Microsoft: No info on sales of the Surface RT

Microsoft held its regular quarterly conference call with financial analysts today as part of its fourth quarter 2012 financial announcements. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer did not attend today's conference call but it did have the company's chief financial officer Peter Klein as part of the event.

During the conference call, Klien repeated previously announced stats on the sales of Windows 8 licenses (60 million) along with 100 million downloads of Windows 8 app. However, Klein declined to mention how many units of its Windows RT version of its Surface tablet it had sold during the final quarter of the year.

During the Q&A session of the conference call, Klein admitted that the Surface had limited distribution in much of the fourth quarter. Some estimates by analysts have suggested that Microsoft sold one million tablets during the last quarter. However, Klein added that Microsoft will continue to expand both the distribution and the availability of the Surface tablet family.

As we have previously reported, Microsoft plan to put the Windows 8 Pro version of the Surface tablet on sale starting on February 9th in the US and Canada; Microsoft has yet to announce any plans for people to pre-order the tablet before it goes on sale.

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well, some even said it was LESS than 1M units sales. (around 500,000 to 600,000 sales)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/er...below-1m-units-analyst-says

As Microsoft initialy expect the sales within 2M to 3M units, thats some serious mistakes,
I mean thats more than 70% wrong estimations.
I've seen companies makes 25% off estimation, but 70% ?

Probably because it was too embarassing, MS refuse to make any confirmations.

Torolol said,
well, some even said it was LESS than 1M units sales. (around 500,000 to 600,000 sales)

That analyst is an idiot. He said he expected sales of 2-3 million Surface Pros in December when Microsoft said from the start Surface Pro wasn't launching till at least end of January. Either way that estimate is from before Microsoft expanded sales to other retailers like Best Buy.

As Microsoft initialy expect the sales within 2M to 3M units, thats some serious mistakes

Where exactly did they say this? Ballmer himself said he only expected to sell a few million over the next entire year: http://www.forbes.com/sites/er...n-surface-pcs-in-next-year/

So now you're saying they expected 3 million in 2 months? You're just lying.

ModernMech said,

Where exactly did they say this? Ballmer himself said he only expected to sell a few million over the next entire year: http://www.forbes.com/sites/er...n-surface-pcs-in-next-year/

Mind you that Ballmer did say word "few" instead of "A" million.
So expecting 2 or 3 million is a fair guesstimation.

ModernMech said,

So now you're saying they expected 3 million in 2 months? You're just lying.

at least its possible with Apple or Android devices...
and indeed Apples solds 20M iPad in very same periods.

ModernMech said,

Either way that estimate is from before Microsoft expanded sales to other retailers like Best Buy.

yep, but even the Redmondians knew that they waging a losing battle,
so, despite the so called "High Consumer interrest in Surface RT" (which i don't believe), Microsoft slash the Surface RT productions,
http://www.channelregister.co....soft_halves_surface_orders/
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20121128PD215.html
which happen even before analyst revise their predictions.

That sources indicates that MS originaly have plan to sale 4 million units.
so give it up fanboys, even folks at MS knew surface RT will have weak sales.

Probably due to the new Tegra4 is coming,
using only Tegra3 you can't expect Surface RT will strengthen its sales.

Torolol said,

Mind you that Ballmer did say word "few" instead of "A" million. So expecting 2 or 3 million is a fair guesstimation.

2 or 3 million in a YEAR. That's 12 months. Not 2 months.

at least its possible with Apple or Android devices...

Apple and Android devices are available in more countries and in more stores. Surface is only available in about 10 countries and a handful of stores. This again underlines the absurdity of your assertion that Microsoft expected to sell 4 million, as they themselves characterized the rollout as "modest."

so, despite the so called "High Consumer interrest in Surface RT" (which i don't believe), Microsoft slash the Surface RT productions,

You quote two sources that both cite the same unknown "upstream supply chain" source. In direct contradiction to your unsubstantiated rumors, Microsoft said they're increasing production, putting Surface in more retail stores, getting it to more countries, and expanding the lineup:

http://news.yahoo.com/microsof...ng-retailers-215334235.html

http://www.neowin.net/news/mic...the-surface-product-line-up

Does it make any sense at all that a company would order 4 million units, cut the order in half, and then increase production and expand availability?

I been saying it from day one and its Proven to be correct . This pro is an absurdly priced tablet and windows RT was / is the biggest mistake since windows Me.

all the tech web sites mostly blog about surface and regardless of the number MS sells, the word surface get around. In a way, it's going to be like household word like "Tivo". Sorta like the first thing someone says windows tablet, the word "Surface" pop up

sinis said,
not only the price.
Metro Apps sucks , even android apps are better, and that is very sad.

The price is quite cheap considering its quad core and has office 2013... Android tablets are horrible, end of story

They'll tell you how many apps are on their store, but they won't tell you how many devices are capable of running said apps. I want Windows RT to do well, but when you only share the good information while hiding the rest, it kind of make me hesitant to invest in the ecosystem IMHO.

Surface is only one of many devices that can run the apps. What's needed to run the apps is Windows 8/RT, and Microsoft has told us that it's sold 60 million licenses.

Great point. I bought both my iPad 4th Gen and iPad mini for Christmas presents from Walmart. The prices were the same as from the Apple store. They even shipped them to me.

Precisely. If the numbers were that great, they would WANT to announce them. Just to brag, you know. The absence of such is concerning.

BTW, Microsoft has been telling us numbers but people around here seem to go out of their way to find some way to claim that Microsoft is lying. So if they said they sold 30 or 30 million, there would be a group of people who would still claim they are lying, so why should they give exact numbers?

nohone said,
Like the way Apple refuses to separate the number of iPads sold vs. number of iPad Minis sold?

Exactly the same way: great numbers... You brag about, bad numbers.... You do not disclose them. It has been always the same for any company; I do not see anything new...

nohone said,
Like the way Apple refuses to separate the number of iPads sold vs. number of iPad Minis sold?

Always the first to bring up the big Apple, aren't we? We get it, Microsoft doesn't get a fair shake on this Microsoft focused website.

Anyways, I wouldn't say Apple is REFUSING to divide their products up. The kept their information pretty straight forward. Sales for Macs, iPads, iPhones, and iPods. That's it. But at least they present numbers. Again, how many Windows RT devices have been sold?

Yeah...*crickets*

omgben said,

Always the first to bring up the big Apple, aren't we? We get it, Microsoft doesn't get a fair shake on this Microsoft focused website.

Anyways, I wouldn't say Apple is REFUSING to divide their products up. The kept their information pretty straight forward. Sales for Macs, iPads, iPhones, and iPods. That's it. But at least they present numbers. Again, how many Windows RT devices have been sold?

Yeah...*crickets*

I am not writing it as a slam, but as a comparison. We have had a few people here write that the iPad Mini is selling like gangbusters, that it is trouncing the Surface in sales, but when it is time to put up actual numbers, Apple didn't, just like Microsoft didn't. But somehow, when you ask about what Apple's numbers are for the lower priced vs. higher priced models, you are labeled a hater, argument over. When Microsoft says they sold 60 million copies of Win8, we need an exact breakdown of sold to OEMs, sold through by OEMs, upgrades, full versions, how many were installed vs. uninstalls, how many copies of RT were sold - and if those exact numbers are not given, then just today we had people claiming that MS was lying, which is a federal, SEC offense that will put upper management at MS in jail.

Of course it was ok to talk about WinRT sales in the thread about Apple's numbers, because the handwave number of each of the iPads sold was, admittedly, higher than Surface, and it makes Apple look good. But mention Apple in the MS thread - how dare you!

Well they sold at least one because I'm using one right now... I cant imagine they sold too many though, you cant walk into PC World and just buy one. Plus that picture above upsets me! Red is my colour and I cant get hold of one of those touch cases here for love nor money... grrrrr