said,
Apple has blocked the Palm Pre from Sync once again. I don't understand why Palm wants to use Itunes in the first place. It is soo slow and lack so many basic funcitons.


What basic functions does iTunes lack?
#12.3 Deihmos on 10 Sep 2009 - 11:48
Can't monitor folders, can't read jpg album art and to top it off the program is extremely laggy.
(3 replies) #13 Julius Caro on 09 Sep 2009 - 19:22
oH my god. It's faster!!! I sh*t you not.
#13.1 +callum:mr on 09 Sep 2009 - 19:24
Julius Caro said,
oH my god. It's faster!!! I sh*t you not.

Much faster, something it's been needing for a long time.
#13.2 fmorel90 on 09 Sep 2009 - 19:34
Yeah, I think so too. Some interesting updates to the interface.
#13.3 Pam14160 on 10 Sep 2009 - 00:46
A he. . of a lot faster. I make up song list in 100 count folders, and where they usually take about 10 seconds to load into iTunes, I did for folders in about eight seconds. Great. . . . .
#14 +callum:mr on 09 Sep 2009 - 19:23
I certainly appreciate the Windows 7 taskbar controls, given I don't have media keys on my netbook, just on my desktop.
Can't say I've ever found myself using jumplists apart from once or twice with Word for recent documents.
The UI is horrific, but it's much faster at switching from Music to Movies and such, I must say.
If they made the new UI optional, this would be a pretty awesome update.
(5 replies) #15 Tom Bonez on 09 Sep 2009 - 19:23
Do love the new itunes style, tis pretty
#15.1 Andrew Lyle on 09 Sep 2009 - 21:55
On windows? It is god awful, apple really needs a new design
#15.2 Pam14160 on 10 Sep 2009 - 00:55
Andrew, is it really that bad, god awful, hmmmmmmm.

There are some cosmic chances, but nothing great.
#15.3 Andrew Lyle on 10 Sep 2009 - 02:13
They have been using the same ui since 1.0 and the same layout since 3.0. I've never seen a program that never changes its design after 9 versions...
#15.4 CL114C0777498D on 10 Sep 2009 - 08:48
i think the new skin is hideous. those gradients are gaudy. i'm not an apple fan, but i thought they were pushing subtle gradients and tasteful design. and then itunes 9 came out. it burns my eyes. hopefully there will be a way to return it to a tolerable state, because my phone forces me to use it.
#15.5 Julius Caro on 10 Sep 2009 - 09:44
it *REALLY* is that bad

(1 reply) #16 PsykX on 09 Sep 2009 - 19:24
Is this Cocoa on Mac OS X?
Since they have switched most of their apps in Snow Leopard to Cocoa, I would think iTunes 9 is Cocoa, thus is much faster than before (which is very easy to beat ) under the Mac platform
#16.1 PureLegend on 10 Sep 2009 - 05:50
It's not 64-bit, which may be a hint.
(2 replies) #17 Deihmos on 09 Sep 2009 - 19:25
can it now monitor folders?
#17.1 Pam14160 on 10 Sep 2009 - 00:57
No. Anyway don't see anything that does.
#17.2 Deihmos on 10 Sep 2009 - 01:30
That truly suucks for an 88MB download. The only reason this program is so popular is because Apple brain washed the masses into buying gimped ipods.
(2 replies) #18 Rix on 09 Sep 2009 - 19:59
Any links for the 64bit version? Link on the webpage leads to a 404
#18.1 Pam14160 on 10 Sep 2009 - 01:02
Don't see it. Even though iTunes offers x64 support it does not have a x64 version.

In Windows Task Manager with Win 7 x64 it still shows the following:

iTunes.exe *32 121,752 K iTunes.
#18.2 Pc_Madness on 10 Sep 2009 - 02:54
Rix said,
Any links for the 64bit version? Link on the webpage leads to a 404


Should be up now I think?
#19 Mav Phoenix on 09 Sep 2009 - 20:23
Users will also be able to share what they are listening to or watching via Twitter and Facebook.

I think that only works from things you're browsing in the store, not your actual collection.
(4 replies) #20 djesteban on 09 Sep 2009 - 20:31
can't believe the hype for such a bloated piece of crap... >_<
#20.1 Stingray on 09 Sep 2009 - 21:39
djesteban said,
can't believe the hype for such a bloated piece of crap... >_<


Agreed.
#20.2 +TCLN Ryster on 09 Sep 2009 - 22:00
djesteban said,
can't believe the hype for such a bloated piece of crap... >_<

And yet here you are feeling the need to add a post to this thread full of "hype".
#20.3 DarkNovaGundam on 09 Sep 2009 - 22:09
TCLN Ryster said,
And yet here you are feeling the need to add a post to this thread full of "hype".


Are you saying that his/her opinion is less important due to the fact that that user doesn't like this software?

I believe everyones opinion counts here.

I personally find it to be bloated but I'll still use it.
#20.4 +TCLN Ryster on 09 Sep 2009 - 22:29
DarkNovaGundam said,
Are you saying that his/her opinion is less important due to the fact that that user doesn't like this software?

I believe everyones opinion counts here.

I personally find it to be bloated but I'll still use it.

Not saying that at all. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of his/her post. Complaining about the hype, and contributing to a thread full of "hype" in the same sentence.

And for the record, after using it for about an hour, I'm finding iTunes 9 a vast improvement over iTunes 8 on my Windows 7 PC. Much less laggy, the theme has been tweaked and looks nicer, and they finally fixed the scrolling issue with mouse wheels (ie. now it actually does scroll as you roll the wheel rather than having to spin the wheel several rotations to get it to scroll). Oh and I LOVE the ability to re-arrange the icons on my iPhone from within iTunes now. Very handy.
(1 reply) #21 +Xerxes on 09 Sep 2009 - 22:31
What a huge disappointment! I was hoping for a complete overhaul of the UI for the Windows version (in line with Safari 4)...
#21.1 +Xerxes on 11 Sep 2009 - 01:44
Actually, I partially take back my original comment I've installed it now and it's not half bad at all however, it's still too Mac-ish for my liking. I was hoping for a more native Windows look and feel (like Safari 4) hence the disappointment...
(2 replies) #22 ]SK[ on 09 Sep 2009 - 23:05
How many times... NO I don't want ****ing Safari to install at the same time!
#22.1 bbfc_uk on 10 Sep 2009 - 09:13
Never asked me to install Safari with it!
#22.2 +Xerxes on 11 Sep 2009 - 01:46
Does for me and always has it selected by default! so if I didn't pay attention, Safari would of been installed too...I don't mind Safari (have it installed on my Win7 machine) but I don't like having it forced upon me.
(1 reply) #23 PGHammer on 09 Sep 2009 - 23:35
Also, it properly detects x64 Windows (finally).

While this isn't the first 64-bit iTunes, you had to install it manually before (especially if, as usual, you were using IE x32 to navigate to the download page).

#23.1 bbfc_uk on 10 Sep 2009 - 09:15
I've never had a problem installing the x64 version in the past - just downloaded the installer and double-clicked, voilà!
#24 vetbangbang023 on 09 Sep 2009 - 23:56
Where's the last.fm support? I can't find it anywhere in the UI.
(1 reply) #25 Shiranui on 10 Sep 2009 - 01:21
No thanks. Bring on the new Zune software!
#25.1 Dashel on 10 Sep 2009 - 13:21
+1
#26 Joshie on 10 Sep 2009 - 02:05
I still don't understand how this is any different from WMP from the screenshot. I've only ever seen iTunes on other people's computers since I personally think the UI is gross, but I hear all this stuff about playlist organization being superior, yet it all looks pretty much identical to me. Whether that's MS copying or not, it doesn't change the fact that at first glance, I might as well stick with the faster WMP.

Not to mention, why the heck are the play controls in the upper left? Those things should be at the bottom, at least in the Windows version where everything (ie., taskbar and start menu) defaults to bottom-oriented. Not to mention the controls even on an iPod are physically on the bottom of the face... just seems more natural.
#27 +Nightwind Hawk on 10 Sep 2009 - 03:09
I can't install just itunes64.msi... rather than the entire bloated suite. It keeps saying it fails and is unable to install. QTA is installed and i uninstalled everything beforehand.

Anybody else having this problem???
#28 bbfc_uk on 10 Sep 2009 - 09:16
Loving the new iTunes store layout - its much better to navigate and samples still play when you navigate to a different page!

They got rid of the 'Shopping Basket' though, which has slightly annoyed me!
#29 ThomMcK on 10 Sep 2009 - 09:27
I don't like iTunes. I don't have an iPod so I'm not that bothered. I have to have it installed because someone got me a £20 iTunes gift card :-(

My one single wish is that they would use a large icon for Windows. It puts one on your desktop without asking and has the audacity to be smaller and uglier than everything else.
#30 +Glorious on 10 Sep 2009 - 09:48
Had to install this crap to setup a replacement iPod Nano, back to managing by Winamp and ml_ipod now
#31 timljohns on 10 Sep 2009 - 10:01
Article says "54 BILLION" songs....

Really.... ??? Guessing that should be million, which even then is a LOT.
Think of how many songs you know... I mean really know, if you heard them.
Most people would be able to recognise MAYBE a few thousand songs.

Are there really 54 BILLION songs in existence.
And if so... I want to see pics of the server farm that holds them all... all 54 BILLION, just waiting for the off chance that song 37,546,367,911 gets purchased... LOL
#32 Zyxel112 on 10 Sep 2009 - 10:02
the windows version has windows 7 support
has jumplist tasks
and play buttons on thumbnail preview
#33 tuxplorer on 10 Sep 2009 - 13:25
They'll release 9.1 in a few days and I'll have to download the bloated installer again. I've stopped downloading Apple bloatware until they start releasing "updates".
#34 daddy_spank on 10 Sep 2009 - 16:24
Lol. 54 billion songs. Yeah right.
#35 Dc'1 on 10 Sep 2009 - 17:13
Usually a version jump that big should mean some sort of... Big update.
It's not :/
Apple really need to make a new UI this one gets boring after how many years
#36 M_Lyons10 on 10 Sep 2009 - 23:46
Hm... I installed iTunes 9... The only issue I've found so far is that it broke the iTunes integration with the Windows Vista Taskbar. I have mine set as it's own toolbar when minimized, and it no longer allows you to then maximize iTunes again... That's really annoying... I hope they fix that soon.
#37 virtorio on 11 Sep 2009 - 04:39
Why is scrolling in iTunes 9 like playing Crysis on a Pentium 166?

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