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Microsoft gives shareholders greater input on executive pay

Sam Symons   on 20 September 2009 - 03:21 · 19 comments & 3274 views

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Executive compensation can be quite a big deal if you're a shareholder with a company; as you'd expect, people want to be able to have a say on whether or not a high ranking member of an organization is getting paid at appropriate rates. Microsoft, the huge company that it is, is aware of this, and voted on Friday to allow its shareholders to have this very ability, according to CNET.

Microsoft's board voted for this to be approved, and from now on, a vote will be held every three years that will give shareholders their chance to make a mark; CNET stated that the vote will be advisory in nature, and the first of the advisory measures will be included in the upcoming shareholder meeting on November 19. Brad Smith, a Microsoft general counsel and board secretary, stated, "Given the interest in executive pay, we think it makes sense to encourage more dialogue with our shareholders on our compensation approach."

Aditi Mohapatra, a sustainability analyst with the Calvert Group, said, "We believe that establishing an advisory vote on compensation is a significant step in providing shareholders a voice on this important issue." This is related to the fact that a number of shareholder groups and unions have been encouraging a number of large companies to give shareholders more say in terms of pay. Microsoft is said to have worked with a range of its shareholders to produce this approach, some of which previously submitted proposals very similar to the voting system Microsoft has now included.

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(7 replies) #1 helios01 on 20 Sep 2009 - 04:42
If they provide a better balance and pay more to the engineers rather than the executives, maybe it will end up producing better products.
#1.1 excalpius on 20 Sep 2009 - 04:46
I'm not sure your position regarding one of the world's largest, most consistently profitable companies is supportable.
#1.2 brent3000 on 20 Sep 2009 - 05:08
must be a mac user... Cuz windows 7 and windows xp were works of art..
#1.3 cakesy on 20 Sep 2009 - 05:17
excalpius said,
I'm not sure your position regarding one of the world's largest, most consistently profitable companies is supportable.

Any anyway, Microsoft probably has one of the highest rates of engineers to managers in the world. Or at least it used to. I m sure that Microsoft pays their top rated engineers more than the managers. Bill was an engineer, after all.
#1.4 cakesy on 20 Sep 2009 - 05:18
brent3000 said,
must be a mac user... Cuz windows 7 and windows xp were works of art..

Why didn't you mention Vista in there? And what does being a mac user have to do with anything, unless you are saying that Windows users can't judge good OSes?
#1.5 dvb2000 on 20 Sep 2009 - 06:05
We have these shareholder "advisory" votes in Australia too.

Every time I've seen shareholders vote down pay increases the executives give them to themselves anyway.

They need to be legally binding IMHO !
#1.6 M_Lyons10 on 20 Sep 2009 - 22:08
helios01 said,
If they provide a better balance and pay more to the engineers rather than the executives, maybe it will end up producing better products.


From what I understand, Microsoft's pay across the board is supposed to be pretty good. I've never heard a complaint about their compensation actually.
#1.7 rfirth on 21 Sep 2009 - 02:15
cakesy said,
Any anyway, Microsoft probably has one of the highest rates of engineers to managers in the world. Or at least it used to.


They pay in the top 60th percentile.
#2 ccoltmanm on 20 Sep 2009 - 05:18
Software companies are in a unique position, that have to generate products that are constantly updated in order to survive in the marketplace. Therefore, the CEO and all execs are constantly under pressure to keep that update fire going.
(2 replies) #3 _dandy_ on 20 Sep 2009 - 12:53
MS's stock has been flat for nearly a decade--it's time their compensation package entices them to do a better job.
#3.1 Trajik 2600 on 21 Sep 2009 - 01:59
_dandy_ said,
MS's stock has been flat for nearly a decade--it's time their compensation package entices them to do a better job.


It constantly pays dividends to its shareholders. Learn before you open up.
#3.2 _dandy_ on 21 Sep 2009 - 22:57
Trajik 2600 said,
It constantly pays dividends to its shareholders. Learn before you open up.


Paying dividends is what you do to keep shareholders that are unhappy because your stock is flat.
(2 replies) #4 mikiem on 20 Sep 2009 - 15:22
Politics, marketing, & appearances plain & simple, trying to avoid the government going after MS yet once again.

US Corporations have always had to answer to the shareholders, plus stock is sold in a relatively open market -- if the market thinks a corp has/is mucking things up, shares get dumped, stock prices dive, & those in charge lose money in their stock options, bonuses, & holdings. Also remember that the focus is on future stock prices, & what other stock buyers are expected to do... if they buy the stock prices go up = stockholders make money. What the corp pays anyone is not usually a shareholder concern -- only making money through increasing share prices & dividends... if someone makes huge sums of money, and that's what it takes for investors to make loads of money, then so be it. That's how/why some on Wall St. got so incredibly rich.

Today because of all that's happened with the recession, the banks that have gone under, the HUGE government bailouts, & the even bigger gov deficits, CEOs & other execs are a target. You can debate whether this is deserved, or is just the gov giving the public scapegoats to save their own hides. Regardless, the gov is talking about taking on the power to set exec pay.

Microsoft is saying: "See guys -- you don't have to worry 'bout us", thinking maybe it'll help keep the gov out of their business.
#4.1 M_Lyons10 on 20 Sep 2009 - 22:08
Yeah, since we're a socialist country now and everything... As far as I'm concerned, government has no business dictating what a company can pay it's staff or how it operates (So long as it doesn't do anything illegal). When the government does that capitalism and the free market will die. I think that shareholders should have some say of course, so long as they reward profitability and good management. If they don't do that, this will fail as well.
#4.2 cakesy on 20 Sep 2009 - 22:59
M_Lyons10 said,
As far as I'm concerned, government has no business dictating what a company can pay it's staff or how it operates (So long as it doesn't do anything illegal).

This makes no sense. When the government makes a law, it becomes illegal to not to do it. If they mandate maximum wages, just as they have minimum wages, it will be illegal to overpay someone.

Yes, this is not a good idea. There is a backlash against huge payouts at the moment. I am not sure why the gov is pandering towards this. The rules will need to be so complex.
#5 M_Lyons10 on 20 Sep 2009 - 22:03
This sounds good. We'll have to see what happens I guess.
(1 reply) #6 toadeater on 20 Sep 2009 - 23:35
Steve Ballmer should get $0.
#6.1 GreyWolfSC on 21 Sep 2009 - 04:04
Send your proxy votes in, then.
#7 NfoTech on 21 Sep 2009 - 03:38
Equal pay for equal work. That is why there are execs and engineers.

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