Microsoft determined to offload Xbox HD DVD Player add-on

Thanks to OSNN's American Zombie, he spotted over at the Xbox.com website that Microsoft have opted to drop their HD DVD add-on drives for the Xbox 360 significantly to just $49.99. Thats a significant drop from the last time, when it was reduced by $20 to $179, just 7 months ago.

Anyone who wants to own a piece of nostalgic history (do you know anyone that still has a "betamax" video cassette player?) can now do so for a measly price. Maybe it's worth picking this up along with a few of the latest cheap HD-DVD films for a few cheap rainy nights in.

Of course it could be just a cool looking paperweight, because thats where it's destined to end up.

Link: Xbox.com HD-DVD Product page

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There are still some titles that I like available and the player will still play standard def DVD discs

The 360 alone will do that. You don't need the add-on.

Yes, I know the article is June '07, but it still pertains:

It's nearly a year old and HD DVD was still a "live" format.

This is about Microsoft trying to clear out inventory, hoping to catch those unaware or ignorant of the situation.

I bought one, and my Blockbuster still rents HD-DVD (they were a test store that rented both). Also, it will work as an upconverting DVD player for my standard def discs and not wear out my 360 drive. I was in the market and I would have paid about $50 (or more) for a stand alone upconverting dvd player anyway. I am waiting on a deal for The Matrix Trilogy.

You realize watching HD DVDs has all three cores at full tilt (DVDs only use one core).
I see a RROD in your future.

Besides, how long do you think before your Blockbuster does a risk recall and clears valuable shelf space?

Besides, how long do you think before your Blockbuster does a risk recall and clears valuable shelf space?

If they start clearing discs, I will buy what I want at discounted/clearance prices.

(PeterTHX said @ #11.1)
You realize watching HD DVDs has all three cores at full tilt (DVDs only use one core).
I see a RROD in your future.

Since when is RROD related to HD DVD drives? don't mix things up. Are the CPU and GPU in your computers at risk of burning after a couple of months because you spent your time playing World of Warcraft?

RROD is heat related.

Running the CPU maxed out produces more heat, therefore greater chance of failure.

HD DVD decoding runs the XBOX 360's CPU at 100%.

Just spoke to someone yesterday who's on their fifth XBOX 360 BTW.

(PeterTHX said @ #11.4)
Just spoke to someone yesterday who's on their fifth XBOX 360 BTW.

...And? Did this person say they watched HD-DVD on their 360, which is the topic at hand. Look, just go thread crap somewhere else. This topic is about Microsoft clearing out the Xbox 360. Go enjoy your BD. We get it, you think BD is better, bravo for you. You think my 360 will RR? Oh no, let me run around scared and never use it.

You do realize that not everyone's life revolves around HD video. I am not a big movie watcher. I only watch maybe once or twice a week (if that), and I rent not buy. I don't have a 5.1 setup, just a Samsung HD TV that is not even 1080p. My 360 is well ventilated. I don't worry about things like RROD since I do not stress my system continuously. If it happens, oh well, life will go on.

Now on topic, picture looks very nice and I can't get over how much quieter it is than my 360 drive. Both HD and SD look great. For the price, it cannot be beat. Also came with the remote and the drive has two more USB ports. Hopefully the BD player that Microsoft is supposed to be developing will plug in the same way so we can have the best of both.

It's not threadcrapping to address this issue.

"Well ventilated" or not, the 360 is poorly designed, rushed out the door to meet the holiday 2005 season to get a leg up on the PS3. It doesn't take much stress.

I am not a big movie watcher. I only watch maybe once or twice a week (if that), and I rent not buy

With Universal announcing that "Atonement" will be their last release, Paramount cancelling all HD DVDs announced, that stores will continue to rent them? Businesses are there to make money, not charity.

I would hate to see others suckered into buying this paperweight.

(PeterTHX said @ #11.6)
It's not threadcrapping to address this issue.

With Universal announcing that "Atonement" will be their last release, Paramount cancelling all HD DVDs announced, that stores will continue to rent them?

It is very much threadcrapping when you bring up something unrelated to the topic at hand (RROD vs MS clearing HD-DVD players).

Also, I will add this quote from an article. Yes, I know the article is June '07, but it still pertains:

the company will continue to rent HD DVD discs in the original 250 stores and via its online rental service

No announcements have been made recently saying that there are plans to drop HD from their online service (for which I am am a member) or the original 250 stores (for which I have three around me). Here is a link to the article:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/tags/show/Blockbuster

As far as I know, Netflix also still rents HD. I am well aware of the situation and I do know that HD will not be produced anymore. There are still some titles that I like available and the player will still play standard def DVD discs. That is all I am going to say. Have a nice day.

"anyone dumb enough to purchase a dead format kinda gets what they deserve I guess."

Yeah they get a library of around five hundred High Definition movies that very shortly will be five to ten bucks a pop, and a player for fifty bucks, thirty if you subtract the twenty that King Kong would normally cost, plus all of the movies that aren't on Blue Ray just yet, like American Gangster, so you can't get any new movies, that doesn't take away from what you already have.

500??

You realize that the HD DVD PRG cooked their numbers didn't you? Duplicates.

A title released separately overseas was counted as another title, even if it was already released in another country.

For example there's at least FOUR different versions of "Pan's Labyrinth" on HD DVD!

I'd be surprised if the HD DVD total was more than 250-300.

I bought one and have it hooked up to my PC. Don't have any software to watch the movies though -_- I am a tech junky, I am seriously bad, and I figure it's only 50 bucks, plus I'm getting a piece of 'The Great Format War'. Lmfao =P

BR won because sony has more money than toshiba to put towards making companies choose their format. Wasnt anything else.

(shakey said @ #8)
BR won because sony has more money than toshiba to put towards making companies choose their format. Wasnt anything else.

Wow brilliant deduction. That's exactly why Blu won...

(shakey said @ #1)
BR won because sony has more money than toshiba to put towards making companies choose their format. Wasnt anything else.

Does it smell like an HD-DVD fanboy ?

Interesting.

Jeffrey Katzenberg (the "K" in Dreamworks SKG) admitted the payout and there were numerous articles in the press including a huge one in the Wall Street Journal about the Paramount/Dreamworks payoff by Toshiba and the HD DVD PRG.

There have been NO articles or proven payoffs by any of the Blu-ray studios or retailers about Blu-ray, save for the tin-foil hat accusations of some HD DVD zealots.

Truth of the matter is when a format is backed by the majority of electronics companies & studios, and the players (including the PS3) and software are double or triple the sales of the other format, the retailers follow the winning team. Blu-ray won, fairly, despite the shenanigans of Toshiba & Microsoft in this format war. Their format collapsed in less than two months after Warner announced their decision to back BD only.

(shakey said @ #8)
BR won because sony has more money than toshiba to put towards making companies choose their format. Wasnt anything else.

:rolleyes:

LOL fanboy comment

So, after all, the move of Sony to push PS3 with a useless bd (useless in the context that "few" games will fill a bd disk) wasn't bad after all.

useless in the context that "few" games will fill a bd disk

Currently. They said the same thing about CD-ROMs vs DVD-ROMs.

I have quite a few PC games that are filled to the brim on DVD-9s. Need more than 8.5GB? Then go BD-ROM.

You guys have to look at the long term picture. The PS2 was released in 2000 and there are still titles coming out for it after all this time.

Where do you even start with something like this?

MS is shady as hell for trying to offload these things but anyone dumb enough to purchase a dead format kinda gets what they deserve I guess.

MS already won the format battle which they were fighting: hurry the standardization of one and death of the other of these high-definition disc-based formats so that they'll be more quickly set up to win the true next-gen format war = digital distribution.

Don't believe that conspiracy theory? Just watch the moves that get made in the next few weeks/months. (a lot of them have already been made behind the scenes and we are just waiting on negotiations to finalize)

Project Midway's goal was to overtake the living room after all.

i don't believe digital distribution will work. It sounds great, but it depends on many different factors like service providers and bandwidth caps and download speed. My TV provider has competitive services in its own digital distribution, they may not be as advanced as Microsoft's, but my internet is what would limit Microsoft's services from entering in my front room.

One only needs to look at Steam to see how well digital distribution can work.

But yes, larger pipes are most definitely part of the initiative as well as higher quality compression/streaming schemes.

Digital distribution is inevitable. It's just a matter of who wants to seriously fund the big push.

(Aahz said @ #6.2)
One only needs to look at Steam to see how well digital distribution can work.

But yes, larger pipes are most definitely part of the initiative as well as higher quality compression/streaming schemes.

Digital distribution is inevitable. It's just a matter of who wants to seriously fund the big push.

I guess your right, it can't be stoped. I guess the bigger question is though, how long before it becomes 'the way'? I don't want to pay my ISP for faster speeds, higher bandwidth caps, that should be given to me as this technology progresses (I pay enough as is!). I know people who pay for lite speed internet, digital distribution won't work well for them.

As I said, my TV service provider has their own distribution service, and it always fails when I use it.. I don't know why I bother (VOD), and they don't even offer their VOD service in HD yet..

I would like to conclude though, I think competition in the digital distribution business is healthy and should be promoted when it could be, It would help improve QOS for when quality starts slacking. If my TV provider actually gets their act together and fixes their system, Microsoft's got to give me a reason I'd want to use their service over my service providers.

I've heard it's coming to Blu-Ray but not till about 2009 (no official source, so take with grain of salt) Also the director, Michael Bay (who is pro-Blu-Ray zealot) predicted the death of HD-DVD, which of cause is gonna make him more smug now that it happened...

Yeah I'm happy with my HD-DVD drive as well, Transformers and Planet Earth (which I know is also on Blu-Ray) alone made it worth while for me

Talk about bitter.

2009? Try any day now. The title & SKU number is in a number of retailer systems.

All I have seen is FUD from the HD DVD side on this board and you call Bay a zealot? He was outraged that his film was sold off by Paramount and released in the inferior format. The one that collapsed like the house of cards it was in a week.

Anyone know if it is worth buying one of these even if one does not have an HDTV at the moment? I mean, does it offer a higher quality picture even on SDTV's as opposed to standard DVD's? Or should I just wait until I get an HDTV in 25 years?

From I can tell, there's not really an improvement on standard definition televisions. You might as well stick with regular DVDs until you get HDTV. If you don't mind watching on your computer, you'll definitely get better picture there, but if you're monitor is not very large or runs at a lower resolution, it probably wouldn't make that big of a difference.

(AltoidBox said @ #4.1)
From I can tell, there's not really an improvement on standard definition televisions. You might as well stick with regular DVDs until you get HDTV. If you don't mind watching on your computer, you'll definitely get better picture there, but if you're monitor is not very large or runs at a lower resolution, it probably wouldn't make that big of a difference.

Yeah, on this PC I'm on it's just a 17" CRT. My other PC (which I can't get in here yet) has a 19" LCD. But I think I'll just wait until I get an HDTV in the end, and I'll wind up getting Blu-Ray lol

I picked up one of these yesterday. Comes with 1 HD DVD movie in the box and 5 more through the mail. I don't have an XBox 360, but the drive installs perfectly in Windows Vista. I've seen drivers for WinXP as well. I imagine HD DVDs at stores will be getting cheap here in a few weeks.

Also, if you do have an XBox, it not only comes with the drive and movies, but also the XBox DVD remote.

At least Sony did better this round.

Round 1 - BetaMAX vs VHS
Round 2 - DVD vs public
Round 3 - Blue Rae vs HHD DVD

I wonder what would be Round 4?

Round 4 - Hard Disk vs Solid State Disk

SSD can hold much more than Blue Rae

(Digital Oracle said @ #2.1)
At least Sony did better this round.

Round 1 - BetaMAX vs VHS
Round 2 - DVD vs public
Round 3 - BluRay vs HD DVD

I wonder what would be Round 4?

Round 4 - Hard Disk vs Solid State Disk

SSD can hold much more than BluRay

Well, HDD vs SSD isn't really a battle that needs to be won. Neither are competing for movie distribution (nor will they ever, just based on size and/or cost). And they work perfectly side-by-side in near any setup.

SSD's will probably always have a higher $/GB ratio than HDD's, so unless something comes along that is both cheaper and faster, they'll both be around for a long time I bet.

I own and have stored a Sony Betamax C5 and C7 players. The C7 came with a remote control too. Plus some where I have many Betamax video tapes.

So yeah, I can say, unfortunately I can remember the BetaMAX paper weight / door stops

I wonder how much they could be worth these days - EBAY time

(Digital Oracle said @ #1)
I own and have stored a Sony Betamax C5 and C7 players. The C7 came with a remote control too. Plus some where I have many Betamax video tapes.

So yeah, I can say, unfortunately I can remember the BetaMAX paper weight / door stops

I wonder how much they could be worth these days - EBAY time


AFAIK, blu-ray and HD DVD have a 60 year shelf life ? After that, good bye! So can't really keep it for ebay, the discs will be blank lol