Microsoft posts video showcasing the Delta Airlines and Surface 2 connection

Delta Airlines has adopted modern Microsoft technologies over the past few months, starting with the Nokia Lumia 820 phones for flight attendants and the Surface 2 tablets for pilots.

Microsoft's Surface team has now posted a video on YouTube which details Delta's plans of implementing new technologies and how Surface 2 tablets will prove beneficial for them in the long run. 

11,000 pilots across Boeing 757 and 767 fleets will be given electronic flight bags and the operation to have paperless cockpits is expected to complete by the end of 2014.

Source: Surface on YouTube

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I hope the Jeppesen Pro app comes to the app store, not just for delta pilots. Right now the only good flight app is Foreflight and it's only on the iPad.

The weight argument is just dumb. If you multiply a small number by a really big number you're going to get a much bigger number.

MrHumpty said,
The weight argument is just dumb. If you multiply a small number by a really big number you're going to get a much bigger number.

What? Sounds like you don't know how planes work.

siah1214 said,
What? Sounds like you don't know how planes work.
38 lbs per flight. That is the weight of a 4 yr old. Or 0.007% of the max takeoff weight. Or 0.01% of that max takeoff weight when taking out the empty plane itself. So you take that really tiny number, asign a fuel cost value to it... the multiply it by a really big number (like the total miles flown by delta in a year) and voila... you have a big scary/effective number.

Sounds like you don't know how multiplication and division works.

MrHumpty said,
38 lbs per flight. That is the weight of a 4 yr old. Or 0.007% of the max takeoff weight. Or 0.01% of that max takeoff weight when taking out the empty plane itself. So you take that really tiny number, asign a fuel cost value to it... the multiply it by a really big number (like the total miles flown by delta in a year) and voila... you have a big scary/effective number.

Sounds like you don't know how multiplication and division works.


I really don't see your point here at all. Yes there's an assigned value / lb that's now saved. Might not be the actual number but there is a savings.
Aircraft weight and balance is a part of my life, is it a part of yours?

It's great to see them using anything other than paper and saving money. But I believe their own staff was really pushing for iPads once they tested then.

Microsoft must have given them one hell of a discount. Works for both companies I guess.

stevan said,
It's great to see them using anything other than paper and saving money. But I believe their own staff was really pushing for iPads once they tested then.

Microsoft must have given them one hell of a discount. Works for both companies I guess.

I always listen to my staff when deciding on company wide major IT decisions.

Honestly, the Surface device is better for business than an iPad. Granted if we're talking about just app store availability the iPad wins. But when it comes to productivity combined with a maturing app cataloge the Surface 2 line is great. I'll be the first to admit the Surface RT was underpowered, but if everything we have heard is true the Surface 2 is handling nearly every hardware based problem known.

I like what they're doing here. Sucks you can't check FB mid-air but I like them using the Surface 2 for this task. I still think a Pro make more sense because it has the pen for highlighting and underlining, desktop side for flight apps not in Modern UI, and bigger SSD space. Granted it's expensive

Not uncommon. I've sold iPads to pilots for the sole purpose of being used in their line of work. They typically buy an Otterbox case with it, I guess for the protection but also attachable strap for carrying them around. They claimed to have some custom accessories for the job, but I'm not sure what the details were on that.

LightEco said,
Wonder how much that has to do with actual functionality differences vs just the allure of iPad.

No, they said they needed them. It's actually quite funny, since the few times I've seen pilots come into our store, they always seem to come in pairs, and usually want black and white for "his and hers", so to speak haha.

Only change I've seen as of late was the request for the iPad mini because they were easier to carry. No clue what the airlines are using though so I couldn't tell you anything in regards to that.

My original point remains. If the Surface can do everything that Delta needs it to do, what "need" is there for an iPad specifically?

Its like saying "I need a Dodge truck" when your company gives you a Ford truck to drive for work.

Wasn't it Delta who were going to roll out iPads to do the same jobs as these Surfaces - replace the inflight manuals?

I used Delta 2 weeks ago when I flew to Texas, the attendants on the ground who handled paperwork were carrying 7 inch tablets running stock Android. But they were covered in casing and such so I couldn't see what it was.

McKay said,
I used Delta 2 weeks ago when I flew to Texas, the attendants on the ground who handled paperwork were carrying 7 inch tablets running stock Android. But they were covered in casing and such so I couldn't see what it was.

It's going to take a bit of time for the transition to take place, it's a rollout over time etc.