Megaupload data could be deleted starting Thursday

If you have any important files that were hosted via the Megaupload file sharing service, you could have those files deleted in just a few days. The Associated Press (via NPR.com) reports that the companies that hosted the servers for Megaupload could start getting rid of those files beginning on Thursday.

The story reports that the U.S. Attorney's Office sent a letter on Friday to Carpathia Hosting and Cogent Communications Group, which owns the servers that hosted the Megaupload service. The letter said those companies could start deleting data that used the service on Thursday. Megaupload was shut down earlier this month by US officials and several of its employees, including its founder Kim Dotcom, were arrested on online piracy charges.

The U.S. Attorney's Office's letter also said that the government has made copies of some of the data found on Megaupload's servers. However, none of the servers were physically taken from their hosting locations.

Megaupload's attorney Ira Rothken says that he is trying to keep that data from being deleted from the servers. Not only could 50 million Megaupload users be affected, but Rothken says that those files could be helpful in Megaupload's defense against the online piracy charges. He added, "We're cautiously optimistic at this point that because the United States, as well as Megaupload, should have a common desire to protect consumers, that this type of agreement will get done."

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So they are letting the evidence being deleted? Any lawyer could then challenge the source of the files allegedly copied from the MU servers.

Marcos_Edson said,
So they are letting the evidence being deleted? Any lawyer could then challenge the source of the files allegedly copied from the MU servers.

I think there is something left out of what we don't know. Because said servers are owned by a 3rd Party the 3rd Party needs to be paid for there servers. If MU has no money anymore because it got place in hold or taken away, they then have no money to pay the 3rd party for the servers.

I think thats why they are going to be allowed to wipe them. The FEDs grab what they needed. I think they might get a delay, but i think it will be up to someone else or personal funds of someone to pay the bill. I don't think the US government will pay for it.

Who the heck is using Megaupload as a permanent storage place for their data anyway? If you don't have their files saved locally in addition to a local backup scheme then you fail.

Shadrack said,
Who the heck is using Megaupload as a permanent storage place for their data anyway? If you don't have their files saved locally in addition to a local backup scheme then you fail.

True, but what if you had over 3TB uploaded on it? Would you want to spend all that time reuploading it? I actually want MU to come back, since I had about 2TB of data on it. Personal stuff like music, documents, videos,etc.

WaveZero said,

True, but what if you had over 3TB uploaded on it? Would you want to spend all that time reuploading it? I actually want MU to come back, since I had about 2TB of data on it. Personal stuff like music, documents, videos,etc.

If the data was important enough you would have it stored on a local hard drive and also backed up in some way. If your data is all on MU and you don't have a local copy of any of the data, then either the data was not important to you or you fit into that category of people that fail.

Shadrack said,

If the data was important enough you would have it stored on a local hard drive and also backed up in some way. If your data is all on MU and you don't have a local copy of any of the data, then either the data was not important to you or you fit into that category of people that fail.


Yep, I was just saying, I'm not looking forward to reuploading. I like to keep multiple copies everywhere. It's better that way =) Also if my house burnt down I can redownload them off MU.

The U.S. Attorney's Office's letter also said that the government has made copies of some of the data found on Megaupload's servers.

So basically, they copied the porn and their favorite movies, shows, and music?

THIS is the #1 reason I do not like "the cloud" for file storage. If the company you contract through, goes out of business, raided by the FBI, aliens etc, your photos of grandma could be wiped out. Using "the cloud" as a secondary backup site is one thing, but, using it as your way to ensure your data is there forever, is silly.

'The Cloud' as a storage site without backup is as unwise as any non-cloud solution without a backup. What's really silly is singling out 'the cloud' for an aspect it shares with every other storage solution.

To convert funds back, paper money would be collected from internet service provider. The big AT&T, Comcast and others. Making them Banks who can also loan on that money to make extra income.

Also part of this issue Torrents once just like gold currency is converted to dollars. Dollars ar being converted to bandwith. Each user must supply there onw bandwidth. The torrent file itself is then used as a receipt. This is also legal form ofr trade.

I am almost sure you would have no Television if this happen with broadcast TV or Satellite radio; which you can by recording devices for legally across the globe.

The question that I'm stuck with is how they would get around this problem now. They could allow access to those files for 72 hours, but in doing so they would also be opening the illegal files up again for that time period. Also, the servers would probably get hounded by all the users desperately trying to save all their data - although I think that's less of an issue, judging from how well Megaupload performed in the past.
The only way I can think to get around it would be for someone to go through each and every file before reopening it, but that would take a lifetime and more to do.

Intrinsica said,
The question that I'm stuck with is how they would get around this problem now. They could allow access to those files for 72 hours, but in doing so they would also be opening the illegal files up again for that time period. Also, the servers would probably get hounded by all the users desperately trying to save all their data - although I think that's less of an issue, judging from how well Megaupload performed in the past.
The only way I can think to get around it would be for someone to go through each and every file before reopening it, but that would take a lifetime and more to do.

All they would have to do is open it for 72 hours and only let people download files they uploaded.

/facepalm

That would make sense, wouldn't it...obviously I didn't think that all the way through, I forgot that you need an account to upload files...

Intrinsica said,
/facepalm

That would make sense, wouldn't it...obviously I didn't think that all the way through, I forgot that you need an account to upload files...

I can't tell if you are being serious or sarcastic? Could a person really upload files without an account. just asking? if that's the case and if people did upload stuff without an account, I feel nothing for them.

I think you misunderstood my reply. The facepalm was to do with my own stupidity for not thinking about the need for an account. I think it was a necessity if you wanted to upload files.

Just so we are clear according to wiki Piracy is "theft from owner at sea" hmm ok. According to the industry Piracy is "theft from owner while in transit. " Ashworth College. Once sold it items belong to original receipt holder. Which say to me persons reporting do not know what they are talking about? or we have a vast misuse of the word Piracy. LOL "The letter said the government copied some data from the servers but did not physically take them. It said that now that it has executed its search warrants, it has no right to access the data." If you downloaded them that means you stole it according to AP???

Erik Ryans said,
Just so we are clear according to wiki Piracy is "theft from owner at sea" hmm ok.

I think you might be looking up the wrong wiki article there.

Intrinsica said,

I think you might be looking up the wrong wiki article there.

"According to Websters dictionary, A wedding is defined as the process of removing weeds from one's garden." ~ Homer Simpson

Most packaged items that come of the internet “Zip, Rar” also come with contact information for verification purposes. Or some type of receipt for that purpose. It's like saying neowin is software which it is and that you can't download it and distributes it which you can. Which lots of books are created use such methods. You just can't claim it as your own work.

"Persons engaged in the illegal sale and distribution of counterfeit goods and copyrighted."

"During the operation, federal law enforcement agents made undercover purchases of a host of products, including professional sports jerseys, golf equipment, DVD sets, footwear, handbags and sunglasses, representing a variety of trademarks from online retailers who were suspected of selling counterfeit products. In most cases, the goods were shipped directly into the United States from suppliers in other countries."
http://www.fbi.gov/news/news_blog?b_start:int=10&-C=
Which says this is really about Conterfeit products, and the sale of thoes items. You are not aloud to make money off stolen goods. If you can prove it's not stolen should be no complaints.

as you are not depriving persons of fair wage. "US Bill of rights"

Erik Ryans said,
"Persons engaged in the illegal sale and distribution of counterfeit goods and copyrighted."

"During the operation, federal law enforcement agents made undercover purchases of a host of products, including professional sports jerseys, golf equipment, DVD sets, footwear, handbags and sunglasses, representing a variety of trademarks from online retailers who were suspected of selling counterfeit products. In most cases, the goods were shipped directly into the United States from suppliers in other countries."
http://www.fbi.gov/news/news_blog?b_start:int=10&-C=
Which says this is really about Conterfeit products, and the sale of thoes items. You are not aloud to make money off stolen goods. If you can prove it's not stolen should be no complaints.

Even tho most of it is pirated stuff ... what about the people hosting legitimate stuff and paying for accounts? Hmm, that's a bit unfair.

Spirit Dave said,
Even tho most of it is pirated stuff ... what about the people hosting legitimate stuff and paying for accounts? Hmm, that's a bit unfair.

Do you think they care about legitimate users ? I think DRM softwares proved a long time ago they don't.

LaP said,

Do you think they care about legitimate users ? I think DRM softwares proved a long time ago they don't.

What's wrong with DRM software?