Microsoft: Over 2 million downloads for Windows 8.1 so far

Microsoft marketing head Tami Reller speaks this week at IDF.

Microsoft launched the preview version of Windows 8.1 in June, and earlier this week it allowed TechNet and MSDN subscribers to access the RTM build of the Windows 8 update. This week, during a keynote address at the Intel Developer Forum, Microsoft's marketing head Tami Reller told the crowd there had been over 2 million downloads of Windows 8.1 so far.

The transcript of the keynote speech doesn't show that Reller offered any more info on that statistic. so we don't know if the 2 million number is just for the preview version or if Microsoft is also counting the RTM bits it offered to developers this week. We have emailed Microsoft for more information. Of course, we are sure those download numbers don't include any that come from the leaked preview or RTM Windows 8.1 versions that have made their way online.

One interesting Windows 8.1 statistic comes from the Steam hardware survey page. Valve allows customers who download the Steam client a way to voluntarily upload their hardware and software data for the survey. The month of August shows that Windows 8.1 was installed on 0.45 percent of PCs with Steam. That's a small number, but it's still higher on the survey list than all of the Linux-based operating systems that support Steam.

Update: Microsoft has now told Neowin that the 2 million number mentioned by Reller includes both the Windows 8.1 preview and the number of downloads of the MSDN-TechNet RTM builds.

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I don't think they are counting the preview release. TechNet and MSDN has a huge install base (I am an MSDN subscriber). And whenever MS comes out with a new or updated Software, the 1st 24 hours is a nightmare to get anything downloaded at decent speed, as the servers are being pounded by requests. Over the years they worked on the scalability of these servers, but that is testament to how large the developers crowd is.

For most people windows 8 gui sucks, so it will for 8.1

So don't suspect high numbers.

Windows 9 is going to bring much back from the windows 7 table

Dutchman01 said,
For most people windows 8 gui sucks, so it will for 8.1

So don't suspect high numbers.

Windows 9 is going to bring much back from the windows 7 table

I guess we can disregard Windows 7's high numbers then? Selective reasoning doesn't work here.

Regardless: "AllThingsD claims that Joe Belfiore, who previously was in charge of Windows Phone development, will now lead a team that will focus on phones, tablets and PCs. The apparent idea is to show there will be little difference between the version of Windows that runs on a small smartphone and the version of the OS that runs on a tablet, notebook or desktop."

From: http://www.neowin.net/news/rep...aders-revealed-at-microsoft

Why do people keep believing Windows 9 will be more like 7? Was Windows 7 more like XP? Did they get rid of Aero or UAC? No, they took their time tweaked and refined it and now everyone loves it. Windows 9 will be the same path, Windows 8.1 will be further refined to give us a product that will make the most ardent Modern UI basher jump on board, just as those who hated Vista jumped to Win 7.

Sadelwo said,
Why do people keep believing Windows 9 will be more like 7?

Dont think that is the point. MS has a long history of every other OS not being received well.

Windows 8.1 GUI does not suck in any way. Windows 8 was lacking in UI continuity and smoothness. These issues have been addressed. Booting to the desktop is easy to set up, along with the Start button opening the All Apps screen. This looks like a start menu on steroids, especially when using the desktop wallpaper on the Start screen. It's very usable and is going to be well received by consumers. It's also very fast. Using an old Seagate 80-GB 7200-10 drive Windows 8.1 Pro RTM boots in 30 seconds. The same 8.1 install cloned onto a 64-GB SSD boots in less than 15 seconds. On the same hardware Windows 7 Pro SP1 boots in 30 seconds on a 64-GB SSD. I suspect our customers, currently buying about 50/50 Windows 7/8 will begin purchasing systems 100% Windows 8.1. At least we'll steer them that way. While some will continue to complain out of habit or ignorance, there is no reason to not move/upgrade to Windows 8.1.

techbeck said,

Dont think that is the point. MS has a long history of every other OS not being received well.


95 was well recieved,, 98 was well recieved so was 98se, me sucked 2k was solid xp was solid, that doesnt seem like every other os to me

DKAngel said,

95 was well recieved,, 98 was well recieved so was 98se, me sucked 2k was solid xp was solid, that doesnt seem like every other os to me

2k is a business OS and was only that. You had Win 2k and then XP or 9x for the users.

I heard nothing but problems/complaints about Win95, 98 was good, ME blew, XP was good, Vista blew, Win7 was good, now complaints and bad comments about Win8.

Sales numbers aside, Lots didnt like 95 and the changes from 3.1. Win8 appears to be doing well during the same time frame when Win7 was released, however there are a lot of complaints as well.

Dutchman01 said,
For most people windows 8 gui sucks, so it will for 8.1

So don't suspect high numbers.

Windows 9 is going to bring much back from the windows 7 table


W8 and W8.1 are very different. It may seems that the changes are subtle ones but they make a big difference in the usage experience.

Dot Matrix said,

The apparent idea is to show there will be little difference between the version of Windows that runs on a small smartphone and the version of the OS that runs on a desktop."

Really really bad idea.

I planned to buy a new windows 8 laptop soon. I think i might look at an apple laptop instead to be sure i'm ready for the future. Cause if the future as seen by microsoft is Metro on a desktop computer i wont be part of it.

techbeck said,

2k is a business OS and was only that. You had Win 2k and then XP or 9x for the users.

A lot of hardcore gamers back then were running 2k pro instead of 9x. Most power users were running 2k pro at home instead of 9x.

I know i was running 2k as soon as drivers were avalaible for all my hardware and did not look back at the crappy 9x.

LaP said,

A lot of hardcore gamers back then were running 2k pro instead of 9x. Most power users were running 2k pro at home instead of 9x

I never knew anyone using 2k for home. But different people, difference experiences

techbeck said,

I never knew anyone using 2k for home. But different people, difference experiences

There was a whole website dedicated to run 2k as a home system. It was called nt compatible i think. People were posting guide on how to make some games work on 2k. Neowin and Neobond did it too.

Here's a post by Neobond dating back to january 2001

I was bored so I wrote a new review to replace the dated one I was going to place on the site.

This review focuses on making Windows 2000 run as fast as Windows 98/ME enabling you to play 3D games on a quicker more stable system with no "hidden" stuff going on in the background while you try to get all your resources focused on the 'heat of the moment'

Is your system multiboot because you think Windows 2000 is a bloated pig? Well you're probably right, and we intend to help you gain some speed in your resource hungry system

Read my review here

Let me know if it helped =) here

It's the 6th post on this page : http://wayback.archive.org/web...3000/http://www.neowin.net/

[edit] Here's another cool link http://wayback.archive.org/web...mpatible.com/article1.shtml

ME was so bad many power users were ready to invest a lot of time to replace it by 2k at home until XP came out.

Edited by LaP, Sep 13 2013, 2:49pm :

LaP said,

There was a whole website dedicated to run 2k as a home system. It was called nt compatible i think. People were posting guide on how to make some games work on 2k. Neowin and Neobond did it too.

Ah, cool. The only ones I heard of that used it at home is people who had servers at home. I used it everyday in the office.

techbeck said,

Ah, cool. The only ones I heard of that used it at home is people who had servers at home. I used it everyday in the office.

It really depends on what you were doing and if you had problems with me (many like me had). I remember ME was BSODing everytime i wanted to play a game. It was almost impossible to play Baldur's Gate 2 without BSODing at least 1 time. All drivers were up to date and without any OC i thougt it was my system but after many check like memtest and such i realised everything was fine with my system. Then a friend of mine at school who was running 2k told me to give it a try. It required some work to make everything work (i remember i had some trouble making Hot Pursuit 3 works) but ultimately it was well worth it as it was much much much more stable than ME.

We can only hope that Microsoft has realized their huge miscalculation with Windows-8; but, then again, arrogance has a way of trumping good business decisions.

techbeck said,

I heard nothing but problems/complaints about Win95, 98 was good, ME blew, XP was good, Vista blew, Win7 was good, now complaints and bad comments about Win8.

Except that 98 was dung until SE made it somewhat usable.
And people weren't happy at all when XP came out....years later it was successful beyond most peoples wildest dreams.

Windows 7 is actually a rarity in that it was pretty much spot on at release but nearly every OS microsoft has ever made has needed a service pack (or 2) to get into stride.

Windows 8 is actually as solid as 7...literally the only real complaint is the look and the start button.

techbeck said,

I never knew anyone using 2k for home. But different people, difference experiences

I've switched from win 98 to win 2k almost as soon as it was available.
I was a bit tired of the random bsod, and once I tried win 2k, I couldn't bear win 98 anymore. The only thing I was missing, was the wallpapers, and silly themes.
Then there was XP, and I switched mainly because of the mainstream adoption, and that I liked the more refined icons. But otherwise win 2k took less disk space , and ram.

LaP said,

Really really bad idea.

I planned to buy a new windows 8 laptop soon. I think i might look at an apple laptop instead to be sure i'm ready for the future. Cause if the future as seen by microsoft is Metro on a desktop computer i wont be part of it.

Maybe this will convince you. Who needs the Start Menu when you can have this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6cNdhOKwi0

Dot Matrix said,

Maybe this will convince you. Who needs the Start Menu when you can have this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6cNdhOKwi0

I don't really care about the start menu. I was mostly refering to the non productive metro design. If the desktop goes away and i need to use adobe and autodesk apps with a metro UI then i'm out.

I did not see anyone doing anything really speciall that could not be done with any tablets or phones in the video. Cool video but did not prove me that Photoshop, Autocad, Blender, Maya and such could work better in a metro env.

Edited by LaP, Sep 14 2013, 12:23am :

LaP said,

I did not see anyone doing anything really speciall that could not be done with any tablets or phones in the video. Cool video but did not prove me that Photoshop, Autocad, Blender, Maya and such could work better in a metro env.

For something unprecedented , there's the "life invader" tablet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaY9lM1ouCY

LaP said,

I don't really care about the start menu. I was mostly refering to the non productive metro design. If the desktop goes away and i need to use adobe and autodesk apps with a metro UI then i'm out.

I did not see anyone doing anything really speciall that could not be done with any tablets or phones in the video. Cool video but did not prove me that Photoshop, Autocad, Blender, Maya and such could work better in a metro env.

Go back and watch again, as users use a combination of touch, motion, and 3D inputs. That'll how we'll be interacting with data before long. You're not going to have that level of interactivity with a desktop only UI. It just isn't built for it.

Photoshop and Autocad are best used with WACOM tablets to being with.

Dot Matrix said,

Photoshop and Autocad are best used with WACOM tablets to being with.

Perhaps better with, but not as a substitute to the traditional ways to interact (keyboard + mouse).

Dot Matrix said,

Go back and watch again, as users use a combination of touch, motion, and 3D inputs. That'll how we'll be interacting with data before long. You're not going to have that level of interactivity with a desktop only UI. It just isn't built for it.

Photoshop and Autocad are best used with WACOM tablets to being with.

You're not going to get that with desktop hardwares and inputs period. I've never said the desktop is a good UI for tablets, phones, touch screens in the form of a window or a mirror and anything crazy that might happen in the future.

I've said many times here that i think the desktop will eventually become a niche market. And i think anyone who say otherwise is totally delusional. The matter of the fact is the desktop ***** for everyday needs like getting your mail, checking the weather or surfing for web. I can even see the desktop eventually die in the home market. The tablet/phone/touch screen market will continue to evolve and grow and i totally agree that the desktop has nothing to do on a tablet and imo Microsoft would have been better to simply kill the desktop when it comes to tablets and keep it for traditional computers and laptops. I think trying to make one OS to rule them all is foolish and stupid.

This said i think that for now the desktop is a superior UI to professionally work and until Microsoft proves me otherwise then i would like to have the choice to have a full seamless desktop experience on my work computer at home. Windows 8 with start8 is okay but i hope MS don't plan to kill the desktop UI on pro computers anytime soon.

Geeze, and they didn't want to release it....

I can't wait until next month when I can get it. Goes to show Windows 8 isn't as hated as some people here make it seem.

Dot Matrix said,
Geeze, and they didn't want to release it....

I can't wait until next month when I can get it. Goes to show Windows 8 isn't as hated as some people here make it seem.

Whilst i agree that some do seem to hate windows 8 (not me, crumbs it`s an OS) personally i think the problem is more the fact people don`t really give two hoots about it. It certainly hasn`t created any buzz like windows 7 did and i`m sure Microsoft wanted this to be a must have!
I don`t see 8.1 having any major effect on the perception either as it really doesn`t do much different. Sure you can customize a few more things but it certainly isn`t going to make people wan`t to go grab a copy on GR...

Riggers said,

Whilst i agree that some do seem to hate windows 8 (not me, crumbs it`s an OS) personally i think the problem is more the fact people don`t really give two hoots about it. It certainly hasn`t created any buzz like windows 7 did and i`m sure Microsoft wanted this to be a must have!
I don`t see 8.1 having any major effect on the perception either as it really doesn`t do much different. Sure you can customize a few more things but it certainly isn`t going to make people wan`t to go grab a copy on GR...

It feels more like a service pack than a new OS ;-)

Goes to show how important releasing it on MSDN really was, although I would imagine majority will be from the preview release.

SK[ said,]Goes to show how important releasing it on MSDN really was, although I would imagine majority will be from the preview release.

And not forgetting TechNet subscribers too ;-)