Microsoft dumps Live Mesh in Windows Essentials 2012 with SkyDrive

On Tuesday, Microsoft announced a new version of Windows Essentials 2012 was available to download. At the time, the company promoted its new versions of Movie Maker and Photo Gallery that were included in this new collection of small Windows applications for Windows 7 and Windows 8. Other Windows Essentials programs such as Mail and Messenger don't seem to have received an update in this new collection.

However, Microsoft has quietly dumped one of the applications found in the previous versions of Windows Essentials. In an FAQ page on the Windows blog, the company admits that Live Mesh, the file synchronization and remote desktop app, is not a part of Windows Essentials 2012. Microsoft states:

If you have Windows Live Mesh installed, it will automatically be removed if you install the new Movie Maker or Photo Gallery (available as part of Windows Essentials 2012). Microsoft SkyDrive will be installed in place of Windows Live Mesh. To sync folders from the cloud to all of your PCs, you will need to install SkyDrive on all of your PCs or Macs.

So if you really want to keep Live Mesh, your only option is to keep using the previous release found in Windows Live Essentials 2011. Microsoft says, " ...  you cannot install and run both Windows Essentials 2012 (with the new Movie Maker or Photo Gallery) and Windows Live Mesh on the same PC."

Via: ZDNet.com
Source: Windows blog

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Microsoft is becoming the friend you take to the party that no one likes, and you eventually run out of excuses for them! I like the new Mesh, but I don't like the fact that they introduced Remote Controlling another computer, then just drop it!

A couple of years ago? I bought Live OneCare for my computers at home, started recommending it to my friends....THEN POOF Microsoft drops it. I almost bought a Kin phone, thank God Microsoft dropped that before I got stuck with it. Then a few months ago I bought a Windows 7.5 phone, and it had only come out a few months before I got it. I love the phone, but now I find out that microsoft will not be providing any path for an upgrade to the new Windows 8 Phone OS!

One thing I don't like in SkyDrive app is that I need to download EVERYTHING from SkyDrive account to my computers. I have many photos and not-that-important-documents on SkyDrive, I really don't want those files to occupy my hard disk space.

alxtsg said,
One thing I don't like in SkyDrive app is that I need to download EVERYTHING from SkyDrive account to my computers. I have many photos and not-that-important-documents on SkyDrive, I really don't want those files to occupy my hard disk space.


Right. With Mesh I could choose which folders to sync, where to sync them on other computers and what computers, I wanted them to sync on. Even better, I can sync between two computers and NOT the cloud (skydrive). This is HUGE for stuff like simple backups/sync of important files between computers that goes beyond the 25GB (or 7GB) barrier from SkyDrive. I do think that Mesh and SkyDrive are two totally different feature sets and Microsoft is making a huge mistake by removing this product. The ultimate (and desired) cloud sync toy would be one that has BOTH features. It would beat anything out there hands down. That combined with all the neat skydrive features (access files from any computer you have defined, anywhere), that would be an amazing app. The code is there, just combine the two. Don't leave us without features we've come to depend on damnit. There was already that issue when the first Mesh Beta went away and we were forced to use Live Sync which was eventually rebranded Live Mesh.

Before people completely meltdown and panic...

Keep using your Mesh, and wait for the functionality to be included in the newer SkyDrive App and new features upcoming.

As for finding an 'alternative' Syncing App, if you are doing this on a local network or a laptop that is connected to a network from time to time, use 'Offline Files' it is the core technology that Mesh was based on and was designed for Syncing.

You can even use Offline Files over remote connections.

The only 'catch' is Offline Files requires the Professional/Business or Ultimate/Enterprise version of Windows, as the Home versions don't have the feature enabled, but they can be with a mod.

thenetavenger said,
Before people completely meltdown and panic...

Keep using your Mesh, and wait for the functionality to be included in the newer SkyDrive App and new features upcoming.

You are of course assuming that such functionality will be added to the SkyDrive app BEFORE Microsoft fully pulls the plug on Mesh!!!

first they say that you shouldn't use SkyDrive as a backup for your projects and stuff, then they disable the ability to easily make backups on your own by syncing between your own pc's. even if they don't force it this decision still sucks. and they didn't even put too much effort into new Essentials (only Movie Maker got some nice features, but still doesn't have a normal timeline)

The overlord giveth and the overlord taketh away. wtf is wrong with ms at the moment? ffs, stop screwing people over.

Count one more in favor of Mesh's ability to sync files between machines without leaving the confines of your own LAN. SkyDrive is just not a viable replacement.

Lucky when I checked last night I didn't find the new Live Essentials installer! I won't be updating until SkyDrive can do what Live Mesh can. It's the most important application for me from the package. Don't care at all about the remote desktop, just the file synching, makes life so much easier if you use more than one machine regularly and change files.

Can I choose which folders to sync with Skydrive? Last time I tried Skydrive I couldn't, which is shocking.

Yeah, count me in as one of those that uses live mesh mainly for offline sync, backIng up all essential data from my main desktop and media laptop to my server, windows 7 server lol. This is going to be suck, as far as I know there's an even older app from Microsoft called SyncToy doing everything live mesh does but u have to run it manually and only work within local network

Yeah, count me in as one of those that uses live mesh mainly for offline sync, backIng up all essential data from my main desktop and media laptop to my server, windows 7 server lol. This is going to be suck, as far as I know there's an even older app from Microsoft called SyncToy doing everything live mesh does with

Before Microsoft completely cuts off Live Mesh (which I imagine will be fairly soon) I really hope they somehow port over the PC to PC sync to Skydrive. To me this is one of Live Mesh's key features over Skydrive. I personally use Mesh to sync my +120GB music collection and a bunch of other larger files across multiple machines. To make this possibly they might also have to bring back the picking of more than one specific folder which I'd also love.

If anyone knows any good, free and lightweight alternatives for Mesh I'd love to hear about them.

Edited by Carl2, Aug 8 2012, 7:30pm :

This is bull****. Until SkyDrive has ALL the features it lacks that Live Mesh has, this is not acceptable. Even more unacceptable is removing software from my PC without the PC's user really being aware of it - and I dont mean some blog post - somewhere in the main pages (not EULA) of the install screens, it should be telling users this.
How does one go about getting this back? The link to 2011 doesn't show Mesh as an option to install.

jonofezz said,
This is bull****. Until SkyDrive has ALL the features it lacks that Live Mesh has, this is not acceptable. Even more unacceptable is removing software from my PC without the PC's user really being aware of it - and I dont mean some blog post - somewhere in the main pages (not EULA) of the install screens, it should be telling users this.
How does one go about getting this back? The link to 2011 doesn't show Mesh as an option to install.

I managed to find the 2011 version back on CNET and reinstalled that, so Mesh is back as the version linked above in the article didn't seem to offer me the option.

jonofezz said,
This is bull****. Until SkyDrive has ALL the features it lacks that Live Mesh has, this is not acceptable. Even more unacceptable is removing software from my PC without the PC's user really being aware of it - and I dont mean some blog post - somewhere in the main pages (not EULA) of the install screens, it should be telling users this.
How does one go about getting this back? The link to 2011 doesn't show Mesh as an option to install.

Keep your existing Mesh install until Skydrive adds the functionality.

It is coming...

This sucks. I use mesh to sync folders that I don't need on SkyDrive all the time. Does anyone know of a good, preferably free, alternative?

mrp04 said,
This sucks. I use mesh to sync folders that I don't need on SkyDrive all the time. Does anyone know of a good, preferably free, alternative?

Use your existing Mesh, and wait for the updates to the SkyDrive App.

The same 'functionality' is there, it just is not obvious, because it requires using the remote sharing and selective SkyDrive Sync tricks.

Just like Live Mesh's remote features, they are NOT need with RDP as advanced as it is with Win7 and especially Win8 that can stream DWM content and video to non-Windows devices for the first time.

ftpbox
dropbox
sugarsync

mrp04 said,
This sucks. I use mesh to sync folders that I don't need on SkyDrive all the time. Does anyone know of a good, preferably free, alternative?

I used Mesh before SkyDrive has an app, but one thing I'll miss from the former that the latter doesn't, have and I think needs, is offline syncing.

Now I'll use a thumb drive to move large files from one PC to the other.

Also, I liked that Mesh had remote desktop.

Well this kinda blows. I love SkyDrive and all but I use Live Mesh for its ability to synch any folder on my machine to the Cloud as opposed to just the SkyDrive folder.

BOOOOO to this decision MSFT!!

I use both Live Mesh and SkyDrive and they don't even have any mutual functionalities!

I was forewarned about it today in the forum topic so I'm not really surprised, I just think it's a bad decision. At least let me install and use it separately.

Marcin Kurek said,
Seriously MS? I use both and they don't even have any mutual functionalities!

Switch to Teamviewer. Much better.

Marcin Kurek said,
I use both Live Mesh and SkyDrive and they don't even have any mutual functionalities!

I was forewarned about it today in the forum topic so I'm not really surprised, I just think it's a bad decision. At least let me install and use it separately.

Well not if SkyDrive eventually gains "Mesh" ability

billyea said,

Switch to Teamviewer. Much better.

Will it let me access a machine that's just been turned on and no user logged in?

I love Mesh because it's easy to maintain. All I need to make my machine easily accessible is adding it to the account. The app doesn't even need to be in the background, because everything is handled by a system service.

Well not if SkyDrive eventually gains "Mesh" ability


"Eventually"? Maybe they should've done that first, before phasing out the (arguably) obsolete product?

Marcin Kurek said,

Will it let me access a machine that's just been turned on and no user logged in?

Yes, it will. Teamviewer is a great product. I've used it for years.

Nerd Rage said,

Yes, it will. Teamviewer is a great product. I've used it for years.

Thanks, that's relieving to hear. I'll give it a try soon.

billyea said,

Switch to Teamviewer. Much better.

100% agree. I don't know why remote desktop was a "premium" feature anyway. It works great and does so much