Microsoft: Xbox One has sold more than 2 million consoles in 18 days

Microsoft has announced that it has sold over 2 million Xbox One consoles in 18 days. This is a reassuring sign for the company who made a bold bet with its device to include a Kinect with every console and to deeply bake in non-gaming features such as the ability to watch TV and browse the web.

The company states that the console has sold out at most major retailers where the device is available, which is no surprise as the console was in high demand, and that they are working quickly to keep the channels full ahead of the holidays.

The gaming aspect, which came under scrutiny after its initial announcement, has proven to be a moot point as the company says that “39 million Xbox One achievements unlocked and 595 million total Gamerscore achieved.”

At peak demand, Amazon said that the Xbox One was selling at a rate of over 1000 consoles per minute. That’s a phenomenal rate for selling a device that costs $499 and clearly shows that the Xbox has a loyal following.

It will be interesting to watch how Microsoft and Sony tout the success of their consoles as each company hopes to establish the dominant position for this generations console war. In reality, as long as Sony and Microsoft keep going head-to-head with each other, the consumer comes out on top. 

Source: Microsoft | Review: Xbox One

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Pretty impressive numbers. Great system too, these will sell like crazy once people start seeing them in homes. One of those devices that advertises itself.

ozzy76 said,
It hasn't even been out for 3 weeks, much too early to call it a flop or success.

people already knew that 6 month prior release

Whether Microsoft or Sony launched in 1 country or 50, it would still be 2 million units. 2 million units just means that this is the number of units they were able to supply, and demand exceeded that number.

The only conclusion that I draw is that fans are hungry for a new console, are willing to pay big bucks, and that both companies have tooled to about the same manufacturing capability. Oh yes, and with numbers like this, another generation of console is pretty much inevitable

Yay for gaming!

Demand > Supply

It won't be for a few months until the dust clears (and the supply catches up with the demand) until we know who's selling more consoles.

I love the trend that I am seeing negativity towards Xbox that got repeated over and over by Sony fan on Microsoft positive article. Examples are RROD, includes Kinect, behind pay wall or resolution 1080p. The fact that none of those matter to xbox fan are killing them inside.

Only fanboys like to hear only the good about some product. Regular customers want to look at the whole scene and buy the best product of the market.

In this case, Xbox 360 was the king of the hill (and it will be for at least 1 year more). However, right now, with the xbox one,MS is struggling with Sony.

How can Microsoft is struggling when Xbox one cost $100 more than PS4 and yet each of the consoles sells 2+ millions unit?

Brony said,
Only fanboys like to hear only the good about some product. Regular customers want to look at the whole scene and buy the best product of the market.

In this case, Xbox 360 was the king of the hill (and it will be for at least 1 year more). However, right now, with the xbox one,MS is struggling with Sony.

They could have launched in more countries if they wanted... they curtailed from original list of 21 to 13... Also remember PS4 was for sale in only US & Canada and then 30 countries for 2 days to reach 2.1 million...
I say they both are kinda neck-to-neck

visu9211 said,
They could have launched in more countries if they wanted... they curtailed from original list of 21 to 13... Also remember PS4 was for sale in only US & Canada and then 30 countries for 2 days to reach 2.1 million...
I say they both are kinda neck-to-neck
Why does 2 days matter? They were sold out in less than 1.

Houtei said,
Why does 2 days matter? They were sold out in less than 1.

This is true. The number of days on sale in those countries doesn't mean much when 95%+ of the stock was likely allocated to pre-orders.

It's early days, guys. Microsoft will likely fix any problems. My girlfriend and I have no trouble with our One, and her Ladyship's used Kinect for fitness as long as I can remember it existing. On our One it logs us in on our accounts as long as we're not stood directly together cuddled up (it has messed up a few times in those cases).

It's the first time I've been a launch day early adopter, but I do know it will get better. Look at the lessons Microsoft learned with the early 360 hardware. The One stays barely warm after a few hours of Forza 5, it does feel cooler than our 360 S after the same period of time.

Give the Xbox One time to be roadtested and improved....

spenser.d said,
And here everyone though Xbox was doomed and PS4 was going to kick its ***. Seems to be keeping up just fine.

Things would have much different has MS not reversed their initial stupid plans about Xbone

-adrian- said,
Why even bother trusting in numbers a marketing department produces?

Here's something to ponder... would you also distrust the numbers if they said PS4 had a massive sales lead?

Or just play Xbox One games in 1080p like Forza 5, why do you think just because some developers released their games in lesser res that's all the Xbox one can do?

So if I release an indie game at 800 x 600 on both consoles does that mean we can start saying that's the maximum res of them both??

kravex said,
Or just play Xbox One games in 1080p like Forza 5, why do you think just because some developers released their games in lesser res that's all the Xbox one can do?

So if I release an indie game at 800 x 600 on both consoles does that mean we can start saying that's the maximum res of them both??

There is a reason why those developers release their games at lesser resolution. It's because the Xbox One is incapable of handling the games at 1080p

MindTrickz said,

There is a reason why those developers release their games at lesser resolution. It's because the Xbox One is incapable of handling the games at 1080p

Isn't Forza 5 gonna be 1080p/60fps?

TheBlueRaja said,
I love the Xbox One, you can hook up your PS4 through it and play games in 1080P.

PC gamer here, what's 1080p? oh that low resolution from the last decade. remember those days!!!

TheBlueRaja said,
I love the Xbox One, you can hook up your PS4 through it and play games in 1080P.

I guess if you want to totally annoy yourself with the latency, sure.

MindTrickz said,

There is a reason why those developers release their games at lesser resolution. It's because the Xbox One is incapable of handling the games at 1080p

Erm, no. More accurate is that it is developers who are incapable of writing games capable of running at 1080p. Forza proves it is possible, and indeed the console is fully capable of it.

Xilo said,
And how much has the PS4 sold?

Wii U sold 2 million until December 31st.

XBO sold 2 million until December 9.

PS4 sold 2.1 million until December 1st.

Audioboxer said,

Wii U sold 2 million until December 31st.

XBO sold 2 million until December 9.

PS4 sold 2.1 million until December 1st.


Why copy that pointless comparison from Gaf. They started selling at different times. Those dates are meaningless except for total known sales and that doesn't need to be qualified with "until blah blah".

BajiRav said,

Why copy that pointless comparison from Gaf. They started selling at different times. Those dates are meaningless except for total known sales and that doesn't need to be qualified with "until blah blah".

Its just sales facts, calm down.

BajiRav said,

Why copy that pointless comparison from Gaf. They started selling at different times. Those dates are meaningless except for total known sales and that doesn't need to be qualified with "until blah blah".

It does because they're different dates...

For scale, Apple sold nine million iPhone 5s in 3 days.

On the other hand, it looks like the last gen consoles (360, PS3, Wii) sold about 300 - 600k in their first two weeks, so, I don't know, take whatever you want from that. Either people have way more disposable income these days, or supply chains are better, or something. Certainly looks like both the One and PS4 are going to be successes.

For scale, most people bought the iPhone 5S for $199 up front with contract or even less if they got a trade in with their old phone..the Xbox One is over double that amount

threetonesun said,
For scale, Apple sold nine million iPhone 5s in 3 days.

On the other hand, it looks like the last gen consoles (360, PS3, Wii) sold about 300 - 600k in their first two weeks, so, I don't know, take whatever you want from that. Either people have way more disposable income these days, or supply chains are better, or something. Certainly looks like both the One and PS4 are going to be successes.


For scale, most people don't buy iPhones at its sticker price.

threetonesun said,
Every iPad opening weekend has out sold both of these consoles, as well, while you guys are all riled up.

For some of you that are comparing the sales number of iPhone / iPad and gaming console, one must look at the demographic market between iPhone and Xbox / PS4 to see the difference.

Second, yes we are all riled up because of the sheer stupidity of these type of comparison.

Third, Think before you comment or respond.

and before the sony trolls arrive saying sony did this last week, remember sony launched a week early and currently sony is in more markets than MSFT after they launched in latin America and Europe. so if sony isn't getting good numbers something is wrong.

Sony launched a week later in Europe though.

This is better news for the XB1 though as it costs more yet just as may people have bought it. If it was the same price as PS4 it would easily outsell it.

visu9211 said,
Read again... Sony took 16 days to sell 2.1 million... During which it was available in 2 countries (US/Canda) since Nov 15 and avaliable in 30 more countries for 2 (Launched on 29th Nov).
Xbox had been available in 13 countries from the start and took 18 days to reach 2 million

http://www.eurogamer.net/artic...-over-2-1-million-worldwide

They both sold well go enjoy your console. Oh wait ps4 doesnt have any games to play... oh i see why your all here now.... you could atleast spend your time on say a PS4 thread.

Edited by zhangm, Dec 11 2013, 5:48pm :

visu9211 said,
Read again... Sony took 16 days to sell 2.1 million... During which it was available in 2 countries (US/Canda) since Nov 15 and avaliable in 30 more countries for 2 (Launched on 29th Nov).
Xbox had been available in 13 countries from the start and took 18 days to reach 2 million

http://www.eurogamer.net/artic...-over-2-1-million-worldwide

so let me get this straight, 100 dollars cheaper, and a PR blitz and all they have on MSFT is 100K consoles? pffff.

NoClipMode said,
Sony launched a week later in Europe though.

This is better news for the XB1 though as it costs more yet just as may people have bought it. If it was the same price as PS4 it would easily outsell it.


Yeah, I wish the XBox were priced a bit cheaper. If it where, it would have really trounced Sony... It's a shame Microsoft didn't consider this. With Sony's current financial situation, they may not have recovered either, so they were lucky.

Kinect speech needs a major overhaul. It isn't that good. Don't understand why Microsoft can't adopt natural language for their platforms either.

AWilliams87 said,
Kinect speech needs a major overhaul. It isn't that good. Don't understand why Microsoft can't adopt natural language for their platforms either.

Do ever people make atleast one +ve comment about MS Success. Every time I see either trolls or hatred.

major overhaul? you mean this notion of cloud computing and updates which will keep improving it over time? If only such thing existed...

nitins60 said,

Do ever people make atleast one +ve comment about MS Success. Every time I see either trolls or hatred.


I'm saying Kinect is a waste of time if it doesn't function well. In this case, they may as well not include it and shave off $100 being that Microsoft values market share.

Mr.XXIV said,
Oh, PS4 totally has better speech functions.

/s


They don't bundle it. Microsoft made a big deal about Kinect, but it doesn't function that well. Each time a friend of mine walks into the room, it logs me in believing it were me. That's very subpar.

Mr.XXIV said,
Oh, PS4 totally has better speech functions.

/s


If the Xbox One can't implement it well, why implement it at all? Kinect is a $100 gimmick. Enjoy.
PS4 doesn't need gimmicks to sell

The problem with a natural language system is it won't work with things not specifically designed for it. The speech system is designed to push buttons for you even if the app doesn't know about speech. Once you understand how it works, it works great. I use it constantly.

AWilliams87 said,

They don't bundle it. Microsoft made a big deal about Kinect, but it doesn't function that well. Each time a friend of mine walks into the room, it logs me in believing it were me. That's very subpar.

I have to say, I don't have this issue at all.

There are 3 people in my house and each are recognized perfectly.
And when non-registered people are around, it ignores them.

Do you both have similar physical appearance and stature?

AWilliams87 said,
Kinect speech needs a major overhaul. It isn't that good. Don't understand why Microsoft can't adopt natural language for their platforms either.

I think you may have responded to the wrong article. This post is about xbox 1 sales reaching 2 million. I think the pros and cons post is a few days old already.. check there!

Spicoli said,
The problem with a natural language system is it won't work with things not specifically designed for it. The speech system is designed to push buttons for you even if the app doesn't know about speech. Once you understand how it works, it works great. I use it constantly.

I know how it works, that's why I'm saying it doesn't work well. When you say Xbox select or the select menu appears, then it could revert back to selecting those on screen buttons. But top level commands could easily be spoken to in natural language. As far as I know, none of Microsoft platforms offer built-in natural language processing.

SlasherKG said,

I have to say, I don't have this issue at all.

There are 3 people in my house and each are recognized perfectly.
And when non-registered people are around, it ignores them.

Do you both have similar physical appearance and stature?


We don't at all. Three people may be too small a sample size. Try getting a few more people in the room and see if it logs you in.

AWilliams87 said,
Each time a friend of mine walks into the room, it logs me in believing it were me. That's very subpar.

I have yet to have that happen. Did you have sufficient lighting in the room when you first told it what face was yours? Ours picks up the different users with profiles on the system in the same room with no problem as they come and go.

AWilliams87 said,

I know how it works, that's why I'm saying it doesn't work well. When you say Xbox select or the select menu appears, then it could revert back to selecting those on screen buttons. But top level commands could easily be spoken to in natural language. As far as I know, none of Microsoft platforms offer built-in natural language processing.

They can't because you don't know when the selection list might be. By pre-pending Xbox to the shortcut commands it puts them in their own namespace.

Spicoli said,

They can't because you don't know when the selection list might be. By pre-pending Xbox to the shortcut commands it puts them in their own namespace.


Of course you can do it. The Xbox select command could easily be recognized in natural speech.

jerzdawg said,

I think you may have responded to the wrong article. This post is about xbox 1 sales reaching 2 million. I think the pros and cons post is a few days old already.. check there!

historian's will look back ay this decade as the golden age of the moan!

AWilliams87 said,

They don't bundle it. Microsoft made a big deal about Kinect, but it doesn't function that well. Each time a friend of mine walks into the room, it logs me in believing it were me. That's very subpar.

are you and your friends chinese? KIDDING!!!!

AWilliams87 said,

Of course you can do it. The Xbox select command could easily be recognized in natural speech.

That's a nice declaration but you neglected any support for it. I actually do develop voice response application for businesses. You cannot effectively provide a prompt list and natural language parsing at the same time as the natural language parser wouldn't know the prompt list from the app and would have no idea how to separate which you mean.

Spicoli said,

That's a nice declaration but you neglected any support for it. I actually do develop voice response application for businesses. You cannot effectively provide a prompt list and natural language parsing at the same time as the natural language parser wouldn't know the prompt list from the app and would have no idea how to separate which you mean.


One doesn't need to search hard to remember Google voice commands. NLP support was added to voice commands years ago before Google now.

AWilliams87 said,

One doesn't need to search hard to remember Google voice commands. NLP support was added to voice commands years ago before Google now.

The existence of natural language parser isn't the issue. It's being able to use voice prompts to control third party apps that do not do it. The app UI is a bunch of buttons with prompts and the OS has no idea how those prompts are organized or what context each one belongs.

AWilliams87 said,
Kinect speech needs a major overhaul. It isn't that good.

ha,spoken like someone who has never used the product(your post history speaks for itself). the speech recognition is amazing.

Tha Bloo Monkee said,

If the Xbox One can't implement it well, why implement it at all? Kinect is a $100 gimmick. Enjoy.
PS4 doesn't need gimmicks to sell

The only people making these claims are people that haven't used it or want to troll. This shouldn't be about attacking or defending the ps4, but it seems like that is hard to avoid.

The voice control can get better, no doubt. But at launch, its worked reliably for me after the first couple days of using it. The main issue is the need for a wider, more natural vocabulary.

When you know the commands to use, there isn't an issue with it missing what I say or hearing something completely different.

You guys are obsessed with talking trash though, so it really wont matter what really users think.

Spicoli said,

The existence of natural language parser isn't the issue. It's being able to use voice prompts to control third party apps that do not do it. The app UI is a bunch of buttons with prompts and the OS has no idea how those prompts are organized or what context each one belongs.


All speech software have predefined commands, regardless if you're doing NLP or not; like Kinect now. NLP isn't fundamentally different, it's more of an add on. The difference is how you issues those commands. You can easily take the brute force approach and create a gigantic list of possible commands that may be issued to achieve the same perceived effect software of Siri does today. If the OS can't do something with NLP, then it can't do it period.

Edited by zhangm, Dec 11 2013, 4:28pm :

Spicoli said,

The existence of natural language parser isn't the issue. It's being able to use voice prompts to control third party apps that do not do it. The app UI is a bunch of buttons with prompts and the OS has no idea how those prompts are organized or what context each one belongs.

That ...and why would I talk to a device that doesn't even talk back to me in a natural way. Kinect is command driven, and it will take a lot long to control it with natural speech pattern.

vcfan said,

ha,spoken like someone who has never used the product(your post history speaks for itself). the speech recognition is amazing.


Well you must be extremely close to the mic or something. My friends and I are to the point now where we don't even use the thing anymore.

AWilliams87 said,

They don't bundle it. Microsoft made a big deal about Kinect, but it doesn't function that well. Each time a friend of mine walks into the room, it logs me in believing it were me. That's very subpar.

You do know that you can troubleshoot that, so that Kinect can recognized you better. I had issue with it not logging me in, so I decided to troubleshoot it, and Kinect even told me that it will be able to recognized me better in the future, and I have not had any problem since then.

Apparently, you just complain and do nothing about it. Welcome to being an Early Adopter. Deal with it!

trooper11 said,

The only people making these claims are people that haven't used it or want to troll. This shouldn't be about attacking or defending the ps4, but it seems like that is hard to avoid.

The voice control can get better, no doubt. But at launch, its worked reliably for me after the first couple days of using it. The main issue is the need for a wider, more natural vocabulary.

When you know the commands to use, there isn't an issue with it missing what I say or hearing something completely different.

You guys are obsessed with talking trash though, so it really wont matter what really users think.


I have the day one edition of it. The only way it would consistently get what I want to say correct is if I yell, or the room is extremely quiet. This isn't exclusive to me either. The same problem is experience with my friends.

RommelS said,

You do know that you can troubleshoot that, so that Kinect can recognized you better. I had issue with it not logging me in, so I decided to troubleshoot it, and Kinect even told me that it will be able to recognized me better in the future, and I have not had any problem since then.

Apparently, you just complain and do nothing about it. Welcome to being an Early Adopter. Deal with it!


How do you know I haven't done something about it? Should I just accept mediocrity?

AWilliams87 said,

Well you must be extremely close to the mic or something. My friends and I are to the point now where we don't even use the thing anymore.

I sit 7 feet away from my TV,and the voice commands work perfectly. im talking 99% accurary. and the 1% error is usually me fumbling a voice command.

AWilliams87 said,

All speech software have predefined commands, regardless if you're doing NLP or not; like Kinect now. NLP isn't fundamentally different, it's more of an add on. The difference is how you issues those commands. You can easily take the brute force approach and create a gigantic list of possible commands that may be issued to achieve the same perceived effect software of Siri does today. If the OS can't do something with NLP, then it can't do it period.

Sorry but a personal attack won't change the facts but just makes you look childish.

Edited by zhangm, Dec 11 2013, 4:44pm :

AWilliams87 said,

I have the day one edition of it. The only way it would consistently get what I want to say correct is if I yell, or the room is extremely quiet. This isn't exclusive to me either. The same problem is experience with my friends.

I also have the day one edition of it.

I had a similar problem as you did at first. My problem turned out to be that I had not turned up my speaker volume high enough during the calibration process.

It suggests to turn it up louder than you normally would have it and I can attest to the fact that the louder it is then, the higher the reliability is for you when you 1 foot or 7 foot from the console. It also resulted in it picking up my voice even with another person talking or media playing at med-high levels.

Maybe you could try going through the calibration again, making sure to crank up the volume. You don't have to blow your speakers, but just try it louder then you had before.

If you do that and the reliability is still just as bad, I would start to wonder if its a defective unit. MS may conclude that your Kinect is not functioning properly and want to replace it. I would highly suggest that you call support and possibly get a replacement if you can't improve things via recalibration.

AWilliams87 said,

I have the day one edition of it. The only way it would consistently get what I want to say correct is if I yell, or the room is extremely quiet. This isn't exclusive to me either. The same problem is experience with my friends.

I have a day one edition and it works fine. Do you have a lot of other noise in the room besides what's going through the HDMI passthrough?

Spicoli said,

Sorry but a personal attack won't change the facts but just makes you look childish.


That's fine. Just stop making up bull****. Some people without much knowledge might start to believe you.

AWilliams87 said,

How do you know I haven't done something about it? Should I just accept mediocrity?

I don't. However, how would I know if you have done it? I wouldn't know either.

trooper11 said,

I also have the day one edition of it.

I had a similar problem as you did at first. My problem turned out to be that I had not turned up my speaker volume high enough during the calibration process.

It suggests to turn it up louder than you normally would have it and I can attest to the fact that the louder it is then, the higher the reliability is for you when you 1 foot or 7 foot from the console. It also resulted in it picking up my voice even with another person talking or media playing at med-high levels.

Maybe you could try going through the calibration again, making sure to crank up the volume. You don't have to blow your speakers, but just try it louder then you had before.

If you do that and the reliability is still just as bad, I would start to wonder if its a defective unit. MS may conclude that your Kinect is not functioning properly and want to replace it. I would highly suggest that you call support and possibly get a replacement if you can't improve things via recalibration.


I'll do it as soon as I get home.

AWilliams87 said,

I'm saying Kinect is a waste of time if it doesn't function well. In this case, they may as well not include it and shave off $100 being that Microsoft values market share.

No offense but open your mind a bit. Statically speaking no add on or accessory sold separately ever amount to everyone owning one. This becomes a problem to developers because they can't make a game to take advantage of that peripheral because not everyone has one Nd tou alienate your sales. What MS has done is made it available to everyone making sure if a developer adds a feature to a game everyone will be able to partake. Just imagine playing a first person shooter where instead of using the dpad or trigger to switch to another weapon or grenade you reach up with your hand and fling it ir a gesture helps you switch your weapon. How about a RPG where hand movements does a different magic spell or attack. Its just a matter of time.

Tha Bloo Monkee said,

...and from I've read it doesn't work that great in normal circumstances.

You are calling this a gimmick considering you've only read about it. Really? That proves to everyone that you don't even have one or even experienced it.

And you are weeping ...it couldn't be any gimmicky than that because everyone here knows that your just faking it. LOL

Tha Bloo Monkee said,

I'm weeping at how gimmicky it is. Not to mention this is in a completely quiet room and from I've read it doesn't work that great in normal circumstances.

lmao at quiet room. uh huh keep going.

this is funny because Microsoft was the pioneer of introducing nui in their portfolio but they never had a perfect one. anyway xbox one voice will improve over time through software updates

AWilliams87 said,

I'm saying Kinect is a waste of time if it doesn't function well. In this case, they may as well not include it and shave off $100 being that Microsoft values market share.

First of all, don't listen to the trolls, as an XB1 owner, if you set it up right (the microphone calibration for room environment) and if you know the command lists and if you don't have Japanese accent it works 99% of the time.
seconly, kinect is not only for speech or issuing command, there are tons of fun kinect game titles that was fun even on XB 360 let alone XB1 Kinect which is much much more accurate that can read your heart beat and facial expressions

As far as voice command centers go, nothing comes close to Xbox One. It is at the top of the game, everyone else will be trying to match it.

incendy said,
As far as voice command centers go, nothing comes close to Xbox One. It is at the top of the game, everyone else will be trying to match it.

O.o

You mean when it comes to smart TVs, or voice commands in general?

AWilliams87 said,

They don't bundle it.
The voice commands on ps4 can be used with the headset, which is bundled, FYI.

AWilliams87 said,

O.o

You mean when it comes to smart TVs, or voice commands in general?

When it comes to everything. It is the first device I have ever used that can be controlled from voice entirely. From turning the device on/off including the TV, watching TV, surfing the web, navigating web pages, starting games movies, controlling video.. I have not used anything that even comes close to the integration the Xbox One has with voice. I don't even remember where I put my cable or TV remote. Been over a week since I have ever wanted to use them.

Geezy said,
The voice commands on ps4 can be used with the headset, which is bundled, FYI.

Xbox One users (on voice command): We don't need no stinkin' headset.

Just playing Geezy ...don't take it seriously, but the comment about not needing a stinkin' headset is true.

Tha Bloo Monkee said,

If the Xbox One can't implement it well, why implement it at all? Kinect is a $100 gimmick. Enjoy.
PS4 doesn't need gimmicks to sell

That'll be why Sony decided against including a glow stick and gimmicky touchpad in their new controller then. Oh wait....

RommelS said,

You are calling this a gimmick considering you've only read about it. Really? That proves to everyone that you don't even have one or even experienced it.

And you are weeping ...it couldn't be any gimmicky than that because everyone here knows that your just faking it. LOL


vcfan said,

lmao at quiet room. uh huh keep going.


The internet is filled with people claiming Kinect does not work that great. Think I'm making this up? Do a little research Perhaps it works great for you, and that's awesome. But it doesn't work perfect for everybody.

Tha Bloo Monkee said,

The internet is filled with people claiming Kinect does not work that great. Think I'm making this up? Do a little research Perhaps it works great for you, and that's awesome. But it doesn't work perfect for everybody.

Yes, people have talked about issues. So instead of trying to help those people, people like yourself just want to use it as ammo in your little war against a product.

I actually own an X1 and instead of arguing, we could be trying to find out if their experience can be improved. If it can't then they need to get support from MS. The fact that I can get the thing to work very well (and countless others) tells me that it should work well for almost everyone. If its not, then maybe there is something wrong with their hardware or something.

Tha Bloo Monkee said,

The internet is filled with people claiming Kinect does not work that great. Think I'm making this up? Do a little research Perhaps it works great for you, and that's awesome. But it doesn't work perfect for everybody.

Do a little research? Bloo, I own a Xbox One. I don't need research.

On the other hand, I suggest you do your own research or even purchase one, so you can see what it can or cannot do rather than believing internet people "claiming" whatever they are claiming about Xbox One.

Tha Bloo Monkee said,

The internet is filled with people claiming Kinect does not work that great. Think I'm making this up? Do a little research Perhaps it works great for you, and that's awesome. But it doesn't work perfect for everybody.

no,initially, some people didn't know the correct commands. even people with heavy accents are having great success.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...A57vWE&feature=youtu.be

vcfan said,

I sit 7 feet away from my TV,and the voice commands work perfectly. im talking 99% accurary. and the 1% error is usually me fumbling a voice command.


Same here. I've never had anyone walk into the room and log me in either...

I'm sure Microsoft will continue to improve upon it, but I think they're certainly headed in the right direction, and it is usable...

The only issue I have seen is that when watching a movie or tv, it sometimes doesn't recognize that I am asking it to do something. This can be annoying, but doesn't happen all the time. I'm sure this will be a temporary annoyance...

All in all, it's a great product though. Some people just whine to whine unfortunately.

M_Lyons10 said,

Same here. I've never had anyone walk into the room and log me in either...

I'm sure Microsoft will continue to improve upon it, but I think they're certainly headed in the right direction, and it is usable...

The only issue I have seen is that when watching a movie or tv, it sometimes doesn't recognize that I am asking it to do something. This can be annoying, but doesn't happen all the time. I'm sure this will be a temporary annoyance...

All in all, it's a great product though. Some people just whine to whine unfortunately.


The issue with Kinect not picking up what you're asking for while watching TV or a video happens to me as well. I just didn't mention it because I thought people would say that it's obvious it wouldn't do so, being that there's noise interference.

There are many other things problematic, not with just my Xbox, but with others as well. From time to time, when you switch back to a game, it no longer register button clicks. The last time, I could only get it to work after restarting the system itself.

By let me stop saying more because according to you people, doing so constitutes whining. I really believe if you consider this a "great product", then that's sad. I'm not saying it's bad at all, but no where near "great".

AWilliams87 said,

The issue with Kinect not picking up what you're asking for while watching TV or a video happens to me as well. I just didn't mention it because I thought people would say that it's obvious it wouldn't do so, being that there's noise interference.

There are many other things problematic, not with just my Xbox, but with others as well. From time to time, when you switch back to a game, it no longer register button clicks. The last time, I could only get it to work after restarting the system itself.

By let me stop saying more because according to you people, doing so constitutes whining. I really believe if you consider this a "great product", then that's sad. I'm not saying it's bad at all, but no where near "great".

AWilliams, to be honest, you put this into yourself with what you said.

Kinect speech needs a major overhaul. It isn't that good. Don't understand why Microsoft can't adopt natural language for their platforms either.

It is an opinion, but it is bold statement, and you should be prepared to get flame if you make that kind of comment considering there are tons of us here that are having success with Xbox One. Maybe if you would have asked if anyone is experiencing this type of issues, rather than making that comment, you would have received a different response.

In any case, if you are still having issues with it, maybe you might want to contact support - could be a defective device. Good luck!

RommelS said,

AWilliams, to be honest, you put this into yourself with what you said.

It is an opinion, but it is bold statement, and you should be prepared to get flame if you make that kind of comment considering there are tons of us here that are having success with Xbox One. Maybe if you would have asked if anyone is experiencing this type of issues, rather than making that comment, you would have received a different response.

In any case, if you are still having issues with it, maybe you might want to contact support - could be a defective device. Good luck!


There's no reason to ask if others on here are having these issues when I know people in person, as well as others on different forums, are having the very same issues.

There's no reason why Kinect shouldn't be interpreting natural speech. There's no reason it should log me in when it sees my friend, who looks nothing like me, pass by. Face unlock was mediocre on Android and its mediocre on the Kinect as well.

AWilliams87 said,

There's no reason to ask if others on here are having these issues when I know people in person, as well as others on different forums, are having the very same issues.

The Kinect software does need an overhaul. There's no reason why it shouldn't be interpreting natural speech. There's no reason it should log me in when it sees my friend, who looks nothing like me, pass by. Face unlock was mediocre on Android and its mediocre on the Kinect as well.

Oh the pride that's out of place; then you will continue to get flamed. Also, you just don't know when to quit or take a hint, and you don't even know how to read between the lines. Oh well, welcome to the world of early adopters!

RommelS said,

Oh the pride that's out of place; then you will continue to get flamed. Also, you just don't know when to quit or take a hint, and you don't even know how to read between the lines. Oh well, welcome to the world of early adopters!


In previous statements, you were claiming there was nothing wrong with Kinect and the Xbox, then in your last reply, you say "welcome to the world of early adopters", which implies there are problems. How could you hold two mutually opposing views?

Re-read everything you wrote, and you'll realized all you and Spicoli have done is spout fanboistic crap. You didn't say anything to counter or help the problem, just deny everything. You: "it will take a lot long to control it with natural speech pattern." Get real.

AWilliams87 said,

There's no reason why Kinect shouldn't be interpreting natural speech. There's no reason it should log me in when it sees my friend, who looks nothing like me, pass by. Face unlock was mediocre on Android and its mediocre on the Kinect as well.

You mentioned having an issue where it was recognizing someone that looks nothing like you as yourself and logging them in as you.

Well I haven't run into that issue yet, but there is a function that supposedly will improve detection over time.

When that other person is mis logged in, you can manually go to the top left corner user icon and click it. Then you get the chance to log in manually and you can also choose an option that says you were not recognized. It will ask if that is you and then say something like it will do better next time.

If you haven't tried that yet, I would suggest giving it a try. I had to do that a couple times early on simply because it didn't pick up my face at all, not that it was logging someone else in as me.

If you have done that many, many times, then something else is going wrong.

AWilliams87 said,

In previous statements, you were claiming there was nothing wrong with Kinect and the Xbox, then in your last reply, you say "welcome to the world of early adopters", which implies there are problems. How could you hold two mutually opposing views?

Re-read everything you wrote, and you'll realized all you and Spicoli have done is spout fanboistic crap. You didn't say anything to counter or help the problem, just deny everything. You: "it will take a lot long to control it with natural speech pattern." Get real.

First of, I stated that I was having log in issues, and I solved it. So you may want to reread what I stated here. You are putting words in my mouth. Another big mistake of yours.

Second, for someone who went through all of my comments here, you cannot even determine if I've confirmed or denied what you are accusing me off. Pffft. Comprehension issue perhaps.

Third, for being an early adaptor, you sure don't have an open mind. You just complain, complain and complain. Have you though about providing feedback to MS about what you are complaining about? Guess not.

As for the speech part, didn't you see the MS Xbox videos on how they send commands to Xbox? Do you also know that the first speech technology that MS released in the early 90s called Windows Sound System was command driven? Do you know that Windows Phone Tell Me is command driven as well? Do you see a pattern here?

Xbox is not program do to natural speech. It is command driven, and it doesn't have a lot of vocabulary in it ...just enough to navigate through the system. It is not like it is going to talk back to you.

For someone who programs, you sure are having problem analyzing that.

RommelS said,

First of, I stated that I was having log in issues, and I solved it. So you may want to reread what I stated here. You are putting words in my mouth. Another big mistake of yours.

Second, for someone who went through all of my comments here, you cannot even determine if I've confirmed or denied what you are accusing me off. Pffft. Comprehension issue perhaps.

Third, for being an early adaptor, you sure don't have an open mind. You just complain, complain and complain. Have you though about providing feedback to MS about what you are complaining about? Guess not.

As for the speech part, didn't you see the MS Xbox videos on how they send commands to Xbox? Do you also know that the first speech technology that MS released in the early 90s called Windows Sound System was command driven? Do you know that Windows Phone Tell Me is command driven as well? Do you see a pattern here?

Xbox is not program do to natural speech. It is command driven, and it doesn't have a lot of vocabulary in it ...just enough to navigate through the system. It is not like it is going to talk back to you.

For someone who programs, you sure are having problem analyzing that.


So you're telling me that you're not just making up excuses for why Kinect speech software is inferior? It's a complete circular reasoning with you.

I'm telling you Kinect isn't that good because it should have've been able to process natural speech, and you're basically telling me it doesn't suck because "Xbox is not a program[ed] to do natural speech". You're taking my conclusion and using it as the premise for your counter-argument. That makes no sense. You also give this strange example of software written in the 90s, insinuating that Microsoft doesn't do natural speech, so my argument that Kinect should do natural speech is some how false because of that. That is very strange.

It's not so much that I'm complaining; it's more of the fact that you accept mediocrity when it comes to these issues. When Windows Mobile was laggy and slow even after the first iPhone came out, others accused me of complaining as well. Same was true about missing features of WP7 like copy and paste. Now with the Xbox One not evening being able to send voice messages, it logs me in when it sees someone else enter the room, and have difficulty picking up what I'm saying, once again, someone is telling me I'm simply complaining. Get real dude.

trooper11 said,

You mentioned having an issue where it was recognizing someone that looks nothing like you as yourself and logging them in as you.

Well I haven't run into that issue yet, but there is a function that supposedly will improve detection over time.

When that other person is mis logged in, you can manually go to the top left corner user icon and click it. Then you get the chance to log in manually and you can also choose an option that says you were not recognized. It will ask if that is you and then say something like it will do better next time.

If you haven't tried that yet, I would suggest giving it a try. I had to do that a couple times early on simply because it didn't pick up my face at all, not that it was logging someone else in as me.

If you have done that many, many times, then something else is going wrong.


I will try that troubleshoot camera detection function as soon as I get home.

AWilliams87 said,

I will try that troubleshoot camera detection function as soon as I get home.

I would also suggest you move this conversation to the X1 Owner Impressions thread. Its tough trying to do this via comments.

But just so you know where to go:

When you are not recognized properly:

1. At the dash, go up to the user pic in the top left corner and click on it

2. On the next screen, you will see the option "I wasn't recognized"

3. After clicking that, it will ask you which user should be recognized with your face and that should do it.

Like I said before, I had to do this twice early on, but since then, its picked me up every time. I was surprised that it handles low light very well. It picks up my face even when the room is nearly dark.

AWilliams87 said,

So you're telling me that you're not just making up excuses for why Kinect speech software is inferior? It's a complete circular reasoning with you.

Why would I make excuses for it if it works for me. You on the other hand, you keep coming up with reasons that are on left field, and if someone lays it down to you, you're still not getting it.


I'm telling you Kinect isn't that good because it should have've been able to process natural speech, and you're basically telling me it doesn't suck because "Xbox is not a program[ed] to do natural speech". You're taking my conclusion and using it as the premise for your counter-argument. That makes no sense. You also give this strange example of software written in the 90s, insinuating that Microsoft doesn't do natural speech, so my argument that Kinect should do natural speech is some how false because of that. That is very strange.

How would you know it Xbox One cannot process natural speech. I've been telling you that MS decided to go with a speech program that is command driven. Are you really a programmer? You cannot even grasp that concept. And just because MS went with something that you don't want, you think it is mediocre already. Xbox One only has a few commands, so command driven programing just works fine with it. Oh wait, apparently, you cannot even get it working.

Also, don't flatter yourself about the counter argument. You are over thinking everything. You cannot even realized that an update can change these whole speech recognition technology in Xbox.

So yes, I am basically saying to you it doesn't suck because it works for me 99 percent of the time.

It's not so much that I'm complaining; it's more of the fact that you accept mediocrity when it comes to these issues. When Windows Mobile was laggy and slow even after the first iPhone came out, others accused me of complaining as well. Same was true about missing features of WP7 like copy and paste. Now with the Xbox One not evening being able to send voice messages, it logs me in when it sees someone else enter the room, and have difficulty picking up what I'm saying, once again, someone is telling me I'm simply complaining. Get real dude.

Once again, don't flatter yourself. This isn't all about you just because MS didn't implemented something that you don't want. Go to MS and provide your feedback. I can only imaging if MS did implement want you are looking for, and it didn't fit the bill, that you will be ranting even more. Again, open your mind. You are an early adaptor now.

RommelS said,

How would you know it Xbox One cannot process natural speech.

Cannot or does not? It does not. You also said it does not.
RommelS said,

Xbox is not program do to natural speech.

RommelS said,
And just because MS went with something that you don't want, you think it is mediocre already.

That isn't the point. Understanding and responding to natural speech is superior and is the normal progress in speech recognition. On iOS, Chrome and the Android platforms, it's integrated into the OS. Microsoft has yet to implement it onto any of theirs, however. That's disappointing.

RommelS said,
You cannot even realized that an update can change these whole speech recognition technology in Xbox.

Again, that isn't the point. It does not in fact understand natural language at this point. Saying it may get an update in the future does nothing to relieve this truth; It's just a cope out statement meant to dismiss this issue.

RommelS said,
This isn't all about you just because MS didn't implemented something that you don't want.

All you're doing is trying to excuse Microsoft of their problems. It remains true that Kinect logs me in while my friend walks pass the camera. Like trooper said: "I had to [troubleshoot] twice early on, but since then, its picked me up every time." It remains true that once in a while when you return to a game, the Xbox doesn't respond to controller input. You're clearly very biased and are just finding ways to downplay these problems.

AWilliams87 said,
Cannot or does not? It does not. You also said it does not.

I said it does not, but I am referring to the program that runs the feature. You're a programmer, you should know that, so don't twist it around.

AWilliams87 said,
That isn't the point. Understanding and responding to natural speech is superior and is the normal progress in speech recognition. On iOS, Chrome and the Android platforms, it's integrated into the OS. Microsoft has yet to implement it onto any of theirs, however. That's disappointing.

Apparently, you have not heard that MS said a few months ago that the reason why they have not put out a new voice recognition software because they just don't want to do revolutionize it, but rather evolutionize it. The start of that is Cortana for Windows Phone - a system that will learn and adapt.

AWilliams87 said,
Again, that isn't the point. It does not in fact understand natural language at this point. Saying it may get an update in the future does nothing to relieve this truth; It's just a cope out statement meant to dismiss this issue.

It does not understand natural language because MS is using a command driving programming. Again, they are using something they already have and working for them right now. You sure cannot understand that concept. If Windows Phone will be able to run Cortana in the near future, I am definitely sure that a more powerful Xbox can do it too. If it doesn't, then I'll admit that I am wrong.


AWilliams87 said,
All you're doing is trying to excuse Microsoft of their problems. It remains true that Kinect logs me in while my friend walks pass the camera. Like trooper said: "I had to [troubleshoot] twice early on, but since then, its picked me up every time." It remains true that once in a while when you return to a game, the Xbox doesn't respond to controller input. You're clearly very biased and are just finding ways to downplay these problems.

Oh people here knows that I like Microsoft, but they also know that I will call out MS for their mistake, in fact even make fun of them. Oh, I am not making excuses for them. They don't need my help, MS has a marketing department that handles that. That being said, how can I downplay something if I am not experiencing the same thing that you are having. I believe I even suggested that you contact MS for support if your problem persist.

RommelS said,

I said it does not, but I am referring to the program that runs the feature. You're a programmer, you should know that, so don't twist it around.


Dude, what the **** are you talking about? Either the Xbox understands natural language, or it does not. It clearly does not, like you stated prior: "Xbox is not program do to natural speech." Then you asked me "How would you know it Xbox One cannot process natural speech[?]" Those are seemingly contradictory statements. And obviously, you were "referring to the program that runs the feature." What else would we be talking about?

RommelS said,
Apparently, you have not heard that MS said a few months ago that the reason why they have not put out a new voice recognition software because they just don't want to do revolutionize it, but rather evolutionize it. The start of that is Cortana for Windows Phone - a system that will learn and adapt.

First off, you got evolutionary and revolutionary reversed. Nonetheless, what does have anything to do with what we're discussing here? The context of my statements are in the present time. The Xbox could do a whole lot of neat stuff in the future with software patches, but the points I said prior remains true now. It's like you telling me I have a problem; that my breath smells. Then me telling you that it's okay, because sometime in the future, I will brush my teeth. That's a completely nonsensical argument.

RommelS said,
It does not understand natural language because MS is using a command driving programming.

I am just flat out amazed that you really think you're making valid arguments. Are you a native English speaker? I want you to spend a few minuets reading this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

If I tell you A suck because it should be doing X instead of Y, and X is clearly superior to Y, then you turn around and tell me A doesn't suck because they decided that they should do Y instead, that line of reasoning makes absolutely no sense what so ever. None. You didn't even say Y is better than X, just that they've decided to do Y. Also, saying it may in fact do X in the future does not invalidate my initial argument.

AWilliams87 said,

Dude, what the **** are you talking about? Either the Xbox understands natural language, or it does not. It clearly does not, like you stated prior: "Xbox is not program do to natural speech." Then you asked me "How would you know it Xbox One cannot process natural speech[?]" Those are seemingly contradictory statements. And obviously, you were "referring to the program that runs the feature." What else would we be talking about?

I'm just shaking my head on this. Are you sure you are a programmer. You keep referring to the hardware while there is also a software running it.


AWilliams87 said,
First off, you got evolutionary and revolutionary reversed. Nonetheless, what does have anything to do with what we're discussing here? The context of my statements are in the present time. The Xbox could do a whole lot of neat stuff in the future with software patches, but the points I said prior remains true now. It's like you telling me I have a problem; that my breath smells. Then me telling you that it's okay, because sometime in the future, I will brush my teeth. That's a completely nonsensical argument.

Me, misquote Microsoft, shame on me. You cannot even figure out why MS made that statement even after I mentioned to you what Cortana can do. Oh that's right, you are not aware of that one as well.

As for your present tense, guess what? People will use what they know to provide support for their counter argument, so don't flatter yourself again thinking that you always have right of way. Now maybe if you can grasp the fact that MS is using what they have at the moment, then this would be all over by now.


AWilliams87 said,
I am just flat out amazed that you really think you're making valid arguments. Are you a native English speaker? I want you to spend a few minuets reading this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

Now this just made me laugh once again because I finally figure out what type of person I am having a conversation with, and I am not even going to say it, but you sure brought yourself very, very, very low on this one. LOL

And for someone who kept on saying that my argument is not valid, do you think what you said here is a valid argument? You are already in left field, and with this one, you just hit a home run over left field. Pathetic. LOL


AWilliams87 said,
If I tell you A suck because it should be doing X instead of Y, and X is clearly superior to Y, then you turn around and tell me A doesn't suck because they decided that they should do Y instead, that line of reasoning makes absolutely no sense what so ever. None. You didn't even say Y is better than X, just that they've decided to do Y. Also, saying it may in fact do X in the future does not invalidate my initial argument.

Ask yourself this, do you really think if you say A sucks that everyone here thinks that way or would go along what you are saying, and if someone counter argue it because they have a different view on things that they are wrong? Guess again.

Look around you, you are the only one that is saying here that the speech of Xbox One sucks because it doesn't do natural speech, while there rest of us are fine with it. So I could only come to a conclusion that your opinion suck as well.

I suggest you two move on from this. I think the conversation just got way out of hand without either of you realizing it. You just keep responding because you feel like you must or the wrong idea will be out there.

Of course, if you need to continue it, maybe a PM conversation would be better.

RommelS said,

I'm just shaking my head on this. Are you sure you are a programmer. You keep referring to the hardware while there is also a software running it.

Dude, we were always talking about the software responsible for Kinect speech. What the **** else would we be talking about? The buttons on the device? Is there a way to have a digital computing device run without software? Can the Xbox and/or Kinect run without some kind of software?

You: "Xbox is not program do to natural speech."
Then you again: "How would you know it Xbox One cannot process natural speech[?]"

You were talking about the same damn thing here. Just doing so contradictorily.

RommelS said,
Me, misquote Microsoft, shame on me. You cannot even figure out why MS made that statement even after I mentioned to you what Cortana can do. Oh that's right, you are not aware of that one as well.

What does the Cortana project have to do with my criticism? Is the Kinect better now knowing that they may be an update in the future to correct its shortcomings?

RommelS said,
Ask yourself this, do you really think if you say A sucks that everyone here thinks that way or would go along what you are saying, and if someone counter argue it because they have a different view on things that they are wrong? Guess again.

Dude, you don't have to agree with me that A suck. That isn't the point. I'm trying to tell you that you're simply not making any sense in your counter arguments.

Let me try to explain this to you again to make it easier for you to understand. Being that 480p is a low quality resolution, If I tell you your TV suck because it only shows pictures that format, then you turn around and say to me no it doesn't suck because 480p is "what you had in the moment", do you see how that argument doesn't invalidate my initial argument that your TV suck? It's not as if you even said 480p was a decent format. You just said it's "what you had in the moment".

Now, I told you that Kinect isn't that good; that it should understand natural language. You turned around trying to prove to me that Kinect doesn't suck because "MS is using what they have at the moment"; that "[Microsoft's] Tell Me is command driven as well" and it may have an update in the future to implement natural language understanding, do you see how it does nothing to invalidate my initial claim? The reason why it doesn't process natural language is irrelevant. The point simply is that it does not, that why it isn't that good.

trooper11 said,
I suggest you two move on from this. I think the conversation just got way out of hand without either of you realizing it. You just keep responding because you feel like you must or the wrong idea will be out there.

Of course, if you need to continue it, maybe a PM conversation would be better.

Trooper out of respect for you and others, this will be my last response to this topic. Thank you!