Microsoft starts charging for Windows Live Mobile?

MoDaCo has picked up on a recent popup that occurs when you try and sign into Windows Live Messenger from a Windows Mobile powered device. The following message is displayed:

"Hello! Starting today, your 30 day trial period beings. By selecting OK you acknowledge that your use of Windows Live services continues to be subject to the Terms of Use and Privacy Statement. Data charges from your mobile operator, including..."

Microsoft has hinted in the past that it could simply flick a switch and charge for the service and it appears that may have occured today. We have contacted Microsoft regarding this and the company is currently looking into the issue and will respond shortly.

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I don't mind too much now, just took off my internet bundle with O2, since they started asking for 50p just to check train times!!!.

As long as the protocol for logigng into windows live ( ie the desktop client ) is still free and open theres little that can be done short of blocking ALL msn traffic from authorised clients.

There are plenty of 3rd Party alternatives.

It was a glitch... See post #112 at source from Jeff McKean from Microsoft.

Quote - jeffmckea@MoDaCo
Hi folks, Jeff from Microsoft here (any Mobians on the thread will know me from Amsterdam and a few other events) – first of all, sorry for taking so long to get back to you; we needed to do some investigation as Windows Mobile users were not supposed to get that message.

Here’s what happened: This week we rolled out a direct-to-consumer billing service for the Windows Live client on Nokia S60 in the UK and Sweden. Although we are considering doing the same at a future time for Windows Mobile, this has not been implemented – however, something happened and many of you saw a trial message on Windows Mobile devices. Windows Mobile customers shouldn’t have received any notifications of a 30-day trial and we are working as quickly as possible to correct this.

As you may know, we offer Messenger services through mobile operators on lots of handsets, not just Windows Mobile. Traditionally, customers have been billed by their mobile operators for many of these services, either directly or through their data package.

I just logged into windows live mobile messenger with 2 different IDs and didn't get any message with a notice of any kind. Did any of you try logging in yourselves or not? I use Blackjack on AT&T with a full data service.

It has been know for a while that this would probably happen to the symbian/nokia version of windows live.

Sign up today for the free Windows Live services trial. We will notify you 30 days in advance of the monthly charge for using Windows Live services on your device. Data charges from your mobile operator may be incurred for downloading the Windows Live software and using the Windows Live services. Please note – in case you have multiple Windows Live accounts, you will need to purchase a 30 day pass for each unique Windows Live login ID/passport account in use on your device.

http://europe.nokia.com/link?cid=EDITORIAL_324858

we already have to pay our mobile provider to use this as a service, why should i pay to use live messager when i could get a fully functional All in one IM for free...

Berserk87 said,
we already have to pay our mobile provider to use this as a service, why should i pay to use live messager when i could get a fully functional All in one IM for free...

According to the message thread that the source links to, a Microsoft MVP has e-mailed MS to check on it and a few people are thinking it it may be a scam. No new news yet...

"Data charges from your mobile operator" for data exchange (downloading msn extra contents like map info etc), and microsoft isnt charging for using windows live ..which is obviously completely free. :-)

You aren't reading it right. The message clearly states that the "30 day trial period" is beginning. The "data charges" are mentioned as an additional point that your carrier may or may not apply additional charges for using the service during the trial period.

markjensen said,
You aren't reading it right. The message clearly states that the "30 day trial period" is beginning. The "data charges" are mentioned as an additional point that your carrier may or may not apply additional charges for using the service during the trial period.

hmm..yeap...but just had a unofficial word with my frnd (works at MS),he said live services are meant for free & he will confirm me tommorrow (by then we would have been already known the real fact

If one dislikes this move, switch to a free messenger. It may be business as usual for Microsoft, but it's business as usual for you too. Pick whatever you like. Some alternatives might be: www.heysan.com, wwwl.meebo.com... Of course, there are software-based ones too.

I looked at the screenshot from the source. It's surprising if Microsoft did this without advance notice, and it doesn't appear that there is any way to get more info (like pricing) from the dialog box.

Most companies do this. Apple offered the Beta of BootCamp free for all at first, then activated their timer.

Companies are in business to make money.

markjensen said,
Most companies do this. Apple offered the Beta of BootCamp free for all at first, then activated their timer.

BootCamp doesn't cost anything because you can't buy it seperately - it's part of Leopard.

daPhoenix said,

BootCamp doesn't cost anything because you can't buy it seperately - it's part of Leopard.
Silly play on semantics on your part. I said Boot Camp was offered free by Apple at first. Factual. It was available for all Tiger users for free.

Then I said they activated their timer. Also factual, as it "expired" and lapsed into reduced functionality (still worked, but many abilities were turned off).

To get Boot Camp back to the full functionality to create and modify entries, what do you have to do? Yeah, that's right. buy Leopard.

That's all I am saying.

markjensen said,
Then I said they activated their timer. Also factual, as it "expired" and lapsed into reduced functionality (still worked, but many abilities were turned off).

Actually no "abilities" apart from being able to install were turned off and you can sorta get around that as well, if you really want to.

daPhoenix said,

Actually no "abilities" apart from being able to install were turned off and you can sorta get around that as well, if you really want to.
Oh. I stand corrected. I thought that BootCamp was reduced in functionality for Tiger, and that Apple no longer offered it for Tiger.

Wait. That's still right!

Sure, there are "ways around" it, just as there are "ways around" legal Windows and MS Office installs.

creamhackered said,
I guess so but Windows Live is supposed to be a free service and there has been no announcement to warn about this.

You just got 30 days of warning.

RAID 0 said,
You just got 30 days of warning.
Or not. There has been no official word, and (as far as I know) this isn't happening to everyone.