Microsoft re-confirms no new Xbox at E3 or 'anytime soon'

There has been a lot of speculation that at E3 this year that we would see the next generation of the Xbox 360. Well, if you were hoping for that, we must let you down gently as Microsoft’s David Dennis has re-confirmed that 2012 is all about the Xbox 360 and that they will not be showcasing next-generation hardware at E3.

The quote was obtained directly from an email sent by David Dennis: “’For us, 2012 is all about Xbox 360,’ Microsoft's Dennis says in a statement explaining that there will be no talk/show of new Xbox at E3”, courtesy of Dina Bass. It does not get much clearer than that, which will most likely put a damper on many expectations for the upcoming tradeshow.

Little is known about the next generation of the Xbox platform; it is currently rumored that the console will drop support for disc based games and instead favor digital downloads. Some speculation has said that the platform will support Blu-Ray but these two rumors currently contradict each other.

In other next gen Xbox news, there ha also been new position posted on Microsoft’s job board that has been pulled but thanks to Google cache, you can take a look at it here. The job posting, via ubergizmo is posted below:

The ISS Console Multimedia Team, responsible for designing and developing the next generation console, is looking for a highly motivated and skilled audio developer. If you love gaming, game audio and music, then join us as an integral part of the team tasked to revolutionize audio for the next generation of Xbox.

The job posting does not provide much in terms of details about the next generation of the Xbox but does indicate that the team is still looking for talented individuals to help foster the creation of the upcoming console. 

Neowin will be attending E3 so make sure to check back for all the gaming news you can handle. 

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Milking money but fortunately for PC, XBOX360 is pretty dead. Just for 2011 59% of Game Sales belonged to PC and only 12% to XBOX360 as well as PS3.

techguy77 said,
Milking money but fortunately for PC, XBOX360 is pretty dead. Just for 2011 59% of Game Sales belonged to PC and only 12% to XBOX360 as well as PS3.

To say xbox 360 is dead is ludicrous , theres lots of games selling lots of copies and making crazy amounts of money. And all the big companies have big games in develeopment. I wish it was on its way out as the games really do look dated now , they look brilliant for the hardware they are running on but look crap next to the few proper Pc titles with great graphics.

as great as new hardware would be, my wallet as well as the backlog of games I have waiting to play are two reasons I can wait for a new xbox

360 is selling too well to come out with a new one. Sony hasn't made any money on PS3 yet so they'll be looking to keep it alive as long as possible to start making some money, while MS will also benefit from keeping the 360 alive as long as possible to make more money so as long as they don't see any intention from Sony of releasing, they'll probably not release either. New machines mean losses to them, they'll put it off as long as they can.

Good news for Slim owners I guess.

Anyways, this seem to pinpoint more to a hardware war. Either MS is waiting for hardware prices to go down so the next Xbox will make the Wii U bite the dust, or they are just squeezing out the remnants of the 360. (Maybe both)

Any possibility or so, I just hope the next 360 is packaged with powerful hardware (it matters not if it is around 400$) so it can last a good 5 years with great games as the 360 has done (Well.... almost 7 with the latter one ).

In case, the Wii U will see incredible sales. First of all, it will be the first of the next gen, and is far way superior than this one, and by the time the PS4 and the next xbox come, Nintendo will gladly drop down the prices and make the competence still fierce.

The good news is, since they have nothing to show (I assume that they're not far enough with the development to show anything, or even talk about it) that the final hardware specification will be truly next-gen.

Consoles must be bleeding-edge (does not imply the largest abouts of GFlops but the newest technologies and architectures) in order to stand the test of time (~6+ years).

Also, any talk about next-gen hardware might dampen the sales of the current xbox, something which nobody wants in the final stretch of this generation consoles.

Epic Games is pushing Microsoft and Sony to use bleeding-edge hardware in their next-gen consoles. They know that the next generation will likely last longer than this one so it's best to go all out now. When the Xbox 360 was released, it used a GPU that was comparable to a high-end video card. At the time, it featured an architecture that had no PC counterpart and raw performance that surpassed a lot of PC GPUs. Now, it's vastly inferior to current mid-range GPUs (which is no surprise, by the way). If Microsoft wants their next console to last, then they'll need to raise the bar once again.

That maybe true but Microsoft have also learnt from dropping the price of the 360 that the majority of people aren't prepared to pay such high prices for "bleeding edge" and nor do they care or even notice the difference in current PC compared to console graphics. But as we've seen with the current gen, Devs can get a lot out of mid-range tech when coding straight to metal.

b_roca said,
That maybe true but Microsoft have also learnt from dropping the price of the 360 that the majority of people aren't prepared to pay such high prices for "bleeding edge" and nor do they care or even notice the difference in current PC compared to console graphics. But as we've seen with the current gen, Devs can get a lot out of mid-range tech when coding straight to metal.
Hardware prices always go down with electronics and the Xbox 360 is no exception. You may not know this but Microsoft spent a billion dollars to ship the Xbox 360 with 512 MB RAM instead of 256 MB. And Epic Games had a huge part in this. They showed Microsoft a screenshot of Gears of War with 512 and 256 MB of RAM. I have a feeling Epic Games will do something similar with Unreal Engine 4. It may not change the GPU but that could be replaced with a faster one if Microsoft allows it. I know the performance and image quality benefits of a fixed hardware platform are good, but will it be enough? If Microsoft and Sony go for weaker hardware, then PCs will surpass them much sooner than expected. And once that happens, the cycle of developing for the lowest common denominator (consoles) would start all over again.

I think the requirements will be good enough for the casual gaming market that I think they will be after. I just can't see consoles keeping up with PC capabilities for much longer with current tech while keeping prices affordable for the masses.

If PC hardware can become more unified and we get software or an complete OS with something like Steam's "Big Picture" I think hardcore gaming on a console will struggle to compete and so will have to chase a different market.

b_roca said,
I think the requirements will be good enough for the casual gaming market that I think they will be after. I just can't see consoles keeping up with PC capabilities for much longer with current tech while keeping prices affordable for the masses.

If PC hardware can become more unified and we get software or an complete OS with something like Steam's "Big Picture" I think hardcore gaming on a console will struggle to compete and so will have to chase a different market.

It's likely that Microsoft will put a little more focus on the casual market because of the success of the kinect. However, I don't see them shifting their focus completely. They know that a large portion of Xbox 360 gamers are hardcore gamers. And they'll need to release a console with bleeding edge specs in order for it to stay viable for as long as possible. If they don't, then they risk being surpassed in image quality and performance by PCs. Of course, it's inevitable because fixed hardware platforms are non-upgrade-able. But... it's just a matter of whether it happens early in the console's life cycle or later on.

I agree that it'll be hard to find a balance between affordability and capability. If Microsoft wants to stay relevant in the long term (which I hope they will), then they'll opt for more capable hardware. If not, then they'll go for a weaker GPU, less RAM, etc. to save money as well as to gain more sales.

If this generation has taught us anything, it's that consoles largely determine the image quality and performance of PC games. As I mentioned earlier, a lot of developers will cater to the lowest common denominator in terms of image quality and performance. Sometimes, it happens with PC exclusives that happen to use multi-platform engines.

Well, if they're not referencing the Wii U, someone has a next-gen something in the works...

"Another project canceled, this time for a future next-gen project and the layoffs impacted that team, plus the existing South Park team," a tipster wrote Joystiq. "Approximately 20-30 people from all disciplines, including one person who started yesterday, as well as one who started last week."

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03...uth-park-team-affected-fut/

Microsoft is known for having worst management in the industry I wouldn't be surprised if the next XBOX is hinted at E3.

Interesting. I guess it makes sense. It'll have to be next year when they announce it, though. They can still have a Christmas release.

SOMETHING will be said/shown at E3.....just not publicly. They were involved with Sega Saturn, they know how that story plays out.

MikeInBA said,
SOMETHING will be said/shown at E3.....just not publicly. They were involved with Sega Saturn, they know how that story plays out.

Who was involved in Sega Saturn? I'm confused...

M_Lyons10 said,

Who was involved in Sega Saturn? I'm confused...

Microsoft was. One of the reasons Saturn was blamed for being a dud was because it came as a "surprise" to most developers, and nobody was prepared.

MikeInBA said,

Microsoft was. One of the reasons Saturn was blamed for being a dud was because it came as a "surprise" to most developers, and nobody was prepared.

Microsoft was involved in the Sega Dreamcast also, and that was no surprize, but it still didn't help the console, so it doesn't really matter.

Dermot said,

Microsoft was involved in the Sega Dreamcast also, and that was no surprize, but it still didn't help the console, so it doesn't really matter.


I knew they were involved in the Dreamcast, but wasn't aware of them being involved in the Saturn... What did Microsoft do?

Unfortunately the next Xbox will probably be released just after the next Playstation. MS always seem to let themselves down. Im not a MS hater, I own a 360 and would prefer to stick with MS than Sony however it would be nice to see MS lead the way here.

Orange Battery said,
Unfortunately the next Xbox will probably be released just after the next Playstation. MS always seem to let themselves down. Im not a MS hater, I own a 360 and would prefer to stick with MS than Sony however it would be nice to see MS lead the way here.

They came first last time... :-/

This is what I expected. There are too many heavy hitters for the Xbox 360 (and the PS3) for 2012. Games like Halo 4, BioShock Infinite, Borderlands 2, Aliens: Colonial Marines, the next Call of Duty game, and more. It wouldn't be smart to divert attention from those games with the announcement of a new console.

Anaron said,
This is what I expected. There are too many heavy hitters for the Xbox 360 (and the PS3) for 2012. Games like Halo 4, BioShock Infinite, Borderlands 2, Aliens: Colonial Marines, the next Call of Duty game, and more. It wouldn't be smart to divert attention from those games with the announcement of a new console.

...and moreover, those heavy hitters simply would not be coming out on the 360 if a successor were on its way anytime soon...