Microsoft Office 2010 public beta available

Microsoft has made the Office 2010 beta available publicly today.

Earlier this week Microsoft released the beta to MSDN and TechNet customers. Neowin has taken a look at the top features of Office 2010. Improvements include social networking intergration into Outlook 2010, smart pasting options and of course Office Web Applications to allow you to read, edit and save documents in the browser.

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Not liking the new icons. The new logo is nice but I think keeping the four colours from the Windows logo would make sense.

I can't beleive Smart Art isn't in Publisher in this version though - big let down.

Outlook sure is looking good with some useful new stuff!

On the download site for the public beta Microsoft advice is to download and install the 32-bit version, even if your system is 64-bit. Why would they do that, and why do they even make a x64 version at all if the above is their advice?

Duncank said,
On the download site for the public beta Microsoft advice is to download and install the 32-bit version, even if your system is 64-bit. Why would they do that, and why do they even make a x64 version at all if the above is their advice?


Add-in/plug-in issues (especially third-party plug-ins).

Just about *every* third-party plug-in is 32-bit only for a very simple reason - Office 2007 only shipped in 32-bit form. The only plug-in I use with Office 2010 is the Connector (which is also 64-bit); however, if I used other plug-ins or add-ins, I likely would have also gone 32-bit.

Just installed 32-bit version of Office 2010 outlook works fine now with Itunes. Looks like its a problem with the x64 version. but at least its working now

Outlook 2010 x64 screws up when syncing with Itunes. Outlook 2007 x64 had no problems at all. looks like i'm uninstalling and going back to Office 2007.

Just curious, but has anyone installed this beta side-by-side with Office 2007? I'm going to install it on a virtual machine, but just wondering if anyone's run into issues with Office 2007 after 2010 is installed.

I'm curious about this as well. DonC mentioned that he did this above, but I'm curious if anyone has experienced any issues in doing this.

dbam987 said,
Just curious, but has anyone installed this beta side-by-side with Office 2007?.

I needed to keep Outlook 2007 because we use Scalix as our email server and that doesn't work in 2010 (Booooo Scalix). I had to upgrade to 2010 but I could then re-install Outlook 2007 over the top.
So it seems I can mix them but not have them side-by-side.

You could install Office 2007 in XP mode if you use Windows 7 if you wanted both available at the same time

Actually I've just seen that during the installation process you can choose to keep previous versions so that makes it a bit easier

Just installed, and when try to open a word file from internet (specifically from my university "intranet") , i got the follow message: "word could not create the work file - check the temp environment variable"
With Office 2007 no probs.

Just got it downloaded, opened a file that took 60-90 seconds to open in Excel 2007 (there was a huge delay right at the end of processing for some reason, maybe to display all the data?) - it opened in about 8 - 10 seconds in Excel 2010.

I will post more as I use it (I'm a heavy Office user at work), but so far it looks like MS has held true to the WIN7 model of performance first.

Yikes... so far having some issues with Outlook... lot's of crashes due to DLL's missing... but, I have HUGE PST's with about half a gig of email coming in through Exchange as well, and this was an upgrade from Office 2003 to 2007... so we'll see if it improves.

//Ok, all better... I was getting those because I told it not to uninstall Outlook 2007... went back and uninstalled that and it works fine now =)

DonC said,
Mine co-exists with Office 2007 just fine (and I have PST files > 0.5GB also).

Oh, that's good to know. I think I'll do a side by side install as well if it's not a problem for anyone else.

mail said,
A bloody java applet ... just to download a file ...

The full path is given in the page source. Just copy that and use it, no applet required.

Arkose said,
The full path is given in the page source. Just copy that and use it, no applet required.

Thanks for the tip Arkose! I agree with the sentiment that using a java applet to download the file is just silly.

mail said,
A bloody java applet ... just to download a file ...

IE closes the tab because of this for me - I had to download it in Chrome - oh the irony

wotsit said,
IE closes the tab because of this for me - I had to download it in Chrome - oh the irony :)


Blame Akamai, not Microsoft. (Akamai is the service provider in North America at least.)
Unlike Microsoft's FTM, Akamai's DLM is Java-based.

I actually really dislike the new icons.
I tink they look too crowded and old fashioned. I much preferred 2007 icons, they could have just made the colours a bit deeper.
I think they did it to make the taskbar colour-tracking in Windows 7 look a bit better.
The small icons are an improvement though, although using the letter is cheating a bit IMHO but I guess that's what happens when you have so many products all under the Office umbrella

Yeah, the new icons look weird. They now have a paper-flat straight on perspective as opposed to the slight tilt in 2007's icons.

acido00 said,
I cannot not see the download button... any ideas?

So then you CAN see it? ;-)

Like GetUsed2 It said, I would try another browser. That's likely the problem.

signalpirate said,
so i just downloaded it.. installed... but where is my updated communicator???
the site http://www.microsoft.com/office/2010/en/default.aspx says that it is included... what gives?


Simply add a WLM or Hotmail account via Account Settings in Outlook; it will fetch and offer to install it. (If upgrading from a previous version of Outlook that Included a Hotmail or WLM account, it will auto-install the new Connector.)

no glitches so far, i've been using this one for a month now. excel TP had a few rendering problems with conditional formatting, but it's fine now.

Ci7 said,
upgrade to beta? :P same mindset here hehe


That's exactly the point.

If you've had issues with earlier versions of Office (especially 2003 and 2007) that weren't related to add-ins or plug-ins, upgrading to, of all things, the 2010 beta may well make sense!

One issue that drove me nucking futz with 2007 (and which even SP2 didn't fix) was performance issue with long documents (and especially converting long documents to PDF, let alone ODF). Word 2010 on the other hand (especially in x64) zips through those same documents (and also smokes *converting* those same documents, and to any format). The one thing I kept OpenOffice (or some other free PDF conversion utility) around for was handling PDF conversion issues; now I no longer have to.

What would it do? There are some Gadgets for Outlook... That's the only application I can think of that would benefit from a Gadget... But I can't think of everything. lol

SHoTTa35 said,
Sweet, i downloaded this thing at about 3.77MB/s !!!! That's some sweet server MS got going on over there!

Im supprised servers havnt crashed. Maybe they learned from the Windows 7 Beta/RC hah

SHoTTa35 said,
Sweet, i downloaded this thing at about 3.77MB/s !!!! That's some sweet server MS got going on over there!

Wow, that's fast. I don't have that sort of speed at all, but it is definitely faster than Windows 7 was... They must have upgraded some things...

What? Really, well i'll just have to use my key to activate the newer build then. I figured they'd at least have the newest version! I'll be installing when i go home!

AnakinDev said,
beta public is Build 14.0.4536.1000

I say again. Public beta is build 14.0.4514.1004, installs without the key and activates using the MAK key MS provided you.

The latest beta, which is distributed on a few channels is build 14.0.4536.1000 and asks you to provide a key before installing it. You can't otherwise. The MAK key doesn't work with this. I already tried this. The keys I got through Technical Preview program work, though. They were available on connect.microsoft.com until a week ago. They maybe still are.

kukubau said,
There is a newer build circulating the net.

Build 14.0.4536.1000

The public beta is build 14.0.4514.1004

The installer is marked 14.0.4514.1004 but the apps are 14.0.4536.1000 when installed.

oh my godness... they changed the format yet again :S

guess it will look like .docy instead of .docx

lolz

Ci7 said,
oh my godness... they changed the format yet again :S

guess it will look like .docy instead of .docx

lolz

That means people have to do what they don't do anymore. Not be so lazy and get use to the new UI.

Scutley said,


That means people have to do what they don't do anymore. Not be so lazy and get use to the new UI.

pretty sure he was refering to the extention....

Scutley said,
That means people have to do what they don't do anymore. Not be so lazy and get use to the new UI.

i am talking about file extension not the UI(user interface)

i have adapted to O2007 long time ago

and i have been testing O2010 since the Technical preview.

the thing is document format backward compitablity broken by default/not guaranteed

not big deal ,but i wished that they preserved .docx

Ci7 said,
oh my godness... they changed the format yet again :S

guess it will look like .docy instead of .docx

lolz


It also will still export (and import) old format files (for export, use Save As (as opposed to Save; the same method Office 2000 and later recommended); Word Perfect formats are also supported.

Installed it last week, the FIRST thing you will want to do is run msconfig and DISABLE
that %$*@($ stupid "send a smile" BS that gets thrown into the taskbar.

naap51stang said,
Installed it last week, the FIRST thing you will want to do is run msconfig and DISABLE
that %$*@($ stupid "send a smile" BS that gets thrown into the taskbar.

...or just delete it out of the startup folder in the start menu......or ignore it

My first impression is very good, after opening Word and Outlook 2010. I love the new UI, much better organized than in 2007.

support for xp sp3 and 2003 r2? but it won't install on 2003 standard or xp64? reasons for this artificial limitation on a postcard please........

marc2003 said,
support for xp sp3 and 2003 r2? but it won't install on 2003 standard or xp64? reasons for this artificial limitation on a postcard please........

Microsoft has added/backported features to XP and 2003 since then, plus they expect everyone to have upgraded to 7 by now :P

XP 64 has always gotten screwed. What did you expect?

I emailed them and they replied they might support XP 64 at RTM if enough people ask for it so ASK FOR IT ON THEIR BLOG.

omnicoder said,
Microsoft has added/backported features to XP and 2003 since then, plus they expect everyone to have upgraded to 7 by now :P

XP 64 has always gotten screwed. What did you expect?


In the meanwhile, they ask that XP64 owners install the 32-bit version instead.

Frustrating, I know; however, remember, XP64 is the first 64-bit *desktop* OS from Microsoft, and sort of an UD (Ugly Duckling) of one at that (Vista x64, let alone 7 x64, has both better driver support and better *application* support).

Ok guys, I had to go through some hoops to download this.
Clicked the link in chrome, logged in to my Live account. It ended up doing an endless spin.
Proceeded further in IE, until the actual download page. Recorded my key, then clicked download.
Copied the address of the page that pops up after clicking download and chrome began downloading.

omnicoder said,
Ok guys, I had to go through some hoops to download this.
Clicked the link in chrome, logged in to my Live account. It ended up doing an endless spin.
Proceeded further in IE, until the actual download page. Recorded my key, then clicked download.
Copied the address of the page that pops up after clicking download and chrome began downloading.

I don't understand why you'd go to all the trouble to download it using Chrome given how poor Chrome's download mechanic is... Glad you got it working though. I just hope Chrome doesn't crap out at 600 MB's...

Everyone: the KEYS ARE SHARED, everyone gets the same ones out of a set of X keys.

If you can't get the DL working: try starting it with IE.

Ambroos said,
Everyone: the KEYS ARE SHARED, everyone gets the same ones out of a set of X keys.

If you can't get the DL working: try starting it with IE.


No i got a key starting with Y. And it works with IE like a charm google chrome sucks!!!

TcKrockZ said,

No i got a key starting with Y. And it works with IE like a charm google chrome sucks!!!

I have a lot of problems with Chrome and downloads... That's one of the reasons I just use it for simple browsing.

I still prefer Firefox for many other reasons though.

Would love to test Office 2010 beta, but need to know if it plays well with MobileMe calendar and contacts sync. Anyone using Office 2010 with MobileMe?

Phil E. said,
Would love to test Office 2010 beta, but need to know if it plays well with MobileMe calendar and contacts sync. Anyone using Office 2010 with MobileMe?

I just get an error whenever I try to get MobileMe to sync. "Either there is no default mail client or the current mail client cannot fulfill the messaging request. Please run Microsoft Outlook and set it as the default mail client."

I did that, but still get an error. I found a microsoft KB article on the issue (although I think it is for Outlook 2007) and going to try and resolve it using those steps. Hopefully can get it to work, but if not oh well :).

The problem has to do with the 64-bit version. Supposedly the 32-bit version works fine. I'm downloading it now to check it out.

Click on the link provided at the top of the page then follow the link. You will have to fill out a register to get the Beta.

dimithrak said,
care to explain? i have my definition of that, but i might get banned for letting you know..

I think he was making a funny since you typed that in all caps (Yelling as it's seen on the internet)... I'm not sure what response to such a harmless joke would spur a ban...

If anyone has used Outlook 2010, with Hotmail (using Outlook Connector)... are you seeing folders called "News Feed xx" show up?

Chsoriano said,
If anyone has used Outlook 2010, with Hotmail (using Outlook Connector)... are you seeing folders called "News Feed xx" show up?


yes... i want to know how to get rid of this as well... annoying to erase them on my own every day or two...

If you are having a problem with any part of the beta, please send a message to MS with the name of the application, and the problem you are having. Remember this is a beta, so help make it better by letting MS know what is wrong.

Go to "account settings" and then "RSS FEEDS", delete/remove whatever feeds in there. -->close, restart Outlook. You may have to do this in all your other pc's which have the same email account.

Chsoriano said,
If anyone has used Outlook 2010, with Hotmail (using Outlook Connector)... are you seeing folders called "News Feed xx" show up?

Disable the social connector plugin.

yodha said,
Go to "account settings" and then "RSS FEEDS", delete/remove whatever feeds in there. -->close, restart Outlook. You may have to do this in all your other pc's which have the same email account.

I don't have any feeds listed there.

Pam14160 said,
If you are having a problem with any part of the beta, please send a message to MS with the name of the application, and the problem you are having. Remember this is a beta, so help make it better by letting MS know what is wrong.

Yeah I will