Microsoft confirms Windows Phone 7.8 is coming in "early 2013"

Cast your mind all the way back to June of this year, when Microsoft formally made its first official announcement about Windows Phone 8. At the same event, it disappointed early adopters of its Windows Phone 7 platform by confirming that their handsets would not be eligible for upgrade to the new OS.

But the company also said that it wouldn't leave those faithful users completely out in the cold, promising to deliver an update that would bring new features, including the new-style Start screen, to first- and second-generation devices. But since that announcement, almost nothing has been discussed by Microsoft about Windows Phone 7.8. Until now.


The first sign of Windows Phone 7.8, back in June

At long last, Microsoft has broken its silence on the 7.8 update. In a blog post, Terry Myerson, corporate vice president for Windows Phone, has now confirmed some of the features that the update will bring, including a greater selection of OS 'accent colours' (20 in total), and improved lock screen features such as the Bing Picture of the Day.

Sadly, there doesn't seem to be much in the way of features here that we haven't heard already - and if you were expecting good news regarding availability, you'll probably want to sit down and pour yourself a drink. Microsoft is commiting to getting the update "tested, approved and rolled out to as many devices as possible in early 2013", so those rumours suggesting it might starting being delivered to devices this week were evidently pretty wide of the mark.

The wording there also implies that not all devices will be updated; we've already had it confirmed by LG that the Optimus 7 won't see 7.8, but it's not yet clear if other devices will join the list of handsets that won't see the OS upgrade. One other device that seems unlikely to see 7.8 is the Dell Venue Pro, a handset that had something of a troubled life before it was finally withdrawn from sale in March of this year. The last update delivered to the Dell Windows Phone was 7.5 Mango.

Myerson also confirmed that new handsets with 7.8 are already beginning to launch, and will continue to do so in order to reach "a range of lower price points"; we've recently seen entry-level devices such as the Nokia Lumia 510 being announced with Windows Phone 7.5, while the Alcatel OneTouch is expected to launch with 7.8 soon. 

Evidently, we're still some way from Windows Phone 8 taking over as Redmond's sole smartphone OS.

Source: Windows Phone Blog

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In therms of investiment, Microsoft, of course, would realize more profit by forcing clients to buy a brand new terminal.
I guess they will release a new update just to make old costumers able to buy new apps - and developers are willing to make cross compatible apps to make more money - and the more money developers make, the more makes MS.
I'm supposing that, releasing to costumers, both WP8 and WP7.8, at the samte time, many costumers would be willing to stay with theyr own old terminals since, in therms of user interface, there would be too few differences to justify a new one.
So: MS is pushing people to buy a new terminal stressing old clients denayng them the update and giving the update to the ones whom really can't afford buying a new one.
I think that Ballmer's marketing strategy is far stronger than Gate's one, more aggressive, but many costumers doesn't like this way (though I have to say Ballmer's era products are better baked).

> "tested, approved and rolled out to as many devices as possible in early 2013"

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> The wording there also implies that not all devices will be updated; we've already had it confirmed by LG that the Optimus 7 won't see 7.8, but it's not yet clear if other devices will join the list of handsets that won't see the OS upgrade.

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Looks I'm ****ed. ****ing lying *******s.

this is so strange. they managed to deliver 7.5 EARLY and now its been close to 14 months since mango was released.

if anybody remembers the debacle with the zune hd facebook and twitter apps... just hope that doesn't happen here. MS had promised a facebook app by the end of the year... and it came out in april

I notice the apps market is a fail too.. Reason why, looking and using most apps on WP 7.5. Gleek is probably the best out there... I just hoping new app for WP 7.5 7.8 to be better in the future. One app i would like to see is instagram... But with all the bad news, it will only be available for WP 8... Microsoft is going to leave 7.5 with crappy apps of the past... We will have to wait and see the out come to all this bad news.

ogamawab said,
I notice the apps market is a fail too.. Reason why, looking and using most apps on WP 7.5. Gleek is probably the best out there... I just hoping new app for WP 7.5 7.8 to be better in the future. One app i would like to see is instagram... But with all the bad news, it will only be available for WP 8... Microsoft is going to leave 7.5 with crappy apps of the past... We will have to wait and see the out come to all this bad news.

Please don't use instragram. You're going to look back in 5 years time and wish you'd have kept the pictures in their original form rather then abusing them.

Microsoft - You all have screwed over the Windows Phone 7.5 owners. ADMIT IT! Windows Phone 8 is full of bugs and already people are on the boards complaining about it. It takes this long for you all to release an update and a fix for your phones? You all will NEVER EVER pass Google and Apple. You continue to fail and disappoint your customers each time. Just accept that fact that you all are LOSERS! when it comes to the Mobile market. It's not that the platform isn't good, it just that you all SUCK! when it comes to fixing and upgrading. It is because of that, that you all are going to crash the platform and cause what little following you have to switch back to Android, iPhone and even Blackberry at this point.

For the people who have smart remarks coming...I WILL BE A TROLL TODAY FOR TELLING THE TRUTH! LOVE IT OR HATE IT.

JSYOUNG571 said,
Microsoft - You all have screwed over the Windows Phone 7.5 owners. ADMIT IT! Windows Phone 8 is full of bugs and already people are on the boards complaining about it. It takes this long for you all to release an update and a fix for your phones? You all will NEVER EVER pass Google and Apple. You continue to fail and disappoint your customers each time. Just accept that fact that you all are LOSERS! when it comes to the Mobile market. It's not that the platform isn't good, it just that you all SUCK! when it comes to fixing and upgrading. It is because of that, that you all are going to crash the platform and cause what little following you have to switch back to Android, iPhone and even Blackberry at this point.

For the people who have smart remarks coming...I WILL BE A TROLL TODAY FOR TELLING THE TRUTH! LOVE IT OR HATE IT.

It's strange that you've reacted that way, its almost like you're a hater of Microsoft for some reason

Remember back when Nokia were the leader, Apple didn't even make phones, and Android was just wishful thinking of some geeks who played with Linux too much.

At the time, people said Apple couldn't enter the phone market, they were still regarded a small company by many when it came to entering the cell phone market. Getting a phone included on a carrier's line up is a feat for even long standing cell phone manufactures. It all changed very quickly though. Apple dominated the market that Nokia held for so long with near no competition from the likes of Android.

Now, even though Android was such a poor platform when it was released in comparison to Apple's more polished and colourful iOS, the shear numbers made up for that and over time it (Android) has progressed into a wonderful cell phone OS, going head to head near 50/50% market share with Apple's iPhone.
There is nothing to say that Microsoft can't pull it back with it's own Windows Phone OS and partners.

A lot of people said it was crazy for Microsoft to try and enter the gaming console market, with almost every developer signed up as exclusive rights with Sony.
Now the XBOX is right up there banging heads with the PS3, and the likes of Sega are not even producing console anymore.

Don't count your chickens before they've hatched as the saying goes, and don't think chick that eats the most will live the longest.

deadonthefloor said,
I would expect that LG Optimus Quantum is out of the 7.8 upgrade cycle as well.
LG told me months ago that thy released the update to AT&T who is sitting on it Now AT&T told me yesterday the Quantum C900 is on the list to get updated

So from Windows Mobile 6.x to Windows Phone 7.x no upgrade is possible.
From Windows Phone 7.x to 8.x no upgrade is possible.
Not all 7.0 phones got 7.5 right? (seriously, I'm asking)
Not all 7.5 phones will get 7.8 according to this.
If I read the "Windows Blue" post (http://www.neowin.net/news/win...e-next-big-windows-8-update) correctly there will be a new WIndows SDK with Blue that is different from Windows 8 apps which don't work on Windows 7.
At least there is no fragmentation Microsoft.

Asmodai said,
So from Windows Mobile 6.x to Windows Phone 7.x no upgrade is possible.
From Windows Phone 7.x to 8.x no upgrade is possible.
Not all 7.0 phones got 7.5 right? (seriously, I'm asking)
Not all 7.5 phones will get 7.8 according to this.
If I read the "Windows Blue" post (http://www.neowin.net/news/win...e-next-big-windows-8-update) correctly there will be a new WIndows SDK with Blue that is different from Windows 8 apps which don't work on Windows 7.
At least there is no fragmentation Microsoft.

Might pay to check your sources

Guessing this is a troll, so...

Asmodai said,
At least there is no fragmentation Microsoft.

Lean the difference between fragmentation and segregation...

Asmodai said,
So from Windows Mobile 6.x to Windows Phone 7.x no upgrade is possible.
From Windows Phone 7.x to 8.x no upgrade is possible.
Not all 7.0 phones got 7.5 right? (seriously, I'm asking)
Not all 7.5 phones will get 7.8 according to this.
If I read the "Windows Blue" post (http://www.neowin.net/news/win...e-next-big-windows-8-update) correctly there will be a new WIndows SDK with Blue that is different from Windows 8 apps which don't work on Windows 7.
At least there is no fragmentation Microsoft.

So apparently it is Microsoft's fault that LG and Dell are lazy? You know, said companies could talk to Microsoft and say, "hey, we'd really love to see this update on our phones - what can we do to make it possible" and thus it would be done. I guess whining and whinging with false information is a whole lot easier than sticking with the facts and who really is to blame for the fiasco.

Mr Nom Nom's said,

So apparently it is Microsoft's fault that LG and Dell are lazy? You know, said companies could talk to Microsoft and say, "hey, we'd really love to see this update on our phones - what can we do to make it possible" and thus it would be done. I guess whining and whinging with false information is a whole lot easier than sticking with the facts and who really is to blame for the fiasco.

LG jumped ship from Windows Phone before WP 8 platforms announced, they aren't even a partnership for Windows Phone anymore.
My guess is their Windows Phone team has been dissolved already and the cost of putting it back together and signing an update with Microsoft is too much for the small amount of users left and maybe for how long they expect them to retain their existing 7.x handsets, in this case the Optimus 7/ E900 (Not forgetting the rebranded Jil Sanders/E901).
Near all the original spec 7.0 devices used the same hardware, as the requirement from Microsoft as minimum hardware means Microsoft have already got the hardware drivers down from other devices it already supports. The turning factor here for LG is their branding and licensing that just isn't going to make sense for them to renew for another year or however long their agreement would have to be with Microsoft.

For LG it's more of a cut their losses approach to the entire Windows Phone platform. However, like many others, I feel they've been doing that a awful lot with near all their products they produce.

I'll be steering clear of any LG product from now on.

Mr Nom Nom's said,

So apparently it is Microsoft's fault that LG and Dell are lazy? You know, said companies could talk to Microsoft and say, "hey, we'd really love to see this update on our phones - what can we do to make it possible" and thus it would be done. I guess whining and whinging with false information is a whole lot easier than sticking with the facts and who really is to blame for the fiasco.


I actually don't mind the so called "fragmentation" the issue I have is that MS and many of the Windows Phone supporters point to when it occurs on Android as some awful thing that doesn't happen if you switch to Windows Phone... only it does. Sure it happens MORE on Android but only because there are a lot more Android versions and a lot more Android devices. But back to your point no it's not Microsoft's fault that "LG and Dell are lazy" any more than it is Google's fault that their device manufacturers don't update their devices to the latest version yet that doesn't seem to stop Windows Phones fans from attacking Android. At least Google doesn't keep rebooting the entire API and offers the "Nexus" devices directly so you can avoid carrier and hardware manufacturer restrictions. Maybe Microsoft should do similar and start selling "Microsoft Signature Phones" directly so they can get similar direct access.

Bad... But ok. 7.5 is actually working fine. The other bad thing is my carrier contract ends by december last days. So, I'll have to renew this contract. It could be renewed with oportunities to get a new handsets... But it still expensive.
So maybe I'll simply renew adopting a new contract less expensive and keep my actual 7.5
The only thing I would ask to Microsoft is to release something for sync 7.5 handsets with Windows RT...

Wireless wookie said,
Bad... But ok. 7.5 is actually working fine. The other bad thing is my carrier contract ends by december last days. So, I'll have to renew this contract. It could be renewed with oportunities to get a new handsets... But it still expensive.
So maybe I'll simply renew adopting a new contract less expensive and keep my actual 7.5
The only thing I would ask to Microsoft is to release something for sync 7.5 handsets with Windows RT...

I'm very surprised the Windows Phone app doesn't sync with existing 7.5 phones. It seems strange to abandon the Zune software (and brand). It feels very much like WP7.5 and the 7.8 update were a very late 'oh crap' after thought.

Bad news. I doubt they need this time to add more WP8 features, otherwise this would be good news. I don't mind waiting for soemthing better but it seems that 7.8 is 'finished' so having to wait what could be a quarter is something I do mind.

I really hope they release it for my Mozart. There is nothing worse than waiting for an update just to not get it at all. I'm sure they know which devices will see the update so they could release a list. Much better to have very upset fans now then extreemly angry fans in 2013.