Microsoft and Apple store showdown in California

Microsoft opened its fourth retail store yesterday, in California, the same day Apple launched its iPhone 4 device. The new store is four shops away from Apple's own store in Fashion Valley Mall, San Diego.

Queues were extremely long for both stores report witnesses. Microsoft store employees handed out free t-shirts, skateboards, gig tickets and even some free laptops to hundreds of visitors. Joe Wilcox, writer at BetaNews.com, spoke to several teen girls who admitted they came just for the freebees. In comparison Apple Store visitors were waiting in line to shell out hundreds of dollars on a brand new iPhone 4. The mood at the Microsoft store was a lot more upbeat with visitors chanting "Microsoft" repeatedly and cheering when the store opened.


Image Credit: Joe Wilcox (Flickr)

Despite the iPhone 4 launch Microsoft seems to have successfully taken Apple's retail model and mirrored it so far. Microsoft has introduced the Kinect gaming system to its four stores so customers can be the first to play the new controller-less system, due to launch in November for Xbox 360.

Microsoft's San Diego store is the fourth, joining the first two locations in Scottsdale, Arizona and Mission Viejo, California and recently opened Park Meadows Mall in Lone Tree, Colorado. Microsoft is also planning to open a fifth store in the Seattle area. The Microsoft Store's offer all of the Microsoft products found through online retailers and inside major retail chains, including keyboards and mice, Windows 7, Xbox360 and many more products. Apple currently has 222 stores in the United States alone, and 287 total stores worldwide, including 27 in the UK and 14 in Canada.

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This Apple/Microsoft trolling has gone far enough. As with the other news articles, anyone that wishes to continue baiting and trolling other members will find they are restricted from posting news comments.

Scutley said,
To me a free laptop is better then an overrated IPhone 4

Yea! So you can flip it and buy an iPhone!!!

I kid I kid.

Scutley said,
To me a free laptop is better then an overrated IPhone 4

they didnt give out laptops unless everyone else that reported the giveaways lied? pretty sure microsoft doesnt make laptops which means they would have given out laptops from other companies which also would have led to lawsuits from the companies that they didnt hand them out from because microsoft selectively advertising other brands which goes against monopoly laws.

serious question though, if the iphone is overrated, what phone isnt? they all do the exact same thing and cost the same now. iphone with a plan is 199. evo with a plan is 199. both multi task. both take pictures, though evo's is better. both have a touch display, though iphones is better. both have an app store. both make phone calls and send texts and emails.

SputnikGamer said,
serious question though, if the iphone is overrated, what phone isnt? they all do the exact same thing and cost the same now. iphone with a plan is 199. evo with a plan is 199. both multi task. both take pictures, though evo's is better. both have a touch display, though iphones is better. both have an app store. both make phone calls and send texts and emails.

Except Evo has a much larger screen, more powerful operating system, and you aren't treated like a baby when using the phone. Anything can go in the app store. Being Steve Job's bitc* is also part of it, I don't want to be told how to hold the phone.

iPhone is always called the "best" phone, and is always compared against, but why? It's inferior to many current Android phones.

SputnikGamer said,

they didnt give out laptops unless everyone else that reported the giveaways lied? pretty sure microsoft doesnt make laptops which means they would have given out laptops from other companies which also would have led to lawsuits from the companies that they didnt hand them out from because microsoft selectively advertising other brands which goes against monopoly laws.

serious question though, if the iphone is overrated, what phone isnt? they all do the exact same thing and cost the same now. iphone with a plan is 199. evo with a plan is 199. both multi task. both take pictures, though evo's is better. both have a touch display, though iphones is better. both have an app store. both make phone calls and send texts and emails.


Maybe like a "$500 gift card for any laptop"

andrewbares said,

Except Evo has a much larger screen, more powerful operating system, and you aren't treated like a baby when using the phone. Anything can go in the app store. Being Steve Job's bitc* is also part of it, I don't want to be told how to hold the phone.

iPhone is always called the "best" phone, and is always compared against, but why? It's inferior to many current Android phones.

not treated like a baby? you mean like how google has programmed into android the ability to erase apps from your phone at will. so apple doesnt let bad apps (meaning virus/phishing) into their store and thats how they keep their devices safe. google lets them into the store but then takes over your device without asking after they have already possibly done damage. please till me which is worse?

SputnikGamer said,

not treated like a baby? you mean like how google has programmed into android the ability to erase apps from your phone at will. so apple doesnt let bad apps (meaning virus/phishing) into their store and thats how they keep their devices safe. google lets them into the store but then takes over your device without asking after they have already possibly done damage. please till me which is worse?

Correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't Apple have the ability to remote wipe apps from your phone as well?

Don't forget, Apple were the ones that started the whole remote app wipe thing anyway.

The irony is that the app that was wiped was "iPhone theme for Android", I think Apple had something to do with the removal.

Microsoft and Apple. I love them both.

Typing this from my iPod touch that is plugged into my Windows PC.

Scutley said,

How?

To me Apple is learning from Microsoft.

Everything M$ has they stole from Apple in the beginning. Right after Apple stole it from Xerox. It's funny how fanboy trolls don't know crap about history, just watch the Pirates of Silicon Valley so you can see how stupid and uneducated your comments are.

Who started this Apple vs Microsoft fire? I bet the workes for both companies get along better then most people here.

Doli said,
Who started this Apple vs Microsoft fire? I bet the workes for both companies get along better then most people here.

I'm not sure about that...I worked in two of the top IT companies (neither MS or Apple) in the world and there was a huge hate speech about the competitors coming from management in both companies. Eventough I never cared about this type of speech, many of the employees (and specially the younger ones) fell for it and spreaded it as well.

Doli said,
Who started this Apple vs Microsoft fire? I bet the workes for both companies get along better then most people here.

Seriously? You don't know? When Apple was basically the only one with a GUI, and M$ had DOS Gates went to Jobs and baited him into giving him the Apple II prototype with the GUI to write software for it. When Job's wasn't looking Gates and M$ stole it, and made a deal with IBM (Apple's largest competitor at the time). IBM was stupid, and allowed M$ to keep all licensing rights and the rest is history. There has always been a hatred between both companies, until recently. Thus why we have all the fanboy's on either side.

i wish there was a MS store in a city near to me in ontario.
i'd go just to see their mouse selection and maybe pick up another $20 MS ps/2 keyboard.
would probably have more pc games on the shelves than the nearest game store too, despite MS's focus on xbox.
i feel kinda sorry for the poor ppl who lined up to buy an iphone4. those people are going to be annoyed for the life of their phone by it's launch day issues.

This is news...why?

Did people actually get into altercations? Were there riots?

I think the bigger story here was the Microsoft Store opening, and the I-Phone launch was an afterthought. The store opening was a unique event because it's only the fourth of its kind in the world, while you could get the Apple Phone at basically any of the 200+ MAC stores or at&t stores around the country.

When I first read this a couple of weeks ago, and the headline read "Microsoft opens store on the same day of i-phone launch", I immediately thought that the headline should've read "Apple launches new Phone the same day as Microsoft Store opening"

Bern@rd said,

When I first read this a couple of weeks ago, and the headline read "Microsoft opens store on the same day of i-phone launch", I immediately thought that the headline should've read "Apple launches new Phone the same day as Microsoft Store opening"

LOL

Pauleh said,
iPhone*
Mac*

I really don't understand why some people write it as MAC, seems to happen a lot among Apple haters.

Well at least we now know what pushes your buttons.

SK[ said,]In America it seems yes. Apparently they clap at the end of some films in cinemas too.
Uh? never seen people clap at the end of a movie...that would be pretty weird

Rudy said,
Uh? never seen people clap at the end of a movie...that would be pretty weird

I remember when I was younger and I went to the theaters, people actually clapped at the end of the movies. They don't seem to be doing that now. Maybe in America they still do. :?

NoctheniK said,

I remember when I was younger and I went to the theaters, people actually clapped at the end of the movies. They don't seem to be doing that now. Maybe in America they still do. :?

Over here in Morocco they do it when the movie is quite good.

I remember on English radio they once did a few jokes over being at some film premiers in America and everyone clapped at the end of the film. I think everyone outside of America finds it a bit strange, it's like clapping when the pilot lands a plane.

dave164 said,
I remember on English radio they once did a few jokes over being at some film premiers in America and everyone clapped at the end of the film. I think everyone outside of America finds it a bit strange, it's like clapping when the pilot lands a plane.

a film premier is completely different then a every day movie playing... people dont clap after a movie... but after a premier its telling the creators good job etc... because usually a 1st premier has the movie cast at it and they are congradulating them on their job...... a bit different in that situation

dave164 said,
I remember on English radio they once did a few jokes over being at some film premiers in America and everyone clapped at the end of the film. I think everyone outside of America finds it a bit strange, it's like clapping when the pilot lands a plane.

What's wrong with that? If the movie is really good on a film premiere clapping to show satisfaction is a normal thing for people to do.
Same goes for a good soft landing.

Lechio said,

What's wrong with that? If the movie is really good on a film premiere clapping to show satisfaction is a normal thing for people to do.
Same goes for a good soft landing.

When the pilot can't hear you

Good, now people can buy Windows software for their new Apple hardware. Honestly people, the two companies not even in the same category any more.

satukoro said,
Good, now people can buy Windows software for their new Apple hardware. Honestly people, the two companies not even in the same category any more.

It really has come down to that, hasn't it? Microsoft is about OS's and spilling out all kinds programs. Apple's about throwing out new devices at you.

satukoro said,
Good, now people can buy Windows software for their new Apple hardware. Honestly people, the two companies not even in the same category any more.

That's because apple failed and still fails at software.

Glendi said,

That's because apple failed and still fails at software.

yea because you cant even multi task on an ipho... o wait. why does iphone fail at software again? dont say flash because thats adobes software, not apples. also dont say anything about the store because that has nothing to do with software. that is adminstration in apple blocking it, not the software itself. apples computers can all run windows now so cant really say anything about games or other software not working...what are we missing or are you just trolling?

SputnikGamer said,

yea because you cant even multi task on an ipho... o wait. why does iphone fail at software again? dont say flash because thats adobes software, not apples. also dont say anything about the store because that has nothing to do with software. that is adminstration in apple blocking it, not the software itself. apples computers can all run windows now so cant really say anything about games or other software not working...what are we missing or are you just trolling?

No decent notification manager in iOS still.

Using the same iOS for a totally different class of product, the iPad.

Causing possible device corruption when you unplug a USB drive before "properly ejecting it"

Not allowing true maximization of a windows in Leopard. It does its little "smart fit", when you simply wanna fill the entire screen.

We could go on and on. All of it is mostly opinions though. Apple doesn't fail at software, but they aren't gods either.

SputnikGamer said,

yea because you cant even multi task on an ipho... o wait. why does iphone fail at software again? dont say flash because thats adobes software, not apples. also dont say anything about the store because that has nothing to do with software. that is adminstration in apple blocking it, not the software itself. apples computers can all run windows now so cant really say anything about games or other software not working...what are we missing or are you just trolling?

It is Apple when Adobe would put their software on Apple devices but Apple won't allow it.

Silverskull said,
It is Apple when Adobe would put their software on Apple devices but Apple won't allow it.

last time i checked adobe still hasnt made any software to run flash on the iphone so apple hasnt blocked anything. the ball is in adobes court to make the software and prove it works without battery or performance issues. the android version that just came out hasnt even go rid of those problems so that only hurt adobes case. until adobe does more than just make empty promises there is no reason to feel sorry for the company.

SputnikGamer said,

yea because you cant even multi task on an ipho... o wait. why does iphone fail at software again? dont say flash because thats adobes software, not apples. also dont say anything about the store because that has nothing to do with software. that is adminstration in apple blocking it, not the software itself. apples computers can all run windows now so cant really say anything about games or other software not working...what are we missing or are you just trolling?

iOS4 is a generic piece of crap to accompany that shiny piece of crap called an iPhone. Apple is totally ignoring Mac OS and focusing on mobile devices. Wonder why?

SputnikGamer said,

yea because you cant even multi task on an ipho... o wait. why does iphone fail at software again? dont say flash because thats adobes software, not apples. also dont say anything about the store because that has nothing to do with software. that is adminstration in apple blocking it, not the software itself. apples computers can all run windows now so cant really say anything about games or other software not working...what are we missing or are you just trolling?

Yes, because even Windows fricking Mobile had a better notification system than IN YOUR BLEEPING FACE PUSH NOTIFCATION YOU MUST DISMISS ME BEFORE BEING ABLE TO ANYTHING GRAWWWRRR/

Chicane-UK said,
You would think people would get sick of it after a while. But no. It drives me crazy. Just too many fanboys out there..

+1. I'm a fanboy of non-fanboys. 0_o

So basically Microsoft has to bribe people into coming to their new store by giving away free stuff, while Apple attracts hordes of people that actually want to buy a product off them.

.Neo said,
So basically Microsoft has to bribe people into coming to their new store by giving away free stuff, while Apple attracts hordes of people that actually want to buy a product off them.

Man, someone tries to "bride" me, it's on like donkey kong!
edit: lol you fixed it

.Neo said,
So basically Microsoft has to bribe people into coming to their new store by giving away free stuff, while Apple attracts hordes of people that actually want to buy a product off them.

and according to the all the anti apple trolls, the products are substandard products that are overpriced and completely worthless.

.Neo said,
So basically Microsoft has to bribe people into coming to their new store by giving away free stuff, while Apple attracts hordes of people that actually want to buy a product off them.

No, Apple gets people by looks and how shiny their stuff is. If it was based off of functionality, then no way people would be buying iPads and the new iPhones like they are...with their issues.

Besides, Jobs is to much of a tight assed money hungry jackhole that sells expensive products. No way in hell they will be giving things away for free since they wont drop their prices. Apple is all about the $.

.Neo said,
So basically Microsoft has to bribe people into coming to their new store by giving away free stuff, while Apple attracts hordes of people that actually want to buy a product off them.

No, they're giving away promos because the store was just opened. It's in the article.

techbeck said,
No, Apple gets people by looks and how shiny their stuff is. If it was based off of functionality, then no way people would be buying iPads and the new iPhones like they are...with their issues.

That doesn't change the fact the Apple Store attracts hordes of people that actually want to buy stuff there, while Microsoft attracts people that just come for the freebies. And of course, Microsoft products never experienced any trouble right after their initial launch...

techbeck said,
Besides, Jobs is to much of a tight assed money hungry jackhole that sells expensive products. No way in hell they will be giving things away for free since they wont drop their prices. Apple is all about the $.

Yeah and Microsoft is a charity organization that doesn't care about making money... I keep forgetting!

.Neo said,

Yeah and Microsoft is a charity organization that doesn't care about making money... I keep forgetting!

MS has been trying to change that image and doesnt have nearly the image it used to. Apple is the MS of old and MS/Gates has given a TON of money to charity.

techbeck said,
MS has been trying to change that image and doesnt have nearly the image it used to. Apple is the MS of old and MS/Gates has given a TON of money to charity.

Apple has been/is actively involved into charity, so what's your point?

GreyWolf said,
No, they're giving away promos because the store was just opened. It's in the article.

The article also states people there only came for the freebies.

.Neo said,

Apple has been/is actively involved into charity, so what's your point?

Not my point, was responding to your point about MS not being a charity organization.

.Neo said,

The article also states people there only came for the freebies.

Thats how a lot of companies do things. It gets people in the door and then they are more likely to by something else. And it was their grand opening so its common for companies to do this.

Does Apple do this when they open one of their stores? Not trying to argue, just curious of they do.

Apple has been/is actively involved into charity, so what's your point?

How about Steve Jobs who happens to be a billionaire and has never given more than $100 (if even that) to charity huh? Either way thats an off-topic discussion.

That doesn't change the fact the Apple Store attracts hordes of people that actually want to buy stuff there, while Microsoft attracts people that just come for the freebies.

Oh you mean the operating system that is used on 90%+ of the worlds computers? Or the office suite that is the most used as well? Or how about Visual studio, one of the best IDEs around? Or maybe Windows 7 that sold 150 million licenses recently? Xbox 360, second most popular 7th generation console?

Yup people only go to Microsoft for freebies. And a company that is just starting to open retail stores has never ever given out freebies in the past, completely unheard of tradition right?

.Neo said,
So basically Microsoft has to bribe people into coming to their new store by giving away free stuff, while Apple attracts hordes of people that actually want to buy a product off them.

Pretty much, no-one buys their stuff anymore.

Lechio said,

Pretty much, no-one buys their stuff anymore.

Lets conveniently forget that Windows 7 has been the fastest selling OS in history, and just passed the 150 million mark. And also lets forget about the tons of other products that Microsoft make (MS hardware, Xbox, Kinect, Office, Visual Studio, Windows Server, SQL server, Zune etc etc cetc), nobody buys those either.

/- Razorfold said,

Lets conveniently forget that Windows 7 has been the fastest selling OS in history, and just passed the 150 million mark. And also lets forget about the tons of other products that Microsoft make (MS hardware, Xbox, Kinect, Office, Visual Studio, Windows Server, SQL server, Zune etc etc cetc), nobody buys those either.


Let's conveniently forget that Windows comes bundled with every computer that is sold leaving the customer with no alternative but to pay for it.

Let's conveniently forget the failure that was Vista, which can partially explain why many people are flocking to the over-hyped, magical and perfect Windows 7 which should be nothing more than a needed service pack to the Vista failed OS as it brings no new features.

Let's conveniently forget that Zune (genitalia in French-Canadian) is a selling failure when compared to an offering from Apple.

Let's conveniently forget the failure that was the last Microsoft phone, that was supposed to be a response to the iPhone but only 500 phones were sold. (...)

Lechio said,

Let's conveniently forget that Windows comes bundled with every computer that is sold leaving the customer with no alternative but to pay for it.

Let's conveniently forget the failure that was Vista, which can partially explain why many people are flocking to the over-hyped, magical and perfect Windows 7 which should be nothing more than a needed service pack to the Vista failed OS as it brings no new features.

No, Windows is not sold with every computer you buy. You can get Linux and soon Chrome. Also, you can get Pcs with NO OS installed and choose your own. Granted not all PCs manufacturers offer these options, but you have more choices on where to buy PCs and more choices on what you can do with a PC and what you can install.

techbeck said,

No, Windows is not sold with every computer you buy. You can get Linux and soon Chrome. Also, you can get Pcs with NO OS installed and choose your own. Granted not all PCs manufacturers offer these options, but you have more choices on where to buy PCs and more choices on what you can do with a PC and what you can install.


No you cannot. That's a joke right? Some vendors (few) have an alternative model with Linux, an inferior one and sometimes even outdated model from the one that is sold with Windows bundled on it.

dave164 said,

+1 for dumbest comment of the year.


+1 for the dumbest reply of the millennium.
See? I can reply with a nonsense, trollish and idiotic reply too.

Drunken Beard said,

Yeah, they really are in the verge of bankruptcy, poor Microsoft.


They aren't doing that good, last time I've checked. At least in the stock market.

.Neo said,
So basically Microsoft has to bribe people into coming to their new store by giving away free stuff, while Apple attracts hordes of people that actually want to buy a product off them.

Actually I frequently go into an Apple store to get a reality check that I can get the same specs for much less in a PC, a better phone in HTC, and a more open, productive and flexible software in Windows.

techbeck said,

No, Windows is not sold with every computer you buy. You can get Linux and soon Chrome. Also, you can get Pcs with NO OS installed and choose your own. Granted not all PCs manufacturers offer these options, but you have more choices on where to buy PCs and more choices on what you can do with a PC and what you can install.

Is that sort of like the choice to install windows and linux on a mac?

Charles Keledjian said,

Actually I frequently go into an Apple store to get a reality check that I can get the same specs for much less in a PC, a better phone in HTC, and a more open, productive and flexible software in Windows.

windows installs on mac so your point of it being more productive and flexible than osx isnt diminishing the value of the mac at all. your own fault if you cant figure out how to install more than one os or replace the os on the system all together.

Lechio said,

No you cannot. That's a joke right? Some vendors (few) have an alternative model with Linux, an inferior one and sometimes even outdated model from the one that is sold with Windows bundled on it.

Think again. Corporations can get PCs from places like Dell with NO OS installed. (not sure about the private/home market) I know since I order the PCs for my company and we do that from time to time. Its a little cheaper if we already have a Windows license and we can choose what we want to install. So if corporations want a PC but dont want the OS, they can choose not to have one by default.

SputnikGamer said,

Is that sort of like the choice to install windows and linux on a mac?

You are not talking about the same thing nor will I take the time to explain it to you.

SputnikGamer said,

windows installs on mac so your point of it being more productive and flexible than osx isnt diminishing the value of the mac at all. your own fault if you cant figure out how to install more than one os or replace the os on the system all together.

I think the main problem is about the specs, especially with the ridiculous pricing on the i7 mbp's, I mean £1600 for the basic 15" model, when I can get a HP envy 15 with the same processor and a better graphics card for £1000? Unless you think that OSX is worth £600 more than Windows 7 I really don't see how you can argue your point. The build quality of the envy is pretty much the same as the mbp. You can quite easily install OSX on the envy as well with a bit of fiddling.

Minimoose said,

I think the main problem is about the specs, especially with the ridiculous pricing on the i7 mbp's, I mean £1600 for the basic 15" model, when I can get a HP envy 15 with the same processor and a better graphics card for £1000? Unless you think that OSX is worth £600 more than Windows 7 I really don't see how you can argue your point. The build quality of the envy is pretty much the same as the mbp. You can quite easily install OSX on the envy as well with a bit of fiddling.

thats a totally different issue though. pricing of hardware has nothign to do with what os you can have on the system. according to techbeck, buying a PC is superior because you can put linux or windows on it. that isnt much of a point because you can do the same with a mac.

techbeck said,

You are not talking about the same thing nor will I take the time to explain it to you.

so you werent talking about putting an operating system other than windows on a pc? im pretty sure that this, "more choices on what you can do with a PC and what you can install", which was in a paragraph talking about installing an os on a computer is exactly about that.

SputnikGamer said,

so you werent talking about putting an operating system other than windows on a pc? im pretty sure that this, "more choices on what you can do with a PC and what you can install", which was in a paragraph talking about installing an os on a computer is exactly about that.

*sigh*

I was referring to what comes from the manufacturer...not what you put on AFTER the fact. Get it now?

And unless you can install Linux, Chrome, on a Mac...then yes, you have more options with a PC. You can install OSX (on select PCs), Linux, Chrome, DOS (dont need but you can do it), and any flavor of windows on a PC.

Lechio said,
See? I can reply with a nonsense, trollish and idiotic reply too.

But all your replies are like that, so what's different?

techbeck said,

And unless you can install Linux, Chrome, on a Mac...then yes, you have more options with a PC.
I don't wanna carry on this trolly-trolly crap, but you can install Linux on a Mac easily; not sure about Chrome OS, but probably, yeah.

They show the damn sales, which is what disproves your comment of "Pretty much, no-one buys their stuff anymore.".

The average-joe doesn't give a hoot about the stocks... Why have you shifted it onto something new.

And if you do care about stocks, Microsoft stocks rose to $31 a month or two ago, the highest they have been for quite a long time. There have been a lot of hickups in the stock market with the current financial climate. E.g. when the DOW crashed.

This link shows that Apple and MS stocks have been on the same shape / trend for quite a while. http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:AAPL. Something has just happened in the last month.

Let's conveniently forget that Windows comes bundled with every computer that is sold leaving the customer with no alternative but to pay for it.


Let's conveniently forget the failure that was Vista, which can partially explain why many people are flocking to the over-hyped, magical and perfect Windows 7 which should be nothing more than a needed service pack to the Vista failed OS as it brings no new features.

Let's conveniently forget that Zune (genitalia in French-Canadian) is a selling failure when compared to an offering from Apple.

Let's conveniently forget the failure that was the last Microsoft phone, that was supposed to be a response to the iPhone but only 500 phones were sold. (...)

Nope, a lot of OEMs offer linux too. Or you can buy a mac.

Too bad it got 20-30% of the OS market right? Right? As opposed to Mac which is at 5% and Linux which is at less than 1%. If Vista was a failure like you claim it was, then what are Mac and Linux?

As for Windows 7, it brings a lot of changes to Windows Vista. And even those changes are more than what Apple brings out every year. If 7 was a service pack to Vista, I wonder what 10.6 is to 10.5, or 10.5 is to 10.4?

Zune is only sold in America, and contrary to your belief..it actually sells pretty well.
And Kin was never designed or intended to be a competitor to the iPhone. Thats windows phone 7.

And you couldn't prove me wrong on the other points. Suprise suprise..I thought nobody buys their products right?

As for stock price its compared to Apple's overvalued one? What's going to happen when Steve Jobs dies huh? I mean the last time he got sick the stocks took a dive. And customers don't care about stock pricing, you said nobody buys MS products. Guess what, people do. Period.

.Neo said,
So basically Microsoft has to bribe people into coming to their new store by giving away free stuff, while Apple attracts hordes of people that actually want to buy a product off them.
You do realize Apple gives away t-shirts when they open a new store too right?

techbeck said,

No, Windows is not sold with every computer you buy. You can get Linux and soon Chrome. Also, you can get Pcs with NO OS installed and choose your own. Granted not all PCs manufacturers offer these options, but you have more choices on where to buy PCs and more choices on what you can do with a PC and what you can install.

Lolz, I manage a network with 40+ servers and 900 workstations, and every single one of them came bundled with M$ OS. You conveniently forget when Vista came out the forced Dell, HP, and all vendors to offer a paid downgrade to XP. So That pretty much forced everyone to upgrade.

Anyways, I use both Apple and Microsoft products. In my opinion you are not much of a techie if you don't!

Posted from my crappy i

.Neo said,

Apple has been/is actively involved into charity, so what's your point?


The article also states people there only came for the freebies.

It does not. It says some of the girls they interviewed were only there for the freebies. I'm sure people show up for Apple Store openings just for the promos as well.

SputnikGamer said,

and according to the all the anti apple trolls, the products are substandard products that are overpriced and completely worthless.

Oh come now, not completely worthless. Have you not seen the article on the iPhone4's camera??

.Neo said,
So basically Microsoft has to bribe people into coming to their new store by giving away free stuff, while Apple attracts hordes of people that actually want to buy a product off them.

Yeah, Microsoft bribes people, whereas Apple's own CEO tells you to get a $30 case for your phone to solve a problem that their internal testing squad was too stupid to find, right?

SputnikGamer said,

windows installs on mac so your point of it being more productive and flexible than osx isnt diminishing the value of the mac at all. your own fault if you cant figure out how to install more than one os or replace the os on the system all together.

Or it could be my fault for not wanting to pay hundreds of dollars extra to use an OS that I wouldn't want to touch with a five-foot pole.

satanist said,
What is MS store selling? Bumpers for iPhone 4?

Did you read the full article?
"The Microsoft Store's offer all of the Microsoft products found through online retailers and inside major retail chains, including keyboards and mice, Windows 7, Xbox360 and many more products. "

satanist said,
What is MS store selling? Bumpers for iPhone 4?

its people like you who seriously need to read articles, Your embarrassing your self.
And Why would Microsoft be selling bumpers for iPhone 4? there is a Apple store next to it!

Sebianoti said,

its people like you who seriously need to read articles, Your embarrassing your self.
And Why would Microsoft be selling bumpers for iPhone 4? there is a Apple store next to it!

*facepalm* sarcasm runs deep in these areas......

Sebianoti said,
its people like you who seriously need to read articles, Your embarrassing your self.
And Why would Microsoft be selling bumpers for iPhone 4? there is a Apple store next to it!

You mean like embarrassing yourself for not being able to get a thing called "sarcasm".

.Neo said,

You mean like embarrassing yourself for not being able to get a thing called "sarcasm".

i don't care if it was a Sarcasm, this isn't a playground...

Sebianoti said,
i don't care if it was a Sarcasm, this isn't a playground...

Interesting world view you have going on there if you think sarcasm is restricted to playgrounds only.

Sebianoti said,

i don't care if it was a Sarcasm, this isn't a playground...
The Internet is a giant playground, don't be so uptight

Sebianoti said,

its people like you who seriously need to read articles, Your embarrassing your self.
And Why would Microsoft be selling bumpers for iPhone 4? there is a Apple store next to it!

The only important thing is that he was the first one to post. Pretty much most first posts are just something thrown in there...

Odom said,

The only important thing is that he was the first one to post. Pretty much most first posts are just something thrown in there...

There was someone before him... 2 people before him and now they are gone

cloaked said,

retard

I hope you're referring to the iPhantoids paying to buy phones that have been fixed to keep from dropping calls, by adding an antenna that causes it to drop calls if you don't hold it right or...... Wait!!! ....that's why Apple pre-made Genuine CrApple Rainbow Color Rubber Bumpers. To cover up the fact they blew their design fix antenna by wearing a protective rubber! ...then it doesn't drop so many calls!