Microsoft urges companies (again) to dump Windows XP

Microsoft has been trying to get large businesses to upgrade their PCs from Windows XP to Windows 7 for the past few months. The company made a plea back in July on its official Windows blog and did so again in September. Now a new post on the official Windows blog takes the time both celebrate Windows XP on the eve of its 10th anniversary while at the same time asking businesses once again to strongly consider updating to the Windows 7 operating system.

The post, written by Microsoft's Rich Reynolds, praises Windows XP for its many features that are now standard for anyone who wants to get work done on a PC. He states, "Windows XP offered a new user interface that helped people more easily find what they needed. One of the most notable advances was it democratized digital photography. Windows XP made it easy to get images from digital cameras, manage and print pictures from your PC, with broad support for a range of cameras and photo printers. Wireless also became the given with built-in support; plug and play became the standard. It was a great OS for its time."

But there are also things that Windows XP can't do but that Windows 7 can. Reynolds says, "I recently experienced this on a trip back from Dallas to Seattle. I had an urgent project I needed to work on and by using the in-flight WIFI, I was able to securely access a folder on my corporate network, work on my presentation, and collaborate with a colleague of mine who happened to be traveling in India at the time – all from 30,000 feet thanks to DirectAccess in Windows 7 Enterprise, and Lync. There’s no way I could have done this 10 years ago."

Reynolds repeats what Microsoft has said before that official support for Windows XP is scheduled to end on April 2014. But what if businesses want to just wait until Microsoft releases the upcoming Windows 8 OS? Reynolds takes a quote from the Gartner research group who said in a recent report, "With support for Windows XP ending in April 2014, we believe it would be dangerous for organizations now running XP to attempt to skip Windows 7 and move directly to Windows 8. Organizations running Windows XP and working on Windows 7 migrations: Continue as planned; do not switch to Windows 8."

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Of course they shouldn't wait for Windows 8. Because it sucks, and its interface is utterly non-conducive for the corporate work space.

I know a company that is still running Windows 2000 Professional as their computers OS, since the owner is a friend, I asked him about it, and it's all about cost, legacy software, and training, money he simply doesn't have in a tight economy. It's easy for MS to urge companies to upgrade, but their OS's are just too expensive for a small company to warrant the upgrade.

Azies said,
I know a company that is still running Windows 2000 Professional as their computers OS, since the owner is a friend, I asked him about it, and it's all about cost, legacy software, and training, money he simply doesn't have in a tight economy. It's easy for MS to urge companies to upgrade, but their OS's are just too expensive for a small company to warrant the upgrade.

W2k o.0

it is no longer supported

That's nice, Microsoft. Tell that to the companies who treat IT as an expense that has to be minimized with the attitude that, "If it works, why change?" Note the key word of "It works" and the missing word "well". Many times, the final IT decision isn't made by the IT department, but the accounting department, who looks at the costs of the upgrade including training. Then, there are those who resist the upgrades, stating quite firmly that they make money by selling stuff, not by parking their ass in a training course the whole day.

This is business reality.

1: Make it cheap to upgrade / free for 7 days (Windows 7, 7 days free to upgrade).
2: Stop supporting XP.
3: Work with the likes of HP and Dell to produce the "business" PC's with Windows 7 installed.

Businesses will soon upgrade.

Mr Spoon said,
1: Make it cheap to upgrade / free for 7 days (Windows 7, 7 days free to upgrade).
2: Stop supporting XP.
3: Work with the likes of HP and Dell to produce the "business" PC's with Windows 7 installed.

Businesses will soon upgrade.


The part of the world I live in, these companies have already been selling business PC's with Windows 7 for a very long time. We are actually paying for downgrade licences now instead

if windows 7 and windows 8 works great with pc, netbook or anything with less than 1gb of ram it would be great but it wont happen...

So XP its the only choice, start releasing a SP4

I already have migrated partially. I will completely when they allow disabling auto sort and auto arrange in the newer post Vista OSes (and some fix broken features).

Glassed Silver said,

Wow, modern!
I know places that run 3.x

GS:mac


In in the Royal Air Force, and most of our radars run on Windows NT 4, except for a few nav aids that run on Linux, even the Eurofighters run on NT 4. Good news though, next year we're upgrading the radar feeds to Windows XP!

The sooner XP dies. The faster us developers won't have to be held back by the crappy ancient OS. Sure, XP was great when it first came out, but nowadays it's garbage. No DirectX 10/11; new hardware don't support XP; 2TB+ HDD in XP == fail, can't use more than 3GB in XP. XP's 64bit sucks arse.

I'm sorry, but many people complain, that they are broke, apps don't work, or anything else. Why couldn't you have saved money for the OS, since Vista was announced? Have you bothered one bit to actually try to find a deal on the net, or other means? What app, that is left, that still doesn't support Vista/7? Good luck gamers, that still run XP. You miss out of Battlefield 3 for example, which doesn't support XP at all. What you going to do, when other games, that you want doesn't support XP?

We developers and other consumers are screwed over, because we have to wait for you, to wake up, and move on to a recent OS. We can't get 64bit applications like MSN, Browsers, etc, because you hold us back.

While, I do understand, that in a business setting, it will take time to upgrade to a new version. But, what are you going to do? Wait until Windows 49 to finally upgrade? Most of you will say, that you can't upgrade, because of your apps? Well, blame your developers for making OS dependent source code, ahnd not designing it better for future needs/upgrades.

dodgetigger said,
I don't think those companies care about DirectX 10/11.

You're obviously not aware of DirectCompute in DX11.
MANY companies care about DirectX 11, or they should.

Great for gpGPU solutions.

Give it up MS.

Businesses aren't going to budge if they don't have to. Even they are hurting from the economy!!

Not their fault MS decided to support it until 2014!!

My company is over 40,000 world wide, over 10 different brands, with multiple different AD and Novel domains. We started migrating to Win 7 late 2010, we are on track to be fully on Windows 7 by end of 2011.

Epic0range said,
My company is over 40,000 world wide, over 10 different brands, with multiple different AD and Novel domains. We started migrating to Win 7 late 2010, we are on track to be fully on Windows 7 by end of 2011.

Good. The sooner it dies the better.

There is a saying "dont fix whats not broke" while MS want companies to keep forking out on updates they are totally entitled to say "no, were quite happy saving our money" sure xp is out of date now compared to Windows 7 but it was a good OS imo well if you compare it to Vista anyhow lol. I can understand they are frustrated and have to keep doing patches because companies wount move on, but if they can save money and get the MS packages cheaper at a later date then why not? Makes total sense to me, if it works there is no need to replace it unless its seriously going to improve productivity/efficiency.

/loves googles spell check

Xoligy said,
There is a saying "dont fix whats not broke" while MS want companies to keep forking out on updates they are totally entitled to say "no, were quite happy saving our money" sure xp is out of date now compared to Windows 7 but it was a good OS imo well if you compare it to Vista anyhow lol. I can understand they are frustrated and have to keep doing patches because companies wount move on, but if they can save money and get the MS packages cheaper at a later date then why not? Makes total sense to me, if it works there is no need to replace it unless its seriously going to improve productivity/efficiency.

/loves googles spell check

Actually the saying is "If it's not broke, don't fix it!"

Xoligy said,
There is a saying "dont fix whats not broke" while MS want companies to keep forking out on updates they are totally entitled to say "no, were quite happy saving our money" sure xp is out of date now compared to Windows 7 but it was a good OS imo well if you compare it to Vista anyhow lol. I can understand they are frustrated and have to keep doing patches because companies wount move on, but if they can save money and get the MS packages cheaper at a later date then why not? Makes total sense to me, if it works there is no need to replace it unless its seriously going to improve productivity/efficiency.

/loves googles spell check

it is obsolete not outdated

there is a differences

Ci7 said,

it is obsolete not outdated

there is a differences


Most of the machinery used in factories is outdated within a few years but they keep it because its too expensive to keep upgrading every x years. If you watch shows like American Loggers they have machinery thats 20years old it works so there is no need to update!

XP is a dinosaur in computer terms. We can't wait to upgrade to Windows 7. I already have many users on it, but we use NAV 4.0 SP3 which won't work on 7. We plan to upgrade to NAV 2009 R2 in the next 3 months (been planning on this for 4 months now). Then we'll get everyone on 7. Until then Windows 7 users are on the terminal server to use that.

Who is going to pay all those people who wrote applications for XP to re-write them for Windows-7; and then have to re-do them for the touchy-feely, tablet-centric Windows-8? I have yet to see that Windows-8 is serious about servicing data-entry oriented keyboard-centric operations.

TsarNikky said,
Who is going to pay all those people who wrote applications for XP to re-write them for Windows-7; and then have to re-do them for the touchy-feely, tablet-centric Windows-8? I have yet to see that Windows-8 is serious about servicing data-entry oriented keyboard-centric operations.

What is there to re-write? It's source/binary compatible. The only you might have to change is, if you write kernel drivers, else there is nothing to really worry about. Well, unless your developers can't write/maintain code.

It's mainly the fact that they, as well as us. know that what we have now will work with the OS we have. Windows XP runs everything I want and or need as of now. And I will let it go when you pry it out my cold fingers. We don't want to change, either we lack the funds to do so or as a company it works how the company wants without frills.

It's mainly the fact that they, as well as us. know that what we have now will work with the OS we have. Windows XP runs everything I want and or need as of now. And I will let it go when you pry it out my cold fingers. We don't want to change, either we lack the funds to do so or as a company it works how the company wants without frills.

Lazerous Faewolfe said,
It's mainly the fact that they, as well as us. know that what we have now will work with the OS we have. Windows XP runs everything I want and or need as of now. And I will let it go when you pry it out my cold fingers. We don't want to change, either we lack the funds to do so or as a company it works how the company wants without frills.
The hard part with that stance is that hardware companies may be the ones forcing your fingers before Microsoft. The new hardware at work is coming in without XP support, in an Enterprise you can't use custom/hack drivers on production systems as your stability may be compromised.

I'm not trying to argue, I'm just saying to watch out for a party other than MS to start working on those fingers.

easier for Ms to say change but for big companies it takes a lot of troubleshooting to make sure all their programs and databases work as intended

zeta_immersion said,
easier for Ms to say change but for big companies it takes a lot of troubleshooting to make sure all their programs and databases work as intended

And they've had YEARS to do it...

zeta_immersion said,
easier for Ms to say change but for big companies it takes a lot of troubleshooting to make sure all their programs and databases work as intended
I'm fighting this right now. I am more frustrated with the app owners and dev teams than MS though. Why write for .Net 1.1 and IE6? Move to a browser agnostic model where possible and adopt modern coding languages where possible! .Net 1.1 and IE6 may work, but it doesn't mean it is a good thing to stick with.

What shocks me the most is the outside vendors... they are still pushing apps with requirements like those noted above.

zeke009 said,
I'm fighting this right now. I am more frustrated with the app owners and dev teams than MS though. Why write for .Net 1.1 and IE6? Move to a browser agnostic model where possible and adopt modern coding languages where possible! .Net 1.1 and IE6 may work, but it doesn't mean it is a good thing to stick with.

What shocks me the most is the outside vendors... they are still pushing apps with requirements like those noted above.

Same problem at my job. So many cheapo schools around the country refuse to upgrade out of XP and IE6 so we are stuck having to still support it with our web software. QA/Testing finds more problems in our software on that setup than anything else. In most cases, it runs better on an iPad or Android tablet and we didn't even intend for it to be ran on those originally.

zeta_immersion said,
easier for Ms to say change but for big companies it takes a lot of troubleshooting to make sure all their programs and databases work as intended

And MS do a lot to help enterprise customers with this. There is a document which contains over 25,000 applications compatible with Windows 7. There are also thousands of pages of documentation on technet and msdn to show customers what needs to be done to get up to speed.

The investment Microsoft have in tools, procedures and guidelines for OS upgrades would surprise you.

There are entire departments set up to testing third party software on newer OSes.
Microsoft report their findings to the third party application vendors when problems are discovered in those applications.

There are also 'patches' or 'shims' that MS create for legacy products to resolve compatability issues with older software on newer windows OSes where MS API changes break compatibility.

So no, it's not 'easy' for them to say that. The investment is huge, and all Enterprise customers need to do is participate.

My enterprise is upgrading now. We have software from every single major vendor out there. Some of our Enterprise applicaions use shims, while in other cases we are upgrading to newer versions of third party software.

It's taken two full years of planning and testing and we're at about a 10% roll out thus far.

Our biggest issue is the browser. Enterprise application providers took their two-tiered desktop apps and turned them into three tiered browser apps that only work in IE6, with no clear upgrade path that MS offer, and no convenience licensing upgrades that MS offer.

Even with software assurance and support licensing we are still spending tens of millions with these other vendors to get a version our organization can use in another browser.

it'll be sad to see her go, but outdated technology can't last forever, XP had a great run, 2001 - 2014, for any piece of technology even released today, a 13 year run is impressive.

Dale said,
it'll be sad to see her go, but outdated technology can't last forever, XP had a great run, 2001 - 2014, for any piece of technology even released today, a 13 year run is impressive.

IMHO XP is on life support ever since 2006…

lunarworks said,
Of course Microsoft wants businesses to dump it. They want to sell more software licences.

Let's hear the outcry when Microsoft no longer offers security updates for XP…

lunarworks said,
Of course Microsoft wants businesses to dump it. They want to sell more software licences.

Large businesses have open licenses, so they wouldn't pay more for the new OS. However, they will have to fork out a lot more for the new hardware, the staff to be trained on the new OS, the time spent designing a new desktop environment and customize it to their needs, the time spent upgrading PC's and rolling out the new OS, possibly upgrade the backend as well, if not compliant. Oh yes, I almost forgot, test every single application they have, to make sure it actually works with the new OS.

Yup... and at a time where the economy is in the crapper and companies are counting every penny...do they really think a company is going to spend thousands to upgrade an already working system?

Odom said,

Large businesses have open licenses, so they wouldn't pay more for the new OS. However, they will have to fork out a lot more for the new hardware, the staff to be trained on the new OS, the time spent designing a new desktop environment and customize it to their needs, the time spent upgrading PC's and rolling out the new OS, possibly upgrade the backend as well, if not compliant. Oh yes, I almost forgot, test every single application they have, to make sure it actually works with the new OS.

Because technology MOVES ON. You have to make the jump eventually.

Yea ok, stop charging licence fees to connect YOUR desktop operating systems to YOUR server platforms and we'll think about it...

ThePitt said,
no money. OK?.

Yet, you couldn't afford to save up money for each paycheck since Vista was released? That's just an excuse.

Windows XP is the troll of modern OS's for Microsoft!

I still like it, however I've moved all my systems to 7/8 already, always keeping XP fresh and ready though for those difficult legacy games.

Glassed Silver:mac

Glassed Silver said,
Windows XP is the troll of modern OS's for Microsoft!

I still like it, however I've moved all my systems to 7/8 already, always keeping XP fresh and ready though for those difficult legacy games.

Glassed Silver:mac

Why would you move your system to Windows 8 - it's not even beta?

Glassed Silver said,
Windows XP is the troll of modern OS's for Microsoft!

I still like it, however I've moved all my systems to 7/8 already, always keeping XP fresh and ready though for those difficult legacy games.

Glassed Silver:mac

I remember having to keep a copy of Win98 SE only for running tony hawk pro skater 2 and my logitech force feedback wheel which connected thru a serial port! haha

Mouettus said,

I remember having to keep a copy of Win98 SE only for running tony hawk pro skater 2 and my logitech force feedback wheel which connected thru a serial port! haha

Only reason I even have an XP VM is because my RC flight simulators run better in XP.

KingCrimson said,

Why would you move your system to Windows 8 - it's not even beta?


When did I say I moved anything?
My two Macs run Windows 7, my netbook - to tinker with it - runs Windows 8.
I barely ever use my netbook apart from presenting photos to partners/etc or using it as a portable charging station for my iPhone via USB.

The rest is playing with new Windows technology as bonus. Doesn't make sense?

GS:mac

Glassed Silver said,

When did I say I moved anything?
My two Macs run Windows 7, my netbook - to tinker with it - runs Windows 8.
I barely ever use my netbook apart from presenting photos to partners/etc or using it as a portable charging station for my iPhone via USB.

The rest is playing with new Windows technology as bonus. Doesn't make sense?

GS:mac

Glassed Silver said,
Windows XP is the troll of modern OS's for Microsoft!

I still like it, however I've moved all my systems to 7/8 already, always keeping XP fresh and ready though for those difficult legacy games.

Glassed Silver:mac

^ Right there ^

Azies said,

^ Right there ^


Sorry, I somehow misread and understood you.
I had the weird thinking you meant moving to W8 fulltime in productivity environments.

Glassed Silver:mac

KingCrimson said,

2014.

isnt that after 2 extentions..

I just dont think alot of the companies see the value in updating their computers.. microsoft is going to have to change to a supscription model one of these days and make it super cheap.
Or atleast make their new OS's work really well together and in a similar way so that companies can slowly phase in new computers without using alot of tech support to make the switch.

Lachlan said,

isnt that after 2 extentions..

I just dont think alot of the companies see the value in updating their computers.. microsoft is going to have to change to a supscription model one of these days and make it super cheap.
Or atleast make their new OS's work really well together and in a similar way so that companies can slowly phase in new computers without using alot of tech support to make the switch.


they already do have a subscription model its called Microsoft Open Value Subscription Program.... you get all upgrade for free.

still1 said,

they already do have a subscription model its called Microsoft Open Value Subscription Program.... you get all upgrade for free.

Which has a yearly fee that is over close to or over $100 a year per computer depending on what you get. Still cheaper to buy the software for $300-400 total and keep the computer with its out dated software that still does its job for 10 years than pay $100 a year for 10 years.

ILikeTobacco said,

Which has a yearly fee that is over close to or over $100 a year per computer depending on what you get. Still cheaper to buy the software for $300-400 total and keep the computer with its out dated software that still does its job for 10 years than pay $100 a year for 10 years.


do u even read what i replied to????

Lachlan said,

isnt that after 2 extentions..

I just dont think alot of the companies see the value in updating their computers.. microsoft is going to have to change to a supscription model one of these days and make it super cheap.
Or atleast make their new OS's work really well together and in a similar way so that companies can slowly phase in new computers without using alot of tech support to make the switch.

LOL You think people are ****ed at MS now? "Wait what?! I can't access my files unless I pay HOW MUCH?! -sue sue sue sue sue sue SUE-

KingCrimson said,

2014.

wrong , originally it supposed to be unsupported in aug 2011 (ten year support cycle ) , Microsoft extended roughly 2 and half years for pro and even more for home edition (7+ year more support )