Microsoft slams Google for disguising Gmail ads as email, calling it 'Gspam'

In July, we reported that some users of Gmail began to notice that Google was putting in ads in the Promotions folder that were made to look like emails. Google tried to explain away these ad-emails as a replacement for showing ad links on top of the Gmail inbox, but the practice made quite a few Gmail users upset, complaining that Google was sending spam in their Promotions folder.

Microsoft has decided to take notice as part of its latest chapter in the long running Scroogled marketing campaign against Google over the disguised email ads and wants to highlight how Google only values its ad placements and not your content. The Scroolged website offers up Microsoft's own opinion on the practice:

Your email provider should protect you from spam, but Google is doing just the opposite; they're reading your private email conversations and using what they find to push junk mail directly to your Gmail inbox.

In fact, Microsoft apparently called the practice "Gspam", at least according to ZDNet. The site spotted a blog post from Microsoft that used the term but apparently that post was taken down today.

This new campaign is also designed to get Gmail customers to jump ship and start using Microsoft's own Outlook.com service, which recently celebrated its first anniversary.

This is of course not the first time that Microsoft has attacked Google and Gmail. In February, Microsoft published the results of a survey which showed that 70 percent of consumers "don't know that major email providers routinely engage in the practice of reading through their personal email to sell ads", while 88 percent of those surveyed disapprove of those kinds of actions.

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My outlook is full of spam, and I didn't even registered on crap websites. With my gmail account I registered on many crap and is public on many websites but I don't have spam (maybe 1 spam/week, tops).

Funny I don't see ads in my Gmail inbox. The fact is that these ads are so rare (yes I have gotten it once) that when people see this horrible commercial, it will only look like Microsoft is making stuff up.

Oh well, can blame Microsoft for trying. You know what they say, "Microsoft can't afford to lose the tablet wars", "Microsoft can't afford to lose the smartphone war", what's one more thing that Microsoft can't lose and desperately trying to get people to come back to?

Microsoft is pumping so much money into these ad campaigns of all their products. It smells of desperation. Good job Microsoft.

Wow these debates get silly. It's simple. Google gives you free software for Android phones and tablets and web search because it makes it money on ads. Microsoft doesn't rely on ads nearly as much this points out all of the conniptions that Google goes through to monetize it's services to allow if to make free software. Meanwhile of course Google will point out that hey, you get free software and search from us and don't have to pay licensing fees.

Pick your poison.

True. Google is like the Wal-mart of the internet. I feel like I need to shower after I use any of their services. Ok, they created a great search engine, but their methods seem less than classy.

I keep hearing about this, but I've not actually seen it once. Was this just a test thing that's exploded completely out of proportion, or are others actually getting them?

LOL, I didn't know they were doing this until I saw this story. I've had gmail since the beginning, and use ad blocker & opt out of all ads/marketing. Other than emptying a few spams I get every few days, I haven't seen one email like the one shown.

We all know that Microsoft will introduce the same thing sooner or later

Plus the ads are under the category ads, you must click on them and request to see ads

john.smith_2084 said,
We all know that Microsoft will introduce the same thing sooner or later

We all? Don't claim to represent everybody when you don't.

wahoospa said,
Google knows how to make a dollar and Microsoft, well, cry baby.
I like a user-friendly 'cry baby" over a company that want to make money of you by spamming at you...

I set up my old gmail that I haven't use for a long time but I still see it on my WP8. Will that google spam comes thru my WP? So far I haven't seen the spam, but if it does, I need to close that account for good.

It is funny seeing people side with Google on this one. If it were not for Microsoft or Apple then there would be no one keeping Google in Check. And Vise-Versa. Believe me, you would not like Google, Apple and Microsoft if it were not for other companies to keep each other in Check.

This, History has shown what happens when 1 company goes unchallenged. (not just talking about the 90s and Microsoft's era.)
Let them fight it out, companies always did in the past or did everyone purposely forget the IEvsNetscape public flamewars? Sega vs Nintendo's **** contest?
Let them point out eachothers flaws the more people are aware of companies flaws, the more the companies will attempt to fix up those flaws.

Stuff like this continues to make me dislike Microsoft more and more each day. It also makes them seem rather desperate, going after the iPad in their tablet adverts, and Google in these adverts.

minster11 said,
what do you think about Mac vs PC ads?

I always hated those as well! I hate companies trying to slate other companies in their advertising. Thankfully Apple don't seem to be running that campaign much any more..

Chicane-UK said,
Stuff like this continues to make me dislike Microsoft more and more each day. It also makes them seem rather desperate, going after the iPad in their tablet adverts, and Google in these adverts.

I guess you've totally forgotten (or have not seen) Apple's PC vs. Mac campaign. You also forgot that Google started all of these about a year and a half ago when they started attacking Microsoft over Twitter.

Out of curiosity, what are your thought on Google with their Gmail email ads?

Chicane-UK said,

I always hated those as well! I hate companies trying to slate other companies in their advertising. Thankfully Apple don't seem to be running that campaign much any more..

minster11 said,
what do you think about Mac vs PC ads?

Those were terrible. These are terrible. The latest iPad Mini can't play Halo ad is ridiculously terrible.

minster11 said,
Out of curiosity, what are your thought on Google with their Gmail email ads?

I've been a GMail user for a long time and have never even noticed adverts in GMail to be honest, as they've been so unobtrusive.

Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the major source of revenue for Google comes from MS and Windows machines?! IDK if Android is balancing on the green yet.
I really wish it was legal for MS for BAN Google from their devices 100%, after all Google doesn't need MS right?!

Chicane-UK said,

Thankfully Apple don't seem to be running that campaign much any more..

You typically don't pick much fun at your competition when you're on top.

PCAVV said,
Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the major source of revenue for Google comes from MS and Windows machines?! IDK if Android is balancing on the green yet.
I really wish it was legal for MS for BAN Google from their devices 100%, after all Google doesn't need MS right?!

This post.... HNNNNGGGG

I'm emailing this to any professor, someone actually wrote this.

Edited by Kalint, Aug 9 2013, 9:13pm :

wixostrix said,

You typically don't pick much fun at your competition when you're on top.

Apple, on top of what? The dung heap perhaps

I am not aware that MS or anyone speaking on their behalf would claim that outlook.com is flawless, there are somethings which I would like to see improved, maybe it will continue to improve. However, I am many others would be pretty p**sed if MS suddenly starts to spam my inbox. Infact we expect our e-mail providers, even free ones, to protect us from junk, spams and malwares, not add to them as Google is apparently doing (I am a Gmail users, but increasingly moving to using both private and outlook.com for e-mail).

Microsoft needs to end this desperate campaign. Especially after their PRISM declaration that they care about our rights, but only after finding out we don't.

ambiance said,
Especially after their PRISM declaration that they care about our rights, but only after finding out we don't.

You mean the part where they were "legally" forced to by the government? Just like all the other major players, including Google? Point fingers where it belongs.

ambiance said,
Microsoft needs to end this desperate campaign. Especially after their PRISM declaration that they care about our rights, but only after finding out we don't.

PRISM has nothing to do with Microsoft vs Google.

I'm sure Microsoft cares about your rights as much as they care about their own rights. It's the government you should be asking if they care about your rights.

The government is forcing Microsoft to give them access.

So in some people minds it's OK for Google to spy on them but not the government... Interesting, makes a lot of sense...
I'm actually "OK" with the gov spying on me, but not Google...
Of course I would prefer no spying at all, but I think that freedom right is long gone...

ambiance said,
Microsoft needs to end this desperate campaign. Especially after their PRISM declaration that they care about our rights, but only after finding out we don't.

You are trying to lay PRISM at the feet of Microsoft?

If you want to use PRISM in an argument of Microsoft vs Google, realize this. PRISM can access data already stored on Google servers. PRISM cannot access data already store on Microsoft servers. (PRISM's only access to Microsoft data while you are transmitting it to or from the server or via a court order.)

I suppose you hate radio stations and all phone companies from the 1970s and 1980s because the previous technology 'Eschelon' monitored all terrestrial communications. (Eschelon was effective augmented/replaced by PRISM.)

What is strange is people will carry around an easily accessible Android device that can be remotely triggered to open the microphone and camera fairly easily and complain that PRISM monitoring data on the Internet could potentially violate their privacy.

Mobius Enigma said,
...

If you want to use PRISM in an argument of Microsoft vs Google, realize this. PRISM can access data already stored on Google servers. PRISM cannot access data already store on Microsoft servers. (PRISM's only access to Microsoft data while you are transmitting it to or from the server or via a court order.)

...


Where have you heard/read this? According to Snowden's leaked document it was pretty much the other way around.

fobban said,

Where have you heard/read this? According to Snowden's leaked document it was pretty much the other way around.

You need to do better research if you were left believing this...

Mobius Enigma said,

You need to do better research if you were left believing this...

I'm still waiting for an answer...

Studio384 said,
I don't know about you, but I fail to see any ads in Outlook.com.

I use Outlook and much prefer it over Gmail, but it does have ads on the right side.

You probably have Adblocker enabled or something, as do I.

Studio384 said,
I don't know about you, but I fail to see any ads in Outlook.com.

I paid for my old Yahoo and Hotmail/Live accounts (now Outlook). No ads for me. Adblocking or No-Scripting, perhaps? They would be along the right side of the window normally.

MidTxWRX said,

I use Outlook and much prefer it over Gmail, but it does have ads on the right side.

You probably have Adblocker enabled or something, as do I.


The ads are also country dependent though.
Some countries get more ads on MS sites than others.

Studio384 said,
I don't know about you, but I fail to see any ads in Outlook.com.

I see ads on Outlook all the time on the right hand side...even after I adjusted my settings.

To everyone responding on my comment: I've got no adblockers active, I realy just don't see any ad. Also, messaging is disabled.

They should stick to showing the best of Outlook because it can stand on its own. Gmail is far from being the market shake up and leader it was in the early years. Gmail is pretty horrible to use nowadays.

Ambroos said,
In what Outlook-filled cave are you living?

The cave where he's right? Outlook is far nicer to use that Gmail. Sure, Gmail might have a load of extra features that the vast majority of people don't use, but that's just bloat.

Lets just ignore all the junk the various MS services send you if you don't opt out. I don't really see much difference between the two.

The part where you can opt out maybe, beside, Microsofts mails are newsletters, not ads and it requires a simple checkbox when registrating to disable it.

Studio384 said,
The part where you can opt out maybe, beside, Microsofts mails are newsletters, not ads and it requires a simple checkbox when registrating to disable it.

This "feature" is opt out as well. Also the content of MS spam is not important, the point is I didn't ask for them to send them and I don't want them. Which is the very definition of spam.

WinMunkee said,
What about the part where you can't opt out of GSpam?

Sure you can. If you opt out of interest based ads, less ads. If you remove the promotions tab, you dont get the so called "gspam". I removed the tab as soon a I saw it.

SharpGreen said,

This "feature" is opt out as well. Also the content of MS spam is not important, the point is I didn't ask for them to send them and I don't want them. Which is the very definition of spam.
You keeped a checkbox that asks permission for it checked, then you ask for it.

Studio384 said,
The part where you can opt out maybe, beside, Microsofts mails are newsletters, not ads and it requires a simple checkbox when registrating to disable it.

Hmm, so you're saying that Microsoft disguises their ads as newsletter emails...

This new gmail feature, which I'm not very fond of, probably got implemented due to increased use of adblock plugins. At least it's a simple checkbox to disable it.

fobban said,

Hmm, so you're saying that Microsoft disguises their ads as newsletter emails...

This new gmail feature, which I'm not very fond of, probably got implemented due to increased use of adblock plugins. At least it's a simple checkbox to disable it.

This gspam looks different to a normal email in the list, so I'm sure it wont be long before Adblockers find out how to remove those too.

Ads you have to click on to see, or ads that show up all the time. I would pick the ones I have to click on.

Anyway, MS making a big deal about nothing...again. No surprise here. And of course they left out how easy it is to disable this as well as the ability to opt out of interest based ads. I opted out, disabled the promotions tab, and I see very little ads even with no ad blocker on.

And no, Google is not reading your private emails. A bot does this similar to how companies like Google scan emails for spam and malware.

techbeck said,
Ads you have to click on to see, or ads that show up all the time. I would pick the ones I have to click on.

Anyway, MS making a big deal about nothing...again. No surprise here. And of course they left out how easy it is to disable this as well as the ability to opt out of interest based ads. I opted out, disabled the promotions tab, and I see very little ads even with no ad blocker on.

And no, Google is not reading your private emails. A bot does this similar to how companies like Google scan emails for spam and malware.

But if MS did the same thing, the whole world would lose the f***ing minds (actually, just the ms haters, but they scream very loud on the internet, so it looks like a lot of people).

I find it odd that people often defend Google for stuff that's really bad, like these fake mail ads. Even worse, their terms of use and user surveillance practices. Even worse, their deletion of features and sites millions of people depend on. Very odd. If MS did the same, they'd be f***ed up by the users.

techbeck said,
Ads you have to click on to see, or ads that show up all the time. I would pick the ones I have to click on.

Anyway, MS making a big deal about nothing...again. No surprise here. And of course they left out how easy it is to disable this as well as the ability to opt out of interest based ads. I opted out, disabled the promotions tab, and I see very little ads even with no ad blocker on.

And no, Google is not reading your private emails. A bot does this similar to how companies like Google scan emails for spam and malware.

I question almost everything Microsoft has done. Their attack ads are so ineffective, Google doesn't even flinch. Their ads focus on products unlike Microsoft who thinks being a douche bag is an effective form of advertising.

But hey, it gives the ******** here something to write about. Yeeee man! Scroogled yo! Cool people say scroogled man! Surface RT 4 Lyfe bro!

techbeck said,
Ads you have to click on to see, or ads that show up all the time. I would pick the ones I have to click on.

Anyway, MS making a big deal about nothing...again. No surprise here. And of course they left out how easy it is to disable this as well as the ability to opt out of interest based ads. I opted out, disabled the promotions tab, and I see very little ads even with no ad blocker on.

And no, Google is not reading your private emails. A bot does this similar to how companies like Google scan emails for spam and malware.

Advertisements always state how to make a competitors product better. As for ads, I'd prefer the ones that take no action vs action required.

Sorry techbeck - disagreeing with you on yet another Google error. I've converted a few Gmail users to Outlook.com. Don't hate.

pantera9 said,

But if MS did the same thing, the whole world would lose the f***ing minds (actually, just the ms haters, but they scream very loud on the internet, so it looks like a lot of people).

I find it odd that people often defend Google for stuff that's really bad, like these fake mail ads. Even worse, their terms of use and user surveillance practices. Even worse, their deletion of features and sites millions of people depend on. Very odd. If MS did the same, they'd be f***ed up by the users.

The same amount of people will bitch and moan over whatever product/company they hate. This is not unique to Google, MS, Apple, or anyone else. There is the same ragging on MS for what they do...like the many XBOX ONE threads.

I use products from every company and find certain products from each useful for my needs.

norseman said,
Sorry techbeck - disagreeing with you on yet another Google error. I've converted a few Gmail users to Outlook.com. Don't hate.

What error? What I have stated is fact. Google does not read your personal emails, you can opt out of interest based ads, and you can remove the "gspam" but disabling the promotions tab.

Kalint said,

I question almost everything Microsoft has done. Their attack ads are so ineffective, Google doesn't even flinch. Their ads focus on products unlike Microsoft who thinks being a douche bag is an effective form of advertising.

oh they are effective alright. everyone knows google snoops your data to sell advertising. if you weren't a google fan,you would denounce this despicable practice. these ads keep the thought fresh,and that's all that's needed.

vcfan said,

oh they are effective alright. everyone knows Google snoops your data to sell advertising. if you weren't a Google fan,you would denounce this despicable practice. these ads keep the thought fresh,and that's all that's needed.

Google uses a bot to search for keywords. Similar bots are used to search for spam emails and malware. No personal info is taken or stolen. Do you really think this would be allowed by any Government? Its a complete invasion of privacy IF it was true. MS just likes to spin things to make the competition look bad. Crap marketing.

And MS ads are about as effective as the Apple ones vs PC. If you were not a complete MS fan, you would see this.

I like Google for my phone and email, and MS for my OS, desktop Office, Skype for video...and many other things. I think Cromebooks have their place, but I would not buy one because I have no use for a device. If I had a WP, then I would probably use Outlook more. Not because I am paranoid...but because you need an account to use WP8, as you do with Android, so may as well go Outlook and be consistent.

vcfan said,

oh they are effective alright. everyone knows google snoops your data to sell advertising. if you weren't a google fan,you would denounce this despicable practice. these ads keep the thought fresh,and that's all that's needed.

This guy... lol... Hey when you get into college, take a course in marketing alright. You'll learn how Microsoft does it, and a website called... face... something? book? Anyways, I'll be here when you comment your apology to me.

techbeck said,
What error? What I have stated is fact. Google does not read your personal emails, you can opt out of interest based ads, and you can remove the "gspam" but disabling the promotions tab.

I suppose you have proof that Google don't read personal emails then?

neo158 said,

I suppose you have proof that Google don't read personal emails then?

and I suppose you have proof that Microsoft is an angel with outlook.com

neo158 said,
Did I say anything about Microsoft, no I didn't. I just asked a simple question!!!!

Well of course I was going to counter with that since you're implying with Google. And we don't know since this whole NSA incident. But for normal operation its a simple bot looking for keywords and displaying ads. Same kind of bot that checks spam, viruses, etc.

neo158 said,

I suppose you have proof that Google don't read personal emails then?


While I am not defending google at all, google makes money differently than Microsoft. google's approach is ad oriented. It has to do all these to make money for they services while microsoft sells products mostly. so it depends which one you choose. I chose Microsoft, because its not as sneaky as google.

techbeck said,
Ads you have to click on to see, or ads that show up all the time. I would pick the ones I have to click on.

Anyway, MS making a big deal about nothing...again. No surprise here. And of course they left out how easy it is to disable this as well as the ability to opt out of interest based ads. I opted out, disabled the promotions tab, and I see very little ads even with no ad blocker on.


I don't see any ads at all in iCloud. By default. Yay!

S3P€hR said,

While I am not defending google at all, google makes money differently than Microsoft. google's approach is ad oriented. It has to do all these to make money for they services while microsoft sells products mostly. so it depends which one you choose. I chose Microsoft, because its not as sneaky as google.

How are they sneaky when they tell you and give you an option (that's not even close to being hidden) to disable them. Unlike Microsoft who rip people off with their over priced software.


Oh, mind you the **** that Microsoft sends me lord knows how they got my email... and who knows how they got permission to send me spam about skype, xbox gold every 2 months and why I should waste $60 and other useless crap.

Microsoft losing on all fronts to Google they are just butt hurt. At least they seem to be learning something from progressive companies like Google and finally got rid of annoying ads in their new email service.

Edited by onionjuice, Aug 9 2013, 10:11pm :

I seem to recall getting a popup about this and I told it to go away. I don't have ads or a "promotions" folder in my gmail.

Presumably those that do would be continually clicking on the "mark as spam" button, so google would be screwing their own metrics/system.

I know I always "report" all the ads facebook puts in my news feed. Strangely I haven't had any for a while now

neo158 said,

I suppose you have proof that Google don't read personal emails then?

I suppose you have proof they do other than what MS is feeding everyone and what all the paranoid people are saying? Google announced what they were going to and detailed it. They were not hiding anything.

I didn't say anything about Microsoft, did I?

The point is that people were opted in by default when they should have had the opportunity to opt in if the wanted to!!!!

techbeck said,

Google uses a bot to search for keywords. Similar bots are used to search for spam emails and malware. No personal info is taken or stolen. Do you really think this would be allowed by any Government? Its a complete invasion of privacy IF it was true. MS just likes to spin things to make the competition look bad. Crap marketing.

picture going through airport security. they check you out and your stuff to make sure you're clear. then you move on to another check. except this time,someone goes through all your stuff and offers you stuff to buy. like " hey man,this is a nice pair of underwear you got, but ive got some cooler underwear id like to sell you",and, "oh that's a nice picture of your wife, heres some picture frames im offering if youd like to buy them".

not ok,no matter whos doing it.

vcfan said,

picture going through airport security. they check you out and your stuff to make sure you're clear. then you move on to another check. except this time,someone goes through all your stuff and offers you stuff to buy. like " hey man,this is a nice pair of underwear you got, but ive got some cooler underwear id like to sell you",and, "oh that's a nice picture of your wife, heres some picture frames im offering if youd like to buy them".

not ok,no matter whos doing it.

What are you talking about? You implying by saying "thats a nice pic of your wife" to say they are looking at your attachments as well and reading those? They are not looking at attachments and only searching the body of the email. Seriously, people are way to paranoid and believing everything MS is spoon feeding people and all the conspiracy nuts. Should be a rule that with online access, comes a foil hat.

Besides, I think you have more to worry about what the NSA is doing and the Fed government than Google. And if you opt out of the ads, which google has clearly outlined and said how to do, then you can put your foil hat away.

no,im comparing someone going through your stuff and offering to sell you something based on what they find. this has nothing to do with attachments,even though i used an example of a picture found in your luggage.

vcfan said,
no,im comparing someone going through your stuff and offering to sell you something based on what they find. this has nothing to do with attachments,even though i used an example of a picture found in your luggage.

MS thing through your email looking for spam and malware. I don't see how that is any different. Google is just taking keywords and using them to deliver ads. They do not know your SS number, credit card info, date of birth...or any other personal info. And if you are dumb enough to send a plain text email with that info, then anyone can grab it and that is your fault.

Google was upfront on what they were doing and people do not have to use them. If there was any truth to what they are accused of, Gmail would be as popular s they are

I just think it is funny how people takes one sides word for something without definitive proof.

Edited by techbeck, Aug 9 2013, 11:43pm :

techbeck said,

MS thing through your email looking for spam and malware. I don't see how that is any different. Google is just taking keywords and using them to deliver ads. They do not know your SS number, credit card info, date of birth...or any other personal info. And if you are dumb enough to send a plain text email with that info, then anyone can grab it and that is your fault.

Google was upfront on what they were doing and people do not have to use them. If there was any truth to what they are accused of, Gmail would be as popular s they are

I just think it is funny how people takes one sides word for something without definitive proof.

take my previous example for a second. if you went to the airport,and went through a security check,you would be fine with it right? what if they actually took you to another search area just to rummage through your stuff just to sell you things,you would be pretty outraged,would you not? thats the difference between scanning your email for malware,and scanning your email to sell you stuff.

vcfan said,

take my previous example for a second. if you went to the airport,and went through a security check,you would be fine with it right? what if they actually took you to another search area just to rummage through your stuff just to sell you things,you would be pretty outraged,would you not? thats the difference between scanning your email for malware,and scanning your email to sell you stuff.

The point is, your stuff is still being looked at regardless. Doesnt matter if they give you ads or not. And unlike your example where a physical being looks thru your stuff and sees your full contents, its not so when it comes to scanning email.

techbeck said,

The point is, your stuff is still being looked at regardless. Doesnt matter if they give you ads or not. And unlike your example where a physical being looks thru your stuff and sees your full contents, its not so when it comes to scanning email.

one day, a security breach is going to occur,and everything about you that is put in a database will be put on a torrent site. your search history,the videos you watch,content from your emails,all linked to you. you know this stuff is stored because this information is being sold to advertisers and that's how they tailor ads to your likings. scanning your emails for malware is a different story.

vcfan said,

one day, a security breach is going to occur,and everything about you that is put in a database will be put on a torrent site. your search history,the videos you watch,content from your emails,all linked to you. you know this stuff is stored because this information is being sold to advertisers and that's how they tailor ads to your likings. scanning your emails for malware is a different story.

Oh so things like "Android, laptop, Samsung, Star Trek, blue ray" and all those keywords are going to be stored and compromise my security? Big deal. It is not my CC info, not my SS info, and no other personal confidential data. You are feeding in what MS is telling everyone...that Google takes everything from your emails and stores it. Which is not so.

Security breaches happen all the time with credit card companies and other sides. Passwords are exposed all the time as well. If anyone is so worried about their info being leaked, may as well stay off the internet or you know, not put personal data on any site. The same security breaches can happen with Sky Drive, Google Drive, and Drop Box where lots put sensitive info. You can encrypt it all you want but if someone wants it bad enough, they will know how to unencrypt it.

techbeck said,

Oh so things like "Android, laptop, Samsung, Star Trek, blue ray" and all those keywords are going to be stored and compromise my security? Big deal. It is not my CC info, not my SS info, and no other personal confidential data. You are feeding in what MS is telling everyone...that Google takes everything from your emails and stores it. Which is not so.

Security breaches happen all the time with credit card companies and other sides. Passwords are exposed all the time as well. If anyone is so worried about their info being leaked, may as well stay off the internet or you know, not put personal data on any site. The same security breaches can happen with Sky Drive, Google Drive, and Drop Box where lots put sensitive info. You can encrypt it all you want but if someone wants it bad enough, they will know how to unencrypt it.

can you give me access to your emails,and allow me to keylog your web searches? I just want to parse your data,and compile a database for commercial purposes. cool???

@vcfan

I don't usually comment but I side with +techbeck on this one.

If you want to be physical about its like a package going through a warehouse where a bunch of machines scan the package and it gets send to you instead it looks inside and gives your ads but no human is actually looking at the package/message.

I myself dislike Google style and its nature to get so close to the privacy line. I use Yahoo mail since it was the first account I made and pay $20 per year for no ads. I use outlook.com for all my contacts, Calendar, tasks to sync well with my new Lumia 925 and Outlook 2013 plus the metro apps.

The real truth is everyone sees your message once it gets send because that message in transit goes across different servers which I think the action is called hops. So during the transit a number of times where your message could be intercepted or peeked on. My family each have a digital ID or email certificate to encrypt the messages if there something sensitive. You could get free Digital ID/ Certificate (COMODO) or a paid one (Symantec). You just need a email client that handles s/mime which Outlook (Paid) and Thunderbird (free) does. This allows no one without the right ID and Private Key can read the message.

You imagine there are multiple airport security looking at the message at different servers but if you scramble the message no one can know.

vcfan said,

can you give me access to your emails,and allow me to keylog your web searches? I just want to parse your data,and compile a database for commercial purposes. cool???

Like I said, any data can be compromised. Google is not unique this and data hacks happen all the time. To think otherwise is foolish. MS is just likes to scare people in order to get people to use their services. Which is really sad.

vcfan said,

one day, a security breach is going to occur,and everything about you that is put in a database will be put on a torrent site. your search history,the videos you watch,content from your emails,all linked to you. you know this stuff is stored because this information is being sold to advertisers and that's how they tailor ads to your likings. scanning your emails for malware is a different story.


Google doesn't sell any information to advertisers. They never have. They target the ads.

onionjuice said,

How are they sneaky when they tell you and give you an option (that's not even close to being hidden) to disable them. Unlike Microsoft who rip people off with their over priced software.


I am not sure how google gives you choice over things like google+ that basically force you to create a profile if you want to use google search or when they killed my number one site google reader despite all of the petitions online has been filled to not to close it. besides nobody is forcing you to buy Microsoft products or services. You can use Chromebook as your main computer be my guest

S3P€hR said,

I am not sure how google gives you choice over things like google+ that basically force you to create a profile if you want to use google search or when they killed my number one site google reader despite all of the petitions online has been filled to not to close it. besides nobody is forcing you to buy Microsoft products or services. You can use Chromebook as your main computer be my guest

Wrong. You do not have to create a Google+ profile to use google search (do you mean it asks you to tell them your name). You just don't know how to use Google right and that's not their fault that you aren't a proficient user.

onionjuice said,

Wrong. You do not have to create a Google+ profile to use google search (do you mean it asks you to tell them your name). You just don't know how to use Google right and that's not their fault that you aren't a proficient user.


oh yea? good for you that you're a proficient user and don't even signin to google.