Microsoft: No porn apps allowed on Windows Phone 7

Microsoft revealed the new policies for the Windows Phone Marketplace earlier today.

As part of the policy (PDF) there's an interesting section headed Adult Related Content:

Content not allowed:
 
  • Sex / Nudity – Images that are suggestive or sexual (e.g. sexually provocative touching, bondage, masturbation) or provocative images that reveal nipples, genitals, buttocks, or pubic hair.
  • Any adult and/or borderline adult content (images or text).
  • Content that generally falls under the category of pornography.
  • Content that depicts or suggests prostitution.
  • Any content depicting sexual fetishes.
  • Any content of a sexual nature depicting children or animals.

We're not sure if this Adult Related Content policy existed for the Windows Mobile 6.x marketplace and we're seeking to clarify that with Microsoft officials. The updated policy makes it clear that no pornographic applications will be allowed on Windows Phone 7 devices. As Windows Phone 7 will only allow applications onto the device via the marketplace (unless you're a developer) then it's a safe bet that Microsoft is taking the same stance that Apple has for its iPhone App Store - no porn allowed.

"If you want porn, get an Android" - Steve Jobs.

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this is why i laugh at you iJunk users, and soon i'll laugh at you win phone users to... Google knows the interwebz, and they know its one of the quirks that helped it on its way.

if the same mentality works on a phone platform, is another question. but will have to wait and see.

but i think the mane problem is the fact that its the ONLY MARKET. not wanting it on their store is fare enough. (we don't complain at block busters for not having that content). but its the only store on both iPhone and windows Phone... at least on android we can add an app from another store. (the same that you would go to another video store that has the content you wish to buy).

Windows made it easier for millions to access pr0n. That's the reality. Had it not been Windows that was the first to affordability for the mass market we would all still be loading it on a Mac or the XXX Hi-Res animations of the Apple II, OS/2 and DOS era. Google realized that making a restriction on content would make people rush to work around it. Since they didn't make a decree as to what you can and cannot view on the device you paid for people don't seem so bent on making a community based on working around specific content restrictions for their mobile OS. It'll be nice when big companies stop making that the rule because we all know as geeks it just makes people want to jailbreak their devices and find the workaround. There's no compelling need or real jailbreaking of an Android OS enabled device. Yes, Android has an active ROM hacking community and Google isn't publicly going after those guys either as they're probably learning from it. Much like the Google employee that helped Scroogle.org with their scraper that used the ie6 loving Google toolbar search box. Now Google offers ssl connections...just like scroogle tho it still tracks your searches. Point being is that Google (although labeled evil by many because it's a multi-billion dollar company) is by far sticking to it's original mission statement the best it can by not litigating every attack on their products but helping it and then, like Microsoft, see's what's good about it and incorporates it into their products. I'm not totally off base I don't think.

apps are so limited... just visit te website directly. i can play farmville on my current phone by visiting drectly. the facebook app doesn't allow such things. with the advancements in phones today, one can afford to wait about 10 seconds for website to load rather than use an app that is featureless. i say drop apps all together and go full browser just like your laptop. all above said websites work perfectly on my phone.

huh. porn on the mobile phone. well let see ... make the phone vibrates, long, thin, lots of different sizes of ports and openings, and .... oh they do ???!!!??? well halle-freaking-lujah!

There is a thing called the internet, that has everything, and you really don't need an 'app' for it...

The whole 'we need apps' thing is just getting insane, especially when people are expecting to have apps to replace what the internet already provides.

WP7 will have Silverlight and Flash browser support (if not at first), so you can go anywhere and see whatever smut you want without a freaking apps.

(If MS did allow 'porn' apps, parents would be freaking POed and it would be a major news story.)

Pornographic content on a smartphone? I never understood the fuzz as those images/videos are way to small to enjoy them.

This is a very simple issue. If the market wants it, it will come. It has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING but the amount of MONEY that is at stake. Period.

this is a disgrace.

who can take a female
film her with a camera
throw in some leather and a slutty outfit or two
oh the porn-o-man can
cause he films all the things that make the world go round...

something something windows phone app.

It was pretty obvious this would be the case when it was made apparent apps would be obtained via their app store. MS obviously wasn't going to sell porn for image reasons.

man oh man see no big deal about this. People who need porn in their phone so they can 'instantly access' any time is real sick. You would not masturbate on the bus would ya?

Holy crap, what is wrong with you people. Instead of reporting about the new policies for app developers you instead highlight a porn policy that has already been in place for a long time.

Its amazing that so many blogs post such crap. Nerds really need to get out and start meeting some females, its starting to become an epidemic. Seriously, you guys are an embarrassment.

Why is so much hue and cry about porn. Its not affecting anybody. People are mature and they know what is good and bad for them. We don't need some stupid corporation pushing their so called ethical agenda to users. Are people using smart phone dumb enough to not know what is good or bad for them. Let people decide what they want. As long as it is not affecting anyone in any negative way then let it happen. By the way, why so much fuss about porn. It is one of the most natural thing every grown person does. I don't see anything wrongful with porn as long as it is of good taste.

Well, see, no.

1) Sex is the "most natural thing", not porn. WP7 will not be preventing anyone from having sex.

2) This isn't a matter of pushing an ethical agenda. That's just something people with zero understanding of what motivates policy would say.

3) Nobody's crying about the porn except the people like yourself, who feel insulted by this policy. All MS did was say "Here's the policy." That isn't crying. That isn't preaching. It's just publishing. The only crying was the outcry, to which your post is contributing. If you're going to ask about why there is so much crying about porn, ask yourself.

4) Porn will still be fully accessible on WP7 devices, just like it is on computers. You'll be able to watch it on streaming sites, download it from sites, and maybe even eventually torrent it (if a torrent app gets approved) some day, just like on a computer. The only thing this restricts is porn SOFTWARE--

--and last I checked, people who install porn software on computers are the DUMBEST tards on the planet, and I'm pretty sure EVERYONE agrees with that. Porn software is notorious for being absolutely riddled with malware and spyware. It's some of the most unsafe code ever written. Why the hell are so many people up in arms that such a dangerous code market is being locked out?

I say, banning porn apps is a security measure, and a good one.

-=SEDIN=- said,
if you want porn, go to your favorite porn site and bam you are set. why would you even want an app for that.
+1

I'm not really seeing the point in porn apps.

-=SEDIN=- said,
if you want porn, go to your favorite porn site and bam you are set. why would you even want an app for that.

Exactly! Why pay for a pron app? Who pays for pr0nz anyways? Besides you can just as well load some pics or porn vids on your device as well, no problem.

figgy said,
Good. Hopefully no one uses this restrictive platform and this dies soon.
Andriod FTW!

Yay, Android! Where the app market is almost impossible to navigate because of terrible sorting options and thousands of junky copycat apps! Yay, Android! Land of more than a thousand soundboards and less than a dozen RSS widgets! Yay, Android! For apps that may or may not break when you update them, because you were supposed to uninstall the old version first, even though nothing was done to prevent or gray out that Update button and avoid the mess in the first place.

Yay, Android! Yay, freedom!

Joshie said,

Yay, Android! Where the app market is almost impossible to navigate because of terrible sorting options and thousands of junky copycat apps! Yay, Android! Land of more than a thousand soundboards and less than a dozen RSS widgets! Yay, Android! For apps that may or may not break when you update them, because you were supposed to uninstall the old version first, even though nothing was done to prevent or gray out that Update button and avoid the mess in the first place.

Yay, Android! Yay, freedom!

+10
Android is a mess as far as app are concerned. And I've yet to use an Android phone who's UI and soft keyboard are as responsive as the iPhone. Not saying that Android isn't good. But it certainly isn't polished.

Hopefully with FroYo's performance gains and some of the more impressive new launchers (Helix, Pro, ADW), the interface will become that much more snappy, but the soft keyboard experience won't improve until multi-touch really gets cemented in Android culture.

It's a shame that the out-of-the-box Android experience is so unpolished, though, I agree. It's downright annoying that many of the really great improvements require custom flashing and/or rooting, making it no more enthusiast-friendly than Windows Mobile.

The way I see it, the way app distribution is set up, Microsoft has a choice of either banning porn apps, or explicitly approving them. They've left themselves with no way to simply proclaim innocence and ask, "porn apps? what porn apps?"

Presumably, this is to appease the more conservative morality-imposers in Microsoft's home country. Remember why the .xxx domains were sunk, and who was behind that (no pun intended)?

Home country? You don't think MS units in many other countries would also have enforced the same policy if it was up to them? I certainly can't see MS Australia wanting to be acknowledged as a distributor of pornographic material.

Stetson said,
Oh wow Apple has done it again. They're so restrictive and Steve Jobs is a tool.

Oh, wait. Nevermind.

+1
The Microsoft fanboys have nothing to say now.

I don't think the 'MS fanboys' were necessarily getting too riled up about an anti pornography policy, rather the fact Apple has been so inconsistent in its definition of pornography not to mention other Apps in general. I think anyone with any common sense has concluded its fair game for Apple to not want to personally sell porn on their own store, but they could

1) better define and evaluate what content is allowed.
2) possibly open the phone up to other methods to install apps so Apple doent have to be the ones selling it.

Certainly its bigger news when an existing app in the store gets suddenly removed as opposed to a new app feating porn getting banned from day one.

Sevan said,
Why would anyone use a porn app anyway? Never understood the need for those kinds of apps.

apparently the % of degenerate kids that want to jerk off while on their cell phones is high lol

Sevan said,
Why would anyone use a porn app anyway? Never understood the need for those kinds of apps.

What if you're on the bus and you get "the urge?" Porn has to be mobile!

thatguyandrew1992 said,

What if you're on the bus and you get "the urge?" Porn has to be mobile!

Yeah because looking at something that exasperates the situation will surely end well. Further, if you need to look at porn so damn bad that you have to carry it around with you then perhaps you have an addiction to pornography.

Solid Knight said,

Yeah because looking at something that exasperates the situation will surely end well. Further, if you need to look at porn so damn bad that you have to carry it around with you then perhaps you have an addiction to pornography.

+1

thatguyandrew1992 said,

What if you're on the bus and you get "the urge?" Porn has to be mobile!

And people wonder why I dont ride the bus.

thatguyandrew1992 said,

What if you're on the bus and you get "the urge?" Porn has to be mobile!

You still don't need a pr0n app for that. I bet you, and others, have quite the number of porn vids on your PC right now. Just load those up on your phone and don't worry about it. OR you can just as well use the browser to find porn. Again, why the hell do you need a porn "app"? Who in their right mind even pays for porn anymore?

Solid Knight said,

Yeah because looking at something that exasperates the situation will surely end well.

A happy ending?

Solid Knight said,

Yeah because looking at something that exasperates the situation will surely end well. Further, if you need to look at porn so damn bad that you have to carry it around with you then perhaps you have an addiction to pornography.

1) you seem to be a bit naive to the concept of having a crafty w.ank (be it in the bogs at work, on the bus/train - whatever floats yer boat) - loosen up man!
2) what's wrong with having a porn addiction anywayz?


thatguyandrew1992 said,

What if you're on the bus and you get "the urge?" Porn has to be mobile!

Public transportation is called "public" for a reason. No one needs to be subjected to public indecency.

Where are they? Complaining about this policy too I presume. Besides a lot more of the criticism of the Apple App Store has stemmed from it at times being inconsistent in how it enacts its policies, not the fact it has an anti porn policy to begin with.

Cases such as the 5000 or so apps that got pulled at the start of the year for inappropriate material that raised the question as to why they were ok one day and not the next? That's where I think most of the concern is, not the fact Apple dislikes porn on their store.

Mazhar said,
Good decision by Microsoft. It will be banned from Internet someday.

Right. Hate to let you know that will never, ever, happen.

Do you know how much revenue is brought in from pornography? You would be killing a rather large industry.

Mazhar said,
Good decision by Microsoft. It will be banned from Internet someday.

Porn makes up most of the internet, so have fun taking it all down.

Mazhar said,
Good decision by Microsoft. It will be banned from Internet someday.

You are one of the people who don't like something so you must forbid everyone from using it eh?

you wanna run the world depending on your views? keep dreaming.

There's definitely gonna be the type of person who'll be offended by ANY restrictions whatsoever ("b-b-b-but open and free is always better!!!"), but I'm grateful for restrictions like these. Of all the different kinds of apps that pollute the Android market and make it a pain to find games that are actually worth downloading, "hot babes" apps and HOLY-GOD-NOT-ANOTHER-SLIDE-PUZZLE-GAME apps are my two biggest peeves.

Tho' there are plenty of things Android's app market can be criticized for beyond that: over-abundance of block-clearing games (those are NOT the only puzzles in the world, developertards), and the complete LACK of the ability to sort by rating.

/once there's flash on WP7 you can just get your porn on the web like always

Tarrant64 said,
Pron has been known to drive technology forward, don't know why you'd just sit back and let it go by.

Tell that to Apple. They've flat-out rejected Flash under any circumstance, despite it being the lifeblood of porn. Still made a successful platform. Porn's might probably doesn't extend to handhelds.

/probably because your hands will usually be occupied elsewhere

primexx said,
they could have gotten a lot of people that are against apple's ban.

You do realize that no one actually sold their iPhone just so they could watch porn on Android. Well no sane person at least...

lordcanti86 said,
I'm still trying to figure out why one would need to have porn on a mobile device

I'm still trying to figure out why one wouldn't need to have porn on a mobile device.

lordcanti86 said,
I'm still trying to figure out why one would need to have porn on a mobile device

Less chance of getting a virus/malware on a phone compared to a computer? Less chance of getting caught by parents/boss?

andrewbares said,

Less chance of getting a virus/malware on a phone compared to a computer? Less chance of getting caught by parents/boss?

So just sync up your phone with any pr0n vids you have and call it a day? This isn't about no pr0n this is about no pr0n "apps". There's a difference, and I'd at least think everyone around here could pick up on it. Who the hell pays for pr0n anyways?

To be honest I don't know why you would even want to view porn on a phone, screen is much too small and if you really are going to sit there, phone in hand, and jack it well then what a sad person you are.

MrEggsalad said,
To be honest I don't know why you would even want to view porn on a phone, screen is much too small and if you really are going to sit there, phone in hand, and jack it well then what a sad person you are.

It's a rainy day, you have no Internet Connection, your girlfriend is far away from home, and you'll still care if I'm going to sit there, phone in hand, and jack it well after what has happened. Don't Fck me.

Why is the screen much too small? What makes a magazines size ok, what makes a monitor ok or a large screen TV fitting?

Hah, the size of the screen is pretty much irrelevant. If it's good enough for other forms of movies then it's just as adequate for porn. Hell the form factor probably suits pornographic films more than it does trying to use a web browser with non mobile optimised web sites.

BOOYAH said,
**** does that mean i cant use the webcam to shave my pubics and buttockss

No. You can use the built in camera for whatever you want, and also put whatever pictures you want on the device. You just can't get porn apps. Hell, you can even access porn through the browser.

Gotta say I do think it is a bit humorous how Steve Ballmer at Digital 8 made some jokes about Apples closed App Store and how if they released things for the iPhone it would probably be rejected.

And yet with Windows Phone 7, you need to pay to develop for it, you can only release through their store, you cant release pornographic content. It seems just as closed so far although we don't know if they will reject other apps for using Private API's but I bet they will.

<- Buying an Android phone asap and throwing my iPhone on ebay first chance I get

Vice said,
Gotta say I do think it is a bit humorous how Steve Ballmer at Digital 8 made some jokes about Apples closed App Store and how if they released things for the iPhone it would probably be rejected.

And yet with Windows Phone 7, you need to pay to develop for it, you can only release through their store, you cant release pornographic content. It seems just as closed so far although we don't know if they will reject other apps for using Private API's but I bet they will.

<- Buying an Android phone asap and throwing my iPhone on ebay first chance I get

You have to pay to develop for any marketplace (Apple, Microsoft, Google). It's only a matter of time before Google starts filtering content too. Just wait.

I don't understand why people are always so up in arms about this. Is it really THAT big of a deal, or is it just the nerd community making it a big deal?

Ayepecks said,
I don't understand why people are always so up in arms about this. Is it really THAT big of a deal, or is it just the nerd community making it a big deal?

Honestly though, is there a reason you need it on a phone device?

Frylock86 said,
Honestly though, is there a reason you need it on a phone device?
It's more about principles than "need". Why shouldn't it be available, if consent dialogs can be made.

Frylock86 said,

Honestly though, is there a reason you need it on a phone device?

Not really. Unless you wanted automatic backgrounds of hot babes in high heels which maybe a fetish or "borderline adult content". Even then, it isn't that big of a deal since one can obtain their own images.

Ayepecks said,
I don't understand why people are always so up in arms about this. Is it really THAT big of a deal, or is it just the nerd community making it a big deal?

Yup, you can always find good site as pornhub on the go, although they are all with fees.

Jose_49 said,

Yup, you can always find good site as pornhub on the go, although they are all with fees.

Fees since when? i use that site on my icrap all the time and i don't get charged for ****, except for the expense to clean my socks!

Frylock86 said,

Honestly though, is there a reason you need it on a phone device?

I think that if i buy a device and am in the legal age i should be able to watch whatever i want, especially if that phone has HD qualities.
Windows 7 mobile is now off the list:)

Ayepecks said,
I don't understand why people are always so up in arms about this. Is it really THAT big of a deal, or is it just the nerd community making it a big deal?

Indeed. They are not blocking pr0n on the phone, just dedicated "pr0n apps".
If I want porn om my phone, there are a million websites I can look at, at least on an Android 2.2.

Gargamel1984 said,

I think that if i buy a device and am in the legal age i should be able to watch whatever i want, especially if that phone has HD qualities.
Windows 7 mobile is now off the list:)

You can, like any other device, you just won't be able to pay for an app which does it (I really don't see the point in a porn app, but whatever tickles your fancy)

Ayepecks said,
I don't understand why people are always so up in arms about this. Is it really THAT big of a deal, or is it just the nerd community making it a big deal?

It's not just the nerd community. It's about wanting to do with your phone what you want. I've paid good money for my phone, so I want to be able to decide for myself which applications I install. And if I want to install strippoker, that's my business. Even if I want to install an application with kiddy p0rn, that's my business. It's not up to Microsoft to tell me that I am not allowed to do so, we have law enforcement for that. That said, of course must such an application not be made available through the app-store, as it is illegal in most countries. However, legal content should be made available without restrictions. Because if you start restricting apps, where do you stop? P0rn? OK. That might be alright for a lot of people. Cartoons that depicts Mohammed in a way that some Muslims find objective? Content about neo Nazis? Content about the evolution theory? Or content about creationism? Content that makes fun of the phone makers company? That is starting to sound like censorship. If you start, you are on the yellow brick road to a world where freedom of speech is no more.

If you confuse freedom of speech with the desire to buy whatever you want from whoever you want, you've already walked yourself a fair way down the road where freedom of speech is no more because you no longer know what freedom of speech is.

feuniks said,

It's not just the nerd community. It's about wanting to do with your phone what you want. I've paid good money for my phone, so I want to be able to decide for myself which applications I install. And if I want to install strippoker, that's my business. Even if I want to install an application with kiddy p0rn, that's my business. It's not up to Microsoft to tell me that I am not allowed to do so, we have law enforcement for that. That said, of course must such an application not be made available through the app-store, as it is illegal in most countries. However, legal content should be made available without restrictions. Because if you start restricting apps, where do you stop? P0rn? OK. That might be alright for a lot of people. Cartoons that depicts Mohammed in a way that some Muslims find objective? Content about neo Nazis? Content about the evolution theory? Or content about creationism? Content that makes fun of the phone makers company? That is starting to sound like censorship. If you start, you are on the yellow brick road to a world where freedom of speech is no more.


No, it's not up to Microsoft to determine what you are and aren't allowed to do, but it's up to them to determine what is and isn't allowed on the app marketplace. To say that they're going to restrict freedom of speech simply because they don't want porn being sold on their marketplace is silly, IMO. Microsoft isn't going to sell porn any more than Walmart or Target is. And it's their choice.

I'm really failing to see any compelling arguments (IMO) thus far for the allowance of porn apps on any cell phone.

Kirkburn said,
It's more about principles than "need". Why shouldn't it be available, if consent dialogs can be made.

Microsoft is putting their name all over their "app store". If I had my name all over something I wouldn't want content that people would find objectionable either. As if Microsoft isn't already having a brand name problem...

Ayepecks said,

No, it's not up to Microsoft to determine what you are and aren't allowed to do, but it's up to them to determine what is and isn't allowed on the app marketplace. To say that they're going to restrict freedom of speech simply because they don't want porn being sold on their marketplace is silly, IMO. Microsoft isn't going to sell porn any more than Walmart or Target is. And it's their choice.

I'm really failing to see any compelling arguments (IMO) thus far for the allowance of porn apps on any cell phone.

Well said. Besides, there really isn't much of a market for it. How many pronographic Windows apps are really raking in the dough?

Kirkburn said,
It's more about principles than "need". Why shouldn't it be available, if consent dialogs can be made.

I agree, they can make it so you have to opt in to see adult material. When you buy your phone you're asked if you want to see adult content and if you say yes then they ask for iD if you don't look old enough.

Adult content isn't needed but the freedom to have it is nice, even if you're not going to use it. I think MS will still be more open than Apple when it comes to Apps. They're just trying to save their ass.