Microsoft Windows Vista is now on MSDN & Connect

Thanks Andareed who posted this news in our forums, yes thats right MSDN users need no longer to wait.

Initial reports are that this is different from the leaked version that has been available for about a week on all sorts of torrent sites, the hash is different:

en_windows_vista_x86_dvd_X12-34293.iso = b71e04564ca22e4d9928e59298eff87cf62b382b
LRMCFRE_EN_DVD.iso (BillGates) = b82590481755ba3420e7314bf82b8916a90963b5

This single download includes the following Windows Vista editions:

  • Windows Vista Business
  • Windows Vista Business N
  • Windows Vista Home Basic
  • Windows Vista Home Basic N
  • Windows Vista Home Premium
  • Windows Vista Starter
  • Windows Vista Ultimate
The product key used to install Windows Vista will determine which edition will be installed. The product keys used to install Windows Vista Business N, Windows Vista Home Basic N, and Windows Vista Starter are not currently available.

Also US testers may find an invitation to download any version of Vista final they choose (a product key is then supplied for the version specified) my source tells me that international users will start to see this appearing on their connect page within the next day or so. It's unclear if every tester will get a full version of their choice. We'll update this when Microsoft gets back to us.

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i read that the x64 version of vista is a seperate download and its available on technet n not on msdn.
anyone got any torrent? any link? im sick of downloading so many versions. can anyone confirm a working link of vista x86 from msdn or technet pls

I'm still not able to get it off MSDN.

Do they not release it to Academic Alliance until closer to retail or something.

I tried talking to the Online Chats and things, I kept getting different stories.

Hopefully the MSDN AA where I live will be able to give a clearer story, but I've seen quite a few people where it's not available to them.

I never even saw it available for MSDNAA, regardless of them saying it would be made available to us.

What's the deal, I'm seeing a lot of people not being able to access it off MSDN.

I guess it will come back later
Can anyone tell me the hash code for the 64bit version in order to check the integrity of the file ?

You are all aware that, if it is like every other version of Windows to date, you will have to wait one Service Pack before it becomes stable ?

Just be patient. It's still morning in the US of A and everybody is probably downloading this thing. I think that within a couple of hours it'll work again.
I had the same thing this morning : Just keep on trying to resume the download. Once it has started : do NOT suspend :-)

GreetZ,
BuRn

Usually I do not shout, but

The keys for the Ultimate Edition of Windows VISTA ARE AVAILABLE FOR MSDN SUBSCRIBERS

phieuw... our prayers have been heard by the gods of Microsoft LoL

I can't remember for sure but I think it's 5 machines.
But they are all for testing purposes anyway, not permanent use, so they kind of expect you to be switching it around from machine to machine.

Quote - nowimnothing said @ #55.1
I can't remember for sure but I think it's 5 machines.
But they are all for testing purposes anyway, not permanent use, so they kind of expect you to be switching it around from machine to machine.

It used to be 10 activations for MSDN OS's, but this may have changed with Vista. I wouldn't worry too much, we have individual MSDN licenses at work, but were only using 1 set of license keys. We have a copy of XP which must have been activated over 50 times....

Argh! Got to 90% now can not connect. Why didn't Microsoft release this as a torrent (using their own Passport Login controlled tracker). That way the only load on their servers would be the initial tracker queries and the initial seeding of the ISO. Once it was in the wild enough, they could simply stop seeding....

Nah, I was downloading fine at a steady 150-200kbps and when I last checked I got thus:

It's not reconnecting either. Guh.

Clik,
Do you use the Microsoft downloader? Guess then you can resume.
But..; ooooooooh then I see : probably you cannot connect anymore due to overload of the servers :-)

I have a stupid question too!!! java script:emoticon(':P','')
java script:emoticon(':P','')

I've just downloaded the Vista DVD image from MSDN. Eventually (hopefully) I'll get the key for Ultimate or whatever version I'll want to install. Will this have to be activated? I told you I had a stupid question!!!

Thanks!

I got good news already : when entering no key, you got an option window in which you can enter the version you want to install...

Now my question is : will the key for the Ultimate version be available for all MSDN subscribers (minimum OS level)?

I am going to reinstall (takes about 30 min) and I'll try without the product key. I've seen that on the DVD, there is some vile that says "InstallVistaUltimate". So it is there for sure.
I'll be back within an hour

Clik,
I know. But the DVD contains all versions. It is the key that defines which version is installed. Anyone knows if, when no key is entered, all options of ultimate are available.
My problem is this : I installed the Vista Home Premium edition for testing some software. However, this edition can NOT join a domain, which is a major problem for me.
On the other hand, I can install the Business edition, but this one lacks the multimedia thingies which I need for testing. So.... (And I do not understand in the first place why a home premium edition is not able to join a domain. Weird way of thinking from microsoft...)

GreetZ,
BuRn

Quote - RealBuRn said @ #44
Clik,
I know. But the DVD contains all versions. It is the key that defines which version is installed. Anyone knows if, when no key is entered, all options of ultimate are available.
My problem is this : I installed the Vista Home Premium edition for testing some software. However, this edition can NOT join a domain, which is a major problem for me.
On the other hand, I can install the Business edition, but this one lacks the multimedia thingies which I need for testing. So.... (And I do not understand in the first place why a home premium edition is not able to join a domain. Weird way of thinking from microsoft...)

GreetZ,
BuRn

Hm... maybe because home users don't have a Windows Server also at home to run Active Directory and domain.

Home is for small workgroups only and business is for domains.

If you want everything install Ultimate. If you don't have the key yet, just click next when asked for a key and select that you don't want to enter a key at that time. Then select that you want to install Ultimate.
This will work for 30 days. I'm sure that Microsoft will have fixed the issue with the Ultimate key by then.

Quote - ralfs said @ #44.1

Hm... maybe because home users don't have a Windows Server also at home to run Active Directory and domain.

Home is for small workgroups only and business is for domains.

If you want everything install Ultimate. If you don't have the key yet, just click next when asked for a key and select that you don't want to enter a key at that time. Then select that you want to install Ultimate.
This will work for 30 days. I'm sure that Microsoft will have fixed the issue with the Ultimate key by then.


Sorry Burn, as is said above.. what I mean is, install it without the key and then you can pop it in once they've fixed the prob next week (I hope!)

I'm in same boat as you with regards to testing and needing the AD option..

Yeeeeeeeeha...

I was able to download the DVD. But... I still have this freaky problem to retrieve a key for Vista Ultimate.
Does anyone knows when Microsoft will solve this problem? Or is a key for Vista Ultimate not available for MSDN subscribers?
Anyway, can I install Vista Home Premium and then later upgrade to Ultimate by just changing the product key (I don't know why, but this seems like a stupid question and I expect "no" as answer, but hey... who doesn't ask can't win, is it?)

GreetZ,
BuRn

guys ... thanks for some credit on those hashes :\

yeah downloaded it last night and it's running great with the major exception of the IE icon on the desktop. or the lack of

Also getting:

Keys for one or more products are unavailable to satisfy this request at this time. Please try again later or contact customer support.

Please try again later.

Thank you for your patience.

:(

It's the Ulitmate key problem. If you don't want ultimate, go to 'product keys' along the bar at the top and then select to generate all the keys for vista bar Ultimate and you'll get them.

You can install a product key up to 30 days after, so use the RC2 key and then change. I think that'll work, i'll try it later because I'm still only 56% down on the d/l!

Downloading at approx 1900KB/sec, however when I request keys through MSDN it throws up an error. I will try again later.


Application Error

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Error while requesting Product Keys. Please try again later or contact customer support.

Please try again later.

Thank you for your patience.

does vista has bootscreen logo? during boot?
becouse I see only progressbar and label 'Microsoft Corporation"
the same - when i`m hibernating my computer - there is only black screen and nothing else:(

That's the beauty of living in Bulgaria! It's midnight or earlier in the states, and I'm downloading at a pretty good speed!

...and away we go!

The reason the WinBeta release differs is that it is a custom, hand-made AllInOne job of attempting to mesh x86 / x64 builds onto the same DVD. Rumour has it that the x86 / x64 ISO images used to create the AIO are the same as those on MSDN now.

Z:FilesMSDNOperating_SystemsWindows_vistax86fre>fciv.exe vista_6000.16386.061101-2205_x86fre_client-lrmcfre_en_dvd.iso
// File Checksum Integrity Verifier version 2.05.
//
//
// File Checksum Integrity Verifier version 2.05.
//
Z:FilesMSDNOperating_SystemsWindows_vistax86fre>fciv.exe -sha1 vista_6000.16386.061101-2205_x86fre_client-lrmcfre_en_dvd.iso

b71e04564ca22e4d9928e59298eff87cf62b382b vista_6000.16386.061101-2205_x86fre_client-lrmcfre_en_dvd.iso

Whilst the WinBeta "version" does seem to be sourced from finalised code, personally, for a primary OS, I'd prefer to have a "legit" ISO from MS thanks

Winbeta and Bill gates are not the final code. That is the difference. One last bug had to be fixed before releasing on MSDN and Connect. Thats why it was delayed a week.

And of course the Bill Gates version and MSDN dont have the same hash? Even if it where real. Why?

Because they are two different builds!!!!!! Bill Gates version is a Windows Vista Ultimate and MSDN is Windows Vista Enterprise Edition build. So of course they are different. But that does not matter since both WinBeta and the Bill Gates version is not the final code.....

So those of you using either version I highly recommend you uninstall right now and install either the build from microsoft connect or MSDN. Or just wait a few hours for both to make their way around most P2P and torrents sites. Takes awhile to upload....

Quote - war said @ #34
Winbeta and Bill gates are not the final code. That is the difference. One last bug had to be fixed before releasing on MSDN and Connect. Thats why it was delayed a week.

Sorry, those last bugs were quashed by the end of October. 6000.16386.061101-2205 is the final version number -- look at the numbers closely. It went into escrow and was not touched again after Nov 1....

Quote - Packman said @ #30.1
The MSDN web servers are slow, however, once I actually started downloading, my line has been maxed out (~500kB)

MSDN still nada and Connect is also DOA from here.

Just a little bit...

Should i have received an email by now if i was going to get the free vista.

Location, UK

guys you can obtain a key for ultimate and Home Premium, just request it..well at least under my MSDN account...what are other seeing on MSDN

Quote - dahuk said @ #21
Hello. Could anyone please give me the inviation ID so i could download a copy of vista. Thank You.

you mad lol

Quote - dahuk said @ #21
Hello. Could anyone please give me the inviation ID so i could download a copy of vista. Thank You.

lol it doesn't work that way, mate. You have to of been an official MS (Vista) BETA tester and submitted at least 1 bug report. Unless you have done that (which seems doubtful) the only way your getting Vista is waiting till 2007 like the rest of us. The only other legal way of getting a free copy of Vista is either been an MSDN subscriber or if your a student at a University that is a MSDNAA member.

Sweet, according to the staff running the MSDNAA on our campus (Carleton University), Vista will be up in the next two weeks. The main issue is the 3GB size of the ISO or something.

I owe my gratitude to Neowin for this one. If I wasn't a member, I would never got the chance to join the beta and get a free copy of Ultimate!

Lucky devil How you guys get in these BETAs anyway? I really wanna know! I've tried many times and MS just rejects me :(...sure I'm grateful for the public BETAs but still be nice to be involved in a Windows BETA as an offical testers...I can only dream..

Someone let me know if im wrong here - Microsoft gave away a full, free, non-time limited copy to active beta testers?

Because if thats true, kudos to MS. Thats the right way to reward people who helped get Vista on track.

This is so nice of them. And to think I just got done installing 5744 on my machine.

Can't wait to do this tonight. Plus my cable internet ISP just upped my speed to 10mbps.....my download should be insane.

So if i am able to get this free copy, will i get an email from microsoft or will it just appear on the connect site.

[size=3][color=#000099]Hello, where will i see this on the connect page, and would i have had to participate in a specific program?

Oooh certainly not! Microsoft is making it free to everyone that simply logs into Connect!


Of course you had to participate in the Vista beta program, and file bugs also.

damn, going to take a week before they would send me the key.. wait.. i'm confused... on connect I see

Title Windows Vista Final English DVD Images (x86 and x64)
Release Date 11/15/2006
Size 6,175.14 MB
Version 6.0
Category Build
Milestone RTM
Description
Final media images for Windows Vista English DVD's

vista_6000.16386.061101-2205_x86fre_client-LRMCFRE_EN_DVD.iso

CRC Value: 0xC11363AA

vista_6000.16386.061101-2205_x64fre_client-LRMCxFRE_EN_DVD.iso

CRC Value: 0xCE211A58

is this the same version on MSDN?

btw time limit still apply to this one?

I login to connect and see nothing but the beta builds ( I am in Canada but I don't think that matters? ).
I wonder if this is for certain testers only?

sweet! downloading it!

one question though,.. which key to use? "5342 and Up Ultimate"? because,.. if i request new key, there is no option to get a key for Final Ultimate version

I got a choice in connect to download either buisiness or ultimate (ultimate download requires you to have a DVD drive)

Quote - guylaroche said @ #4.1
I thought they all needed DVD-ROM drives?

They do, all versions of Vista are exactly the same far as I understand, all your really paying for (or in this case been given) is a serial key that tells the installer which parts of Vista to install. This makes it much easier for MS to patch Windows as there is technically just one version of it and it makes upgrading easier as well, e.g. if you buy Vista Home and decide to upgrade to Vista Ultimate you just purchase an Ultimate upgrade key from MS then just update your current key and throw in your Vista DVD and your install will be upgraded for you. (I think that is how it works?)

I installed the AIO from WinBeta (running the 30 day trial currently) and I wonder is there is a difference between the two versions? How could one tell? I don't think that because there was a hash mismatch means that the versions are different because even Microsoft admitted that the BillGates version would become obsolete (meaning its probably legit if they mentioned it). Any way to tell the exact build numbers? If someone installs this one, please post your build numbert

Quote - Neobond said @ #3.1
There is a difference as you can see from the hash. I'm glad I waited..
There was a difference too between XP Retail and XP MSDN. It doesn't mean anything.

First imake that leaked almost couple of weeks ago into certain FTP servers is identical to this MSDN version. Billgates rip was made from that, they did something to migcore.dll and install.wim so the CRC is different. And again WinBeta release is identical to MSDN version. So only Billgates was bad.

The only difference between billGates version and MSDN is that at file offset 0x4E932855for BillGates, the bytes are 0xFD while it is 0xFF for the MSDN version. So if could be just a packing error. If u change the bytes, u get the same hash as the msdn version.

I don't have it yet but then again I'm in Canada if that matters at all. I submitted some bugs..maybe they were already validated/fixed.

It is Microsoft. I submitted *critical* bug report for Visual Studio 2005 at launch time, and their answer was that the bug was already fixed but it will be released in the next Service Pack of Visual Studio. This service pack is still not out yet. (If it takes the same time to put the service pack out as the one for 2003, we still have 2 years to wait).

The only difference between billGates version and MSDN is that at file offset 0x4E932855for BillGates, the bytes are 0xFD while it is 0xFF for the MSDN version. So if could be just a packing error. If u change the bytes, u get the same hash as the msdn version.