Microsoft talks more about Windows 8 Photos Metro app

The last few entries on the official Windows 8 developer blog have seen articles that discuss in detail the Metro apps that Microsoft has included with the new operating system. Today, Microsoft concludes this Metro app series with a look at the revised version of the official Windows 8 Photos app.

Written by Brad Weed, a group program manager on the Windows Live team, the blog talks about the features of the Photos app. One feature comes from feedback from Windows 8 users, who told Microsoft that most of their photos are on their PC; Microsoft has decided to link the Photos app to the desktop SkyDrive client. Weed states:

Now, if you install the SkyDrive desktop app, you can choose to have all of your photos automatically sent and saved to SkyDrive. Any PC with the SkyDrive desktop app installed will show up in the Photos app. So by simply running SkyDrive desktop app on the PC(s) where all your photos reside, the Photos app will reach back to that PC so that you can look at your old photos alongside your recent ones. You'll soon be revisiting photos you forgot you had.

The Photos app can also import pictures from a camera or other USB devices to your Windows 8 PC. You can also use the Windows 8 Share charm to share any photo on your Windows 8 PC to other services such as Facebook, or share them via email or a person's SkyDrive account.

Source: Windows 8 blog | Image via Microsoft

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Anyone remember the WLPG? Before they removed half the features and added the ribbon interface.

All the Metro apps are extremely dumbed down versions of desktop apps that have touch and take up my entire screen. Is that supposed to be impressive? Even as a developer, they had far richer api's available earlier (the whole Mesh sync api) which were killed off.

No mention of the formats supported, geolocation, face recognition, tagging, editing, touchup and all sorts of other things the earlier MS apps already had! Microsoft likes to push WinRT and Metro as the next big thing for developers and users alike, and their 1st party apps which are meant to showcase this are absolutely pathetic.


This blog is more about how they are using Skydrive to reach through like Live Mesh did in addition to storing things on SkyDrive.

So Windows 8 will essentially allow you to access photos/files from any PC you use in the native Metro integration Apps through the SkyDrive integration, and not have to load all your files/pictures to SkyDrive.

This is what users have been asking for since Live Mesh offered the pass through sharing features, and SkyDrive and the Metro Apps are getting this functionality, which is kind of nice for Windows 8, and will be also be nice for iOS/Mac/Android users too...

Really people ...do you really have to debate this?
Can somebody just say, oh it is nice to see a photo app that would allow me to sync and share. Nope, everyone has to put their technical opinion in the matter.

.Neo, I have a feeling that you are not even tried this at all, since you are missing the point; The photo app is based on TOUCH INTERFACE, and Microsoft is showing that you can have a simplistic approach to synching and sharing your photos in Skydrive with your fingers. It is not meant for anything else other than to provide a simply approach to your photos. The rest is up to the developers.

RommelS said,
Really people ...do you really have to debate this?
Can somebody just say, oh it is nice to see a photo app that would allow me to sync and share. Nope, everyone has to put their technical opinion in the matter.

.Neo, I have a feeling that you are not even tried this at all, since you are missing the point; The photo app is based on TOUCH INTERFACE, and Microsoft is showing that you can have a simplistic approach to synching and sharing your photos in Skydrive with your fingers. It is not meant for anything else other than to provide a simply approach to your photos. The rest is up to the developers.


He can refute this if he states that MS is making all the apps to work as good as the tablet on the desktop/laptop environment. He's also stating how incomplete it looks in comparison with the Explorer + Windows Photo Viewer. But that's pretty much about it.

He is just hating how these metro apps are being shaped up.

what I want is not yet another photo app. what I want is for windows phone to send the ORIGINAL photos to skydrive and NOT its low quality resized version which should I lose the phone it will be all I've got. Second instead of yet another photo app, how about a kick ass free photo editor with all the filters and stuff you have to buy elsewhere. now that would be useful....but then again, it is MSFT. not really concerned for users before, not now, not ever.

neonspark said,
what I want is not yet another photo app. what I want is for windows phone to send the ORIGINAL photos to skydrive and NOT its low quality resized version which should I lose the phone it will be all I've got. Second instead of yet another photo app, how about a kick ass free photo editor with all the filters and stuff you have to buy elsewhere. now that would be useful....but then again, it is MSFT. not really concerned for users before, not now, not ever.

Microsoft isn't interested in supplying this, they don't want to annoy devs I guess that make a living from selling you such tools.

GS:mac

neonspark said,
what I want is not yet another photo app. what I want is for windows phone to send the ORIGINAL photos to skydrive and NOT its low quality resized version which should I lose the phone it will be all I've got. Second instead of yet another photo app, how about a kick ass free photo editor with all the filters and stuff you have to buy elsewhere. now that would be useful....but then again, it is MSFT. not really concerned for users before, not now, not ever.

A little dramatic, aren't we? Especially since I just took a photo that was stored on my computer - 732K, 1920x1080. I then used the photo app described in this article (I know you are not talking about some other app or device, otherwise .Neo will start yelling about going off topic like he did above) to upload that photo to SkyDrive. When the SkyDrive desktop sync app synced the file to my computer I did a file compare with the original. The two files were exactly the same, not resized, not reduced in quality, the exact same file. But I guess you will just change the argument to syncing the file exactly the same means that they don't care about the user. They are trying to fill user's SkyDrive with large, high quality image data so they can get users to upgrade and pay them more.

neonspark said,
what I want is not yet another photo app. what I want is for windows phone to send the ORIGINAL photos to skydrive and NOT its low quality resized version which should I lose the phone it will be all I've got. Second instead of yet another photo app, how about a kick ass free photo editor with all the filters and stuff you have to buy elsewhere. now that would be useful....but then again, it is MSFT. not really concerned for users before, not now, not ever.

Use the SkyDrive App or wait for the 7.8 update or wait for WP8.

This is about Windows 8 and how SkyDrive will be a pass through sharing inside the Metro Apps instead of having to host all your 1000s of picture on SkyDrive if you do not want to do this.

What do they want exactly? A medal? None of the Metro apps they demoed so far really manage to impress. I mean, what -> actual <- interesting features does the Photos app have in terms of things you can do with, you know, the photos? Sure syncing with SkyDrive is nice, but cloud integration isn't exactly something shockingly new under the horizon.

So far I see a plain window showing your photos with the ability to view them as a slide show, select photos and import photos from a camera. That's it? It's hardly any different from a folder! To be frank, these blog posts about Windows 8's Metro apps are starting to annoy me. There's just nothing special to these apps that's of much interest. It's like Microsoft demoing the Windows Phone 7.8 start screen over and over again while nothing new is shown beyond what we already knew.

Edited by .Neo, Jun 26 2012, 7:55pm :

.Neo said,
What do they want exactly? A medal? None of the Metro apps they demoed so far really manage to impress. I mean, what -> actual <- interesting features does the Photos app have in terms of things you can do with, you know, the photos? Sure syncing with SkyDrive is nice, but cloud integration isn't exactly something shockingly new under the horizon.

So far I see a plain window showing your photos with the ability to view them as a slide show, select photos and import photos from a camera. That's it? To be frank, these blog posts about Windows 8's Metro apps are starting to annoy me. There's just nothing special to these apps that's of much interest.


I guess they're just trying to show Metro developers different ways to create Metro apps that integrate with Windows 8?

I guess, but don't you think it's all a bit underwhelming considering Windows 8 RTM is (apparently) just around the corner? I almost feel it's a bit insulting showing off apps that do practically nothing of much interest compared to what we already have available today, pretending it's something excitingly new.

.Neo said,
What do they want exactly? A medal? None of the Metro apps they demoed so far really manage to impress. I mean, what -> actual <- interesting features does the Photos app have in terms of things you can do with, you know, the photos? Sure syncing with SkyDrive is nice, but cloud integration isn't exactly something shockingly new under the horizon.

So far I see a plain window showing your photos with the ability to view them as a slide show, select photos and import photos from a camera. That's it? To be frank, these blog posts about Windows 8's Metro apps are starting to annoy me. There's just nothing special to these apps that's of much interest. It's like Microsoft demoing the Windows Phone 7.8 start screen over and over again while nothing new is shown beyond what we already knew.

I don't see them asking for a metal. This was posted on a developer blog showing developers how they designed and implemented the code so that others could use some of the design decisions in their own apps. Another company or orchestrated a media circus to announce similar features in their OS, but a simple blog post offends you?

nohone said,
Another company or orchestrated a media circus to announce similar features in their OS, but a simple blog post offends you?

Why do you feel the need to drag other companies (most likely referring to Apple) into this argument? This news post is about Microsoft, Windows 8 and its Metro apps. I'm not discussing anything else nor am I making comparisons. If you want my opinions about another product by some other company I can redirect you to a different thread.

.Neo said,

Why do you feel the need to drag other companies (most likely referring to Apple) into this argument? This new post is about Microsoft, Windows 8 and its Metro apps. I'm not discussing anyone else nor am I making comparisons. If you want my opinions about another product by some other company I can redirect you to a different thread.

Awww, upset because I give you an example of something that you are railing against, but done by another company - a company I didn't name because I knew you would start whining about like you are now? Doesn't distract from the fact that another company made a big deal about being able to share photos, how it was integrated into the OS, did some chest thumping. But a little blog post, and you are having a fit over it.

.Neo said,
I guess, but don't you think it's all a bit underwhelming considering Windows 8 RTM is (apparently) just around the corner? I almost feel it's a bit insulting showing off apps that do practically nothing of much interest compared to what we already have available today, pretending it's something excitingly new.

Apps are separate from the OS, they have been updated as many times as they want before and after Windows 8 hits RTM.

nohone said,
Awww, upset because I give you an example of something that you are railing against, but done by another company - a company I didn't name because I knew you would start whining about like you are now? Doesn't distract from the fact that another company made a big deal about being able to share photos, how it was integrated into the OS, did some chest thumping. But a little blog post, and you are having a fit over it.

Awww too narrow-minded to take into account I might have actually said the exact same thing about that other product slated for July? Apparently you are. It's nice of you to throw up all these smoke screens and involve other companies instead of actually discussing the content of my post/this new item.

dagamer34 said,
Apps are separate from the OS, they have been updated as many times as they want before and after Windows 8 hits RTM.

Apps in every modern OS can be updated. Nothing new or special about that. It would be nice if the the Metro apps had a little more oomph when the OS hits RTM next month though.

Edited by .Neo, Jun 26 2012, 8:03pm :

.Neo said,

Awww too narrow-minded to take into account I might have actually said the exact same thing about that other product slated for July? It's nice of you to throw up all these smoke screens and involve other companies instead of actually discussing the content of my post/this new item.

I did discuss it - it is a blog post. Not some giant production where Microsoft hired a big PR firm to gather journalists around to look at a image viewing app, they wrote a blog posting. I guess Microsoft should just shut down their blogs because .Neo could be offended because they may make a post he does not approve of. Was it too much for NeoWin to write a new article to recap a blog posting? Perhaps, but I never bought into the it is not news, don't post it bit - this could be useful to people who do not know of, or regularly view that blog.

Mind passing on the link to where you said the exact same thing about the other product? Do so, and I will retract some of what I said. But it remains true, a big media circus != a simple blog posting.

nohone said,
I did discuss it - it is a blog post. Not some giant production where Microsoft hired a big PR firm to gather journalists around to look at a image viewing app, they wrote a blog posting. I guess Microsoft should just shut down their blogs because .Neo could be offended because they may make a post he does not approve of. Was it too much for NeoWin to write a new article to recap a blog posting? Perhaps, but I never bought into the it is not news, don't post it bit - this could be useful to people who do not know of, or regularly view that blog.

Nice way of spinning things around. Nowhere did I say I'm bothered by Neowin posting this, nor am I bothered by a blog post in itself. What does bother me is the severe lack of features Metro apps in general seem to contain. There's hardly anything there.

nohone said,
Mind passing on the link to where you said the exact same thing about the other product? Do so, and I will retract some of what I said. But it remains true, a big media circus != a simple blog posting.

Microsoft had its media circus about Windows 8 and its Metro apps. Several in fact. Most recent one involving Surface with Windows 8 taking a prominent role. Quick to forget? The other product on the other hand saw its first and so far only introduction at WWDC few weeks ago. Even there it was about more than just that one product.

You can find my comments regarding the lack of interesting new features in the thread of said product. Post #190, #259, #457, #528, #531 per example. I'm sure there are more, you search for them yourself.

Edited by .Neo, Jun 26 2012, 8:03pm :

.Neo said,

... nor am I bothered by a blog post ...

To quote your first post:

To be frank, these blog posts about Windows 8's Metro apps are starting to annoy me.


Microsoft had its media circus about Windows 8 and its Metro apps. Several in fact. Most recent one involving Surface. Quick to forget?

The focus of the latest was a device, announcing a new device.

I will need to look around for the posts you reference.

nohone said,
To quote your first post:

By "a" blog post. Blog posts in general are fine. These on the other hand keep touting features which are basic functionality and something we've been seeing for quite some time now. Not in the exact same form per se, but the end result is.

nohone said,
The focus of the latest was a device, announcing a new device.

With Windows 8 taking a central role, even its Metro apps got demoed. There were several Windows 8, as you call it, media circuses before that. Yet the other product only had one so far. I see you like to ignore the former and blow the latter out of proportion. Funny.

nohone said,
I will need to look around for the posts you reference.

The posts are in the OS X Mountain Lion thread, not the WWDC '12 one if you're having trouble finding them. You might find #190 most interesting.

PS #190 is the one where I say both Apple and Microsoft are recycling the same features over and over again only in a different package while pretending they've done something new.

.Neo said,

Apps in every modern OS can be updated. Nothing new or special about that. It would be nice if the the Metro apps had a little more oomph when the OS hits RTM next month though.

The OS *may* (I stress, may) hit RTM next month, doesn't mean it's being released to the public next month. Most people are expecting it to be available in September or October in certain channels.

The point being made which you seem to be missing is that the apps are lagging behind the development of the OS for obvious reasons, Microsoft have stated as much. They were still badged "App Preview" until very recently, which puts them pre-beta at that point. But all that doesn't matter because they have months extra time to work on them once the OS does hit RTM. Also the apps are not supposed to do everything you need, Microsoft would be running into anti-trust lawsuits again if they did.

One thing I hope they fix is the current inability to show photos stored on network drives, even if those drives are included in your pictures library. It's most annoying and Microsoft have confirmed they are aware of the limitation. In an age of Windows Home Server and many powers users having a separate PC at home to store their media on, this is a major limitation.

You don't think it's also important for users to be able to test the build-in apps in the form they'll actually be released in? Especially considering Metro is a new thing. Right know you end up with a completely wrong image of what it might actually turn out to be.

The whole anti-trust lawsuits thing actually seems like a valid reason. On the other hand they could just put the apps in the Marketplace instead of shipping them on the DVD and be done with it. Basically what they did with Windows Live Essentials.

I know Windows 8 hitting RTM won't mean it being available the next day to the general public.

.Neo said,
I mean, what -> actual <- interesting features does the Photos app have in terms of things you can do with, you know, the photos? Sure syncing with SkyDrive is nice, but cloud integration isn't exactly something shockingly new under the horizon..

Believe it or not, some consumers have never seen or heard of Windows 8 since the Surface hit the net last week.

This is just a basic example of how Metros and Widows 8 works with cloud based systems, (And in turn SD and camera cards)

IMHO i think the photo app is a great way to, funny thing, show off photos and the way Metro integrates with the OS and the Cloud.

Dont get me wrong, the app does nothing else apart from show photos and integrates with the cloud. But its just a gallery app, and some people on the internet haven't seen or used it like others have.

I have shown the gallery app off to some clients who have been amazed at how it syncs with FB, SD and the tablet it self.

So all in all it has some merit to complete the tasks required