Microsoft invests in Pirate Pay, wants to stop BitTorrent traffic

If you remember back to Napster and subsequently LimeWire, you will recall the golden days of pirating music and movies where finding quality content was a simple task and always yielded great results... er, not that we would know. Shortly thereafter, the services were filled with viruses, bad links and other content that made the services highly unreliable.

Today, BitTorrent has taken over what Napster started and is typically regarded to have the same quality content and is also highly reliable, if you do your homework.  As you can imagine, the movie, music and software industries want to combat this piracy and Microsoft has helped to lead that charge with a $100,000 investment in a Russian firm, Pirate Pay, according to Torrent Freak.

Pirate Pay is a company based in Russia that has created a program that can disrupt the BitTorrent process flow. The idea sounds very similar to what happened to Napster and LimeWire where the company floods clients with false information.

The company was recently hired by Walt Disney and Sony to help protect 'Vysotsky, Thank God I'm Alive':

“We used a number of servers to make a connection to each and every P2P client that distributed this film. Then Pirate Pay sent specific traffic to confuse these clients about the real IP-addresses of other clients and to make them disconnect from each other,” Andrei Klimenko says.”

The report states that they were able to disrupt 44k transfers during their campaign but it is unknown how many successful downloads actually occurred.

While we don’t condone piracy, we cannot ignore that it happens and the studios/vendors claim that they lose billions of year to this trade. The end result is a cat and mouse game and Pirate Pay is an attempt to combat BitTorrent, but until they figure out how to disrupt private trackers, the software will only be able to target a small number of sources. 

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Aethec said,
At first I read "Microsoft invests in Pirate Bay".
One letter makes all the difference...

I was confused through the whole article...

This is not surprising, but like anything else, some other form of P2P sharing will replace it.

Aethec said,
At first I read "Microsoft invests in Pirate Bay".
One letter makes all the difference...

It took me your comment to realise it wasn't Pirate Bay

This will be an interesting one, when a lot of businesses use Torrents in a legal way (World of Warcraft for example).

JustinN said,
This will be an interesting one, when a lot of businesses use Torrents in a legal way (World of Warcraft for example).

The legal stuff is fine and won't be targeted.

Astra.Xtreme said,

The legal stuff is fine and won't be targeted.

Of course you know this for sure, yes? Kind of like how the patriot act was "only for the terrorists" then they started targeting regular American citizens for non-terrorist things.

You sir are naive if you honestly think it's going to stop at your next search for Brokeback Mountain. If you know what you said is true then, source or stfu.

Astra.Xtreme said,

The legal stuff is fine and won't be targeted.

Lets assume I develop a competing MMORPG and I want to increase my market share.... disturbing WoW's update mechanism is a good way to get their users to be frustrated and possibly look for an alternative game (ex: mine)

KCRic said,
Of course you know this for sure, yes? Kind of like how the patriot act was "only for the terrorists" then they started targeting regular American citizens for non-terrorist things.

You sir are naive if you honestly think it's going to stop at your next search for Brokeback Mountain. If you know what you said is true then, source or stfu.

Have some respect... Any reason you have to be such a hostile prick?
How about we use some common sense, shall we? First of all, piracy is downloading something illegally. You understand that, right? Good... Now, why do you think it's called "Pirate Pay"? Hmm, maybe because it targets pirates. WOW, who would have thought? Are you a pirate if you downloading something that's not copyrighted? No... So why would they waste resources on something that's not breaking any laws? Is using bittorrent illegal? No. Is using bittorrent to download copyrighted material illegal? Yes. I'll trust you can use your brain and put 2 and 2 together... Have a nice day...

KCRic said,

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You sir are naive if you honestly think it's going to stop at your next search for Brokeback Mountain. If you know what you said is true then, source or stfu.

Nice homophobic insinuation. Looks like the trash is out en force today!

Astra.Xtreme said,

Have some respect... Any reason you have to be such a hostile prick?
How about we use some common sense, shall we? First of all, piracy is downloading something illegally. You understand that, right? Good... Now, why do you think it's called "Pirate Pay"? Hmm, maybe because it targets pirates. WOW, who would have thought? Are you a pirate if you downloading something that's not copyrighted? No... So why would they waste resources on something that's not breaking any laws? Is using bittorrent illegal? No. Is using bittorrent to download copyrighted material illegal? Yes. I'll trust you can use your brain and put 2 and 2 together... Have a nice day...


I don't think the issue is Pirate Pay itself, but the concept. Basically what this company does is take payment for DDOS attacks. What is to stop another company from springing up that takes payment to attack legitimate torrents as a form of attacking market competition?

The issue with most of these anti-piracy attacks and technologies is that the (potentially) leave themselves wide open to abuse. Yes lets put in technology to censor child porn; hey look, now that same technology can now be used to censor anti-government opinion blogs. Let's put in technology to spam illegal torrents; hey look, that technology can be used to attack business competition.

News source is March 2011.

I gather there hasn't been any widespread success since then which we have heard about. Waste of money from MS Russia.

Funny that Microsoft is having so much faith in a Russian company providing anti-piracy solutions when in late 2010 there was news of the Russian government developing it's own operating system to rival Windows.

ExtremeG said,
Funny that Microsoft is having so much faith in a Russian company providing anti-piracy solutions when in late 2010 there was news of the Russian government developing it's own operating system to rival Windows.

Funny that Sony makes Windows laptops.

ExtremeG said,
Funny that Microsoft is having so much faith in a Russian company providing anti-piracy solutions when in late 2010 there was news of the Russian government developing it's own operating system to rival Windows.

wasnt that going to be some linux distro?
then hah, MS has nothing to fear

So messing with my internet isn't wrong also? Effecting the quality of my experience is ok?

This is like creating some device that paralyzes all male drivers because we are "more inclined" to break the law and speed/drive recklessly. Wait, insurance companies already cripple our wallets for being men. I guess this kind of s**t's ok as long as it's not a minority or women being targeted. Sure it may start out with specific content but honestly, when was the last time any company knew when to stop? When was the last time governments didn't stick their grubby little fingers into the pot either? Never.

They'll back MS on this in order to enact laws that otherwise would have a hell of a time being passed. This way it's "legal". Just another loophole.

**** off Microsoft. I'm glad I didn't pay for my copy of W7. I will now add my wifes copy, parents, and a few friends to that list.

KCRic said,
So messing with my internet isn't wrong also? Effecting the quality of my experience is ok?

This is like creating some device that paralyzes all male drivers because we are "more inclined" to break the law and speed/drive recklessly. Wait, insurance companies already cripple our wallets for being men. I guess this kind of s**t's ok as long as it's not a minority or women being targeted. Sure it may start out with specific content but honestly, when was the last time any company knew when to stop? When was the last time governments didn't stick their grubby little fingers into the pot either? Never.

They'll back MS on this in order to enact laws that otherwise would have a hell of a time being passed. This way it's "legal". Just another loophole.

**** off Microsoft. I'm glad I didn't pay for my copy of W7. I will now add my wifes copy, parents, and a few friends to that list.

What's in it for Microsoft to pay to have a company disrupt downloads of someone else's product? There's no reason this would not be a targeted attack. These things take resources, and that's not free.

LaP said,
Is it even legal ?

No, but I think that's why it's so good the company is based in Russia, surely they have loopholes or can set up some "special rules" for a company that will cash in big and hence -> pay good taxes!

GS:mac

LaP said,
Is it even legal ?

Not in most western countries where any denial or interdiction of service is deemed a legal offense. It's quite ironic then that the copyright cartels and Microsoft are funding these illegal activities yet at the same time complaining about file-sharing and calling it "stealing" and "illegal". What a bunch of hypocrites.

It's almost like they're using some kind of attack to deny service.

We used a number of servers to make a connection to each and every P2P client that distributed this film.

And it's distributed! Hmm...

I'm sure at some point someone will give a list of IP#'s this is coming from and make them public so I can block them in my torrent client.

Lose billions a year my arse, if ppl didn't download the films the amount of ppl thatwill of watched the film will be lower cus its crap. Seems to be make a crap film, no one buys it well must be piracy!
For things like hurt locker I wouldn't of bought it anyway and wouldn't of even thought about it till it came on TV although it is a good game. I'll be buying avengers just cus well its bloody hilarious. That's how a film should be made and if Prometheus is as good as I think it will be ill be buying that to <-- got alien quadrilogy. If a movie is WORTH buyingthen it'll be bought, problem is so few are

Well, apparently the technology is not 100% foolproof. And worst, they are yet to prove the efficiency of it.

My bet it is a scam.

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