Zune HD to remain US only, for now

Microsoft has gone on record saying that the Zune HD will remain a US device only. This means that if you are anywhere outside of the US then you will not see the Zune HD for some time as Microsoft may be testing the markets.

"For the time being the Zune HD device will remain US only. Right now we are focused on deploying an exciting service in the form of Zune Video to 18 markets. We are looking at potential future hardware experiences for these markets, but do not have anything to announce right now"

The Zune HD, which launches on September 15th, will be a serious competitor to the iPod touch. With some serious specs that will make any gadget lover happy, Microsoft is looking to gain some market share from Apple. Apple has dominated all segments of the mp3 player market for some time and the previous offerings from Microsoft did little to knock Apple from the top.

The likelihood is that Microsoft will take the Zune HD to international markets at some point in the near future. With a lot of hype surrounding the impending launch, Microsoft may be delaying the international launch to make sure supplies are adequate for US consumers.

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Nice, thank you MS, I was hesitant about getting ipod touch or zune hd, now you give me the answer. Goodbye, zune hd.

I thought the whole big deal was that Zube was laucnhing in Europe at the same time as the HD launch?!

Uber odd - the longer Microsoft leave it, the less chance they have of making any impact on the European market.

I don't want a Zune in the first place. You take one of those out at a party instead of an iPod and all the women walk away.

Steve Jobs knows what the b****es want.

toadeater said,
I don't want a Zune in the first place. You take one of those out at a party instead of an iPod and all the women walk away.

Steve Jobs knows what the b****es want.


I wanna see what kind of woman is with a man because of his iPod! Or are you using some symbolism here, and iPod means something else? LOL

Anyway, I would believe the women thing if you're 20yo or less. That would explain your story.

How disappointing... I need to upgrade my mp3 player and had held out for the ZuneHD... For such a large international company, they don't seem to be so "international" these days.

All you people arguing over the fact that the Zune is only available in the US are a bunch of retards! Who cares, if you want one, buy it. If you aren't or live outside the US, shut up. These boards are constantly filled with BS from people arguing MS or Apple, or attacking Microsoft in some way shape or form. Grow the F up!

Eddie ELZ said,
All you people arguing over the fact that the Zune is only available in the US are a bunch of retards! Who cares, if you want one, buy it. If you aren't or live outside the US, shut up. These boards are constantly filled with BS from people arguing MS or Apple, or attacking Microsoft in some way shape or form. Grow the F up!


+1

You're right, and even when I'm not in the US I'm still able to buy one online. Ok, the shipping cost and the import tax is an extra, but I think MS is not wrong doing this at all . The US is the first marketing test.

About the losing of some features, Zunepass? I have never used it before, there're many places from where to buy online music. Marketplace? I only would use it for software and games but I'm sure somebody will create the way to add software and games to the ZuneHD without using the Marketplace

I was afraid of this, that is why I preordered mine in the US. I suppose they want to make sure that all pieces are together before the international launch

**** it, I aint waiting. My iPod recently broke after years of good service and I was waiting on a Zune. Looks like Apple can get one more purchase out of me.

This has NOTHING to do with the EU, so why mention it!

The Zune HD WILL NOT be a serious competitor to the iPod Touch because its only available in the US!

Disappointing, but I can't say I'm surprised. One of the distinguishing features of the Zune HD, the HD Radio, is US only and there's been no indication that it would be replaced with DAB for other markets.

There's still the other fantastic features and the beautiful interface which benefits us users in other countries. I certainly wouldn't mind the radio functionality not working - that's probably the thing I'd use least, if at all.

Not anymore! The last time I checked, iPod Touch 32 GB took the top spot! :P

But seriously, this Zune HD is going to fail. Not even available in Canada? And not to mention, when MS did sell Zunes there, I haven't seen anyone with one. Virtually all iPods and the odd SanDisk and Creative player here and there.

This product is stillborn, the marketing manager has already run for the hills, they killed off non-US markets just days before launch, etc... Too bad as the Zune software is awesome, but the players so far are nothing special and while the Zune HD is marginally more interesting it's still an "also ran" against the iPod Touch. And yes I know it has slightly, marginally better specs but it doesn't matter what you put in the box if MS handle it the way they did the first couple passes at the Zune (which they clearly are doing again).

neo158 said,
Yeah, that would be the one in bold in my post above yours!!!!


You're saying that like I should've seen it. That post is timestamped 12 Sep 2009 - 16:20, mine is from 11 Sep 2009 - 16:16.

My connection speed isn't so fast that it travels through time and shows posts before they're made.

"The Zune HD, which launches on September 15th, will be a serious competitor to the iPod touch."

Zune...serious competitor...iPod.... ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't wait to watch the Microsoft Zune fail yet again. Wonder what the failure rate of the Microsoft Zune HD will be? 54+% to match the Microsoft XBox 360?

pc_tool said,
"The Zune HD, which launches on September 15th, will be a serious competitor to the iPod touch."

Zune...serious competitor...iPod.... ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't wait to watch the Microsoft Zune fail yet again. Wonder what the failure rate of the Microsoft Zune HD will be? 54+% to match the Microsoft XBox 360?

Wow...


Your name suits you.
The Zune is a rock. IPods fail far more often.

This is a stupid move by Microsoft to only release it in the States.

ahhell said,
Your name suits you.
The Zune is a rock. IPods fail far more often.

This is a stupid move by Microsoft to only release it in the States.

Don't say such silly things, the Zune failure rate is about on par with most portable media devices, but some models have had higher failure rates. For that matter, didn't MS accidentally brick all the 30gb models this spring when the 3.x software came out? I don't recall as I had a 16gb Zune at the time, but I recall the Zune forums being rather busy.

bob_c_b said,

Don't say such silly things, the Zune failure rate is about on par with most portable media devices, but some models have had higher failure rates. For that matter, didn't MS accidentally brick all the 30gb models this spring when the 3.x software came out? I don't recall as I had a 16gb Zune at the time, but I recall the Zune forums being rather busy.

Your cluelessness is showing.
The "bricking" that you are trolling about was a 1 day thing caused by a bug in 3rd party date software (calculated the year incorrectly). BFD.

Well, as a business stand point, it makes sense. They cannot just open a product into a world dominated by Apple. The most obvious penetration from any country would be the US/Canada. I think MSFT is just waiting to see how it does before sending it out anywhere.

I just cannot understand why Microsoft would not go full throttle in the mp3 players market: from everything we heard, the Zune HD is an excellent device so why are they getting cold feet now?
Keeping the Zune HD in the US only is going to hurt the Zune HD everywhere: not only outside the US because it's not there but also in the US as the customers will believe that the Zune HD has no future since it's not available worldwide.

Et merde ...

That really sucks for everyone who wanted to get their hands on it from out of country.

I don't think Microsoft is making a bad decision for themselves though. Supporting larger markets means they will have to invest a lot more in production in order to meet the projected demands of those markets. Additionally there is no doubt other costs they are considering (and I think the EU helped a great deal in pushing MS away from the Europe market). Since they are the newbies in the market, they want to test the water in the US to get a better sense of what kind of profits they will be making.

If the device is a success, more countries will get it. If it flops in the US, then they just have to support their small customer base in the US for a few years and then bail out of the market.

The main issue is: we can purchase the Zune HD off Amazon in the USA, the problem is not being able to use the marketplace or Zune Pass. I so wanted to upgrade my Zune80 but now I'll just stick to it until MS will understand they have lost a major chance to give Apple some heat in their monopoly in Europe.

I think the reason for this is simple. People are just in rage mode right now and can't take the time to think it over. How can MS release the ZuneHD device itself in a market where it doesn't have the ability to run the marketplace that complements the device?

And this isn't a technical issue either, it's pure licensing BS from the record labels and so on. MS wants to be able to offer you the zune marketplace with your zunehd, but atm, the marketplace isn't able to run in the UK or EU etc, mostly do to some lame greedy copyright reasons.

It'll happen, in time, I just hope it doesn't take too long.

I really couldn't be more disappointed. When I was using iTunes, the ID3 tags in my tracks became corrupt/damaged somehow and these tracks wouldn't play in iTunes until I converted them (which lost the artwork and other tags), even though I have an iPod touch, I decided to stop using iTunes and start using the incredible Zune software in the hope that I would get a Zune HD when they are released (seeing as Microsoft hinted considerably that the Zune HD would be international and made it seem like that would happen at launch). So now, because of some incident with my tracks, I now have an iPod I cannot update and all my latest library in the Zune software. IT would take me ages to put all of my tracks back into that awful iTunes and find artwork for them all again/rate all the ones I love (I rate them so my playlists shuffle decent songs and I don't have to skip as much).

Brilliant...

Why can't they just give us the damn Zune HD!? They've teased us with it long enough and we could be waiting ages now. Nice idea Microsoft; way to lose some of your supporters! You know the UK market, at least, is ready for the Zune HD so you have no excuse!

No problem. I'll just get my dad to buy me one and ship one over to the UK.
Bought my Zune 30 while I was in the US, bought it back to the UK, guess I'll do the same with this.

StealMySoda said,
No problem. I'll just get my dad to buy me one and ship one over to the UK.
Bought my Zune 30 while I was in the US, bought it back to the UK, guess I'll do the same with this.

And then come to the conclusion you can't use half of the features because you're in the UK. :P

Actually the only two things that won't work are the marketplace, no big deal, just get your music elsewhere and the HD part of the radio, it'll still function as an FM radio.

Radish� said,
Damn, was looking forward to getting one :(

Radish�

Urgh, same here I was planning to get this over an iPod touch :

Unimatrix Xero said,
this is total BS, i want a Zune HD i have the cash and imin the UK, when will MS learn that they have customers outside the US

EU is to blame here. They extort US companies.

thenonhacker said,
EU is to blame here. They extort US companies.

US companies, including Microsoft, should follow the laws of the countries they're active in. It's that simple.

thenonhacker said,
EU is to blame here. They extort US companies.

Tell that to the thousands of other companies releasing devices in the UK, including of course Apple

I'm starting to wonder if there is something wrong with the FM tuner in the thing... because it seems it can't tune "even" frequencies like 90.2, 100.4, etc... in the USA our modulation is always on an odd number 92.5, 99.1, 100.3, etc... and if you take a zune to a country that has even numbers it doesnt seem to like to tune to the even ones

Long live iPods in Europe I guess.

That's one thing I love about Apple, how they do the keynote, and *Bang* the products are avaliable in most markets almost immediately.

This will kill the Zune yet again. The iPod market is too strong around the world to let the Zune HD shine only in the States.

I was planning on getting a Zune HD, but I'm in Canada, so luck. But the new iPod Touch 3gen are in stores, right now.

Well too bad. I was going to give it a chance after buying only iPods the past few years but I'm not waiting for a device that may remain unreleased to the rest of the world for god knows how long when the new iPod touch is out right now.

"The Zune HD, which launches on September 15th, will be a serious competitor to the iPod touch."

Actually, after this announcement it's clear that it won't be a serious competitor to the iPod touch. Great news for Apple as they can push their iPod touch and iTunes Store products even further without anyone giving them too much too worry about in Europe, Australia and Asia. With the Zune HD Microsoft is already two years behind them, guess that gap will become even bigger.

It's a shame really, it would have been nice if Apple got some real competition from another quality product forcing them to innovate.

bob_c_b said,
Yea, whole will MS copy next year if Apple doesn't bring something radically new to the table?

Yea cause touchscreens and a button or two weren't around before Apple, nor was music or videos. Get your head out of the ground.

Well, good move. For Apple. My father planned on buying a Zune but without a date for Europe he will most likely get an iPod Touch.

sad, i was looking to buy one once it comes to india :-( now i need to ask my frnds to buy one & bring it once they come in once in 3months..

Whats the problem for MS to market it worldwide? is there any serious issue with Zune software for worldwide store? if so they can disable few functionality in UI?

bluewind. said,
Such an absurd move. At least give your self a chance to compete in a bigger market.

Can you really blame them though considering all the hell EU gave them over windows 7. Knowing the EU they are going to want the damn thing to support iTunes as well.

Gotenks98 said,
Can you really blame them though considering all the hell EU gave them over windows 7. Knowing the EU they are going to want the damn thing to support iTunes as well.

In the process they're also loosing half a billion potential customers. And since when does the EU cover the rest of the continent, Canada, Asia, Australia, Africa and South America?

.Neo said,
In the process they're also loosing half a billion potential customers. And since when does the EU cover the rest of the continent, Canada, Asia, Australia, Africa and South America?

There's more money and market potential in Europe than in South America.

Gotenks98 said,
Can you really blame them though considering all the hell EU gave them over windows 7. Knowing the EU they are going to want the damn thing to support iTunes as well.

Yeah I can blame them because last I checked the EU didn't comprise the entirety of the 'world outside America'

It's sad how all of you are uninformed about the windows 7 / EU issue. The EU didn't force them to do anything, really. Microsoft said "ok, let's remove internet explorer". Then they said "okay, let's not sell upgrade versions of windows". Then the EU said "that's not what we ever asked for". Then Microsoft said. "Okay, we'll include a ballot screen". Then the EU said "oh, that sounds nice". Then microsoft said "nice? then we're not doing it anymore. we're back to IE on windows, upgrade versions, nothing changes".

That's what happened.

The reason they are not going to sell zune outside the US is because they don't sell. The US market is the only one in which people paid a little bit of attention to zune.

Sigh....

Surely Apple have tested the markets sufficiently with their iPod Touch for them to see the market for music players with nice screens and additional capabilities is strong.

TCLN Ryster said,
Sigh....

Surely Apple have tested the markets sufficiently with their iPod Touch for them to see the market for music players with nice screens and additional capabilities is strong.

Because the EU are such retards.

And Apple Keeps smiling bigger than ever before.

thenonhacker said,
Because the EU are such retards.


Hehehe... the EU are just not giving easily in to US corporations. Just because the US government is run (entirely so to speak) by US corporations doesn't mean that other governments should be. Microsoft wouldn't see any legal problems with entering the European market with Zune. Microsoft is a minor player in this market. So as long as they don't start bundling Zune with Windows I think they should be just fine. But it seems that they would rather like Apple to earn those money.

I would like to see the Zune HD go worldwide.. I guess they aren't ready for a global failure. Let's hope there is demand for the Zune HD

Andrew Lyle said,
I would like to see the Zune HD go worldwide.. I guess they aren't ready for a global failure. Let's hope there is demand for the Zune HD

If I were not already an iPhone user, I would certainly want a Zune HD if they were available.

_peder_ said,
And Apple Keeps smiling bigger than ever before.

Hehehe... the EU are just not giving easily in to US corporations.

Apple isn't a US corporation?

thenonhacker said,
Because the EU are such retards.

LOL - yeah Microsoft would probably have to release it in Europe without MP3 playback to allow a "level playing field" with Sony AAC and Apple DRM.