According to a study done by the NPD group, 85% of people who own a Mac, also own a Windows based PC in their home. Approximately 12% of homes in the U.S. own a Mac computer, up from 9% in 2008, and out of that 12%, approximately 85% own a Windows PC.The study reveals that the explanation behind Mac users owning both a Mac computer and a Windows PC is that they tend to own more computers. According to the NPD group study, 66% of Mac households have three or more computers, compared to only 29% of Windows households.
The study also showed that 36% of Mac households have an income greater than $100,000, compared to only 21% of Windows households. Mac users also own more laptops than Windows users, with 72% of Mac users owning a laptop, compared to only 50% of the Windows PC households.
Mac users also tend to own more electronics, 63% own electronics such as iPods and 50% own some kind of electronic navigation system, compared to 36% of Windows PC owners have iPods and 30% own a GPS. The average Mac household owns approximately 48 consumer electronic devices, compared with an average of 24 in computer-owning households.
I run windows 2000 thru VMWARE FUSION
I'm sure most Windows-only users think that way. They wonder what work people can get done with those 1001 useful Windows apps they use. The truth is, once you get away from Windows you wonder how you ever got any work done when you used to use it.
PCs aren't busyboxes. Seriously, you don't need all those system tray apps. You don't need specialized viewers and file format utilities. You don't need all those disk drive and recovery programs. You don't need all those helper apps that provide shortcuts and various overlays and extra menus. You don't need flashy widgets and sparklies all over your desktop.
I'm sure everyone doesn't feel that way, but probably most Mac/Linux/BSD/whatever users do. They're probably thinking "I'm glad it doesn't look like a script kiddie sharted all over my desktop." I don't mean that because the GUI is hideous, but just the amalgam of various shareware/freeware/whatever apps is so particular that only the person who customized their desktop knows how to get the most out of it, and that makes it unintuitive to maintain such a desktop, but you need all those things there otherwise you don't have the functionality you want.
You might be thinking it's the same thing on Mac or Linux, but somehow there aren't as many notifications, taskbar icons, updates and fiddling with drivers, you don't need as many utilities to make annoyances go away and to tweak options, and it's not such a pain to do what you want. It's a little hard to get used to a different way of doing things, but even though I still try and stay current with most OS choices (as well as all software), which involves learning about Windows, using it in various ways, and dealing with people who "need" Windows, I don't miss Windows on my desktop or see any use for it there, and I don't see anything people are doing with it that I would find lacking in other options.
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PCs aren't busyboxes. Seriously, you don't need all those system tray apps. You don't need specialized viewers and file format utilities. You don't need all those disk drive and recovery programs. You don't need all those helper apps that provide shortcuts and various overlays and extra menus. You don't need flashy widgets and sparklies all over your desktop.
I'm sure everyone doesn't feel that way, but probably most Mac/Linux/BSD/whatever users do. They're probably thinking "I'm glad it doesn't look like a script kiddie sharted all over my desktop." I don't mean that because the GUI is hideous, but just the amalgam of various shareware/freeware/whatever apps is so particular that only the person who customized their desktop knows how to get the most out of it, and that makes it unintuitive to maintain such a desktop, but you need all those things there otherwise you don't have the functionality you want.
You might be thinking it's the same thing on Mac or Linux, but somehow there aren't as many notifications, taskbar icons, updates and fiddling with drivers, you don't need as many utilities to make annoyances go away and to tweak options, and it's not such a pain to do what you want. It's a little hard to get used to a different way of doing things, but even though I still try and stay current with most OS choices (as well as all software), which involves learning about Windows, using it in various ways, and dealing with people who "need" Windows, I don't miss Windows on my desktop or see any use for it there, and I don't see anything people are doing with it that I would find lacking in other options.
You make like PC professionals use and run all that crap. I will tell you that I don't for one. I keep my PC running with just what I need. I would take it that most Neowinians do the same, and beyond that most other PC pros who know better. I will most likely never buy a Mac. I've tried to use it and prefer windows. But yeah, windows comes with the novice user in mind, so it does run with many apps that are largely unneeded. Buy a proprietary PC and the vender will put more crap on it. But largely novice users like it when things are simple for them. And you can't tell me Macs don't require support apps to function the way users want/need it to.
What is so funny?
this (besides when I have to use a friends)
Only mac thing I use is the mac address from my nic and modem.
Dont think that was ever in question...
Windows is THE STANDARD whether people like it or not and if you play games Windows is pretty much the only realistic choice.
heck, even for general internet etc... a Windows based PC is vastly cheaper right? (you can get a decent basic PC for around 500... MAC's cost how much? (probably at least twice that at the minimum?)
so in other words only the rich people have MAC's. (some people say 100,000+ a year aint much but usually those people don't like in the average joe range like most of us do... because with 100k a year you can EASILY live a quality lifestyle.)
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so in other words only the rich people have MAC's. (some people say 100,000+ a year aint much but usually those people don't like in the average joe range like most of us do... because with 100k a year you can EASILY live a quality lifestyle.)
If 36% of Mac households make over $100,000 then that means 64% make less than $100,000.
exactly. I thought it was implied
Yeah, you probably do far less.
What makes using a Mac more fun or as smooth than a PC?
I like to call it creativity, that's what being a PC user is all about
I'm a big Mac supporter but you ar stretching. I love OS X but there are some thing you just cannot do and the crappy version of Office, nil support for recent versions of Quicken and the very limited upgrade options are just a few reason why I need PCs at home. I hate to say it, but Windows 7 is going to put a huge dent in the Apple growth migrations out there, the gap is narrowed no matter how many times Apple supporters (and I have been guilty of this) try and label it as Viste SP3.
Last edited by HalcyonX12 on 10 Oct 2009 - 23:46
http://www.savorydeviate.com/pocketgnome/ <-- incase any of you are curious.
i have a mac and several pc's and i only use my mac for decoration.
Just things like the options being stuck to program windows in Windows - whereas for Apple users it stay anchored is confusing.
(21% of 100k income pc owner of a 93% PC market share) would OBLITERATE (36% of $100k income mac owner of about 3% MAC market share) OUT OF THE WATER.
I consider Windows a better OS for power-users, but still pretty crappy for standard users. I've had to fix a load of Vista laptops in the last few months; apparently system maintenance is too confusing for the average joe, which is where Mac OS prevails, as the systems remain relatively nippy without having to clean stuff up. (Me being an XP/7 user here).
Going to assume this is per annum but with no unit of time specified it could be their life earnings.
Well, I think the difference in the incomes of users of Windows and the users of Mac's has more to do with the largescale adoption of Windows. It's in most homes, including those that are low income. I'm sure that brings down their average income a great deal. When you need a Windows PC anyway, and you aren't rich, why would you buy a Mac? It just wouldn't make sense. You'd have to buy two computers in the end...
I really don't think that figure has as much to do with Mac users as it's made out to appear...
There are windows tools you know also... I use file scavenger.
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