Motorola has a beastly phone in the works, likely the next Nexus device

(Nexus 5 released in October of 2013)

Its been close to a year since the release of the Nexus 5 and while LG has stated that they do not have a Nexus device in the pipeline, it looks like we are finally starting to get a glimpse of what could be the next Nexus device. Although there were assumptions that the LG G3 would be used as a reference, instead, it looks like Motorola might be taking hold of the reins for the upcoming handset.

According to phoneArena, it looks like there is an unannounced Motorola device code named 'Shamu' that has popped up on the popular benchmarking website, GFXBench. While it's uncertain in what capacity this device will be released, but when it does, it'll be a monster. The fully populated benchmark shows that the device will have a Snapdragon 805 quad-core processor, 3GB of RAM, 32GB of storage, 12MP camera with 4K video recording, 2MP front-facing camera, and a 5.2" 1440p resolution screen.

If this is indeed accurate, this device will easily become one of the top Android devices of the year. Currently, the only other device available in the United States with similar specifications is the LG G3. Although this must be taken with a grain of salt, it is entirely possible that Google might be pulling out all the stops to showcase a device that will run its latest mobile operation system, Android L. If history is a good indicator, we should see the new Nexus device sometime in the last quarter of 2014. 

Source: phoneArena 

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Another copy & paste android device.

Quad core, 4k video, 1440p screen...specs specs specs.

Give us something fresh, exciting, that we can actually use. These numbers don't mean jack.

Hardcore Til I Die said,
Another copy & paste android device.

Quad core, 4k video, 1440p screen...specs specs specs.

Give us something fresh, exciting, that we can actually use. These numbers don't mean jack.

What would you like?

-T- said,

What would you like?

he just said... something you can use... its the same ol same ol, the makers are better at coming up with feasible ideas more then us. let them come up with something.

-T- said,

What would you like?

A 720p screen is adequate enough on a mobile device and if it's pushing that many less pixels, battery life will be much improved.

Then just focus on the software. I wonder how many people pick up these top of the line Android devices and think, 'I wish this had better specs.' Not many, I expect.

Manufacturers have lost sight of what's important.

Hardcore Til I Die said,

A 720p screen is adequate enough on a mobile device and if it's pushing that many less pixels, battery life will be much improved.

Then just focus on the software. I wonder how many people pick up these top of the line Android devices and think, 'I wish this had better specs.' Not many, I expect.

Manufacturers have lost sight of what's important.

720p is adequate ? This is not 2009 anymore pal...

DaveBG said,

720p is adequate ? This is not 2009 anymore pal...

oh you are one of those who think they can see a difference on a phone... makes sense now. Carry on.

Hardcore Til I Die said,

What does the year have to do with anything? In 2090 720p will still be adequate on a 5.2" screen.


LOL, and 640kb of memory will be enough for everything right? Save your words for 2090 then... Today most cameras shoot at FULL HD, 4K or above so 720 is like stone age resolution...

DaveBG said,

LOL, and 640kb of memory will be enough for everything right? Save your words for 2090 then... Today most cameras shoot at FULL HD, 4K or above so 720 is like stone age resolution...

Such footage will look better than 720p... on a much larger screen. Pointless having such a high res on a 5.2" screen.

Unless you're a hawk.. in which case I apologise Mr. Hawk.

DaveBG said,

LOL, and 640kb of memory will be enough for everything right? Save your words for 2090 then... Today most cameras shoot at FULL HD, 4K or above so 720 is like stone age resolution...

so guessing you are saying "bring on the 4k phone displays"? You are doing 1 of 2 things... over guessing your limited human ability to think you see like superman, or just not educated as to what you are actually trying on saying.

rippleman said,

so guessing you are saying "bring on the 4k phone displays"? You are doing 1 of 2 things... over guessing your limited human ability to think you see like superman, or just not educated as to what you are actually trying on saying.

My human ability is not your problem, i want the high res display because it is better , can be HDMI-ed to large TV better and for the sake of it pushes technology for the better. so shut up and if you have problem with 4k forget about it and do not buy it. no one will care about you.

DaveBG said,

My human ability is not your problem, i want the high res display because it is better , can be HDMI-ed to large TV better and for the sake of it pushes technology for the better. so shut up and if you have problem with 4k forget about it and do not buy it. no one will care about you.

wanting 4k output is NOT the same as having 4k display on smart phone... These are 2 separate things.

rippleman said,

wanting 4k output is NOT the same as having 4k display on smart phone... These are 2 separate things.


For the last 4 years (yes even my Galaxy S1) have mirroring the exact screen to TV.

DaveBG said,

For the last 4 years (yes even my Galaxy S1) have mirroring the exact screen to TV.

So you would rather have 4k on your phone (burning through battery 10X faster) then have a tech that just broadcasts in original format to the desired output device? odd.

DaveBG said,

My human ability is not your problem, i want the high res display because it is better , can be HDMI-ed to large TV better and for the sake of it pushes technology for the better. so shut up and if you have problem with 4k forget about it and do not buy it. no one will care about you.

Do you even have a tv that's beyond 1080p resolution?

The next Nexus device is going to be whatever Google decides to launch Android L on. One of the big new features of Android L is that it's 64bit capable, the launch device will not be 32bit. Sure there will be 32bit devices running Android L but not the Nexus. The Snapdragon 805 is still only a 32bit chip so if that's what this thing is running it's not the next Nexus.

spacer said,
Why do they keep up'ing the resolution of a single digit inch screen? 1440p is completely unnecessary.
Let me guess, you were probably one of those that also said, "720p is completely unnecessary," and "1080p is completely unnecessary." Get used to it - it's forward progression of high-end technology.

Your point is only valid, if increasing the resolution didn't have any other impact. At the very least, this impact includes battery life, and FPS in games due to the need for the same GPU, to push out frames for many more pixels. I don't play games, but I'd easily choose an 1080p display with 10% more battery life, over a 1440p display.

tsupersonic said,
Let me guess, you were probably one of those that also said, "720p is completely unnecessary," and "1080p is completely unnecessary." Get used to it - it's forward progression of high-end technology.

I was, and it IS unnecessary. You will not be able to tell the difference between 1080p and 1440p on a 5 inch screen. All this does is increase the resources necessary to paint the screen and less battery life for little-to-no benefit.

tanybeen said,
Your point is only valid, if increasing the resolution didn't have any other impact. At the very least, this impact includes battery life, and FPS in games due to the need for the same GPU, to push out frames for many more pixels. I don't play games, but I'd easily choose an 1080p display with 10% more battery life, over a 1440p display.

spacer said,

I was, and it IS unnecessary. You will not be able to tell the difference between 1080p and 1440p on a 5 inch screen. All this does is increase the resources necessary to paint the screen and less battery life for little-to-no benefit.

Nice to see some guys with common sense here on Neowin.

spacer said,

I was, and it IS unnecessary. You will not be able to tell the difference between 1080p and 1440p on a 5 inch screen. All this does is increase the resources necessary to paint the screen and less battery life for little-to-no benefit.
There are plenty of phones with "low" screen resolutions, go use one of those phones. We can't push technology forward if manufacturers don't push the limits here.

Technology evolves fast...Phones CPU's/GPU's get faster, become more efficient, and battery technology + larger batteries get used. In general, smartphones these days have radically better battery lives than the first few generations of Android/iPhones.

tsupersonic said,
We can't push technology forward if manufacturers don't push the limits here.

Technology evolves fast...Phones CPU's/GPU's get faster, become more efficient, and battery technology + larger batteries get used. In general, smartphones these days have radically better battery lives than the first few generations of Android/iPhones.

Oh. We want higher resolution screens so manufactures are forced to make faster chips and larger batteries, so we will then we want even higher resolution screens so manufactures are again forced to make faster chips and larger batteries so we can again have... ad nauseum

Brilliantly pushing the limits 'here'.

3owin said,

Oh. We want higher resolution screens so manufactures are forced to make faster chips and larger batteries, so we will then we want even higher resolution screens so manufactures are again forced to make faster chips and larger batteries so we can again have... ad nauseum

Brilliantly pushing the limits 'here'.

The chipset manufacturers are going to make faster chips that are more efficient, because it's the progression of technology. Battery technology is getting better, and we're seeing larger capacities, that's the natural flow of progression. What kind of world would we be in if no one pushed the envelope? Don't be daft.

Order_66 said,
This is good news, I've owned 2 LG phones and both were pure garbage, Nexus 5 and G flex.

LG G2 was their best phone of last year. Even G3 is doing well. Their Android UI has improved tremendously.

d5aqoëp said,

LG G2 was their best phone of last year. Even G3 is doing well. Their Android UI has improved tremendously.

My issues were mostly hardware related, I purchased each phone brand new, the G flex had the well-known screen flicker issue, the replacement had the same problem.
The first nexus 5 I received had a bad screen, touch inputs didn't register correctly, the replacement functioned correctly but the mic didn't work.

Im excited to see how this nexus device looks but I'm disappointed cause theres going to be something wrong with it. My Nexus 4 had ###### battery life and My Nexus 5 has a blah camera. I love the OIS but overall there's problems with the camera. Also I've been through 3 of them all defects.

For me ts going to be between the G3 if the dev community gets roms out for it, iPhone 6, Something windows phone or Nexus 6

Sikh said,
Im excited to see how this nexus device looks but I'm disappointed cause theres going to be something wrong with it. My Nexus 4 had ###### battery life and My Nexus 5 has a blah camera. I love the OIS but overall there's problems with the camera. Also I've been through 3 of them all defects.

For me ts going to be between the G3 if the dev community gets roms out for it, iPhone 6, Something windows phone or Nexus 6

My n5 has shaky sound from the buttons being slightly too small issue. All of the first batch has it. Camera..meh..android cameras are a joke.

spacer said,
My Nexus 4 lasts for two days before I need to charge it. Maybe you got a bad one?
Why do people generalize battery life? Everyone uses their phone in a different manner and listing out a number like "two days" worth of battery life is absolutely useless you specify how you use the phone.

I love the camera on my phone. It's always been a very reliable, very nice camera. I can show examples of some pretty epic pictures i've taken with it.

tsupersonic said,
Why do people generalize battery life? Everyone uses their phone in a different manner and listing out a number like "two days" worth of battery life is absolutely useless you specify how you use the phone.

Isn't what Sikh. said the same thing?

spacer said,
My Nexus 4 lasts for two days before I need to charge it. Maybe you got a bad one?

So you don't use your phone I take it?

I do. I use it daily. But I also don't keep the wifi, bluetooh, 4g, location, and account syncs (I have 7 google accounts) on all the time, or the screen brightness all the way up. While at work, I surf the web a few times a day, and play a game here and there. At home, I turn on wifi and sync, and play games a few times a night. I routinely leave my phone on over night without charging it, and it lasts a full two days before it gets low enough that I feel like charging it. Battery life seems good to me.

motorola photon 4g. they prolonged android updates and finally call end of support.
the camera quality wasn't so great either especially low light setting.

DrOmango said,
motorola photon 4g. they prolonged android updates and finally call end of support.
the camera quality wasn't so great either especially low light setting.

so android updates are your main issue? You do realize that this is a nexus device, and updates would not be coming from motorola.

Also, if your issue is hardware, do you realize that google bought motorola mobility in 2012? The photon came out in 2011.

DrOmango said,
Had a Motorola phone before, not buying one anytime soon. Happy with Nexus 5 though and its fast updates.

You must have missed the good/decent reviews the new line of Droids received and the good reviews the Moto X, G, and E.

DrOmango said,
Had a Motorola phone before, not buying one anytime soon. Happy with Nexus 5 though and its fast updates.


all good points. also the LG nexus 5 was actually barely ok. i survived MUCH MUCH less stress and small impacts then any of my samsung or htc phones...

so i am exited that the next nexus is build by motorola as i like their newer androids, and hope the build quality will be better.

CJ33 said,
Also, if your issue is hardware, do you realize that google bought motorola mobility in 2012? The photon came out in 2011.

Well, Motorola Mobility is now owned by Lenovo so it's changed hands twice, so they really do require revaluation.

DrOmango said,
motorola photon 4g. they prolonged android updates and finally call end of support.
the camera quality wasn't so great either especially low light setting.

If you want updated for any android device head to android forums. EVERY device no mater how old is supported there and can have the latest android version.

Verizon will likely never see a nexus device again after the debacle the galaxy nexus was. Verizon and Google will never agree on the stipulations, unlockable boot loader, updates pushed by google with no Verizon branding/bloat, the lack of google wallet support, etc etc. This will likely be available on every carrier except Verizon unfortunately.

warwagon said,
I'm just going to guess, no Verizon.

Probably not. Why I am glad other OEMs are coming out with good reliable phones that are highly supported on sites like XDA. And OEMs are coming out with updates faster and faster. Not as much a problem it once was.