Microsoft: 88 Million Copies of Vista Shipped

Despite frequent reports of Windows Vista being a failure, Microsoft Corporation has now shipped 88 million copies of its latest operating system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of time at its launch. CFO Chris Liddell credited strong sales in emerging markets, due in part to anti-piracy and legalization programs there. Microsoft had previously said that it had shipped 20 million copies of Vista in its first month, 40 million copies of Vista in the first 100 days, and 60 million in late July.

Three-quarters of the copies sold of Vista were Home Premium editions. The 88 million figure mostly includes Vista-installed PCs bought by consumers and small businesses, as well as packaged copies of Vista sold in stores or online. It does exclude the tens of millions of Windows corporate volume licenses. There, many enterprises continue to hold off on deploying Vista, acknowledged CFO Chris Liddell, though he expects them to start deploying it when Vista Service Pack 1 arrives in the first quarter of next year. Nevertheless, revenue from companies renewing their volume licenses for Windows, which gives them the right to upgrade to Vista, was up 27%.

News source: PC World

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September 2007 - Vista: 4.5%

So 100% = (100/4.5*88m) = 1,956m computers worldwide (or 300 computers per 1000 persons).
But analyst firm Forrester says that we have about 1 billion. Other sources say that we have only 107 computers per 1000 persons worldwide. So someone is exaggerating. I am sure Microsoft counts free Vista upgrades which comes with Windows XP and looks like 50-70% of people are not using this free upgrade yet.

Can someone please notate the names of all these people bashing Vista right now so we can compare them to the names of the people who praise it when the next OS comes out? I have a feeling that many of the names will be the same on both lists.

Seriously, it's the same with each new Windows OS (ME being the exception of course, that one was just crap). Poor driver support, inadequate hardware, limited experienced user base, etc...

Agreed, Glen. Like I said before, I'm very happy with Vista. People have to understand that every operating system (with the exception of ME) is going to go through a "teething period" - some just take a little longer.

Bob

Can someone please notate the names of all these people bashing Windows Me right now so we can compare them to the names of the people praising it when the next OS comes out?

For the record I loved XP when it came out. In fact I've liked most every version of Windows that has came off the line, Vista is probably only the second I was extremely disappointed with, and I can assure you I will never be praising it.

Skyfrog said,
Can someone please notate the names of all these people bashing Windows Me right now so we can compare them to the names of the people praising it when the next OS comes out?

For the record I loved XP when it came out. In fact I've liked most every version of Windows that has came off the line, Vista is probably only the second I was extremely disappointed with, and I can assure you I will never be praising it.

Then, for the record, you would be the exception to most complaining about Vista currently, but I appreciate your opinion. However, my point was that the majority of the comments against Vista are the same comments I heard when XP was first released. Remember these?

"It's a fisher price OS."
"It's just a pretty face on the NT kernel."
"My hardware isn't natively supported."
"It's footprint is much larger than the 2000 install."
etc... etc... etc...

Don't get me wrong, I still really like XP as an OS and I dual boot my system between XP and Vista. I just don't agree that it was "half baked" at release time or that any issues found are uncommon to any Windows OS release, and I'm not even really a fan of the Windows OS. If I had my way, I'd still be using MS-DOS and running programs from the command line.

Glen said,
Don't get me wrong, I still really like XP as an OS and I dual boot my system between XP and Vista. I just don't agree that it was "half baked" at release time or that any issues found are uncommon to any Windows OS release, and I'm not even really a fan of the Windows OS. If I had my way, I'd still be using MS-DOS and running programs from the command line. :)

I disagreed, vista IS a half baked OS, specially the features left out from this release, specially the new filesystem.

May be Vista will rules but not this puny version but vista OSR2, Vista 2008 (or 2009)....

Guess I'm the one person who doesn't want their money back. :P

There is no way I'm putting XP back on my machines.

xiphi said,
Guess I'm the one person who doesn't want their money back. :P

There is no way I'm putting XP back on my machines.

Here's another who doesn't want his money back - very satisfied Vista user.

Bob

These kind of figures aren't even worth looking at. It's just like the record business. A new record can be proclaimed #1 just because they "shipped" 8 billion copies out to the stores. Heck, it's rated number one then even before it actually even sold a copy!

Sure VistaMe2 will catch on. It has to as it's the newest OS out and all new computers sold since will have it, for the most part. But, for the lousy third party driver support it (didn't) had when finally released after so many delays, I think of it as a total POS!!

To me, it is nothing more than overblown eyecandy.

I have news from an out source saying that 85 million is being snapped up by bill gates him self and his side kick partners so it doesnt make him look like a failure. the other 3 million is from home users that think dont really know what they are doing and gonig with the flow.

On a serious note, I found the product full of bugs when the product was released and even now still finding bugs. I mean IE crashed on me on a daily basis. I dont know what SP1 will bring but i am happy with XP at the moment.

For me Vista is very fast and very stable. All of my apps and games work just fine. I run 64bit on my main desktop and 32bit Vista on my HTPC which is setup to play any video file under the sun. I have found very few bugs and would say that for me it has less than XP. Not that XP was buggy. 3rd party driver support was poor at launch but has improved greatly. But still, 3rd parties releasing poor drivers make people think it's an OS problem when it's really not. I think most people forget what XP was like when it launched.
The only people who bash vista are the ones who have no clue what's going on, or are buying into the FUD or are intentionally spreading FUD.

It doesn't take as much horsepower to run as you may think. It's not a huge resource hog. People confuse superfetch with it being a resource hog. All it's doing is making use of idle ram, this is a good thing.

There is no DRM preventing you from doing anything you want to do. You can continue all of your illegal activites and nothing is reported back to microsoft on any of it. All it has is support for DRM placed on HD-DVD or Blue Ray by the MPAA. If you never play one of these protected discs on your computer you'll never even know the DRM support is there.
The same DRM support is found on macs which allows playback of protected itunes content.
It is also in your set top HD-DVD or Blue Ray players. It is not a windows only thing at all.

archer75 said,
It doesn't take as much horsepower to run as you may think. It's not a huge resource hog. People confuse superfetch with it being a resource hog. All it's doing is making use of idle ram, this is a good thing.

I think anyone who looks up the memory meters in Task Manager and then proclaims that it's a resource hog, is just spreading FUD.

Unused memory = wasted memory.

Which proves that the sales aren't as great as they are trying to make them out to be. If they count volume licensing by companies that sure makes their sales look dandy doesn't it.

Vista is simply beautiful and works really great for me. All depends on your hardware setup. If you've got the right parts, there shouldn't be any problem. Sorry to hear that some websites claim they are compats, but then again you should try some hardware reviews to pick out the best and or affordable setups. It's all about drivers, either the companies do it right or they don't. Don't pick on Vista.

I've been using Vista on both of our business computers since March. Works just fine. However I am a knowledgeable user. I followed the beta program very closely - although I did not participate. AND I had put off buying new hardware for almost 18 months, so I was in the market for some serious new iron.

That said, Vista is not meant for old hardware and anyone who tries to shoehorn it onto their old clunker is a fool.

Some of the cheesy hardware that big box retailers are trying to palm off as Vista Ready are an insult to their customers.

My only complaint is that the video cards I got in March was not up to the level of the rest of the of the system. As new video cards come down in price, Vista is going to roar.

Unbelievable... the amount of ignorant or plain ridiculous comments here...

Yeah... MS shipped 88 million copies of Vista and probably about 80% of those switched right back to XP, yeah! Because "everyone knows" "Vista sucks"!!

Seriously... come on. Grow up.

Same thing I was thinking........SHIPPED....not sold!
It works fine on my laptop, which is less than 18 months old, but I'm sure my home box (P4 2.8ghz HT, 512 ram) would
struggle with it. After SP1 is released, and reviewed, I'm sure there will be a lot of people taking another look at it.

Skyfrog said,
Shipped means shipped to stores or OEMs, it does not mean 88 million people have bought Vista.

Skyfrog said,
Shipped means shipped to stores or OEMs, it does not mean 88 million people have bought Vista.

Oh yeah... right...

So essentially - the real truth is that MS stuffed all stores everywhere with 80 million copies and really sold only 8 million, or something to that effect?

That really explains the record quarter (since 1999) that Microsoft just had. Because they just shipped their software and did not sell any!

As I said - get over it - please.

Ah yes, saying "get over it" certainly makes you right. Show me proof that their record quarter was because of Vista, otherwise you're just an overly defensive Microsoft fan. When I see some third party proof of actual sales fine, but if you really are going to take Microsoft's word for it, well...lmao.

Skyfrog said,
Ah yes, saying "get over it" certainly makes you right. Show me proof that their record quarter was because of Vista, otherwise you're just an overly defensive Microsoft fan. When I see some third party proof of actual sales fine, but if you really are going to take Microsoft's word for it, well...lmao.

Well, OK... I have perhaps falsely assumed that you'd actually go look at the latest financial statement:

http://www.microsoft.com/msft/earnings/FY0..._rel_q1_08.mspx

So - unless Microsoft has shipped some other client products that are accounting for half of their revenue (which is so big but somehow we did not hear about it), or unless they are only selling Office 2007 and no Vista - I'd say that this is a pretty darn good proof that Microsoft's Client division accounted for almost 1 B $ increase of sales compared to last year's 1st quarter.

Will you get over it now?

I don't care how many they shipped. Piracy of Vista is probably half as much piracy of XP was back in the day. Which means nobody cares about vista xD

The only people that hate Vista are tech nuts like those of us that visit sites like this. The rest of the market thinks it's just fine.

I'm sure XP tagged along with hardware for quite a while at the beginning of it's life. OS X is always tagging along with hardware. Maybe if Linux was good enough to be considered having preinstalled on hardware, it'd be doing better.

As such, how the market works isn't different enough now than it was when XP came out, so the fact that these numbers are so much higher indicate that MS did something right with Vista, whether you all want to believe it or not.

-Spenser

The only people that hate Vista are tech nuts like those of us that visit sites like this. The rest of the market thinks it's just fine.

That's a pretty broad claim you made there, especially since you just made it up.

Skyfrog said,

That's a pretty broad claim you made there, especially since you just made it up.

Yes, I feel like making up some stats. Let's see...... 89% of all tech nuts rejected Vista. There, now we have a statistic to back up the claim.

FWIW, I'm a tech nut and I use Vista both at home and work. And I prefer it over XP. Guess that puts me in the 11% :-)

Microsoft can only tell you how much product THEY sell. Unlike Walmart, they do not have eyeballs on every cash register.

When a wholesaler or OEM exchanges cash for a product it becomes income to Microsoft. How quickly the wholesaler or OEM turns that product over depnds on their skill and market savvy.

No company is going to buy another company's product to make them look good, if they weren't selling vista they wouldn't be buying it, and if you think the vista boxes on store shelves today date from january you are delluded.
Of course we have to see this retarded argument every vista news post, and many times I've seen it explained as patently false, so I'm not getting my hopes up that this retarded argument disappears because of my reply, but whatever.

It's not that bad folks... seriously... It just sucks a lot of dick when it comes pre-loaded on a machine that also has Norton's grab-bag-of-**** on it.

Why is norton still around? I've lost the count of how many laptops of family and friends I have removed that garbage from. Why do pc vendors feel the need of ruining the performance by installing that piece of crap?

The point is, vista is not selling badly, remember early this year when everyone was saying that nobody wanted vista and it was selling worse than XP? Well, they are just proving those idiots wrong. Doesn't matter, they'll come back with more loony arguments and keep getting shot down, it's the natural cycle in the tech. world.

Add one sale from me. I bought a new PC for our 8 year old's birthday. The stores only had Vista PCs, no XP units, so I had to buy a Vista one - Home Basic.

ya but once you open it you can't return it , so ya they sold that many but I wonder how many people have but still went back to XP.... even though i'm hearing how bad vista is, i'd really to install my free vista busness copy!, @$*#*#'ing Nforce 3

warwagon said,
ya but once you open it you can't return it , so ya they sold that many but I wonder how many people have but still went back to XP.... even though i'm hearing how bad vista is, i'd really to install my free vista busness copy!, @$*#*#'ing Nforce 3

nvidia cutting support for that ****es me off to no end
i almost bought vista thinking it would work cause they had it on their site saying it would

warwagon said,
ya but once you open it you can't return it , so ya they sold that many but I wonder how many people have but still went back to XP.... even though i'm hearing how bad vista is, i'd really to install my free vista busness copy!, @$*#*#'ing Nforce 3

Did I miss the memo? I have an Asus board with Nforce 3 chipset and it works fine with Vista.