Microsoft sees progress in getting Windows on XO

Microsoft Corporation Vice President Will Poole has announced the software giant has made progress in getting a basic version of Windows XP to work on the low-cost One Laptop Per Child Foundation's laptop that currently runs on rival Linux software."We're spending a nontrivial amount of money on it. We remain hopeful with our progress to date, we still have significant work ahead to finalize our analysis and testing processes. At the end of the day, there's no guarantees," said Poole.

The OLPC Foundation, a spin-off from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, plans to start producing the $188 machines in China next month and eventually manufacture millions a year for elementary school children in developing countries. The laptops were designed specifically to run Linux programs. If the machines run only Linux, Microsoft will lose an opportunity to expose tens of millions of children worldwide to its Windows system. What I'm most interested in, however, is by how much, if at all, would the cost go up?

News source: Reuters

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Please someone slap me if I am being an idiot, but some of the places in the third world (I hate that term) don't even have electricity...so how can they use it, unless they are also operating a battery program too....

I think Microsoft would donate the Windows and Office to the laptops, it would be a good tax write-off for them as well as a chance to ensure their product is what these people become familiar with.

and stuff that, if it runs linux and open office then its more affordable for 3rd world countries, and gives people a chance to learn an operating system that isnt pure **** built upon technology theived from open source software breaking the licenses... if you put that ****ty windows near it guess what, HUGE PRICE INCREASE ! and then now these people won't be able to get decent job in ICT cos they were forced to use the biggest piece of **** for PCs ever invented instead of the best free alternative

n_K said,
and stuff that, if it runs linux and open office then its more affordable for 3rd world countries, and gives people a chance to learn an operating system that isnt pure **** built upon technology theived from open source software breaking the licenses... if you put that ****ty windows near it guess what, HUGE PRICE INCREASE ! and then now these people won't be able to get decent job in ICT cos they were forced to use the biggest piece of **** for PCs ever invented instead of the best free alternative

In a 3rd world countries windows and linux cost the same ;-)

Anyways, here (a banana 3rd world country) we can buy a pentium-3 with 15" vga screen and all for less that $60 and it's a TRULY COMPUTER, just enough for a free copy of office 2003 and windows 2k (or xp).


The problem isn't necessarily the Windows, it's the apps.

You'd have to make a special cut-down Office for the cut-down Windows to be a worthwhile selling tool.

Selling tool? SELLING TOOL?... why are we even selling this kind of crap to them in the first place.. do you REALLY think that they are in a position to afford a bloody computer.. if they could do that they they wouldn't be hungry...

THINK, people, BEFORE you let your mouths kick in!

Microsoft fear is just the beginning lol... I predict a few years ago about Linux going to gain the desktop market share soon... but I guess it's going slow... Ofcourse Microsoft would see this too. Just like how Apple use a technique to donate their computers to middle schools around the states, Microsoft start to see it is a big threat to their market shares. I would be surprised if Microsoft did not see it coming. But alas they did realize it.

The Walker said,
These people need food and clean water, not a goddamned laptop.

I hate this world!

Agreed.... that does disgust me as well, I feel like we're burning a friggin long bridge here...

The Walker said,
These people need food and clean water, not a goddamned laptop.

I hate this world!

I think the idea is that by giving the kids laptops, they will increase their education greater than they would otherwise, leading to a faster industrialization of the nation which brings about a better economy. Thereby solving the food and water problem by helping the people help themselves. Give a man fish vs teach a man to fish kind of thing. Now, I don't know that they'll get the desired results...

AltoidBox said,

I think the idea is that by giving the kids laptops, they will increase their education greater than they would otherwise, leading to a faster industrialization of the nation which brings about a better economy. Thereby solving the food and water problem by helping the people help themselves. Give a man fish vs teach a man to fish kind of thing. Now, I don't know that they'll get the desired results...

...or... they have a computer to commit fraud with. Either way...

RAID 0 said,
...or... they have a computer to commit fraud with. Either way...

GOOD SIR, I HAVE BEEN TOLD YOU WISH TO AID THE POOR AND STARVING AFRICAN FAMILIES BY OFFERING A MONETARY CONTRIBUTION SO I CAN FIND MY FAMILY'S TREAUSURE, IS THAT TRUE INFORMATION??!?!!


GOOD SIR, I HAVE BEEN TOLD YOU WISH TO AID THE POOR AND STARVING AFRICAN FAMILIES BY OFFERING A MONETARY CONTRIBUTION SO I CAN FIND MY FAMILY'S TREAUSURE, IS THAT TRUE INFORMATION??!?!!


what?

divadiow said,


what? :blink:


hes taking the mickey out of the fraud nigerian emails from ages ago that loads of people got... and suckers believed

The Walker said,
These people need food and clean water, not a goddamned laptop.

I hate this world!

Yes, because everybody knows that for every laptop given out, food and water rations will be cut by an equivalent amount!

This is an "either/or" situation, as people cannot possibly have both!

AltoidBox said,

I think the idea is that by giving the kids laptops, they will increase their education greater than they would otherwise, leading to a faster industrialization of the nation which brings about a better economy. Thereby solving the food and water problem by helping the people help themselves. Give a man fish vs teach a man to fish kind of thing. Now, I don't know that they'll get the desired results...


Anyway how is a laptop in and of itself going to increase education? All it will do is teach them how to use a computer.. or do you think that along with their laptop they are going to recieve free software and internet access also? Even if everyone had a computer do we really want to force a capatalist view on these people before thay have had a chance to establish their own idenity under a banner of self sufficiancy... give them books if we are really so intent on them learning for them selves, and use the rest of the money to develop their infrastructure, put a roof over their heads, give clean water to allow proper grain production and ****ING medicine to address their diseases. THEN when their infrastructure is in place and fuctioning bring them into the disgustingly capaltist society we call the "developed world".

you really want to teach these people "how to fish".. then give them appropriate, relevent tools that will actually help them in their day to day struggle.. not a laptop.. how does that help them at all?...

The laptops won't even be free... all that will happen is the governement of these developing world will be "encouraged" to take out a loan backed by the world bank in order to afford them.. BUT DON'T WORRY THE RATES WILL BE CHEAP...SEE WE REALLY DO CARE ABOUT THESE PEOPLE [/sarcasm]

The only long term benefit will be to the loan makers, this only increases third world debt, and reduces the chances of the country becoming or continuing with it's independance..

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EDIT... and microsoft products of these laptop is the WORST possible outcome.. all it does is pave the way for these countries to be PAYING for software as opposed to having access to free open source applications.. these machines should have been made available with the proviso that M$ products were strictly prohibited from being installed on them.. all M$ is doing is further monopolising the developing countries and opening up new markets for themselves to viciously exploit.

markjensen said,
Yes, because everybody knows that for every laptop given out, food and water rations will be cut by an equivalent amount!

This is an "either/or" situation, as people cannot possibly have both!

Well, as they are NOT getting clean water, food and medicine, if they were suddenly to receive a laptop then, YES, it WOULD be a case of getting one without the other..

Jeez, did you actually TRY think of an appropriate answer before you posted?

Surely people can't be as ill informed as you make out that you are.. surely your post was some kind of joke?

BTW... these laptops won't just be "handed out"... they will still have to be payed for by a governement that cannot afford to even feed it's population... what did you think that the situtation was?... that the companies here in the west are so altuistic that they are just giving the laptops away?... that is, at the VERY least, naive... the laptop scheme is being funded by low rate LOANS to these countries funded by the World bank.. it is increasing their dependance on the west NOT LESSENING IT, It inhibits their ability to form their own growing economy because they will be too busy making loan repayment to the benefit of grasping capitalist corporations.

I don't see why they need to spend a "nontrivial" amount of money. Microsoft has two XP based products designed for similar machines. Windows fundamentals and XP embedded. Both of which have minimum requirements below the OLPC specs.

If anything, I'd think it simply be a matter of drivers and a few new additions such as the proposed mesh networking OLPC is supposed to support.

Hmm... maybe the problem is trimming down an office suite to fit in the remaining space.

I think Microsoft needs to concentrate more on Windows Vista support, Vista service packs and Windows 7. Vista took forever to come out, and then people had problems for some time after its launch. I really hope the same thing doesn't happen to Windows 7, in terms of trust and reliability.